• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 04:28
CEST 10:28
KST 17:28
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event1Serral wins EWC 202543Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments4[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced63
StarCraft 2
General
uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread Official Ladder Map Pool Update (April 28, 2025) Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up
Tourneys
LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments WardiTV Mondays RSL Season 2 Qualifier Links and Dates StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) Global Tourney for College Students in September
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars
Brood War
General
ASL Season 20 Ro24 Groups StarCraft player reflex TE scores Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
KCM 2025 Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[\m/] Heavy Metal Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 668 users

[WCS AM] Ro8 Day 1 Premier Season 1 2014 - Page 35

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 33 34 35 36 37 63 Next
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-10 22:16:08
April 10 2014 22:15 GMT
#681
On April 11 2014 07:13 SC2Toastie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 07:12 pure.Wasted wrote:
On April 11 2014 07:10 sAsImre wrote:
On April 11 2014 07:00 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 11 2014 06:59 Yorkie wrote:
The only thing Alicia scouted was Bomber's location, so don't get on "Bomber should've scouted." If he only scouted Alicia's location he wouldn't have known it was an 8 gate. he chose the most likely all-in, and it didn't work because forcefield and timewarp provide for an impossible predicament for terrans with narrow ramps


"I should be able to defend every Protoss all-in with just one bunker and no scouting, otherwise Protoss op"


actually P defends every all in without scouting by playing safe in pvt.


Where "playing safe" = "building an MSC."

I want to know where the banhammers are at...
Like, seriously.


Banhammer for what? Saying Protoss is hard to pressure early even if they're not on top of their scouting? Are you joking me?
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
dinosrwar
Profile Joined September 2011
1290 Posts
April 10 2014 22:15 GMT
#682
On April 11 2014 07:10 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 07:10 Shellshock wrote:
These games are all irrelevant anyways. Polt is going to win WCS AM regardless of who makes the finals

serious question: except tb, who's been cheering for alicia? and I'm talking about "for alicia", not "against bomber"


alicia has been a boss since slayers.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 10 2014 22:15 GMT
#683
On April 11 2014 07:13 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 07:13 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On April 11 2014 07:09 Darkhorse wrote:
The main issue here is that I am now sub 50% on predictions so far.


My day has been 0/5. Solid.

Wow there, Fionntosis


The last time Fionn and Artosis predicted the same person to win I think IPL died, Fionn went to LoL and Tasteless regained his passion.
Moderator
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-10 22:16:50
April 10 2014 22:15 GMT
#684
On April 11 2014 07:14 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 07:12 Wintex wrote:
On April 11 2014 07:10 Crot4le wrote:
A disgusting amount of disrespect in this thread. Too many butthurt balance whiners and prats in general.

It's fun to play saint when your player wins, isn't it?


If we're going to declare player bashing a matter of opinion, I'm running straight out of this forum.

I'm not defending them. Report those and move on to good posts. Meeting negativity is rarely a good response to negativity.

Edit: autocorrect
The Bomber boy
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
April 10 2014 22:16 GMT
#685
On April 11 2014 07:15 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 07:14 SC2Toastie wrote:
On April 11 2014 07:13 Shellshock wrote:
On April 11 2014 07:12 Darkhorse wrote:
On April 11 2014 07:10 stuchiu wrote:
On April 11 2014 07:09 Darkhorse wrote:
The main issue here is that I am now sub 50% on predictions so far.


Are you neo-zealousy?

God I hope not.

Jin Air going to last place asap

nonono qq!!

I apologize. I may have inadvertently spread the curse

Stay off Prime please
Community News
TL+ Member
Caladan
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany1238 Posts
April 10 2014 22:16 GMT
#686
White-Ra sitting in the background. <3
So sad he's not playing on the top level anymore.
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
April 10 2014 22:16 GMT
#687
On April 11 2014 07:15 Crot4le wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 07:10 The_Templar wrote:
On April 11 2014 07:10 Crot4le wrote:
On April 11 2014 07:00 partydude89 wrote:
I want Alicia to lose. I don't care who wins anymore, i just want Alicia to be out.


Butthurt much?

It's ok, Alicia gets to lose to TaeJa next round.


How does that work? I thought Protoss was too OP and that it will always win and there is nothing Terran can do about it.

Scout trollol
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
April 10 2014 22:16 GMT
#688
On April 11 2014 07:11 SC2Toastie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 07:10 Qwerty85 wrote:
On April 11 2014 07:01 Negius wrote:
On April 11 2014 07:00 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 11 2014 06:59 Yorkie wrote:
The only thing Alicia scouted was Bomber's location, so don't get on "Bomber should've scouted." If he only scouted Alicia's location he wouldn't have known it was an 8 gate. he chose the most likely all-in, and it didn't work because forcefield and timewarp provide for an impossible predicament for terrans with narrow ramps


"I should be able to defend every Protoss all-in with just one bunker and no scouting, otherwise Protoss op"


This. Bomber didn't scout. I like him, but that was the mistake that cost him the game.


