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Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
June 07 2014 23:52 GMT
#2321
I've gained a new appreciation for Brood War as a game from this match. I think I just needed commentary from someone who was willing to explain it a bit - that was s skill that SC2 casters picked up that I dunno if BW ever had. That being said, the circlejerk of BW > SC2 still taints my perspective a fair amount. But I understand where the appeal came from, and the fact that it's so hard to call a fight is something that I really do find interesting.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44230 Posts
June 07 2014 23:52 GMT
#2322
On June 08 2014 08:49 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2014 08:48 goody153 wrote:
On June 08 2014 08:46 Elyvilon wrote:
On June 08 2014 08:45 Kipsate wrote:
On June 08 2014 08:42 goody153 wrote:
On June 08 2014 08:40 ZenithM wrote:
The one unit that is 100% better in SC2 is the marine, I feel ;D

yes ..

Stim is a lot stronger in SC1 though but I think the SC2 marine with their hp increase MIGHT be better.

Also it's easier to mass-produce marines in SC2 and the marine counters in terran and protoss are worse than they were in SC1.

but marines were so shit in sc1 when it comes to facing toss though


Deep six was such a fun build though

I remember a forgg game of that. Was it Kal he was facing ? i forgot
this is a quote
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
June 07 2014 23:53 GMT
#2323
On June 08 2014 08:48 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2014 08:47 Tanzklaue wrote:
On June 08 2014 08:45 Kipsate wrote:
On June 08 2014 08:42 goody153 wrote:
On June 08 2014 08:40 ZenithM wrote:
The one unit that is 100% better in SC2 is the marine, I feel ;D

yes ..

Stim is a lot stronger in SC1 though but I think the SC2 marine with their hp increase MIGHT be better.

well, in the context of the games, sc2 marines just crush sc1 marines in their utility. they are literally the central unit in 90% of terran builds.

Bio was only key in TvZ from my limited knowledge, and even then going Mech was a popular choice.

This is correct. There was one legendary game where Boxer rushed down iloveoov with bio and that's basically the only time you'll see medics in TvT. There was a TvP allin which used biomech, but outside of that you wouldn't really see medics and stim in TvP either.
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Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11369 Posts
June 07 2014 23:54 GMT
#2324
On June 08 2014 08:47 Darkhorse wrote:
Rofl the sheer amount of asshole-age in the BW forum thread for this is insane. No shit they are rusty what do you expect...

Meh. There's like 1-2 (or maybe just one) that are/is actually being a jerk about it. Observing that they are rusty is not necessarily asshole-age. Most enjoyed it, while laughing at the mis-micro's. (All those sair deaths for instance.)
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mars Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
June 07 2014 23:54 GMT
#2325
On June 08 2014 08:52 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2014 08:49 Fusilero wrote:
On June 08 2014 08:48 goody153 wrote:
On June 08 2014 08:46 Elyvilon wrote:
On June 08 2014 08:45 Kipsate wrote:
On June 08 2014 08:42 goody153 wrote:
On June 08 2014 08:40 ZenithM wrote:
The one unit that is 100% better in SC2 is the marine, I feel ;D

yes ..

Stim is a lot stronger in SC1 though but I think the SC2 marine with their hp increase MIGHT be better.

Also it's easier to mass-produce marines in SC2 and the marine counters in terran and protoss are worse than they were in SC1.

but marines were so shit in sc1 when it comes to facing toss though


Deep six was such a fun build though

I remember a forgg game of that. Was it Kal he was facing ? i forgot

I remember go.go beating bisu and manner CCing that was fun
Glorious SEA doto
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
June 07 2014 23:55 GMT
#2326
On June 08 2014 08:52 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2014 08:49 Fusilero wrote:
On June 08 2014 08:48 goody153 wrote:
On June 08 2014 08:46 Elyvilon wrote:
On June 08 2014 08:45 Kipsate wrote:
On June 08 2014 08:42 goody153 wrote:
On June 08 2014 08:40 ZenithM wrote:
The one unit that is 100% better in SC2 is the marine, I feel ;D

yes ..

