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Okay calm down folks, stop balance whining or the bans are going to get long.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 16 2014 16:04 GMT
#1821
queens off creep
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
February 16 2014 16:04 GMT
#1822
On February 17 2014 01:00 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 00:57 The_Templar wrote:
On February 17 2014 00:53 The_Templar wrote:
On February 17 2014 00:49 The_Templar wrote:
IEM Cologne: RO8

(Z)Jaedong vs (P)Patience
2-2


Map: Alterzim Stronghold


Jaedong spawns in the top right
Patience spawns in the bottom left

1:00
Jaedong doing the extractor trick
Patience going gateway first.

2:00
Jaedong going hatchery first.
2 assimilators from Patience.
Jaedong again going three hatcheries before a spawning pool.

3:00
Patience getting a cybernetics core.
Two probes in each assimilator.
Spawning pool for Jaedong.
Patience taking an expansion.

4:00
Mothership core form Patience.
Patience not scouting.
Warp gate being researched.
Patience getting a sentry.
Jaedong researching zergling speed.
Two zerglings being produced.

5:00
Patience getting a stargate.
Patience scouting Jaedong but hasn't found him yet since they're cross positions.
Jaedong droning up and scouting with zerglings.

6:00 (Z)Jaedong 48 vs (P)Patience 42
Phoenix production starts for Patience.
Patience getting two assimilators at his natural.
Jaedong loses an overlord to the first pheonix.

7:00 (Z)Jaedong 62 vs (P)Patience 47
Jaedong temporarily gets supply blocked.
Jaedong going for the main but sentries are there to FF.
+1 air weapons on the way for Patience.
Jaedong getting spore crawlers and two evolution chambers.

8:00 (Z)Jaedong 71 vs (P)Patience 58
11 drones on the way.
Jaedong getting +1/1 and a lair.
Patience picking up a queen and killing it.
Robotics facility and a forge for Patience.
Spore crawlers are getting in position.

9:00 (Z)Jaedong 86 vs (P)Patience 67
Patience has only killed 3 workers.
Patience getting +1 ground attack.
Jaedong getting an infestation pit.

10:00 (Z)Jaedong 96 vs (P)Patience 80
Patience getting a robotics bay.
Phoenixes pick up and kill a few more workers.
Patience getting his third base.
Jaedong getting a hive and trying to pressure the third base.
Patience killing more drones in the natural of Jaedong.

11:00 (Z)Jaedong 118 vs (P)Patience 101
+2/2 on the way for Jaedong.
Patience getting colossi and extended thermal lance.
Patience killing more drones in the main as well as some overlords.

12:00 (Z)Jaedong 128 vs (P)Patience 114
+1 armor and charge for Patience.
Patience getting another forge.
Jaedong getting an ultralisk den.
Fourth base for Jaedong.
Patience scouts the ultralisk den with his phoenixes.

13:00 (Z)Jaedong 135 vs (P)Patience 124
Jaedong getting 7 more overlords and adrenal glands.
Spire on the way for Jaedong.
Extended thermal lance is finishing up.
Jaedong finishing +2/2.
Ultralisk armor on the way for Jaedong as well as +3/3.

14:00 (Z)Jaedong 134 vs (P)Patience 134
Jaedong not banking enough money to get ultralisks.
Jaedong getting vipers.
Patience kills more drones in the 4th.
Jaedong has about 8 queens.
Patience loses all his phoenixes because of well placed fungals.
Jaedong killing rocks on the left with zerglings.

15:00 (Z)Jaedong 169 vs (P)Patience 136
Jaedong moving tons of zerglings into the 4th base and focusing the nexus.
Zerglings hang around and all die to zealots.
Ultralisks on the way.
Patience starting to morph archons.
Jaedong taking a 5th base

16:00 (Z)Jaedong 176 vs (P)Patience 163
Immortal drop in the natural dies.
Jaedong has just three vipers.

