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Going to be tough, i'm still not sold on DeParture and KassiA even though i didnt watched to many of their games. Life seems to be not playing so well so MKP might be able to get a win, and Creator vs Squirtle could go either way.
I really hope the zerg can get some points otherwise i dont think Prime can get the win.
because prime has pretty good player retention? compared to most other teams, their a-teamers don't leave often - polt, bboong, maru? you need like dirty airplane money to lure prime's big names away.
On February 28 2014 20:00 opterown wrote: because prime has pretty good player retention? compared to most other teams, their a-teamers don't leave often - polt, bboong, maru? you need like dirty airplane money to lure prime's big names away.
Didnt Polt leave over a dispute or something? I am not sure though
On February 28 2014 20:22 opterown wrote: there were rumours about hongun and movie tickets but iirc they were never substantiated?
Yeah something like that. In stream chat he said something along the sorts hongun wouldnt pay him back then Polt was getting abit mad then he had an argue ent woth Gerrard over it and he left if I can recall it correctly
On February 28 2014 20:00 opterown wrote: because prime has pretty good player retention? compared to most other teams, their a-teamers don't leave often - polt, bboong, maru? you need like dirty airplane money to lure prime's big names away.
On February 28 2014 20:00 opterown wrote: because prime has pretty good player retention? compared to most other teams, their a-teamers don't leave often - polt, bboong, maru? you need like dirty airplane money to lure prime's big names away.
On February 28 2014 20:00 opterown wrote: because prime has pretty good player retention? compared to most other teams, their a-teamers don't leave often - polt, bboong, maru? you need like dirty airplane money to lure prime's big names away.
Didnt Polt leave over a dispute or something? I am not sure though
Polt left because he lent HongUn money to buy a movie ticket or something when they went out with MarineKing, but HongUn didn't pay him back (he probably thought the money was gifted or something). The coach sided with HongUn so Polt decided to leave, or so the story goes (it was a screenshot from Polt stream chat, but I don't even remember the thread).
On February 28 2014 20:00 opterown wrote: because prime has pretty good player retention? compared to most other teams, their a-teamers don't leave often - polt, bboong, maru? you need like dirty airplane money to lure prime's big names away.
Didnt Polt leave over a dispute or something? I am not sure though
Polt left because he lent HongUn money to buy a movie ticket or something when they went out with MarineKing, but HongUn didn't pay him back (he probably thought the money was gifted or something). The coach sided with HongUn so Polt decided to leave, or so the story goes (it was a screenshot from Polt stream chat, but I don't even remember the thread).
On February 28 2014 20:00 opterown wrote: because prime has pretty good player retention? compared to most other teams, their a-teamers don't leave often - polt, bboong, maru? you need like dirty airplane money to lure prime's big names away.
Didnt Polt leave over a dispute or something? I am not sure though
Polt left because he lent HongUn money to buy a movie ticket or something when they went out with MarineKing, but HongUn didn't pay him back (he probably thought the money was gifted or something). The coach sided with HongUn so Polt decided to leave, or so the story goes (it was a screenshot from Polt stream chat, but I don't even remember the thread).
Hongun deserves his spot in Injustice League.
I don't think it was ever confirmed and I hear rumours the screenshot was fake/made up
On March 02 2014 08:07 The_Templar wrote: MarineKing > Mvp
ahhahahahhah no
I'll be laughing when it happens
i believe that this result is physically impossible. even if Mvp's spine was poking out of his back and MKP was 100% focused and in his prime (pun intended), Mvp would still win.
On February 28 2014 20:00 opterown wrote: because prime has pretty good player retention? compared to most other teams, their a-teamers don't leave often - polt, bboong, maru? you need like dirty airplane money to lure prime's big names away.
Didnt Polt leave over a dispute or something? I am not sure though
Polt left because he lent HongUn money to buy a movie ticket or something when they went out with MarineKing, but HongUn didn't pay him back (he probably thought the money was gifted or something). The coach sided with HongUn so Polt decided to leave, or so the story goes (it was a screenshot from Polt stream chat, but I don't even remember the thread).
Hongun deserves his spot in Injustice League.
I don't think it was ever confirmed and I hear rumours the screenshot was fake/made up
Still deserved for coming months out of retirement to knock out MMA in the final round of Code B with 2 blink stalker all-ins.
Double voted Prime. I get off work 30 after the start of the match. Think I have a good chance of making it for MKP's game? Does Proleauge usually have some filler time at the start?
On March 02 2014 16:03 Orcasgt24 wrote: Double voted Prime. I get off work 30 after the start of the match. Think I have a good chance of making it for MKP's game? Does Proleauge usually have some filler time at the start?
Maybe if you have a laptop or some other really short commute to a computer.
It's usually 15-20 min downtime at the start for player entrances and setup as well as caster review of the team/player scores.
ZvZ is often brief (though it is on Frost). So that's likely 5-7 min unless Byul wants to throw another 30 min+ game.
5 min max delay after that for MKP. They're usually quick between games if it isn't the ace match.
On March 02 2014 16:03 Orcasgt24 wrote: Double voted Prime. I get off work 30 after the start of the match. Think I have a good chance of making it for MKP's game? Does Proleauge usually have some filler time at the start?
Maybe if you have a laptop or some other really short commute to a computer.
It's usually 15-20 min downtime at the start for player entrances and setup as well as caster review of the team/player scores.
ZvZ is often brief (though it is on Frost). So that's likely 5-7 min unless Byul wants to throw another 30 min+ game.
5 min max delay after that for MKP. They're usually quick between games if it isn't the ace match.
Its a short walk home, about 15 minutes. So I really just need this ZvZ to last 10-15 minutes. Hopefully they both go Muta Infestor and are too scared to engage lol
A Roach Hydra mirror would probably also do the trick
On February 28 2014 20:00 opterown wrote: because prime has pretty good player retention? compared to most other teams, their a-teamers don't leave often - polt, bboong, maru? you need like dirty airplane money to lure prime's big names away.
Didnt Polt leave over a dispute or something? I am not sure though
Polt left because he lent HongUn money to buy a movie ticket or something when they went out with MarineKing, but HongUn didn't pay him back (he probably thought the money was gifted or something). The coach sided with HongUn so Polt decided to leave, or so the story goes (it was a screenshot from Polt stream chat, but I don't even remember the thread).
Wouldn't this be like 6 to 10 dollars? I'll admit, I've beefed over less... But it seems like it was endemic to polt and the coach's relationship.
Oh god.. i ddn't saw the starters... MKP vs Life ? Oh my my . At least if MKP wins i could see KessiA
I'm kind of tired today so no Live reporting for me. I like to do it but VODS now makes live reporting really meaningless so... but it's fun. Maybe i'll do it tomorrow
MKP's worse matchup has always been against zerg. He's a micro Terran, not a multitasker. I haven't seen his latest stream, but I am dubious if he can beat Life going bio.
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On March 02 2014 18:59 Destructicon wrote: The sound effects on that ceremony just made it next level, I can't stop laughing now.
As a KT fan, Flash fanboy to the extreme; That ceremony made me laugh live. It's a great one. Now combined records makes Flash 1game ahead on Flash. I hope they face again so a rivality can start
On March 02 2014 19:06 Seeker wrote: Life did not go blind pool. Maybe the English stream missed it, but Life's overlord scouted MKP's 2nd scv on the Korean stream.
Yeah i was sure of it. I watch KR stream too and scv going right of map was seen.
On March 02 2014 19:06 Seeker wrote: Life did not go blind pool. Maybe the English stream missed it, but Life's overlord scouted MKP's 2nd scv on the Korean stream.
yeah I dunno, I feel like I saw that and looked up and the pool was already halfway done. Guess I'm misremembering it.
On March 02 2014 19:06 Seeker wrote: Life did not go blind pool. Maybe the English stream missed it, but Life's overlord scouted MKP's 2nd scv on the Korean stream.
I think it was a blind pool though, because the Overlord did not turn around and scout for the Buildings, so he didn't even confirm if it was an 11/11 or a Reaper or something. And the English stream didn't miss it.
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On March 02 2014 19:06 Seeker wrote: Life did not go blind pool. Maybe the English stream missed it, but Life's overlord scouted MKP's 2nd scv on the Korean stream.
I think it was a blind pool though, because the Overlord did not turn around and scout for the Buildings, so he didn't even confirm if it was an 11/11 or a Reaper or something. And the English stream didn't miss it.
Life purposely did not send his overlord to see the barracks. It's pretty obvious MarineKing was going for a proxy build, so Life pretended not to notice anything as he threw his pool down.
On March 02 2014 19:07 Big J wrote: so annoying when Terrans do that... just leave for gods sake...
What i learn playing TvZ. A terran is dead ONLY when he leaves the game. Play your heart out if they still in game.
OOOHHHH HATCHERY !!!
not really. A Terran is dead when he is that far behind. There is a huge difference between having 3OCs, a factory, a starport and multiple barracks finished when you lose most of your SCVs, or if you put down your 3rd CC behind 2raxes while you lose your SCVs.
In the scenarios in which Terran "comes back", he always has a massive techadvantage.
