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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-19 23:03:52
June 19 2014 22:56 GMT
#1021
So I guess Match score is fairly important too...might as well put them into one post.

Match Score:
Scarlett: 6-1
Polt: 3-3
Major: 1-3
Violet: 2-3
Huk: 1-3
Puck: 3-3

Map Score
Scarlett: 13-3
Polt: 7-6
Major: 2-6
Violet: 5-6
Huk: 2-7
Puck: 7-8
Average means I'm better than half of you.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46263 Posts
June 19 2014 22:56 GMT
#1022
On June 20 2014 07:50 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 07:47 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 20 2014 07:42 WolfintheSheep wrote:
So, final tournament score:

Scarlett: 13-3
Polt: 7-6
Major: 2-6
Violet: 5-6
Huk: 2-7
Puck: 7-7

Kind of amusing that Major gets "3rd place" with only 2 map wins (and 1 match win).


Yeah lol he and HuK did terribly in this tournament in terms of W/L... bottom two by far. But this tournament format is pretty cool because it gives worse players a chance.


I think the big factor in this tournament was Puck going the full 6-match distance on Day 1. That really forced some interesting dynamics in the next couple of days.

I guess it's also worth listing the total matches played:

Scarlett: 7
Polt: 6
Major: 4
Violet: 5
HuK: 4
Puck: 6

Edit: Come to think of it, the equality in matches/maps played is actually quite amazing. Major with the least maps was still only half of Scarlett's total.


I agree. Puck vs. Everyone in Day 1 was pretty impressive, and it's nice how everyone played a similar number of matches.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
June 19 2014 22:56 GMT
#1023
On June 20 2014 07:54 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I have an idea. They should keep the end of the day money distribution, but it should be a part of the total money. They should also give money based on amount of wins, that way people like puCk don't get fucked and people like major don't get more than they probably deserved.

Yeah. I know people will say that MajOr "intimidated people" or something so that he didn't have to play much for two days, but he got two days of prize money and he only won 2 games. Puck won 7 and he didn't get shit D:

They just needed like a per win cash bonus so people like puCK didn't get screwed over or something.
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Josh_Video
Profile Joined August 2013
Canada798 Posts
June 19 2014 22:57 GMT
#1024
On June 20 2014 07:44 Waise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 07:43 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
I am so happy for Scarlett!!! It's been a while since we've had quite a result, smashing Polt so convincingly! It's no wonder why I love when she plays so much!! GG

me too but it's sad that it comes amid so much anti-tvz backlash, partially because i sort of agree with the backlash. it would be so sick for her as a foreign hope to win during a time when people aren't complaining about the matchup and patches aren't changing the meta...

oh well though, still awesome!


I thought everyone was complaining that hellbats were too good right now? I didn't think it was even in zerg's favor anymore.
MKP :D ~ MMA ~ Scarlett ~ Taeja ~ Mvp ~ InnoVation ~ Polt | Prime ( RIP :( ) ~ Acer ~ SK Telecom T1 | I enjoyed the locust war of May 3, 2014.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46263 Posts
June 19 2014 22:58 GMT
#1025
On June 20 2014 07:56 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 07:54 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I have an idea. They should keep the end of the day money distribution, but it should be a part of the total money. They should also give money based on amount of wins, that way people like puCk don't get fucked and people like major don't get more than they probably deserved.

Yeah. I know people will say that MajOr "intimidated people" or something so that he didn't have to play much for two days, but he got two days of prize money and he only won 2 games. Puck won 7 and he didn't get shit D:

They just needed like a per win cash bonus so people like puCK didn't get screwed over or something.


Definitely agree. I like the 3 strike format but not the prize money distribution.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
ClueClueClue
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1203 Posts
June 19 2014 22:58 GMT
#1026
Yeah, wow, Puck getting nothing with that map/game score is a disgrace...
Cogito, ergo toss.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 19 2014 22:58 GMT
#1027
On June 20 2014 07:54 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I have an idea. They should keep the end of the day money distribution, but it should be a part of the total money. They should also give money based on amount of wins, that way people like puCk don't get fucked and people like major don't get more than they probably deserved.


Something like an extra $50 or $100 per series win sounds like a solid idea ( @ $100 per, it's an extra $1800 to the prize pool). It would eliminate the only real complaint we had with pUck getting nailed on day 1.

Also, I think some people in this thread haven't watched enough Prime Zerg in Proleague. I've seen they lose to slower Hellion + 2 Reaper pushes. Badly.
GreenCloud7
Profile Joined June 2014
4 Posts
June 19 2014 22:59 GMT
#1028
On June 20 2014 07:56 WolfintheSheep wrote:
So I guess Match score is fairly important too...might as well put them into one post.

Match Score:
Scarlett: 6-1
Polt: 3-3
Major: 1-3
Violet: 2-3
Huk: 1-3
Puck: 3-3

Map Score
Scarlett: 13-3
Polt: 7-6
Major: 2-6
Violet: 5-6
Huk: 2-7
Puck: 7-7


Puck is 7-8 in maps, not 7-7
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
June 19 2014 23:00 GMT
#1029
On June 20 2014 07:55 Waise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 07:54 Undead1993 wrote:
On June 20 2014 07:42 WolfintheSheep wrote:
So, final tournament score:

Scarlett: 13-3
Polt: 7-6
Major: 2-6
Violet: 5-6
Huk: 2-7
Puck: 7-7

Kind of amusing that Major gets "3rd place" with only 2 map wins (and 1 match win).

eh these stats make this format look pretty stupid. puck getting nothing with having a much better winratio than 3 of the players.

looking at map score for bo3 match formats is always misleading and never provides any useful information

then look at the matchscore i guess? doesn't make much of a difference
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
June 19 2014 23:03 GMT
#1030
On June 20 2014 07:59 GreenCloud7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 07:56 WolfintheSheep wrote:
So I guess Match score is fairly important too...might as well put them into one post.