17:00 (Z)Jaedong 189 vs (P)Patience 180
Greater spire and 7 corupters being built.
Zealots going for the 5th base of Jaedong, ultralisks come to defend.
Jaedong loses his 5th base.
Patience researching storm.

18:00 (Z)Jaedong 196 vs (P)Patience 179
Jaedong morphing 4 brood lords.
Warpin in the base of Jaedong goes after the evolution chambers.
+3/3 and +1 air armor is on the way for Patience.
Two ultralisks being sacrificed.
Two more ultralisks force a recall.

19:00 (Z)Jaedong 188 vs (P)Patience 173
Two more stargates and a fleet beacon for Patience.
+1 air weapons and +1 ranged ground weapons on the way for Jaedong.
Patience loses two immortals in the center of the map.

20:00 (Z)Jaedong 186 vs (P)Patience 170
Jaedong losing ultralisks in the bottom of the map.
Patience taking a 5th but it's cancelled by JAedong.
Burrow for Jaedong, as well as +1 fliers.
Jaedong getting another spire.
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ImperialFist
Profile Joined April 2013
790 Posts
February 16 2014 16:04 GMT
#1823
what is JD doing? he is camping with broodlord and queens?
"In the name of Holy Terra I challenge, Take up arms, for the Emperor’s Justice falls on you!"
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12565 Posts
February 16 2014 16:04 GMT
#1824
On February 17 2014 01:03 SmoKim wrote:
JD can't loose now

seriously, that shouldn't be possible

protoss sky deathball > zerg's without SH
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
February 16 2014 16:05 GMT
#1825
Correction: It's not a swarm host game...yet.
Get off my lawn, young punks
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
February 16 2014 16:05 GMT
#1826
On February 17 2014 00:58 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 00:53 raga4ka wrote:
On February 17 2014 00:46 Big J wrote:
On February 17 2014 00:41 bo1b wrote:
On February 17 2014 00:39 Big J wrote:
On February 17 2014 00:37 Talionis wrote:
On February 17 2014 00:36 Big J wrote:
On February 17 2014 00:34 nkr wrote:
korean swarmhost meta is so far behind eu, jaedong should just skip that and stick to agression and tech switches :/


There are good Korean Zergs too. Roro is pretty good.
But yeah, Jaedong, Soulkey, Life... there is a bunch of Zergs that seem to be quite bad when it comes to dealing with an opponent that actually reaches a useful army.

wat


Soulkey against Reality... Soulkey against whatever Protoss that was he thought that he should run his Corruptors into VRs, when he could have just built more Spines/Spores and sieged that base longer and longer.
Soulkey seems to be quite lost against lategame Protoss and Terran Mech. And these days Ps/Ts actually reach those armies against him.

There aren't any zergs that know how to play against a late game mech army when they've ran out of gas


Then maybe think about how you play before you run out of gas? Maybe think about building more than 1Viper and 1Spellcaster and spending your last 2000gas on another wave of mutalisks which hasn't worked for the entirety of the game.

Watch Stephano. Watch Snute. Watch Firecake. Watch Roro. Those guys don't waste their money for units that they won't need. They don't get into those situations to begin with.


Pff man please Soulkey is way above this guys's league , only Roro comes close to his level . And Reality isn't your avarage mecher or TvZer in general he is probably top 5 in the world in TvZ . He was spesifically practising turtle mech on that map , european terrans can't compare . Whats with people bashing on the best zerg in the world , comparing him to players way below his level ?


Yes, he is above those guys. Mechanically. And in the midgame. His endgame strategies are quite questionable and he usually just stops adapting to his opponent the moment he builds Swarm Hosts.


This is bullshit , him and Roro are the best late game zergs in the world . One loss to Zest who's PvZ is on the level of Parting and Rain and one tie against Reality's steller TvZ mech on a specifically practised map and people think that europeans are an the same level or better then his lategame ...
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
February 16 2014 16:05 GMT
#1827
Should have attacked already..
Dwayn
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany949 Posts
February 16 2014 16:06 GMT
#1828
i feel like JD is going to lose, you just can't win against lategame toss without SHs
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
February 16 2014 16:06 GMT
#1829
Ultra 1-0 Sentry
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
February 16 2014 16:06 GMT
#1830
On February 17 2014 01:03 SmoKim wrote:
JD can't loose now

seriously, that shouldn't be possible

On the contrary, I don't see him winning this because this map isn't good for Swarm Hosts.