Every time someone Proxies in PL and someone seemingly reacts perfectly I just think of the soundproofing problems players complain about... Life placed that Pool after the crowd was making noise, and even though the OL saw the 2nd scv, he didn't turn it around or anything to scout for a barracks or make sure it was just scouting.
On March 02 2014 19:12 ArTiFaKs wrote: Every time someone Proxies in PL and someone seemingly reacts perfectly I just think of the soundproofing problems players complain about... Life placed that Pool after the crowd was making noise, and even though the OL saw the 2nd scv, he didn't turn it around or anything to scout for a barracks or make sure it was just scouting.
On March 02 2014 19:12 ArTiFaKs wrote: Every time someone Proxies in PL and someone seemingly reacts perfectly I just think of the soundproofing problems players complain about... Life placed that Pool after the crowd was making noise, and even though the OL saw the 2nd scv, he didn't turn it around or anything to scout for a barracks or make sure it was just scouting.
There has only been soundproofing complaints about GOM Studio, not PL.
On March 02 2014 19:12 ArTiFaKs wrote: Every time someone Proxies in PL and someone seemingly reacts perfectly I just think of the soundproofing problems players complain about... Life placed that Pool after the crowd was making noise, and even though the OL saw the 2nd scv, he didn't turn it around or anything to scout for a barracks or make sure it was just scouting.
The scv was heading to the right side of the map. If MarineKing was trying to scout, he wouldn't need to try to be so secretive with his scv movement.
On March 02 2014 19:12 ArTiFaKs wrote: Every time someone Proxies in PL and someone seemingly reacts perfectly I just think of the soundproofing problems players complain about... Life placed that Pool after the crowd was making noise, and even though the OL saw the 2nd scv, he didn't turn it around or anything to scout for a barracks or make sure it was just scouting.
There has only been soundproofing complaints about GOM Studio, not PL.
On March 02 2014 19:12 ArTiFaKs wrote: Every time someone Proxies in PL and someone seemingly reacts perfectly I just think of the soundproofing problems players complain about... Life placed that Pool after the crowd was making noise, and even though the OL saw the 2nd scv, he didn't turn it around or anything to scout for a barracks or make sure it was just scouting.
Why would a scout go to the left of the map instead of to your base on this map ? To scout for proxy hatch ?
Wow you guys are seriously angry about that pool first?
Bluntly Life is probably one of the only zergs to go pool first. Then you take the fact that MKP just returned back and he was infamous for only going cc first or double rax and the chances of just going pool blindly is already extremely high. Then you see the overlord see the scv and he does make the pool first.
On March 02 2014 19:06 Seeker wrote: Life did not go blind pool. Maybe the English stream missed it, but Life's overlord scouted MKP's 2nd scv on the Korean stream.
I think it was a blind pool though, because the Overlord did not turn around and scout for the Buildings, so he didn't even confirm if it was an 11/11 or a Reaper or something. And the English stream didn't miss it.
Life purposely did not send his overlord to see the barracks. It's pretty obvious MarineKing was going for a proxy build, so Life pretended not to notice anything as he threw his pool down.
I think it's more like if he sends his overlord to the barracks then it'll probably die, he already knew what was coming so what's the point
On March 02 2014 19:12 ArTiFaKs wrote: Every time someone Proxies in PL and someone seemingly reacts perfectly I just think of the soundproofing problems players complain about... Life placed that Pool after the crowd was making noise, and even though the OL saw the 2nd scv, he didn't turn it around or anything to scout for a barracks or make sure it was just scouting.
The scv was heading to the right side of the map. If MarineKing was trying to scout, he wouldn't need to try to be so secretive with his scv movement.
MKP doesn't scout. If you see his SCV anywhere on the map it must be proxy :D
On March 02 2014 19:12 ArTiFaKs wrote: Every time someone Proxies in PL and someone seemingly reacts perfectly I just think of the soundproofing problems players complain about... Life placed that Pool after the crowd was making noise, and even though the OL saw the 2nd scv, he didn't turn it around or anything to scout for a barracks or make sure it was just scouting.
Why would a scout go to the left of the map instead of to your base on this map ? To scout for proxy hatch ?
I didn't see where the OL saw the scv I just saw someone post about the OL not turning or changing direction to scout for barracks, and the soundproofing was for GSL anyways so it was my mistake! chill!
On March 02 2014 19:12 ArTiFaKs wrote: Every time someone Proxies in PL and someone seemingly reacts perfectly I just think of the soundproofing problems players complain about... Life placed that Pool after the crowd was making noise, and even though the OL saw the 2nd scv, he didn't turn it around or anything to scout for a barracks or make sure it was just scouting.
The scv was heading to the right side of the map. If MarineKing was trying to scout, he wouldn't need to try to be so secretive with his scv movement.
also the timing of the scv makes it obvious (at least obvious to Life lol)
On March 02 2014 19:14 Levistus wrote: when you rush like that don't you have to put your depots at the ramp?
Yes but usually it doesn't get scouted before 2nd rax is even started so there is a lot going on at zerg natural hatch and terran has more time to make the supply depot wall. This looked super bad because it was scouted basically as fast as possible.
On March 02 2014 19:18 ZenithM wrote: Life's overlord scouting pattern seemed fairly standard. What assumption did MarineKing make to even try the proxy?
11/11 rax was good in that final against nestea... sooooo
On March 02 2014 19:14 stuchiu wrote: Wow you guys are seriously angry about that pool first?
Bluntly Life is probably one of the only zergs to go pool first. Then you take the fact that MKP just returned back and he was infamous for only going cc first or double rax and the chances of just going pool blindly is already extremely high. Then you see the overlord see the scv and he does make the pool first.
true. MKP 2rax and Life Early pool are known playstyle as well
On March 02 2014 19:12 ArTiFaKs wrote: Every time someone Proxies in PL and someone seemingly reacts perfectly I just think of the soundproofing problems players complain about... Life placed that Pool after the crowd was making noise, and even though the OL saw the 2nd scv, he didn't turn it around or anything to scout for a barracks or make sure it was just scouting.
Why would a scout go to the left of the map instead of to your base on this map ? To scout for proxy hatch ?
I didn't see where the OL saw the scv I just saw someone post about the OL not turning or changing direction to scout for barracks, and the soundproofing was for GSL anyways so it was my mistake! chill!
i dunno i watch KR stream. it was shown. English stream have not the same obs ? Maybe that's why
When will streamers learn to maximize their volume better? Low stream volume is so inconvenient and also means that you have to set your computer volume super high and then the ads destroy your ears...
On March 02 2014 19:12 ArTiFaKs wrote: Every time someone Proxies in PL and someone seemingly reacts perfectly I just think of the soundproofing problems players complain about... Life placed that Pool after the crowd was making noise, and even though the OL saw the 2nd scv, he didn't turn it around or anything to scout for a barracks or make sure it was just scouting.
Why would a scout go to the left of the map instead of to your base on this map ? To scout for proxy hatch ?
I didn't see where the OL saw the scv I just saw someone post about the OL not turning or changing direction to scout for barracks, and the soundproofing was for GSL anyways so it was my mistake! chill!
i dunno i watch KR stream. it was shown. English stream have not the same obs ? Maybe that's why
It was shown on the english stream and Wolf also noticed it and talked about it.
On March 02 2014 19:12 ArTiFaKs wrote: Every time someone Proxies in PL and someone seemingly reacts perfectly I just think of the soundproofing problems players complain about... Life placed that Pool after the crowd was making noise, and even though the OL saw the 2nd scv, he didn't turn it around or anything to scout for a barracks or make sure it was just scouting.
Why would a scout go to the left of the map instead of to your base on this map ? To scout for proxy hatch ?
I didn't see where the OL saw the scv I just saw someone post about the OL not turning or changing direction to scout for barracks, and the soundproofing was for GSL anyways so it was my mistake! chill!
i dunno i watch KR stream. it was shown. English stream have not the same obs ? Maybe that's why
On March 02 2014 19:20 Die4Ever wrote: When will streamers learn to maximize their volume better? Low stream volume is so inconvenient and also means that you have to set your computer volume super high and then the ads destroy your ears...
This so much. My headset is at maximum. Any less volume and i need an active amplifier :D.
On March 02 2014 19:12 ArTiFaKs wrote: Every time someone Proxies in PL and someone seemingly reacts perfectly I just think of the soundproofing problems players complain about... Life placed that Pool after the crowd was making noise, and even though the OL saw the 2nd scv, he didn't turn it around or anything to scout for a barracks or make sure it was just scouting.
Why would a scout go to the left of the map instead of to your base on this map ? To scout for proxy hatch ?
I didn't see where the OL saw the scv I just saw someone post about the OL not turning or changing direction to scout for barracks, and the soundproofing was for GSL anyways so it was my mistake! chill!
i dunno i watch KR stream. it was shown. English stream have not the same obs ? Maybe that's why
i think they do
Yeah i thought when i wateched english stream, wolf stated that they could control production or units tab
On March 02 2014 19:20 Die4Ever wrote: When will streamers learn to maximize their volume better? Low stream volume is so inconvenient and also means that you have to set your computer volume super high and then the ads destroy your ears...
