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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 15 2014 18:58 GMT
#4201
On March 16 2014 03:52 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 03:45 bo1b wrote:
On March 16 2014 03:42 BigFan wrote:
On March 16 2014 03:41 bo1b wrote:
Honestly that was incredibly dissapointing from life, his micro was back in shape but he kept making such silly decisions over and over, we saw the constant run by metagame like 3/4 months ago, and it never worked there so I don't know why he's trying it now.

Undermaking banelings, suiciding banelings, not making mutas for no real reason (when muta/ling/bling is almost indisputably the best comp until ultra/infestor comes out and even then it's pretty fucking good). Ugh, really disappointing to see him get a pretty sizable lead every game then throw it away. Should have been a 3:0 tbh

it's his style so you can't ask him to change that.

I can ask him to run by into targets that are actually worth hitting, like production though. Honestly his style is self defeating

He did some pretty good damage with it. I'm not sure how familiar you are with BW but as an example: Bisu is known for his use of dts and corsairs. Even after his opponent know his style and adapt to it(spores+hydras to defend), they will eventually suffer damage with it. In starcraft, all it takes is for you to not notice a runby, drop etc... and you can lose quite a lot of infrastructure, workers and such. I blame life losing for his mistakes and less so for the runbys even if some weren't very cost efficient.

Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 03:45 ArTiFaKs wrote:
On March 16 2014 03:42 BigFan wrote:
On March 16 2014 03:41 bo1b wrote:
Honestly that was incredibly dissapointing from life, his micro was back in shape but he kept making such silly decisions over and over, we saw the constant run by metagame like 3/4 months ago, and it never worked there so I don't know why he's trying it now.

Undermaking banelings, suiciding banelings, not making mutas for no real reason (when muta/ling/bling is almost indisputably the best comp until ultra/infestor comes out and even then it's pretty fucking good). Ugh, really disappointing to see him get a pretty sizable lead every game then throw it away. Should have been a 3:0 tbh

it's his style so you can't ask him to change that.


Throwing away banelings for SCVs is the dumbest "style" you can ever have. He will never beat a decent Terran if he keeps doing that. Everyone has basically figured out that the more muta heavy compositions are x10 better than the heavy ling style. 35 Mutas is way more of a threat than 80 lings that can die in 5 seconds. And he was consistently banking like 3k gas all game he could've easily cut back on the lings and made more banelings/mutas/bases in general. Just my opinion anyways and I think the recent ZvT's have shown that's true.

I wasn't actually commenting on the banelings aspect but more so on the constant ling runbys. He's been doing it since he came onto the scene(or at least GSL and other tourneys) so I don't see why he should stop. In those games, the runbys did a lot of damage. I think Taeja needs to be given a lot of credit for minimizing the damage and if it wasn't for life detonating his banes in games 1 and 2, then this could've been his series..

I've actually watched quite a lot of broodwar, though I haven't played enough for me to feel confident giving out even a wrong understanding of the game

That said, the style of harrassing the economy of terrans in zvt doesn't work because of mules, while harassing production lines of terrans is game winning. Yes, if you were to keep emptying mineral lines it would pay off, but the style almost never pays off because outside of maybe drg there just isn't anyone with the mechanics to keep it up for enough time to pay off.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
March 15 2014 18:58 GMT
#4202
twitch lagging real bad on my end. Anyone else?
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
wrier
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada291 Posts
March 15 2014 18:58 GMT
#4203
If we have a Polt v Taeja finals I'll be so happy.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-15 18:59:21
March 15 2014 18:58 GMT
#4204
[image loading]

[image loading]

I'll take those sweaters over this stuff any day.
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
March 15 2014 18:59 GMT
#4205
On March 16 2014 03:58 GumBa wrote:
twitch lagging real bad on my end. Anyone else?


Lagged for me during Life vs. Taeja but after a couple of refreshes it started working fine.
Dinotramp
Profile Joined August 2012
Nauru2871 Posts
March 15 2014 18:59 GMT
#4206
incontrol has been awful this weekend
RIP Starcraft scene in the UK. Defeated by EG money and Swedish Zergs.
jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
March 15 2014 18:59 GMT
#4207
that sexual tension...
Community Newsjjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji nshoseo.jpg
arkedos
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1426 Posts
March 15 2014 18:59 GMT
#4208
WTF are they talking :D I almost spew my warter over my keyboard :D
love esports - hate homophobia
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 15 2014 18:59 GMT
#4209
On March 16 2014 03:59 Dinotramp wrote:
incontrol has been awful this weekend

I think he's been pretty on point.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
March 15 2014 18:59 GMT
#4210
Hero should win this considering how polt played last game
maru lover forever
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 15 2014 18:59 GMT
#4211
On March 16 2014 03:58 ThomasjServo wrote:
[image loading]

[image loading]

I'll take those sweaters over this stuff any day.

ahahah
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
March 15 2014 18:59 GMT
#4212
On March 16 2014 03:59 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 03:59 Dinotramp wrote:
incontrol has been awful this weekend

I think he's been pretty on point.


