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Acer TeamStory Cup Season 3 Qualifier - Page 55

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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 24 2014 21:53 GMT
#1081
On March 25 2014 06:51 Darkhorse wrote:
THE BOUNTY HYUNTERS ARE SENT BACK FROM WHENCE THEY CAME


Europe
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
March 24 2014 21:53 GMT
#1082
Holy what
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
March 24 2014 21:53 GMT
#1083
Justice demands retribution!

woot woot
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-24 21:54:11
March 24 2014 21:54 GMT
#1084
On March 25 2014 06:53 Boucot wrote:
Holy what


Should have prayed to Finland Protoss like the rest of us.
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Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
March 24 2014 21:54 GMT
#1085
i am not sure the bountyhunters know what hit them
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
March 24 2014 21:54 GMT
#1086
Mvp probably walked past all of them and shook his head.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-24 21:55:56
March 24 2014 21:54 GMT
#1087
On March 25 2014 06:51 Socke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2014 06:42 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On March 25 2014 06:35 Socke wrote:
On March 25 2014 06:20 TotalBiscuit wrote:
The difference is taking two rosters and merging them vs cherry-picking from a roster.


Good job cherry-picking MMA and Innovation to win last GSTL season then? -_-;
Why is it OUTRAGEOUS if its only 1 player, but as soon as theres 2 or more its ok? i dont really get it.


Socke quit being obtuse. It's against the spirit of the competition and you know it. We got the entire Korean wing of Acer, which happened to be 2 players, who were both living in our house. Not only that but it was entirely within the GSTL rules. This nonsense going on is only "within the rules" because Take.TV admins have taken a very liberal interpretation of what those rules are.



"1.4 Cooperation
A cooperation between two(2) teams is allowed. They will handled exactly like a stand alone team. e.g. Axiom-Acer in GSTL
The name of a cooperation have to make sure that both team names are included."

Since it says teams in the rulebook, not organisations one might argue that this rule intends not to enable teams to partner with other organizations (or groups of) players.
But the admins who created the rules allowed teams to partner with organisations when the lineups were communicated, so it seems to me that with the quoted excerpt they intended to allow 2 organisations, not teams to partner. So its not against the rules id say.
Why are you getting upset about how the Admins are interpreting their rules prior to the start of a tournament?
How can it be against the spirit of the competition to allow 1 player from another team to participate, and fully in the spirit of the competition to include 2?


That should be obvious. Including one player is exactly the same as including one player under the Joker rule, which was abolished after a lot of disagreement from team owners and rightfully so. There is no effective difference.

I am annoyed that the admins chose to interpret the rules in such a way that surprised other teams and caught them off guard during the qualifier and also did not mention these "cooperations" to any of the participating teams who were already qualified from the last season. I am also annoyed that the admins then made excuses up to and including claiming that management agencies were somehow teams, which has never been held to be true (and with good reason).

Anyway, at this point it does not matter. All the teams who looked to take this route were knocked out, so the only disagreement I have remaining at this point is the fact that Empire-Fnatic did not have to requalify when last season they played under Empire-Ence and were effectively a completely different team.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 24 2014 21:54 GMT
#1088
On March 25 2014 06:54 Popkiller wrote:
Mvp probably walked past all of them and shook his head.


Don't touch me with your dirty non 3-gsl winning hands.
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ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
March 24 2014 21:55 GMT
#1089
On March 25 2014 06:54 Popkiller wrote:
Mvp probably walked past all of them and shook his head.

You must have missed Fight Night!
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 24 2014 21:55 GMT
#1090
On March 25 2014 06:50 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 04:06 NovaMB wrote:
Predictions:

EG from bracket 1:
Teams would have to beat Jaedong twice and then beat JYP/HuK/Demuslim/Suppy. I dont think Root can do it(I dont even know half their current players, is Sage still playing ?) Honestly I can see Root lose to Punchline.

Newrosoft from bracket 2:
I just want to see them in here, Alternate wont be too difficult I feel, Lambo and kaup are good players, but probably not enough and I think Welmu or Nightend can beat MC and First in PvP

Yoe Flash Wolves from bracket 3:
Teams would have to beat Leenock+ San + Has + Ian and San/Leenock again. Not happening, unless Check goes crazy again.
Alien Invasion could do it if IEM qualifier Revenge is playing and not EPS Revenge

mYinsanity from bracket 4:
Obvious choice, Stardust/jjakji/Kane should be enough for the teams in the bracket, dignitas+Sen has a shot, but Sen and Tefel have to be on their game.

Edit: I'm also guessing the early starting time is for the Asian teams and not all clanwars will be played at the same time?

Fucking called it

Don't get cocky now Patience/Golden/Strelok/Revenge could pull the upset. Not likely but possible
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y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
March 24 2014 21:55 GMT
#1091
On March 25 2014 06:51 Socke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2014 06:42 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On March 25 2014 06:35 Socke wrote:
On March 25 2014 06:20 TotalBiscuit wrote:
The difference is taking two rosters and merging them vs cherry-picking from a roster.


Good job cherry-picking MMA and Innovation to win last GSTL season then? -_-;
Why is it OUTRAGEOUS if its only 1 player, but as soon as theres 2 or more its ok? i dont really get it.


Socke quit being obtuse. It's against the spirit of the competition and you know it. We got the entire Korean wing of Acer, which happened to be 2 players, who were both living in our house. Not only that but it was entirely within the GSTL rules. This nonsense going on is only "within the rules" because Take.TV admins have taken a very liberal interpretation of what those rules are.



"1.4 Cooperation
A cooperation between two(2) teams is allowed. They will handled exactly like a stand alone team. e.g. Axiom-Acer in GSTL
The name of a cooperation have to make sure that both team names are included."