This so much. My headset is at maximum. Any less volume and i need an active amplifier :D.
i think they do it on purpose so i have to listen to ads even when im taking a shit during a break
God damn it, I just realized I haven't even thought about who was which color. Was just blindly rooting for the purple guy because of playstyle bias... fml... Squirtle, gogogogo
On March 02 2014 19:24 robson1 wrote: lol squirtle. Bronze micro.
That's a nice hyperbole you got there
that move was bronze micro. Obviously it's not indicative of Squirtles general skill level.
Bronze don't micro. They just mass carrier mothership (and kill you because you were like : "oh this guy is bad i'm going to Qaudruple expand) :p
play against Bronze on Korean server. They actually do the builds pro players do. They execute them terribly and their decision making is awful but they have a real game-plan and understand that SC2 is not quite the same as Age of Empires
On March 02 2014 19:24 robson1 wrote: lol squirtle. Bronze micro.
That's a nice hyperbole you got there
that move was bronze micro. Obviously it's not indicative of Squirtles general skill level.
Bronze don't micro. They just mass carrier mothership (and kill you because you were like : "oh this guy is bad i'm going to Qaudruple expand) :p
play against Bronze on Korean server. They actually do the builds pro players do. They execute them terribly and their decision making is awful but they have a real game-plan and understand that SC2 is not quite the same as Age of Empires
Played two matches on KR server. Faced a Bronze terran who meched me with 250apm lol (i lost both matches :p) But i'm gold on EU so....
On March 02 2014 19:24 robson1 wrote: lol squirtle. Bronze micro.
That's a nice hyperbole you got there
that move was bronze micro. Obviously it's not indicative of Squirtles general skill level.
Bronze don't micro. They just mass carrier mothership (and kill you because you were like : "oh this guy is bad i'm going to Qaudruple expand) :p
play against Bronze on Korean server. They actually do the builds pro players do. They execute them terribly and their decision making is awful but they have a real game-plan and understand that SC2 is not quite the same as Age of Empires
On March 02 2014 19:24 robson1 wrote: lol squirtle. Bronze micro.
That's a nice hyperbole you got there
that move was bronze micro. Obviously it's not indicative of Squirtles general skill level.
Bronze don't micro. They just mass carrier mothership (and kill you because you were like : "oh this guy is bad i'm going to Qaudruple expand) :p
play against Bronze on Korean server. They actually do the builds pro players do. They execute them terribly and their decision making is awful but they have a real game-plan and understand that SC2 is not quite the same as Age of Empires
On March 02 2014 19:24 robson1 wrote: lol squirtle. Bronze micro.
That's a nice hyperbole you got there
that move was bronze micro. Obviously it's not indicative of Squirtles general skill level.
Bronze don't micro. They just mass carrier mothership (and kill you because you were like : "oh this guy is bad i'm going to Qaudruple expand) :p
play against Bronze on Korean server. They actually do the builds pro players do. They execute them terribly and their decision making is awful but they have a real game-plan and understand that SC2 is not quite the same as Age of Empires
So basically KR bronze is AM/EU GM?
To give a serious answer for once: I'd say more like gold-league on EU/AM. Maybe Platin.
On March 02 2014 19:24 robson1 wrote: lol squirtle. Bronze micro.
That's a nice hyperbole you got there
that move was bronze micro. Obviously it's not indicative of Squirtles general skill level.
Bronze don't micro. They just mass carrier mothership (and kill you because you were like : "oh this guy is bad i'm going to Qaudruple expand) :p
play against Bronze on Korean server. They actually do the builds pro players do. They execute them terribly and their decision making is awful but they have a real game-plan and understand that SC2 is not quite the same as Age of Empires
So basically KR bronze is AM/EU GM?
To give a serious answer for once: I'd say more like gold-league on EU/AM. Maybe Platin.
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On March 02 2014 19:24 robson1 wrote: lol squirtle. Bronze micro.
That's a nice hyperbole you got there
that move was bronze micro. Obviously it's not indicative of Squirtles general skill level.
Bronze don't micro. They just mass carrier mothership (and kill you because you were like : "oh this guy is bad i'm going to Qaudruple expand) :p
play against Bronze on Korean server. They actually do the builds pro players do. They execute them terribly and their decision making is awful but they have a real game-plan and understand that SC2 is not quite the same as Age of Empires
So basically KR bronze is AM/EU GM?
To give a serious answer for once: I'd say more like gold-league on EU/AM. Maybe Platin.
Just puts it into perspective how bad we really are
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On March 02 2014 19:24 robson1 wrote: lol squirtle. Bronze micro.
That's a nice hyperbole you got there
that move was bronze micro. Obviously it's not indicative of Squirtles general skill level.
Bronze don't micro. They just mass carrier mothership (and kill you because you were like : "oh this guy is bad i'm going to Qaudruple expand) :p
play against Bronze on Korean server. They actually do the builds pro players do. They execute them terribly and their decision making is awful but they have a real game-plan and understand that SC2 is not quite the same as Age of Empires
So basically KR bronze is AM/EU GM?
To give a serious answer for once: I'd say more like gold-league on EU/AM. Maybe Platin.
That is a big exaggeration. KR is probably strongest in GM and master but people overestimate their lower league players way too much.
On March 02 2014 19:24 robson1 wrote: lol squirtle. Bronze micro.
That's a nice hyperbole you got there
that move was bronze micro. Obviously it's not indicative of Squirtles general skill level.
Bronze don't micro. They just mass carrier mothership (and kill you because you were like : "oh this guy is bad i'm going to Qaudruple expand) :p
play against Bronze on Korean server. They actually do the builds pro players do. They execute them terribly and their decision making is awful but they have a real game-plan and understand that SC2 is not quite the same as Age of Empires
So basically KR bronze is AM/EU GM?
To give a serious answer for once: I'd say more like gold-league on EU/AM. Maybe Platin.
Just puts it into perspective how good they really are
On March 02 2014 19:24 robson1 wrote: lol squirtle. Bronze micro.
That's a nice hyperbole you got there
that move was bronze micro. Obviously it's not indicative of Squirtles general skill level.
Bronze don't micro. They just mass carrier mothership (and kill you because you were like : "oh this guy is bad i'm going to Qaudruple expand) :p
play against Bronze on Korean server. They actually do the builds pro players do. They execute them terribly and their decision making is awful but they have a real game-plan and understand that SC2 is not quite the same as Age of Empires
So basically KR bronze is AM/EU GM?
To give a serious answer for once: I'd say more like gold-league on EU/AM. Maybe Platin.
Just puts it into perspective how bad we really are
You could see it as a way to confirm how good the high level players are but oh well.
On March 02 2014 19:24 robson1 wrote: lol squirtle. Bronze micro.
That's a nice hyperbole you got there
that move was bronze micro. Obviously it's not indicative of Squirtles general skill level.
Bronze don't micro. They just mass carrier mothership (and kill you because you were like : "oh this guy is bad i'm going to Qaudruple expand) :p
play against Bronze on Korean server. They actually do the builds pro players do. They execute them terribly and their decision making is awful but they have a real game-plan and understand that SC2 is not quite the same as Age of Empires
So basically KR bronze is AM/EU GM?
To give a serious answer for once: I'd say more like gold-league on EU/AM. Maybe Platin.
That is a big exaggeration. KR is probably strongest in GM and master but people overestimate their lower league players way too much.
About 10 rungs of difference. Like if you were Top 3 in your Masters NA division, you would be about 13 Masters KR.
*This goes all the way down at least in DIA and Plat anyway.
On March 02 2014 19:24 robson1 wrote: lol squirtle. Bronze micro.
That's a nice hyperbole you got there
that move was bronze micro. Obviously it's not indicative of Squirtles general skill level.
Bronze don't micro. They just mass carrier mothership (and kill you because you were like : "oh this guy is bad i'm going to Qaudruple expand) :p
play against Bronze on Korean server. They actually do the builds pro players do. They execute them terribly and their decision making is awful but they have a real game-plan and understand that SC2 is not quite the same as Age of Empires
So basically KR bronze is AM/EU GM?
To give a serious answer for once: I'd say more like gold-league on EU/AM. Maybe Platin.
Just puts it into perspective how bad we really are
You could see it as a way to confirm how good the high level players are but oh well.
Also korean low leaguer are not really better than eu... They rage even more ahah... im master on eu and master in KR, nothing changes much before plat/diam master league in KR is harder tho.
On March 02 2014 19:35 opterown wrote: very low chance but if kassia can take this, creator should be able to beat the IM ace
Creator PvZ did not look good. He is 5-1 in PvP but in PL, but his other Matchups are not impressive at all actually.
eh he beat life 5-1 and DRG as ace it's something
He'd need to beat the God Curious or I guess Byul.
The thing is now IM could throw any player. They have so much players right now. They could go for ace snipers no ? Kind of risky in the non Allkill format but well... They have the numbers
On March 02 2014 19:37 FFW_Rude wrote: MVP, Life, Nestea. On screen at the same time. I'm drooling
why are people still obsessed with MVP and Nestea? I mean, I wish them all the best but both of them are confirmed Code B level. MVP sometimes shows his willpower and takes a game of someone who is 3 times as fast, but Nestea is barely good enough to beat up mid tier foreigners right now.