Oh come on. It comes down to protoss deciding to do a build order because he knows it is 12 repaer expand or maybe cc 1st on big 4 player maps 99% of the time and the rest is up to the terran. If you manage to scout you have a chance of winning, if you don't you straight up lose. Protoss has little to worry about.

Early game should be neutral not favored for any race because it sets the pace for the rest of the game. And the early game TvP is just very unforgiving for terran, reducing the problem just to scouting when you are watching pro level players is such a dumb argument.

Even if Bomber went for a 12/12 reaper expo to have better scouting he would still behind against a player who went for a nexus 1st build. 12/12 is not really economical build, especially compared to nexus 1st.....

Yes, you can get a better or worse end of a build order in any matchup but TvP is specific because terran is forced to go into 12/12 basically every game, you don't have much choice about it.

With the exception that you can kill a good number of probes easilly, and have a long time of full scouting...


You missed my point. Protoss going for a nexus 1st is a calculated risk (it is a 4 player map, he wont scout me in time etc). It is a choice. Terran is basically forced into 12/12 because it is only reliable way of scouting.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
April 10 2014 22:16 GMT
#689
On April 11 2014 07:14 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 07:10 boxerfred wrote:
On April 11 2014 07:10 Shellshock wrote:
These games are all irrelevant anyways. Polt is going to win WCS AM regardless of who makes the finals

serious question: except tb, who's been cheering for alicia? and I'm talking about "for alicia", not "against bomber"


I was cheering for Alicia. I still remember his amazing DT plays at MLG, and I don't have much of an opinion about Bomber.

he's always been kind of under the radar, I think? I can't remember seeing him in an especially rememberable series, which is kinda sad :/. gl to him though, I think he won't make the finals.
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
April 10 2014 22:16 GMT
#690
On April 11 2014 07:12 SC2Toastie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 07:12 Squat wrote:
On April 11 2014 07:06 FuRRie wrote:
I never understood the rage for cheese/all-in/...

You play to win, you play out your own strenghts, and if possible into the opponents weaknesses.


Every commercialized competition is, at it's core, entertainment first. If people don't enjoy what they see, no matter how much work and dedication and skill is being displayed, the sport is unlikely to flourish. Alicia's job is to win, which he did. Sc2's job is to entertain, which is a little more of a mixed bag.

Players aren't responsible for the entertainment - they're supposed to win.
Entertainment is the burden of the rulemakers.

Did you read one word of what I wrote?
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
April 10 2014 22:16 GMT
#691
On April 11 2014 07:13 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 07:09 Darkhorse wrote:
The main issue here is that I am now sub 50% on predictions so far.


My day has been 0/5. Solid.


2/5, thank god i was ignorant and didnt jump the Vortix hype train
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
April 10 2014 22:16 GMT
#692
On April 11 2014 07:15 Crot4le wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 07:10 The_Templar wrote:
On April 11 2014 07:10 Crot4le wrote:
On April 11 2014 07:00 partydude89 wrote:
I want Alicia to lose. I don't care who wins anymore, i just want Alicia to be out.


Butthurt much?

It's ok, Alicia gets to lose to TaeJa next round.


How does that work? I thought Protoss was too OP and that it will always win and there is nothing Terran can do about it.

It's TaeJa.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
April 10 2014 22:16 GMT
#693
On April 11 2014 07:13 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 07:13 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On April 11 2014 07:09 Darkhorse wrote:
The main issue here is that I am now sub 50% on predictions so far.


My day has been 0/5. Solid.

Wow there, Fionntosis


Got Paralyze and DRG though so I think I should get 2x0,5
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
April 10 2014 22:16 GMT
#694
On April 11 2014 07:10 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 07:10 Shellshock wrote:
These games are all irrelevant anyways. Polt is going to win WCS AM regardless of who makes the finals

serious question: except tb, who's been cheering for alicia? and I'm talking about "for alicia", not "against bomber"

Serious question: Why does it matter, who people cheer for? This should be the best players, not the most popular. People will complain a bit about their favorite losing and then go on and call teh next round "so stacked" because of players like Alicia. Ofc. Bomber is equally good, but at this very day Alicia was better. Life goes on. We should prefer good but not neccessarily popular players we have over a possible scenario, where Destiny, avilo and Spanishiwa are seeded deep into tournaments because people want them to.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 10 2014 22:16 GMT
#695
Guys srsly Darkhoarse is neo-Fionn! Remember whenever Polt was mentioned everyone was like who? Etc because everyone forgot his win so he was invisble thats right fionn. Who supports the current most invisble terran st the moment? Darkhorse. Who used to curse everyone? Fionn. Who curses people now? Darkhoarse.