Match Score:
Scarlett: 6-1
Polt: 3-3
Major: 1-3
Violet: 2-3
Huk: 1-3
Puck: 3-3

Map Score
Scarlett: 13-3
Polt: 7-6
Major: 2-6
Violet: 5-6
Huk: 2-7
Puck: 7-7


Puck is 7-8 in maps, not 7-7

Right, my bad.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
June 19 2014 23:03 GMT
#1031
On June 20 2014 07:58 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 07:54 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I have an idea. They should keep the end of the day money distribution, but it should be a part of the total money. They should also give money based on amount of wins, that way people like puCk don't get fucked and people like major don't get more than they probably deserved.


Something like an extra $50 or $100 per series win sounds like a solid idea ( @ $100 per, it's an extra $1800 to the prize pool). It would eliminate the only real complaint we had with pUck getting nailed on day 1.

Also, I think some people in this thread haven't watched enough Prime Zerg in Proleague. I've seen they lose to slower Hellion + 2 Reaper pushes. Badly.

Well Prime Zergs are kind of bad. Departure/Kassia/Terror don't really inspire fear in anyone's heart and they are all certainly worse than Scarlett. I guess Kassia has shown some promise.
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AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
June 19 2014 23:07 GMT
#1032
On June 20 2014 07:51 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 07:49 D-light wrote:
On June 20 2014 07:45 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 20 2014 07:41 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Incredible ZvT from Scarlett, that exposes weakness in Polt's play. Check and Toodming are sure to study these VODs a ton in preparation for their WCS group.

Check and Toodming don't have nearly the ZvT of Scarlett. Both of them will probably roach into Tefel throw because Polt is master of comebacks.

No, they are better than that.


Since when is Check and Toodming on anyone's radar? lol.


Check? Since he carried WW in ATC yo. 17 maps won
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19372 Posts
June 19 2014 23:11 GMT
#1033
Does this mean we stop calling polt a top 5 terran now, or do we start calling scarlettjwa a top 5 zerg?
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2721 Posts
June 19 2014 23:13 GMT
#1034
On June 20 2014 08:11 BisuDagger wrote:
Does this mean we stop calling polt a top 5 terran now, or do we start calling scarlettjwa a top 5 zerg?

Weakest matchup vs strongest matchup.
very illegal and very uncool
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
June 19 2014 23:15 GMT
#1035
On June 20 2014 08:11 BisuDagger wrote:
Does this mean we stop calling polt a top 5 terran now, or do we start calling scarlettjwa a top 5 zerg?

I think potentially neither is top 5 in their race.

Terran
1. Maru
2. Inno?
3. Taeja?
4. Bbyong?
5. Flash?
6. TY?
7. SuNo
8. Bomber?
9. Polt?
10. MKP?

For Zerg

1. soO
2. Soulkey
3. TRUE?
4. Life
5. Hyun?
6. JD?
7. Byul?
8. Solar?
9. RorO?
10. DRG?
11. Vortix?
12. Scarlett?

(? denotes I have not a fucking clue where to rank these people this is hard)
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19372 Posts
June 19 2014 23:15 GMT
#1036
On June 20 2014 08:13 argonautdice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 08:11 BisuDagger wrote:
Does this mean we stop calling polt a top 5 terran now, or do we start calling scarlettjwa a top 5 zerg?

Weakest matchup vs strongest matchup.

When you're the best you don't have a weakness.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
June 19 2014 23:16 GMT
#1037
On June 20 2014 08:11 BisuDagger wrote:
Does this mean we stop calling polt a top 5 terran now, or do we start calling scarlettjwa a top 5 zerg?

we call na ladder bad and we call kr ladder imba imo
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
kaykoose
Profile Joined February 2014
United States2302 Posts
June 19 2014 23:33 GMT
#1038
grats to Scarlett. Missed the last few games but I had saw enough to know Polt was gonna lose. He needs to go back to the drawing board TvZ
xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4066 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-19 23:41:36
June 19 2014 23:41 GMT
#1039
On June 20 2014 08:15 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 08:11 BisuDagger wrote:
Does this mean we stop calling polt a top 5 terran now, or do we start calling scarlettjwa a top 5 zerg?

I think potentially neither is top 5 in their race.

Terran
1. Maru
2. Inno?
3. Taeja?
4. Bbyong?
5. Flash?
6. TY?
7. SuNo
8. Bomber?
9. Polt?
10. MKP?

For Zerg

1. soO
2. Soulkey
3. TRUE?
4. Life
5. Hyun?
6. JD?
7. Byul?
8. Solar?
9. RorO?
10. DRG?
11. Vortix?
12. Scarlett?

(? denotes I have not a fucking clue where to rank these people this is hard)


JD on 6th, and DRG on 10th, and worse of all, Scarlett on 12th?

Amusing took a smile off me
<3 things - Life | Kane | Innovation | Scarlett | Solar | MMA
Swede
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand853 Posts
June 19 2014 23:42 GMT
#1040
On June 20 2014 08:33 kaykoose wrote:
grats to Scarlett. Missed the last few games but I had saw enough to know Polt was gonna lose. He needs to go back to the drawing board TvZ


I actually think Polt's overall strategy was fine. 4M v Muta/ling/bane is really close to evenly matched in my opinion, but Scarlett's execution was just unbelievably solid and Polt's was slightly flawed. The end result being that Scarlett wins.
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