On March 02 2014 19:37 FFW_Rude wrote: MVP, Life, Nestea. On screen at the same time. I'm drooling
why are people still obsessed with MVP and Nestea? I mean, I wish them all the best but both of them are confirmed Code B level. MVP sometimes shows his willpower and takes a game of someone who is 3 times as fast, but Nestea is barely good enough to beat up mid tier foreigners right now.
Why people still obsessed about Boxer, Nada or Oov ?
Squirtle didn't need to attack right there... He committed a lot to taking out the Nexus and Creator kept almost every Immortal he had alive, which was huge because Squirtle only had like 2-4 left. Man.. Creator just destroying my Anti because all he ever gets are PvP's where if you attack it's so much harder to win, which fits Creator's style so well.
On March 02 2014 19:35 opterown wrote: very low chance but if kassia can take this, creator should be able to beat the IM ace
Creator PvZ did not look good. He is 5-1 in PvP but in PL, but his other Matchups are not impressive at all actually.
eh he beat life 5-1 and DRG as ace it's something
He'd need to beat the God Curious or I guess Byul.
The thing is now IM could throw any player. They have so much players right now. They could go for ace snipers no ? Kind of risky in the non Allkill format but well... They have the numbers
Curious just took Stats head and smashed it into the doorway along the way to ro16. I think his ZvP is good right now.
On March 02 2014 19:24 robson1 wrote: lol squirtle. Bronze micro.
That's a nice hyperbole you got there
that move was bronze micro. Obviously it's not indicative of Squirtles general skill level.
Bronze don't micro. They just mass carrier mothership (and kill you because you were like : "oh this guy is bad i'm going to Qaudruple expand) :p
play against Bronze on Korean server. They actually do the builds pro players do. They execute them terribly and their decision making is awful but they have a real game-plan and understand that SC2 is not quite the same as Age of Empires
So basically KR bronze is AM/EU GM?
To give a serious answer for once: I'd say more like gold-league on EU/AM. Maybe Platin.
That is a big exaggeration. KR is probably strongest in GM and master but people overestimate their lower league players way too much.
maybe I'm slightly off but I don't think by much. When I last played on NA and went from placement matches to Master I didn't hit any players who knew what they were doing until at least Gold league. Players who just build stuff for the sake of it, no actual game-plan involved.
On Korea my first game against a Bronze-league player I won easily but he actually executed a marine-hellion-medivac play pretty well with good timing and everything. He knew what he was doing, he had a gameplan and a build order and practiced to execute it. He couldn't keep up after that though
That's a huge difference, not only in mechanics but mostly in the thinking involved
On March 02 2014 19:37 FFW_Rude wrote: MVP, Life, Nestea. On screen at the same time. I'm drooling
why are people still obsessed with MVP and Nestea? I mean, I wish them all the best but both of them are confirmed Code B level. MVP sometimes shows his willpower and takes a game of someone who is 3 times as fast, but Nestea is barely good enough to beat up mid tier foreigners right now.
Why people still obsessed about Boxer, Nada or Oov ?
Even fanta (coming from a fanta fan). He's a scrub .
On March 02 2014 19:37 FFW_Rude wrote: MVP, Life, Nestea. On screen at the same time. I'm drooling
why are people still obsessed with MVP and Nestea? I mean, I wish them all the best but both of them are confirmed Code B level. MVP sometimes shows his willpower and takes a game of someone who is 3 times as fast, but Nestea is barely good enough to beat up mid tier foreigners right now.
Why people still obsessed about Boxer, Nada or Oov ?
This. Same as how people still go on about old sportsmen who were epic.
Just because they aren't much good now doesn't mean you can't admire their past successes.
On March 02 2014 19:37 FFW_Rude wrote: MVP, Life, Nestea. On screen at the same time. I'm drooling
why are people still obsessed with MVP and Nestea? I mean, I wish them all the best but both of them are confirmed Code B level. MVP sometimes shows his willpower and takes a game of someone who is 3 times as fast, but Nestea is barely good enough to beat up mid tier foreigners right now.
Why people still obsessed about Boxer, Nada or Oov ?
Cause these guys make even men squeal and get wet like girls
On March 02 2014 19:37 FFW_Rude wrote: MVP, Life, Nestea. On screen at the same time. I'm drooling
why are people still obsessed with MVP and Nestea? I mean, I wish them all the best but both of them are confirmed Code B level. MVP sometimes shows his willpower and takes a game of someone who is 3 times as fast, but Nestea is barely good enough to beat up mid tier foreigners right now.
Innovation and Flash are also "Code B level." Btw. no of these current top tier pros didn't even come close to Mvp's results so far. So yeah, you can admire a legend even if he is not in his prime anymore, that doesn't make his results go away.
On March 02 2014 19:37 FFW_Rude wrote: MVP, Life, Nestea. On screen at the same time. I'm drooling
why are people still obsessed with MVP and Nestea? I mean, I wish them all the best but both of them are confirmed Code B level. MVP sometimes shows his willpower and takes a game of someone who is 3 times as fast, but Nestea is barely good enough to beat up mid tier foreigners right now.
Why people still obsessed about Boxer, Nada or Oov ?
Even fanta (coming from a fanta fan). He's a scrub .
Watch his two PL matches if you haven't. Fanta produced great games.
On March 02 2014 19:37 FFW_Rude wrote: MVP, Life, Nestea. On screen at the same time. I'm drooling
why are people still obsessed with MVP and Nestea? I mean, I wish them all the best but both of them are confirmed Code B level. MVP sometimes shows his willpower and takes a game of someone who is 3 times as fast, but Nestea is barely good enough to beat up mid tier foreigners right now.
This dude Mvp, i heard is playing with 400 apm permanently so i'm scared to see who is 3x faster.
On March 02 2014 19:24 robson1 wrote: lol squirtle. Bronze micro.
That's a nice hyperbole you got there
that move was bronze micro. Obviously it's not indicative of Squirtles general skill level.
Bronze don't micro. They just mass carrier mothership (and kill you because you were like : "oh this guy is bad i'm going to Qaudruple expand) :p
play against Bronze on Korean server. They actually do the builds pro players do. They execute them terribly and their decision making is awful but they have a real game-plan and understand that SC2 is not quite the same as Age of Empires
So basically KR bronze is AM/EU GM?
To give a serious answer for once: I'd say more like gold-league on EU/AM. Maybe Platin.
That is a big exaggeration. KR is probably strongest in GM and master but people overestimate their lower league players way too much.
maybe I'm slightly off but I don't think by much. When I last played on NA and went from placement matches to Master I didn't hit any players who knew what they were doing until at least Gold league. Players who just build stuff for the sake of it, no actual game-plan involved.
On Korea my first game against a Bronze-league player I won easily but he actually executed a marine-hellion-medivac play pretty well with good timing and everything. He knew what he was doing, he had a gameplan and a build order and practiced to execute it.
That's a huge difference, not only in mechanics but mostly in the thinking involved
I've played on all 3 servers. KR players are better all across the board, even in the lower leagues.
*Its not like an actual league of difference, but if you started two accounts on EU and KR, you'll hit a wall faster on KR.
On March 02 2014 19:37 FFW_Rude wrote: MVP, Life, Nestea. On screen at the same time. I'm drooling
why are people still obsessed with MVP and Nestea? I mean, I wish them all the best but both of them are confirmed Code B level. MVP sometimes shows his willpower and takes a game of someone who is 3 times as fast, but Nestea is barely good enough to beat up mid tier foreigners right now.
Why people still obsessed about Boxer, Nada or Oov ?
Boxer because he's the Creator of Korean E-sports Nada because he is sexy Oov because he is the best terran coach of all time.
On March 02 2014 19:37 FFW_Rude wrote: MVP, Life, Nestea. On screen at the same time. I'm drooling
why are people still obsessed with MVP and Nestea? I mean, I wish them all the best but both of them are confirmed Code B level. MVP sometimes shows his willpower and takes a game of someone who is 3 times as fast, but Nestea is barely good enough to beat up mid tier foreigners right now.
Why people still obsessed about Boxer, Nada or Oov ?
Even fanta (coming from a fanta fan). He's a scrub .
Watch his two PL matches if you haven't. Fanta produced great games.
He did but its gotta last before i'm convinced. And some individual league performances.
On March 02 2014 19:37 FFW_Rude wrote: MVP, Life, Nestea. On screen at the same time. I'm drooling
why are people still obsessed with MVP and Nestea? I mean, I wish them all the best but both of them are confirmed Code B level. MVP sometimes shows his willpower and takes a game of someone who is 3 times as fast, but Nestea is barely good enough to beat up mid tier foreigners right now.
Why people still obsessed about Boxer, Nada or Oov ?
Cause these guys make even men squeal and get wet like girls
On March 02 2014 19:37 FFW_Rude wrote: MVP, Life, Nestea. On screen at the same time. I'm drooling
why are people still obsessed with MVP and Nestea? I mean, I wish them all the best but both of them are confirmed Code B level. MVP sometimes shows his willpower and takes a game of someone who is 3 times as fast, but Nestea is barely good enough to beat up mid tier foreigners right now.