Since it says teams in the rulebook, not organisations one might argue that this rule intends not to enable teams to partner with other organizations (or groups of) players.
But the admins who created the rules allowed teams to partner with organisations when the lineups were communicated, so it seems to me that with the quoted excerpt they intended to allow 2 organisations, not teams to partner. So its not against the rules id say.
Why are you getting upset about how the Admins are interpreting their rules prior to the start of a tournament?
How can it be against the spirit of the competition to allow 1 player from another team to participate, and fully in the spirit of the competition to include 2?

what part of "breaking the spirit of the rules" don't you understand?
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
March 24 2014 21:56 GMT
#1092
On March 25 2014 06:55 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2014 06:50 NovaMB wrote:
On March 21 2014 04:06 NovaMB wrote:
Predictions:

EG from bracket 1:
Teams would have to beat Jaedong twice and then beat JYP/HuK/Demuslim/Suppy. I dont think Root can do it(I dont even know half their current players, is Sage still playing ?) Honestly I can see Root lose to Punchline.

Newrosoft from bracket 2:
I just want to see them in here, Alternate wont be too difficult I feel, Lambo and kaup are good players, but probably not enough and I think Welmu or Nightend can beat MC and First in PvP

Yoe Flash Wolves from bracket 3:
Teams would have to beat Leenock+ San + Has + Ian and San/Leenock again. Not happening, unless Check goes crazy again.
Alien Invasion could do it if IEM qualifier Revenge is playing and not EPS Revenge

mYinsanity from bracket 4:
Obvious choice, Stardust/jjakji/Kane should be enough for the teams in the bracket, dignitas+Sen has a shot, but Sen and Tefel have to be on their game.

Edit: I'm also guessing the early starting time is for the Asian teams and not all clanwars will be played at the same time?

Fucking called it

Don't get cocky now Patience/Golden/Strelok/Revenge could pull the upset. Not likely but possible

I got the shot into the blue right, I'm happy. Also the drama part was thankfully eliminated by our finnish overlords
Vesimias
Profile Joined July 2012
Finland135 Posts
March 24 2014 21:56 GMT
#1093
Let us praise the Finnish Protoss gods and remember our holy texts: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/442797-the-book-of-elfi#1
Fan of: HerO, Maru, elfi, Welmu, Liquid HerO 4ever<3
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 24 2014 21:56 GMT
#1094
On March 25 2014 06:54 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2014 06:54 Popkiller wrote:
Mvp probably walked past all of them and shook his head.


Don't touch me with your dirty non 3-gsl winning hands.

So only Nestea can touch him? Mvp won 4.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 24 2014 21:56 GMT
#1095
On March 25 2014 06:51 Socke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2014 06:42 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On March 25 2014 06:35 Socke wrote:
On March 25 2014 06:20 TotalBiscuit wrote:
The difference is taking two rosters and merging them vs cherry-picking from a roster.


Good job cherry-picking MMA and Innovation to win last GSTL season then? -_-;
Why is it OUTRAGEOUS if its only 1 player, but as soon as theres 2 or more its ok? i dont really get it.


Socke quit being obtuse. It's against the spirit of the competition and you know it. We got the entire Korean wing of Acer, which happened to be 2 players, who were both living in our house. Not only that but it was entirely within the GSTL rules. This nonsense going on is only "within the rules" because Take.TV admins have taken a very liberal interpretation of what those rules are.



"1.4 Cooperation
A cooperation between two(2) teams is allowed. They will handled exactly like a stand alone team. e.g. Axiom-Acer in GSTL
The name of a cooperation have to make sure that both team names are included."

Since it says teams in the rulebook, not organisations one might argue that this rule intends not to enable teams to partner with other organizations (or groups of) players.
But the admins who created the rules allowed teams to partner with organisations when the lineups were communicated, so it seems to me that with the quoted excerpt they intended to allow 2 organisations, not teams to partner. So its not against the rules id say.
Why are you getting upset about how the Admins are interpreting their rules prior to the start of a tournament?
How can it be against the spirit of the competition to allow 1 player from another team to participate, and fully in the spirit of the competition to include 2?


Because people are manipulating this rule specifically to get a Joker even when the Joker rule was removed, and the admins accepted (because their rules weren't airtight) despite other teams not using a Joker due to the removal of that rule, which is unfair towards them, since they could also have manipulated this rule similarly.
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
March 24 2014 21:58 GMT
#1096
On March 25 2014 06:52 VeNoM HaZ Skill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2014 06:50 SmoKim wrote:
So Welmu just killed the Korean A-Team

gg i guess impressive

MC is the Korean A-team? Oh man it's 2011 again! Time to buy Netflix and Chipotle stock.


I pity the fools that ecounters Welmu
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
March 24 2014 21:59 GMT
#1097
I checked the qualifiers on liquipedia, foreigners overall did a good job
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
March 24 2014 21:59 GMT
#1098
On March 25 2014 06:58 SmoKim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2014 06:52 VeNoM HaZ Skill wrote:
On March 25 2014 06:50 SmoKim wrote:
So Welmu just killed the Korean A-Team

gg i guess impressive

MC is the Korean A-team? Oh man it's 2011 again! Time to buy Netflix and Chipotle stock.


I pity the fools that ecounters Welmu

Poor BabyK D:
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
March 24 2014 22:00 GMT
#1099
On March 25 2014 06:59 Makro wrote:
I checked the qualifiers on liquipedia, foreigners overall did a good job

especially the swiss ones
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 24 2014 22:00 GMT
#1100
On March 25 2014 06:56 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2014 06:54 stuchiu wrote:
On March 25 2014 06:54 Popkiller wrote:
Mvp probably walked past all of them and shook his head.


Don't touch me with your dirty non 3-gsl winning hands.

So only Nestea can touch him? Mvp won 4.


Correct.
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