He's been great indeed
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
ArTiFaKs
Profile Joined September 2013
United States1229 Posts
March 15 2014 19:00 GMT
#4213
Oh no the Artosis curse
There are things known, and things unknown, and in-between are the doors.
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
March 15 2014 19:00 GMT
#4214
If someone told me herO was MMA's little brother I would believe them
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
March 15 2014 19:00 GMT
#4215
On March 16 2014 03:59 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 03:58 ThomasjServo wrote:
[image loading]

[image loading]

I'll take those sweaters over this stuff any day.

ahahah


The second picture looks like he could be working for MondoBurger in the movie Good Burger.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
March 15 2014 19:00 GMT
#4216
On March 16 2014 03:59 Incognoto wrote:
Hero should win this considering how polt played last game

I dont see it tbh
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 15 2014 19:01 GMT
#4217
On March 16 2014 03:59 liberate71 wrote:
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On March 16 2014 03:59 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 16 2014 03:59 Dinotramp wrote:
incontrol has been awful this weekend

I think he's been pretty on point.


He's been great indeed

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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
March 15 2014 19:01 GMT
#4218
On March 16 2014 04:00 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 03:59 Incognoto wrote:
Hero should win this considering how polt played last game

I dont see it tbh

Well, I could be wrong.
maru lover forever
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
March 15 2014 19:01 GMT
#4219
On March 16 2014 03:58 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 03:52 BigFan wrote:
On March 16 2014 03:45 bo1b wrote:
On March 16 2014 03:42 BigFan wrote:
On March 16 2014 03:41 bo1b wrote:
Honestly that was incredibly dissapointing from life, his micro was back in shape but he kept making such silly decisions over and over, we saw the constant run by metagame like 3/4 months ago, and it never worked there so I don't know why he's trying it now.

Undermaking banelings, suiciding banelings, not making mutas for no real reason (when muta/ling/bling is almost indisputably the best comp until ultra/infestor comes out and even then it's pretty fucking good). Ugh, really disappointing to see him get a pretty sizable lead every game then throw it away. Should have been a 3:0 tbh

it's his style so you can't ask him to change that.

I can ask him to run by into targets that are actually worth hitting, like production though. Honestly his style is self defeating

He did some pretty good damage with it. I'm not sure how familiar you are with BW but as an example: Bisu is known for his use of dts and corsairs. Even after his opponent know his style and adapt to it(spores+hydras to defend), they will eventually suffer damage with it. In starcraft, all it takes is for you to not notice a runby, drop etc... and you can lose quite a lot of infrastructure, workers and such. I blame life losing for his mistakes and less so for the runbys even if some weren't very cost efficient.

On March 16 2014 03:45 ArTiFaKs wrote:
On March 16 2014 03:42 BigFan wrote:
On March 16 2014 03:41 bo1b wrote:
Honestly that was incredibly dissapointing from life, his micro was back in shape but he kept making such silly decisions over and over, we saw the constant run by metagame like 3/4 months ago, and it never worked there so I don't know why he's trying it now.

Undermaking banelings, suiciding banelings, not making mutas for no real reason (when muta/ling/bling is almost indisputably the best comp until ultra/infestor comes out and even then it's pretty fucking good). Ugh, really disappointing to see him get a pretty sizable lead every game then throw it away. Should have been a 3:0 tbh

it's his style so you can't ask him to change that.


Throwing away banelings for SCVs is the dumbest "style" you can ever have. He will never beat a decent Terran if he keeps doing that. Everyone has basically figured out that the more muta heavy compositions are x10 better than the heavy ling style. 35 Mutas is way more of a threat than 80 lings that can die in 5 seconds. And he was consistently banking like 3k gas all game he could've easily cut back on the lings and made more banelings/mutas/bases in general. Just my opinion anyways and I think the recent ZvT's have shown that's true.

I wasn't actually commenting on the banelings aspect but more so on the constant ling runbys. He's been doing it since he came onto the scene(or at least GSL and other tourneys) so I don't see why he should stop. In those games, the runbys did a lot of damage. I think Taeja needs to be given a lot of credit for minimizing the damage and if it wasn't for life detonating his banes in games 1 and 2, then this could've been his series..

I've actually watched quite a lot of broodwar, though I haven't played enough for me to feel confident giving out even a wrong understanding of the game

That said, the style of harrassing the economy of terrans in zvt doesn't work because of mules, while harassing production lines of terrans is game winning. Yes, if you were to keep emptying mineral lines it would pay off, but the style almost never pays off because outside of maybe drg there just isn't anyone with the mechanics to keep it up for enough time to pay off.

did you end up watching SSL9 finals today? it was sick. Bisu vs hero, PvZ. If you plan to watch, don't look at this gif below:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Anyways, I think production is also a good idea but does life know that? lol
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 15 2014 19:01 GMT
#4220
On March 16 2014 04:00 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 03:59 bo1b wrote:
On March 16 2014 03:58 ThomasjServo wrote:
[image loading]

[image loading]

I'll take those sweaters over this stuff any day.

ahahah


The second picture looks like he could be working for MondoBurger in the movie Good Burger.

Looks like he's on set for the 1970s star trek movie
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