On March 02 2014 19:37 FFW_Rude wrote: MVP, Life, Nestea. On screen at the same time. I'm drooling
why are people still obsessed with MVP and Nestea? I mean, I wish them all the best but both of them are confirmed Code B level. MVP sometimes shows his willpower and takes a game of someone who is 3 times as fast, but Nestea is barely good enough to beat up mid tier foreigners right now.
Why people still obsessed about Boxer, Nada or Oov ?
Boxer because he's the Creator of Korean E-sports Nada because he is sexy Oov because he is the best terran coach of all time.
So yeah, a similar reason then. Legends of their game
On March 02 2014 19:24 robson1 wrote: lol squirtle. Bronze micro.
That's a nice hyperbole you got there
that move was bronze micro. Obviously it's not indicative of Squirtles general skill level.
Bronze don't micro. They just mass carrier mothership (and kill you because you were like : "oh this guy is bad i'm going to Qaudruple expand) :p
play against Bronze on Korean server. They actually do the builds pro players do. They execute them terribly and their decision making is awful but they have a real game-plan and understand that SC2 is not quite the same as Age of Empires
So basically KR bronze is AM/EU GM?
To give a serious answer for once: I'd say more like gold-league on EU/AM. Maybe Platin.
That is a big exaggeration. KR is probably strongest in GM and master but people overestimate their lower league players way too much.
maybe I'm slightly off but I don't think by much. When I last played on NA and went from placement matches to Master I didn't hit any players who knew what they were doing until at least Gold league. Players who just build stuff for the sake of it, no actual game-plan involved.
On Korea my first game against a Bronze-league player I won easily but he actually executed a marine-hellion-medivac play pretty well with good timing and everything. He knew what he was doing, he had a gameplan and a build order and practiced to execute it. He couldn't keep up after that though
That's a huge difference, not only in mechanics but mostly in the thinking involved
Starcraft is just so ingrained into their culture they just go about it differently. We play a game. They live a lifestyle
On March 02 2014 19:37 FFW_Rude wrote: MVP, Life, Nestea. On screen at the same time. I'm drooling
why are people still obsessed with MVP and Nestea? I mean, I wish them all the best but both of them are confirmed Code B level. MVP sometimes shows his willpower and takes a game of someone who is 3 times as fast, but Nestea is barely good enough to beat up mid tier foreigners right now.
On March 02 2014 19:37 FFW_Rude wrote: MVP, Life, Nestea. On screen at the same time. I'm drooling
why are people still obsessed with MVP and Nestea? I mean, I wish them all the best but both of them are confirmed Code B level. MVP sometimes shows his willpower and takes a game of someone who is 3 times as fast, but Nestea is barely good enough to beat up mid tier foreigners right now.
Why people still obsessed about Boxer, Nada or Oov ?
Boxer because he's the Creator of Korean E-sports Nada because he is sexy Oov because he is the best terran coach of all time.
MVP because he was the best player in WOL. One a GSL with destroyed wrists Nestea because he dominated WoL as Zerg for a long time and had a 100% winrate in ZvZ.
In my limited experience playing on the Korean server, I agree with the sentiment that there are very few true "Bronzies" (at least using the mentality defined by Gheed).
On March 02 2014 19:24 robson1 wrote: lol squirtle. Bronze micro.
That's a nice hyperbole you got there
that move was bronze micro. Obviously it's not indicative of Squirtles general skill level.
Bronze don't micro. They just mass carrier mothership (and kill you because you were like : "oh this guy is bad i'm going to Qaudruple expand) :p
play against Bronze on Korean server. They actually do the builds pro players do. They execute them terribly and their decision making is awful but they have a real game-plan and understand that SC2 is not quite the same as Age of Empires
So basically KR bronze is AM/EU GM?
To give a serious answer for once: I'd say more like gold-league on EU/AM. Maybe Platin.
That is a big exaggeration. KR is probably strongest in GM and master but people overestimate their lower league players way too much.
maybe I'm slightly off but I don't think by much. When I last played on NA and went from placement matches to Master I didn't hit any players who knew what they were doing until at least Gold league. Players who just build stuff for the sake of it, no actual game-plan involved.
On Korea my first game against a Bronze-league player I won easily but he actually executed a marine-hellion-medivac play pretty well with good timing and everything. He knew what he was doing, he had a gameplan and a build order and practiced to execute it. He couldn't keep up after that though
That's a huge difference, not only in mechanics but mostly in the thinking involved
Starcraft is just so ingrained into their culture they just go about it differently. We play a game. They live a lifestyle
Yeah. It's kind of awesome when you watch "The genius" and see guys that are 40+ 50+ year old know who is Yellow or Boxer. No one in my country would know any famous player even Elky is just unknown
On March 02 2014 19:26 Zealously wrote: [quote] That's a nice hyperbole you got there
that move was bronze micro. Obviously it's not indicative of Squirtles general skill level.
Bronze don't micro. They just mass carrier mothership (and kill you because you were like : "oh this guy is bad i'm going to Qaudruple expand) :p
play against Bronze on Korean server. They actually do the builds pro players do. They execute them terribly and their decision making is awful but they have a real game-plan and understand that SC2 is not quite the same as Age of Empires
So basically KR bronze is AM/EU GM?
To give a serious answer for once: I'd say more like gold-league on EU/AM. Maybe Platin.
That is a big exaggeration. KR is probably strongest in GM and master but people overestimate their lower league players way too much.
maybe I'm slightly off but I don't think by much. When I last played on NA and went from placement matches to Master I didn't hit any players who knew what they were doing until at least Gold league. Players who just build stuff for the sake of it, no actual game-plan involved.
On Korea my first game against a Bronze-league player I won easily but he actually executed a marine-hellion-medivac play pretty well with good timing and everything. He knew what he was doing, he had a gameplan and a build order and practiced to execute it. He couldn't keep up after that though
That's a huge difference, not only in mechanics but mostly in the thinking involved
Starcraft is just so ingrained into their culture they just go about it differently. We play a game. They live a lifestyle
Yeah. It's kind of awesome when you watch "The genius" and see guys that are 40+ 50+ year old know who is Yellow or Boxer. No one in my country would know any famous player even Elky is just unknown
how many late teens/early 20s do you think know stephano?
that move was bronze micro. Obviously it's not indicative of Squirtles general skill level.
Bronze don't micro. They just mass carrier mothership (and kill you because you were like : "oh this guy is bad i'm going to Qaudruple expand) :p
play against Bronze on Korean server. They actually do the builds pro players do. They execute them terribly and their decision making is awful but they have a real game-plan and understand that SC2 is not quite the same as Age of Empires
So basically KR bronze is AM/EU GM?
To give a serious answer for once: I'd say more like gold-league on EU/AM. Maybe Platin.
That is a big exaggeration. KR is probably strongest in GM and master but people overestimate their lower league players way too much.
maybe I'm slightly off but I don't think by much. When I last played on NA and went from placement matches to Master I didn't hit any players who knew what they were doing until at least Gold league. Players who just build stuff for the sake of it, no actual game-plan involved.
On Korea my first game against a Bronze-league player I won easily but he actually executed a marine-hellion-medivac play pretty well with good timing and everything. He knew what he was doing, he had a gameplan and a build order and practiced to execute it. He couldn't keep up after that though
That's a huge difference, not only in mechanics but mostly in the thinking involved
Starcraft is just so ingrained into their culture they just go about it differently. We play a game. They live a lifestyle
Yeah. It's kind of awesome when you watch "The genius" and see guys that are 40+ 50+ year old know who is Yellow or Boxer. No one in my country would know any famous player even Elky is just unknown
how many late teens/early 20s do you think know stephano?
that move was bronze micro. Obviously it's not indicative of Squirtles general skill level.
Bronze don't micro. They just mass carrier mothership (and kill you because you were like : "oh this guy is bad i'm going to Qaudruple expand) :p
play against Bronze on Korean server. They actually do the builds pro players do. They execute them terribly and their decision making is awful but they have a real game-plan and understand that SC2 is not quite the same as Age of Empires
So basically KR bronze is AM/EU GM?
For non SC WATCHERS ? about 0.001% To give a serious answer for once: I'd say more like gold-league on EU/AM. Maybe Platin.
That is a big exaggeration. KR is probably strongest in GM and master but people overestimate their lower league players way too much.
maybe I'm slightly off but I don't think by much. When I last played on NA and went from placement matches to Master I didn't hit any players who knew what they were doing until at least Gold league. Players who just build stuff for the sake of it, no actual game-plan involved.
On Korea my first game against a Bronze-league player I won easily but he actually executed a marine-hellion-medivac play pretty well with good timing and everything. He knew what he was doing, he had a gameplan and a build order and practiced to execute it. He couldn't keep up after that though
That's a huge difference, not only in mechanics but mostly in the thinking involved
Starcraft is just so ingrained into their culture they just go about it differently. We play a game. They live a lifestyle
Yeah. It's kind of awesome when you watch "The genius" and see guys that are 40+ 50+ year old know who is Yellow or Boxer. No one in my country would know any famous player even Elky is just unknown
how many late teens/early 20s do you think know stephano?
uh ? My message wasn't published.
