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Moobla
Profile Joined May 2011
United States186 Posts
March 16 2014 06:18 GMT
#181
I think Mozart will 4-0 herO.

Why are people talking about classical music in a LR thread? Save it for youtube.
"If you aren't attacking, you are probably losing." -QXC
illidanx
Profile Joined November 2011
United States973 Posts
March 16 2014 06:49 GMT
#182
LET'S GET HYPED!!!11
This is the FIRST ALL KESPA final in a foreign event!!1
Die-hard KeSPA fan
Emerson_H
Profile Joined March 2014
United States460 Posts
March 16 2014 07:04 GMT
#183
On March 16 2014 14:44 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 13:52 AxiomBlurr wrote:
On March 16 2014 13:02 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 16 2014 12:43 AxiomBlurr wrote:
On March 16 2014 12:17 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 16 2014 12:09 lichter wrote:
sOs is the greatest protoss on earth, people who don't like him probably didn't like Da Vinci or Mozart either

I'm an sOs fan. I'm not even mad he beat JD, who I am also a fan of.

But Mozart is a shitty and overrated composer.


Mozart is overrated? WTF? Requiem mass? String Quartet in Dminor? Clarinet Quintet? Don Giovanni Overture (penned in under an hour???) Ummm yeah Overrated ...lol goodwork

Requiem is the only thing by Mozart I consider worth listening to, a swan song of sorts. The string quartet and clarinet quintet are far too refined and self-restricted. Might be just a product of the classical era of the 18th century, but there's a lack of any real emotion in either one of the two.

I don't care if Don Giovanni took an hour or a year to write. Composing isn't a race. At least this one isn't banal like a lot of his other works, but it's still not anything like the huge reputation we give him for some reason.

Mozart wrote most of his work to a formula, and it survives because the formula was in style at the time. He was the child pop star of his day, and wrote for anyone who would pay him money because that's how he made his living. His art wasn't primarily for the sake of exploration or discovery or beauty, it was for bread. Maybe he was a musical genius, but it's not evident in most of his music.

Beethoven is a brilliant composer of the Classical era. Haydn is a brilliant composer of the classical era. Mozart is not.

Also lol wut


Schubert for me is the ultimate composer...and the String Quartet in D minor including the string quintet in g minor by mozart were both huge for Schubert... 1) they push the texture possible for chamber music and 2) they are highly emotional and force the sonata model to bend to emotional tension.

Beethoven agreed, Haydn was a very good composer,,,but only that - not genius.

As for composing as a race...that was not my point...my point was: to produce music of such a high quality in such a short time is an apt example of why Mozart is a giant still today.


The jealousy of Salieri is purely fictional - Play by Peter Schaeffer...


PS: gooooo sOs!!!

Schubert is a wonderful composer, but he took Mozart's music and carried it somewhere. He and Beethoven are really the ones who started the Romantic era, which I have to admit I'm biased towards.

I like Haydn's music because it's happy beyond just the neutral-happy in vogue at the time. The trumpet concerto for instance shows off the trumpet player's skill while still offering a lot of emotion.


Why Mozart is a good composer:


I can understand this hate though, I used to have prejudices against Mozart myself when I first started listening to classical, but with time I am beginning to understand more and more why he was so great. Albert Einstein said “Mozart’s music is so pure and beautiful that I see it as a reflection of the inner beauty of the universe.” I acknowledge him as the third greatest composer of all time after Bach (#1) and Beethoven (#2).
GreenFate
Profile Joined March 2011
France289 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-16 07:15:58
March 16 2014 07:15 GMT
#184
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
March 16 2014 07:28 GMT
#185
On March 16 2014 15:49 illidanx wrote:
LET'S GET HYPED!!!11
This is the FIRST ALL KESPA final in a foreign event!!1

I appreciate your sarcastic sense of humor.
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
March 16 2014 08:11 GMT
#186
If you were in the final and were offered a deal in which the winner had to share $25,000 with the loser, would you take it?
BAAEEMM
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany412 Posts
March 16 2014 08:31 GMT
#187
Is it even allowed to make deals? It's for example common practice in Poker (although not every event allows it).

But yeah, I'd take a deal over 25k any day of the week.
RoranRock
Profile Joined October 2011
France294 Posts
March 16 2014 08:37 GMT
#188
could have watch this but i can't see the hearthstone tournament :/

That's sad so have so many PvP finals, IMO it's the most boring match up...
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." Albert Einstein
Zprit
Profile Joined July 2013
92 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-16 08:39:30
March 16 2014 08:39 GMT
#189
On March 16 2014 17:31 BAAEEMM wrote:
Is it even allowed to make deals? It's for example common practice in Poker (although not every event allows it).

But yeah, I'd take a deal over 25k any day of the week.


IIRC Carmack stated on reddit that they knew that was a risk and even made it sound as if that was one of the reasons they did it (if memory serves) since it would create buzz about the event or something. I think they are fine with it.
Pyloss
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1515 Posts
March 16 2014 08:55 GMT
#190
No matter what all the whiners said - this will be an exellent finale. Both players have shown amazing play during this tournament, and both do deserve it to be in the finals. I'll cheer for sOs, but herO is a nice guy too.
<3 sOs, Parting, Mana, Honor, TaKe, Mcanning<3
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
March 16 2014 09:06 GMT
#191
i am probably gonna watch this just cuz why not, hero is handsome, he just happens to play the wrong race.
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
March 16 2014 09:14 GMT
#192
I wasn't a big fan of PvP until fairly recently.

But damn, if people can't appreciate the awesome that was the Group C(I think it was C?) Code S RO16 group of Protoss then I don't think they ever will. Those games were just plain awesome, and it was PvP all night long.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 16 2014 09:16 GMT
#193
On March 16 2014 15:18 Moobla wrote:
I think Mozart will 4-0 herO.

Why are people talking about classical music in a LR thread? Save it for youtube.

The best discussions about classical music happen in youtube videos of a remix - a la this:
TumNarDok
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany854 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-16 09:43:15
March 16 2014 09:22 GMT
#194
Here is the plan for my sunday

13:00 CET Counterstrike Global Offensive - Virtus.pro <> Ninjas in Pyjamas
15:30 CET Starcraft II: Heart of the Swarm - (P)sOs <> (P)herO[jOin]
17:30 CET League of Legends - Fnatic <> KT Rolster Bullets
17:30 CET EVE New Eden open - Thingy, WeHurt, Warlords of the Deep
21:00 CET Hearthstone - tbd (prelims start 18.00)

and some ProLeague as warmup

Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 16 2014 09:31 GMT
#195
Ah I'm so sorry for IEM that it came to this, really wished them a tvz. Cheering for herO.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Furikawari
Profile Joined February 2014
France2522 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-16 09:31:38
March 16 2014 09:31 GMT
#196
sOs showed some crazy/good play, herO showed blink blink and blink and... blink (well, he already did in GSL, and it worked, so why not?)... So I guess I'll go for sOs.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
March 16 2014 09:37 GMT
#197
enjoy your 100k PvP. i'll do my coursework.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
March 16 2014 09:52 GMT
#198
On March 16 2014 10:10 The_Templar wrote:
This will be an amazing finals

Im so hyped
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
March 16 2014 09:59 GMT
#199
Best classical music is symphonic metal
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18524 Posts
March 16 2014 10:33 GMT
#200
On March 16 2014 18:37 Schelim wrote:
enjoy your 100k PvP. i'll do my coursework.


no matchup would have gotten 100k, stop being bitter
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