Stim is a lot stronger in SC1 though but I think the SC2 marine with their hp increase MIGHT be better.

Also it's easier to mass-produce marines in SC2 and the marine counters in terran and protoss are worse than they were in SC1.

but marines were so shit in sc1 when it comes to facing toss though


Deep six was such a fun build though

I remember a forgg game of that. Was it Kal he was facing ? i forgot

The most I can remember of ForGG from broodwar was him losing to Kal when he made scouts.
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
June 07 2014 23:55 GMT
#2327
On June 08 2014 08:52 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2014 08:49 Fusilero wrote:
On June 08 2014 08:48 goody153 wrote:
On June 08 2014 08:46 Elyvilon wrote:
On June 08 2014 08:45 Kipsate wrote:
On June 08 2014 08:42 goody153 wrote:
On June 08 2014 08:40 ZenithM wrote:
The one unit that is 100% better in SC2 is the marine, I feel ;D

yes ..

Stim is a lot stronger in SC1 though but I think the SC2 marine with their hp increase MIGHT be better.

Also it's easier to mass-produce marines in SC2 and the marine counters in terran and protoss are worse than they were in SC1.

but marines were so shit in sc1 when it comes to facing toss though


Deep six was such a fun build though

I remember a forgg game of that. Was it Kal he was facing ? i forgot

forgg vs kal on tiamat in groups when he won his MSL was a sick game

Actually, like all the games forgg and kal played in that tournament were sick
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usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
June 07 2014 23:55 GMT
#2328
On June 08 2014 08:52 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2014 08:49 Fusilero wrote:
On June 08 2014 08:48 goody153 wrote:
On June 08 2014 08:46 Elyvilon wrote:
On June 08 2014 08:45 Kipsate wrote:
On June 08 2014 08:42 goody153 wrote:
On June 08 2014 08:40 ZenithM wrote:
The one unit that is 100% better in SC2 is the marine, I feel ;D

yes ..

Stim is a lot stronger in SC1 though but I think the SC2 marine with their hp increase MIGHT be better.

Also it's easier to mass-produce marines in SC2 and the marine counters in terran and protoss are worse than they were in SC1.

but marines were so shit in sc1 when it comes to facing toss though


Deep six was such a fun build though

I remember a forgg game of that. Was it Kal he was facing ? i forgot

Flash did it against Jangbi, too.
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
June 07 2014 23:56 GMT
#2329
On June 08 2014 08:52 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2014 08:49 Fusilero wrote:
On June 08 2014 08:48 goody153 wrote:
On June 08 2014 08:46 Elyvilon wrote:
On June 08 2014 08:45 Kipsate wrote:
On June 08 2014 08:42 goody153 wrote:
On June 08 2014 08:40 ZenithM wrote:
The one unit that is 100% better in SC2 is the marine, I feel ;D

yes ..

Stim is a lot stronger in SC1 though but I think the SC2 marine with their hp increase MIGHT be better.

Also it's easier to mass-produce marines in SC2 and the marine counters in terran and protoss are worse than they were in SC1.

but marines were so shit in sc1 when it comes to facing toss though


Deep six was such a fun build though

I remember a forgg game of that. Was it Kal he was facing ? i forgot


That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-07 23:58:37
June 07 2014 23:56 GMT
#2330
All 4 groups: Player who won opening match lost rematch in final match.
(P)Stork 2-0 (Z)Scarlett -> (Z)Scarlett 2-0 (P)Stork

(Z)Armani 2-1 (T)Dayshi -> (T)Dayshi 2-1 (Z)Armani

(P)HasuObs 2-1 (P)MC -> (P)MC 2-0 (P)HasuObs

(Z)Snute 2-1 (T)TaeJa -> (T)TaeJa 2-0 (Z)Snute
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
June 07 2014 23:57 GMT
#2331
Great showmatch, loved every bit of it. One more thing I miss from BW was the design of the air units, dogfights between wraiths and mutas or the rare cases of scouts was so entertaining.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
June 08 2014 00:05 GMT
#2332
On June 08 2014 08:57 Destructicon wrote:
Great showmatch, loved every bit of it. One more thing I miss from BW was the design of the air units, dogfights between wraiths and mutas or the rare cases of scouts was so entertaining.