My answer was : If you don't count SC players/watchers. About none.
On March 02 2014 19:26 Zealously wrote: [quote] That's a nice hyperbole you got there
that move was bronze micro. Obviously it's not indicative of Squirtles general skill level.
Bronze don't micro. They just mass carrier mothership (and kill you because you were like : "oh this guy is bad i'm going to Qaudruple expand) :p
play against Bronze on Korean server. They actually do the builds pro players do. They execute them terribly and their decision making is awful but they have a real game-plan and understand that SC2 is not quite the same as Age of Empires
So basically KR bronze is AM/EU GM?
To give a serious answer for once: I'd say more like gold-league on EU/AM. Maybe Platin.
That is a big exaggeration. KR is probably strongest in GM and master but people overestimate their lower league players way too much.
maybe I'm slightly off but I don't think by much. When I last played on NA and went from placement matches to Master I didn't hit any players who knew what they were doing until at least Gold league. Players who just build stuff for the sake of it, no actual game-plan involved.
On Korea my first game against a Bronze-league player I won easily but he actually executed a marine-hellion-medivac play pretty well with good timing and everything. He knew what he was doing, he had a gameplan and a build order and practiced to execute it. He couldn't keep up after that though
That's a huge difference, not only in mechanics but mostly in the thinking involved
Starcraft is just so ingrained into their culture they just go about it differently. We play a game. They live a lifestyle
Yeah. It's kind of awesome when you watch "The genius" and see guys that are 40+ 50+ year old know who is Yellow or Boxer. No one in my country would know any famous player even Elky is just unknown
On March 02 2014 19:37 FFW_Rude wrote: MVP, Life, Nestea. On screen at the same time. I'm drooling
why are people still obsessed with MVP and Nestea? I mean, I wish them all the best but both of them are confirmed Code B level. MVP sometimes shows his willpower and takes a game of someone who is 3 times as fast, but Nestea is barely good enough to beat up mid tier foreigners right now.
that move was bronze micro. Obviously it's not indicative of Squirtles general skill level.
Bronze don't micro. They just mass carrier mothership (and kill you because you were like : "oh this guy is bad i'm going to Qaudruple expand) :p
play against Bronze on Korean server. They actually do the builds pro players do. They execute them terribly and their decision making is awful but they have a real game-plan and understand that SC2 is not quite the same as Age of Empires
So basically KR bronze is AM/EU GM?
To give a serious answer for once: I'd say more like gold-league on EU/AM. Maybe Platin.
That is a big exaggeration. KR is probably strongest in GM and master but people overestimate their lower league players way too much.
maybe I'm slightly off but I don't think by much. When I last played on NA and went from placement matches to Master I didn't hit any players who knew what they were doing until at least Gold league. Players who just build stuff for the sake of it, no actual game-plan involved.
On Korea my first game against a Bronze-league player I won easily but he actually executed a marine-hellion-medivac play pretty well with good timing and everything. He knew what he was doing, he had a gameplan and a build order and practiced to execute it. He couldn't keep up after that though
That's a huge difference, not only in mechanics but mostly in the thinking involved
Starcraft is just so ingrained into their culture they just go about it differently. We play a game. They live a lifestyle
Yeah. It's kind of awesome when you watch "The genius" and see guys that are 40+ 50+ year old know who is Yellow or Boxer. No one in my country would know any famous player even Elky is just unknown
We live in the wrong country my friend :/
Well at least your country have talked about ESL... on national tv
On March 02 2014 19:37 FFW_Rude wrote: MVP, Life, Nestea. On screen at the same time. I'm drooling
why are people still obsessed with MVP and Nestea? I mean, I wish them all the best but both of them are confirmed Code B level. MVP sometimes shows his willpower and takes a game of someone who is 3 times as fast, but Nestea is barely good enough to beat up mid tier foreigners right now.
On March 02 2014 19:37 FFW_Rude wrote: MVP, Life, Nestea. On screen at the same time. I'm drooling
why are people still obsessed with MVP and Nestea? I mean, I wish them all the best but both of them are confirmed Code B level. MVP sometimes shows his willpower and takes a game of someone who is 3 times as fast, but Nestea is barely good enough to beat up mid tier foreigners right now.
Mvp 100% winrate in sc2 proleague
Lol. What a stat.
Don't make fun of it. That's how David Kim balances TvP. Mvp 100% winrate in PL. 66.67& Terrans passed in ro32. Balanced. Some might even say overpowered.
On March 02 2014 19:37 FFW_Rude wrote: MVP, Life, Nestea. On screen at the same time. I'm drooling
why are people still obsessed with MVP and Nestea? I mean, I wish them all the best but both of them are confirmed Code B level. MVP sometimes shows his willpower and takes a game of someone who is 3 times as fast, but Nestea is barely good enough to beat up mid tier foreigners right now.
Innovation and Flash are also "Code B level."
lol.
I don't think Flash is better than Mvp tbh
Do you have a sword ? Because i'm going to provoque you in a duel.... :p
that move was bronze micro. Obviously it's not indicative of Squirtles general skill level.
Bronze don't micro. They just mass carrier mothership (and kill you because you were like : "oh this guy is bad i'm going to Qaudruple expand) :p
play against Bronze on Korean server. They actually do the builds pro players do. They execute them terribly and their decision making is awful but they have a real game-plan and understand that SC2 is not quite the same as Age of Empires
So basically KR bronze is AM/EU GM?
To give a serious answer for once: I'd say more like gold-league on EU/AM. Maybe Platin.
That is a big exaggeration. KR is probably strongest in GM and master but people overestimate their lower league players way too much.
maybe I'm slightly off but I don't think by much. When I last played on NA and went from placement matches to Master I didn't hit any players who knew what they were doing until at least Gold league. Players who just build stuff for the sake of it, no actual game-plan involved.
On Korea my first game against a Bronze-league player I won easily but he actually executed a marine-hellion-medivac play pretty well with good timing and everything. He knew what he was doing, he had a gameplan and a build order and practiced to execute it. He couldn't keep up after that though
That's a huge difference, not only in mechanics but mostly in the thinking involved
Starcraft is just so ingrained into their culture they just go about it differently. We play a game. They live a lifestyle
Yeah. It's kind of awesome when you watch "The genius" and see guys that are 40+ 50+ year old know who is Yellow or Boxer. No one in my country would know any famous player even Elky is just unknown
We live in the wrong country my friend :/
well Germany is especially awful. Or maybe that's just my region here in the North of Germany. But nobody here knows much about SC2. People know that it exists but they only watch LoL or no Esports at all. Not even Dota or CS:GO.
Bronze don't micro. They just mass carrier mothership (and kill you because you were like : "oh this guy is bad i'm going to Qaudruple expand) :p
play against Bronze on Korean server. They actually do the builds pro players do. They execute them terribly and their decision making is awful but they have a real game-plan and understand that SC2 is not quite the same as Age of Empires
So basically KR bronze is AM/EU GM?
To give a serious answer for once: I'd say more like gold-league on EU/AM. Maybe Platin.
That is a big exaggeration. KR is probably strongest in GM and master but people overestimate their lower league players way too much.
maybe I'm slightly off but I don't think by much. When I last played on NA and went from placement matches to Master I didn't hit any players who knew what they were doing until at least Gold league. Players who just build stuff for the sake of it, no actual game-plan involved.
On Korea my first game against a Bronze-league player I won easily but he actually executed a marine-hellion-medivac play pretty well with good timing and everything. He knew what he was doing, he had a gameplan and a build order and practiced to execute it. He couldn't keep up after that though
That's a huge difference, not only in mechanics but mostly in the thinking involved
Starcraft is just so ingrained into their culture they just go about it differently. We play a game. They live a lifestyle
Yeah. It's kind of awesome when you watch "The genius" and see guys that are 40+ 50+ year old know who is Yellow or Boxer. No one in my country would know any famous player even Elky is just unknown
We live in the wrong country my friend :/
well Germany is especially awful. Or maybe that's just my region here in the North of Germany. But nobody here knows much about SC2. People know that it exists but they only watch LoL or no Esports at all. Not even Dota or CS:GO.
Bronze don't micro. They just mass carrier mothership (and kill you because you were like : "oh this guy is bad i'm going to Qaudruple expand) :p
play against Bronze on Korean server. They actually do the builds pro players do. They execute them terribly and their decision making is awful but they have a real game-plan and understand that SC2 is not quite the same as Age of Empires
So basically KR bronze is AM/EU GM?
To give a serious answer for once: I'd say more like gold-league on EU/AM. Maybe Platin.
That is a big exaggeration. KR is probably strongest in GM and master but people overestimate their lower league players way too much.
maybe I'm slightly off but I don't think by much. When I last played on NA and went from placement matches to Master I didn't hit any players who knew what they were doing until at least Gold league. Players who just build stuff for the sake of it, no actual game-plan involved.