I think I am onto something
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Deleted User 261926
Profile Joined April 2012
960 Posts
April 10 2014 22:16 GMT
#696
On April 11 2014 07:14 Tossim111 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 07:11 Karpfen wrote:
On April 11 2014 07:10 sAsImre wrote:
On April 11 2014 07:00 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 11 2014 06:59 Yorkie wrote:
The only thing Alicia scouted was Bomber's location, so don't get on "Bomber should've scouted." If he only scouted Alicia's location he wouldn't have known it was an 8 gate. he chose the most likely all-in, and it didn't work because forcefield and timewarp provide for an impossible predicament for terrans with narrow ramps


"I should be able to defend every Protoss all-in with just one bunker and no scouting, otherwise Protoss op"


actually P defends every all in without scouting by playing safe in pvt.

Stop lying. Once I went 4 nexus before gate and a terran had the guts of proxy 2 raxing me. Despite being pretty good at micro (and he not microing at all) I didn't manage to hold..

nexus before gate is not playing safe in pvt

I meant nexi there.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 10 2014 22:16 GMT
#697
On April 11 2014 07:16 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 07:15 Darkhorse wrote:
On April 11 2014 07:14 SC2Toastie wrote:
On April 11 2014 07:13 Shellshock wrote:
On April 11 2014 07:12 Darkhorse wrote:
On April 11 2014 07:10 stuchiu wrote:
On April 11 2014 07:09 Darkhorse wrote:
The main issue here is that I am now sub 50% on predictions so far.


Are you neo-zealousy?

God I hope not.

Jin Air going to last place asap

nonono qq!!

I apologize. I may have inadvertently spread the curse

Stay off Prime please

cursing Prime: a negative x a negative = a positive? Prime to first place?
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
April 10 2014 22:16 GMT
#698
On April 11 2014 07:15 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 07:13 Lorning wrote:
On April 11 2014 07:13 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On April 11 2014 07:09 Darkhorse wrote:
The main issue here is that I am now sub 50% on predictions so far.


My day has been 0/5. Solid.

Wow there, Fionntosis


The last time Fionn and Artosis predicted the same person to win I think IPL died, Fionn went to LoL and Tasteless regained his passion.


So that's a 1/3 win. Surprisingly good?
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
April 10 2014 22:17 GMT
#699
On April 11 2014 07:15 pure.Wasted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 07:13 SC2Toastie wrote:
On April 11 2014 07:12 pure.Wasted wrote:
On April 11 2014 07:10 sAsImre wrote:
On April 11 2014 07:00 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 11 2014 06:59 Yorkie wrote:
The only thing Alicia scouted was Bomber's location, so don't get on "Bomber should've scouted." If he only scouted Alicia's location he wouldn't have known it was an 8 gate. he chose the most likely all-in, and it didn't work because forcefield and timewarp provide for an impossible predicament for terrans with narrow ramps


"I should be able to defend every Protoss all-in with just one bunker and no scouting, otherwise Protoss op"


actually P defends every all in without scouting by playing safe in pvt.


Where "playing safe" = "building an MSC."

I want to know where the banhammers are at...
Like, seriously.


Banhammer for what? Saying Protoss is hard to pressure early even if they're not on top of their scouting? Are you joking me?

The guy before you, you're coming close, the other dozen of whiners...
Believe me, I've done this and I've been warned for less xD
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
April 10 2014 22:17 GMT
#700
On April 11 2014 07:16 GumBa wrote:
Guys srsly Darkhoarse is neo-Fionn! Remember whenever Polt was mentioned everyone was like who? Etc because everyone forgot his win so he was invisble thats right fionn. Who supports the current most invisble terran st the moment? Darkhorse. Who used to curse everyone? Fionn. Who curses people now? Darkhoarse.

I think I am onto something

And Darkhorse is becoming a writer.
Wow. You are absolutely right!!
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Prev 1 33 34 35 36 37 63 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 32m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 189
trigger 87
StarCraft: Brood War
Mong 872
ggaemo 726
BeSt 112
Dewaltoss 75
Larva 46
soO 40
Sharp 39
Sacsri 27
Bale 20
NaDa 16
[ Show more ]
Hyuk 11
yabsab 5
Dota 2
ODPixel709
XcaliburYe418
Fuzer 205
League of Legends
JimRising 471
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K782
shoxiejesuss529
allub202
Super Smash Bros
Westballz36
Other Games
summit1g24407
WinterStarcraft492
ceh9472
crisheroes324
Tasteless182
SortOf123
NeuroSwarm60
rGuardiaN31
xp34
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta22
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt1107
Upcoming Events
LiuLi Cup
2h 32m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6h 32m
RSL Revival
17h 32m
RSL Revival
1d 1h
SC Evo League
1d 3h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 6h
CSO Cup
1d 7h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
[ Show More ]
RotterdaM Event
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
The PondCast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.