dogfights tended to be either muta/scourge vs muta/scourge or muta/scourge vs sair.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
June 08 2014 00:09 GMT
#2333
On June 08 2014 07:37 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2014 07:36 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 08 2014 07:35 stuchiu wrote:
Day of Sjow

I thought you were a Startale fan? Startale fans don't talk about that silly

I wish they also stopped talking about their GSTL loss

I wish you would write a blog
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
June 08 2014 00:10 GMT
#2334
On June 08 2014 08:54 Falling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2014 08:47 Darkhorse wrote:
Rofl the sheer amount of asshole-age in the BW forum thread for this is insane. No shit they are rusty what do you expect...

Meh. There's like 1-2 (or maybe just one) that are/is actually being a jerk about it. Observing that they are rusty is not necessarily asshole-age. Most enjoyed it, while laughing at the mis-micro's. (All those sair deaths for instance.)

Yeah I possibly read like 2 posts and got annoyed my fault D:
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
June 08 2014 00:12 GMT
#2335
On June 08 2014 09:09 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2014 07:37 Lorning wrote:
On June 08 2014 07:36 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 08 2014 07:35 stuchiu wrote:
Day of Sjow

I thought you were a Startale fan? Startale fans don't talk about that silly

I wish they also stopped talking about their GSTL loss

I wish you would write a blog

I don't know what to write about
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
June 08 2014 00:13 GMT
#2336
On June 08 2014 09:12 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2014 09:09 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 08 2014 07:37 Lorning wrote:
On June 08 2014 07:36 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 08 2014 07:35 stuchiu wrote:
Day of Sjow

I thought you were a Startale fan? Startale fans don't talk about that silly

I wish they also stopped talking about their GSTL loss

I wish you would write a blog

I don't know what to write about

I have some big ideas.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Green_25
Profile Joined June 2013
Great Britain696 Posts
June 08 2014 00:14 GMT
#2337
Main thing I got out of that series was holy fucking shit archons. I completely forgot how freaking strong those guys were.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 08 2014 00:16 GMT
#2338
On June 08 2014 09:13 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2014 09:12 Lorning wrote:
On June 08 2014 09:09 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 08 2014 07:37 Lorning wrote:
On June 08 2014 07:36 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 08 2014 07:35 stuchiu wrote:
Day of Sjow

I thought you were a Startale fan? Startale fans don't talk about that silly

I wish they also stopped talking about their GSTL loss

I wish you would write a blog

I don't know what to write about

I have some big ideas.

why would he write a blog about your mom?
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
June 08 2014 00:17 GMT
#2339
On June 08 2014 09:16 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2014 09:13 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 08 2014 09:12 Lorning wrote:
On June 08 2014 09:09 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 08 2014 07:37 Lorning wrote:
On June 08 2014 07:36 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 08 2014 07:35 stuchiu wrote:
Day of Sjow

I thought you were a Startale fan? Startale fans don't talk about that silly

I wish they also stopped talking about their GSTL loss

I wish you would write a blog

I don't know what to write about

I have some big ideas.

why would he write a blog about your mom?

I wish I could report you for a personal attack on my dear mother
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
June 08 2014 00:19 GMT
#2340
On June 08 2014 09:17 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2014 09:16 Shellshock wrote:
On June 08 2014 09:13 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 08 2014 09:12 Lorning wrote:
On June 08 2014 09:09 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 08 2014 07:37 Lorning wrote:
On June 08 2014 07:36 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 08 2014 07:35 stuchiu wrote:
Day of Sjow

I thought you were a Startale fan? Startale fans don't talk about that silly

I wish they also stopped talking about their GSTL loss

I wish you would write a blog

I don't know what to write about

I have some big ideas.

why would he write a blog about your mom?

I wish I could report you for a personal attack on my dear mother

Woah, it's getting personal
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