On Korea my first game against a Bronze-league player I won easily but he actually executed a marine-hellion-medivac play pretty well with good timing and everything. He knew what he was doing, he had a gameplan and a build order and practiced to execute it. He couldn't keep up after that though
That's a huge difference, not only in mechanics but mostly in the thinking involved
Starcraft is just so ingrained into their culture they just go about it differently. We play a game. They live a lifestyle
Yeah. It's kind of awesome when you watch "The genius" and see guys that are 40+ 50+ year old know who is Yellow or Boxer. No one in my country would know any famous player even Elky is just unknown
We live in the wrong country my friend :/
Well at least your country have talked about ESL... on national tv
Yeah german esports is quite good. Just wish the crowds were more passionate then it would be perfect
On March 02 2014 19:37 FFW_Rude wrote: MVP, Life, Nestea. On screen at the same time. I'm drooling
why are people still obsessed with MVP and Nestea? I mean, I wish them all the best but both of them are confirmed Code B level. MVP sometimes shows his willpower and takes a game of someone who is 3 times as fast, but Nestea is barely good enough to beat up mid tier foreigners right now.
Bronze don't micro. They just mass carrier mothership (and kill you because you were like : "oh this guy is bad i'm going to Qaudruple expand) :p
play against Bronze on Korean server. They actually do the builds pro players do. They execute them terribly and their decision making is awful but they have a real game-plan and understand that SC2 is not quite the same as Age of Empires
So basically KR bronze is AM/EU GM?
To give a serious answer for once: I'd say more like gold-league on EU/AM. Maybe Platin.
That is a big exaggeration. KR is probably strongest in GM and master but people overestimate their lower league players way too much.
maybe I'm slightly off but I don't think by much. When I last played on NA and went from placement matches to Master I didn't hit any players who knew what they were doing until at least Gold league. Players who just build stuff for the sake of it, no actual game-plan involved.
On Korea my first game against a Bronze-league player I won easily but he actually executed a marine-hellion-medivac play pretty well with good timing and everything. He knew what he was doing, he had a gameplan and a build order and practiced to execute it. He couldn't keep up after that though
That's a huge difference, not only in mechanics but mostly in the thinking involved
Starcraft is just so ingrained into their culture they just go about it differently. We play a game. They live a lifestyle
Yeah. It's kind of awesome when you watch "The genius" and see guys that are 40+ 50+ year old know who is Yellow or Boxer. No one in my country would know any famous player even Elky is just unknown
We live in the wrong country my friend :/
well Germany is especially awful. Or maybe that's just my region here in the North of Germany. But nobody here knows much about SC2. People know that it exists but they only watch LoL or no Esports at all. Not even Dota or CS:GO.
ESL is holding some big dota tournament in one of your world cup stadiums in june i think, hopefully will be big
On March 02 2014 19:37 FFW_Rude wrote: MVP, Life, Nestea. On screen at the same time. I'm drooling
why are people still obsessed with MVP and Nestea? I mean, I wish them all the best but both of them are confirmed Code B level. MVP sometimes shows his willpower and takes a game of someone who is 3 times as fast, but Nestea is barely good enough to beat up mid tier foreigners right now.
Innovation and Flash are also "Code B level."
lol.
I don't think Flash is better than Mvp tbh
Does Flash have a 100% winrate in Proleague? I didn't think so.
Bronze don't micro. They just mass carrier mothership (and kill you because you were like : "oh this guy is bad i'm going to Qaudruple expand) :p
play against Bronze on Korean server. They actually do the builds pro players do. They execute them terribly and their decision making is awful but they have a real game-plan and understand that SC2 is not quite the same as Age of Empires
So basically KR bronze is AM/EU GM?
To give a serious answer for once: I'd say more like gold-league on EU/AM. Maybe Platin.
That is a big exaggeration. KR is probably strongest in GM and master but people overestimate their lower league players way too much.
maybe I'm slightly off but I don't think by much. When I last played on NA and went from placement matches to Master I didn't hit any players who knew what they were doing until at least Gold league. Players who just build stuff for the sake of it, no actual game-plan involved.
On Korea my first game against a Bronze-league player I won easily but he actually executed a marine-hellion-medivac play pretty well with good timing and everything. He knew what he was doing, he had a gameplan and a build order and practiced to execute it. He couldn't keep up after that though
That's a huge difference, not only in mechanics but mostly in the thinking involved
Starcraft is just so ingrained into their culture they just go about it differently. We play a game. They live a lifestyle
Yeah. It's kind of awesome when you watch "The genius" and see guys that are 40+ 50+ year old know who is Yellow or Boxer. No one in my country would know any famous player even Elky is just unknown
We live in the wrong country my friend :/
well Germany is especially awful. Or maybe that's just my region here in the North of Germany. But nobody here knows much about SC2. People know that it exists but they only watch LoL or no Esports at all. Not even Dota or CS:GO.
On March 02 2014 19:37 FFW_Rude wrote: MVP, Life, Nestea. On screen at the same time. I'm drooling
why are people still obsessed with MVP and Nestea? I mean, I wish them all the best but both of them are confirmed Code B level. MVP sometimes shows his willpower and takes a game of someone who is 3 times as fast, but Nestea is barely good enough to beat up mid tier foreigners right now.
Innovation and Flash are also "Code B level."
lol.
I don't think Flash is better than Mvp tbh
Does Flash have a 100% winrate in Proleague? I didn't think so.
play against Bronze on Korean server. They actually do the builds pro players do. They execute them terribly and their decision making is awful but they have a real game-plan and understand that SC2 is not quite the same as Age of Empires
So basically KR bronze is AM/EU GM?
To give a serious answer for once: I'd say more like gold-league on EU/AM. Maybe Platin.
That is a big exaggeration. KR is probably strongest in GM and master but people overestimate their lower league players way too much.
maybe I'm slightly off but I don't think by much. When I last played on NA and went from placement matches to Master I didn't hit any players who knew what they were doing until at least Gold league. Players who just build stuff for the sake of it, no actual game-plan involved.
On Korea my first game against a Bronze-league player I won easily but he actually executed a marine-hellion-medivac play pretty well with good timing and everything. He knew what he was doing, he had a gameplan and a build order and practiced to execute it. He couldn't keep up after that though
That's a huge difference, not only in mechanics but mostly in the thinking involved
Starcraft is just so ingrained into their culture they just go about it differently. We play a game. They live a lifestyle
Yeah. It's kind of awesome when you watch "The genius" and see guys that are 40+ 50+ year old know who is Yellow or Boxer. No one in my country would know any famous player even Elky is just unknown
We live in the wrong country my friend :/
well Germany is especially awful. Or maybe that's just my region here in the North of Germany. But nobody here knows much about SC2. People know that it exists but they only watch LoL or no Esports at all. Not even Dota or CS:GO.
ESL is holding some big dota tournament in one of your world cup stadiums in june i think, hopefully will be big
yeah I heard about that. I hope lots of people from all over Europe will fly in because German crowds are usually not that great. But it's in Frankfurt, it's easy to get there by plane from all over the world so it should be successful
play against Bronze on Korean server. They actually do the builds pro players do. They execute them terribly and their decision making is awful but they have a real game-plan and understand that SC2 is not quite the same as Age of Empires
So basically KR bronze is AM/EU GM?
To give a serious answer for once: I'd say more like gold-league on EU/AM. Maybe Platin.
That is a big exaggeration. KR is probably strongest in GM and master but people overestimate their lower league players way too much.
maybe I'm slightly off but I don't think by much. When I last played on NA and went from placement matches to Master I didn't hit any players who knew what they were doing until at least Gold league. Players who just build stuff for the sake of it, no actual game-plan involved.
On Korea my first game against a Bronze-league player I won easily but he actually executed a marine-hellion-medivac play pretty well with good timing and everything. He knew what he was doing, he had a gameplan and a build order and practiced to execute it. He couldn't keep up after that though
That's a huge difference, not only in mechanics but mostly in the thinking involved
Starcraft is just so ingrained into their culture they just go about it differently. We play a game. They live a lifestyle
Yeah. It's kind of awesome when you watch "The genius" and see guys that are 40+ 50+ year old know who is Yellow or Boxer. No one in my country would know any famous player even Elky is just unknown
We live in the wrong country my friend :/
well Germany is especially awful. Or maybe that's just my region here in the North of Germany. But nobody here knows much about SC2. People know that it exists but they only watch LoL or no Esports at all. Not even Dota or CS:GO.
Were you from Yello?
Bremen. There is no SC2 community as far as I know off. We tried to get some barcraft rolling on facebook once but there were only like 15 people who actually saw that and were interested
On March 02 2014 19:32 GumBa wrote: [quote] So basically KR bronze is AM/EU GM?
To give a serious answer for once: I'd say more like gold-league on EU/AM. Maybe Platin.
That is a big exaggeration. KR is probably strongest in GM and master but people overestimate their lower league players way too much.
maybe I'm slightly off but I don't think by much. When I last played on NA and went from placement matches to Master I didn't hit any players who knew what they were doing until at least Gold league. Players who just build stuff for the sake of it, no actual game-plan involved.
On Korea my first game against a Bronze-league player I won easily but he actually executed a marine-hellion-medivac play pretty well with good timing and everything. He knew what he was doing, he had a gameplan and a build order and practiced to execute it. He couldn't keep up after that though
That's a huge difference, not only in mechanics but mostly in the thinking involved
Starcraft is just so ingrained into their culture they just go about it differently. We play a game. They live a lifestyle
Yeah. It's kind of awesome when you watch "The genius" and see guys that are 40+ 50+ year old know who is Yellow or Boxer. No one in my country would know any famous player even Elky is just unknown
We live in the wrong country my friend :/
well Germany is especially awful. Or maybe that's just my region here in the North of Germany. But nobody here knows much about SC2. People know that it exists but they only watch LoL or no Esports at all. Not even Dota or CS:GO.
Were you from Yello?
Bremen. There is no SC2 community as far as I know off. We tried to get some barcraft rolling on facebook once but there were only like 15 people who actually saw that and were interested
Damn :/ yeah sc2 is so-so but esports in general is decent. But our crowds suuuuuuck
I think Kassia has a bright future ahead of him if he keeps playing like this. Yes he does make a lot of mistakes and still has lots to learn, but he looks like one of the best zergs that Prime has produced in like forever.
To give a serious answer for once: I'd say more like gold-league on EU/AM. Maybe Platin.
That is a big exaggeration. KR is probably strongest in GM and master but people overestimate their lower league players way too much.
maybe I'm slightly off but I don't think by much. When I last played on NA and went from placement matches to Master I didn't hit any players who knew what they were doing until at least Gold league. Players who just build stuff for the sake of it, no actual game-plan involved.
On Korea my first game against a Bronze-league player I won easily but he actually executed a marine-hellion-medivac play pretty well with good timing and everything. He knew what he was doing, he had a gameplan and a build order and practiced to execute it. He couldn't keep up after that though
That's a huge difference, not only in mechanics but mostly in the thinking involved
Starcraft is just so ingrained into their culture they just go about it differently. We play a game. They live a lifestyle
Yeah. It's kind of awesome when you watch "The genius" and see guys that are 40+ 50+ year old know who is Yellow or Boxer. No one in my country would know any famous player even Elky is just unknown
We live in the wrong country my friend :/
well Germany is especially awful. Or maybe that's just my region here in the North of Germany. But nobody here knows much about SC2. People know that it exists but they only watch LoL or no Esports at all. Not even Dota or CS:GO.
Were you from Yello?
Bremen. There is no SC2 community as far as I know off. We tried to get some barcraft rolling on facebook once but there were only like 15 people who actually saw that and were interested
Damn :/ yeah sc2 is so-so but esports in general is decent. But our crowds suuuuuuck
I live in Cologne and it's quite good in terms of e-sports here.
Kassia made a fatal mistake. He's over made corruptros to protect his mutas, but his mutas are such a paltry flock that archons/stalkers beat those by themselves.
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Poll: Recommend Prime vs. IM Ace Match?
★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (1)
7%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
14%
★★★ - Good game (4)
29%
★★ - Only if you have nothing better to do (3)
21%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (4)
29%
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Your vote: Recommend Prime vs. IM Ace Match?
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Poll: Recommend Prime vs. IM Ace Match?
★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (1)
7%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
14%
★★★ - Good game (4)
29%
★★ - Only if you have nothing better to do (3)
21%
★ - Do not see this game no matter what (4)
29%
14 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Prime vs. IM Ace Match?
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On March 02 2014 20:11 Dodgin wrote: God damn it Prime
Says the guy with the IM tag :S
I cheer for IM, not ST-IM or whatever the fuck. They lost me as a fan when they did this stupid partnership. I'm cheering for jin air now, but they have no team tag on tl ~_~
On March 02 2014 20:10 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: THAT WAS FATAL FOR SURE
On March 02 2014 20:09 TrumpetWilli wrote: What I don't understand from the Balance- / Designteam:
end of WoL:
Protoss complains: Mass Muta too strong
-> make Mutas faster & insane health regeneration
Oh Shit Protoss needs something against Mutalisks
-> Range upgrade for Phenix
___________________________
Now Mass Phoenix is just cost efficient as f*ck as long as you don't blindly fly clumped up into a fungal.
I really feel like the Phoenix is the most cost efficient unit in the game, maybe besides a really good Widow-Mine hit - I don't like it.
Even Hydras get crushed by Phoenix when they are in even numbers… …i mean WTF?
It's like Phoenixes are free and not 150/100 each.
Okay, I forgot about swarmhosts…
nonetheless:
I don't like how Phoenix are faster than every other Zerg unit, while having more range as well.
One fungal and they are all dead though. It's true that if you have impeccable micro you can kite corruptors or mutas forever, but you can never get too close to an infestor,
On March 02 2014 20:10 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: THAT WAS FATAL FOR SURE
On March 02 2014 20:09 TrumpetWilli wrote: What I don't understand from the Balance- / Designteam:
end of WoL:
Protoss complains: Mass Muta too strong
-> make Mutas faster & insane health regeneration
Oh Shit Protoss needs something against Mutalisks
-> Range upgrade for Phenix
___________________________
Now Mass Phoenix is just cost efficient as f*ck as long as you don't blindly fly clumped up into a fungal.
I really feel like the Phoenix is the most cost efficient unit in the game, maybe besides a really good Widow-Mine hit - I don't like it.
Even Hydras get crushed by Phoenix when they are in even numbers… …i mean WTF?
It's like Phoenixes are free and not 150/100 each.
Okay, I forgot about swarmhosts…
nonetheless:
I don't like how Phoenix are faster than every other Zerg unit, while having more range as well.
One fungal and they are all dead though. It's true that if you have impeccable micro you can kite corruptors or mutas forever, but you can never get too close to an infestor,
aww, common… "impeccable" micro? even I can kite with units which are shooting while moving
On March 02 2014 20:10 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: THAT WAS FATAL FOR SURE
On March 02 2014 20:09 TrumpetWilli wrote: What I don't understand from the Balance- / Designteam:
end of WoL:
Protoss complains: Mass Muta too strong
-> make Mutas faster & insane health regeneration
Oh Shit Protoss needs something against Mutalisks
-> Range upgrade for Phenix
___________________________
Now Mass Phoenix is just cost efficient as f*ck as long as you don't blindly fly clumped up into a fungal.
I really feel like the Phoenix is the most cost efficient unit in the game, maybe besides a really good Widow-Mine hit - I don't like it.
Even Hydras get crushed by Phoenix when they are in even numbers… …i mean WTF?
It's like Phoenixes are free and not 150/100 each.
Okay, I forgot about swarmhosts…
nonetheless:
I don't like how Phoenix are faster than every other Zerg unit, while having more range as well.
One fungal and they are all dead though. It's true that if you have impeccable micro you can kite corruptors or mutas forever, but you can never get too close to an infestor,
aww, common… "impeccable" micro? even I can kite with units which are shooting while moving
yes, impeccable. You can't just move command them, they will outrun the corruptors and not shoot at all, then the muta clump is free to kill the gound army or the base. You have to dart in and out to start shooting again, which allows the corruptos to shoot again if not done perfectly, and will also clump up your phoenixes, which is bad against fungal. Phoenixes are very hard to use, if you don't believe this, try it yourself on ladder.
On March 02 2014 20:10 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: THAT WAS FATAL FOR SURE
On March 02 2014 20:09 TrumpetWilli wrote: What I don't understand from the Balance- / Designteam:
end of WoL:
Protoss complains: Mass Muta too strong
-> make Mutas faster & insane health regeneration
Oh Shit Protoss needs something against Mutalisks
-> Range upgrade for Phenix
___________________________
Now Mass Phoenix is just cost efficient as f*ck as long as you don't blindly fly clumped up into a fungal.
I really feel like the Phoenix is the most cost efficient unit in the game, maybe besides a really good Widow-Mine hit - I don't like it.
Even Hydras get crushed by Phoenix when they are in even numbers… …i mean WTF?
It's like Phoenixes are free and not 150/100 each.
Okay, I forgot about swarmhosts…
nonetheless:
I don't like how Phoenix are faster than every other Zerg unit, while having more range as well.
One fungal and they are all dead though. It's true that if you have impeccable micro you can kite corruptors or mutas forever, but you can never get too close to an infestor,
aww, common… "impeccable" micro? even I can kite with units which are shooting while moving
yes, impeccable. You can't just move command them, they will outrun the corruptors and not shoot at all, then the muta clump is free to kill the gound army or the base. You have to dodge in and out to start shooting again, which allows the corruptos to shoot again if not done perfectly, and will also clump up your phoenixes, which is bad against fungal. Phoenixes are very hard to use, if you don't believe this, try it yourself on ladder.
It's kind of true. I'm not that afraid to go muta vs phenix on ladder cause you just turn out and kill everything because the guy is as bad as me and doesn't micro them back fast enough. But i wouldn't call that impeccable micro. As Zerg i cannot say good thing about protoss. It's part of what i signed when i clicked Z.
prime has two hard matchups this week and creator could go 4-0 (but understandably it was hard to trade creator off since only soulkey and zest were ahead in points)
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