I don't know, if Patience fuck up it may be possible.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-16 16:07:51
February 16 2014 16:07 GMT
#1831
I havent seen a zerg win lategame vs protoss without swarmhosts in a while. Hopefully it can still happen.

Also I dont know why jd isnt making a billion static defence and takes the corner bases. Might as well.

EDIT: now he does ^^
Amove for Aiur
Abominous
Profile Joined March 2013
Croatia1625 Posts
February 16 2014 16:07 GMT
#1832
This will be a win for Patience unfortunately...
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
February 16 2014 16:07 GMT
#1833
On February 17 2014 01:06 shabby wrote:
Ultra 1-0 Sentry


REMATCH PLS
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12365 Posts
February 16 2014 16:07 GMT
#1834
Jaedong should take a big fight and then go ultras. It's obvious that Patience will go phenixes after the fight.
No will to live, no wish to die
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
February 16 2014 16:07 GMT
#1835
On February 17 2014 01:06 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 01:03 SmoKim wrote:
JD can't loose now

seriously, that shouldn't be possible

On the contrary, I don't see him winning this because this map isn't good for Swarm Hosts.

I don't know, if Patience fuck up it may be possible.

snute disagrees
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
February 16 2014 16:08 GMT
#1836
Seriously, this map is complete shit, you can't attack.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
sninja
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland207 Posts
February 16 2014 16:08 GMT
#1837
I'd love to see JD win but I'm afraid that he has lost this one as most likely he will switch into mutas afterwards and get owned by 5 stargate phoenixes tt
Dwayn
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany949 Posts
February 16 2014 16:08 GMT
#1838
On February 17 2014 01:06 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 01:03 SmoKim wrote:
JD can't loose now

seriously, that shouldn't be possible

On the contrary, I don't see him winning this because this map isn't good for Swarm Hosts.

I don't know, if Patience fuck up it may be possible.

that's why alterzim is horrible for zerg imo.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
February 16 2014 16:08 GMT
#1839
On February 17 2014 01:04 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 01:00 The_Templar wrote:
On February 17 2014 00:57 The_Templar wrote:
On February 17 2014 00:53 The_Templar wrote:
On February 17 2014 00:49 The_Templar wrote:
IEM Cologne: RO8

(Z)Jaedong vs (P)Patience
2-2


Map: Alterzim Stronghold


Jaedong spawns in the top right
Patience spawns in the bottom left

1:00
Jaedong doing the extractor trick
Patience going gateway first.

2:00
Jaedong going hatchery first.
2 assimilators from Patience.
Jaedong again going three hatcheries before a spawning pool.

3:00
Patience getting a cybernetics core.
Two probes in each assimilator.
Spawning pool for Jaedong.
Patience taking an expansion.

4:00
Mothership core form Patience.
Patience not scouting.
Warp gate being researched.
Patience getting a sentry.
Jaedong researching zergling speed.
Two zerglings being produced.

5:00
Patience getting a stargate.
Patience scouting Jaedong but hasn't found him yet since they're cross positions.
Jaedong droning up and scouting with zerglings.

6:00 (Z)Jaedong 48 vs (P)Patience 42
Phoenix production starts for Patience.
Patience getting two assimilators at his natural.
Jaedong loses an overlord to the first pheonix.

7:00 (Z)Jaedong 62 vs (P)Patience 47
Jaedong temporarily gets supply blocked.
Jaedong going for the main but sentries are there to FF.
+1 air weapons on the way for Patience.
Jaedong getting spore crawlers and two evolution chambers.

8:00 (Z)Jaedong 71 vs (P)Patience 58
11 drones on the way.
Jaedong getting +1/1 and a lair.
Patience picking up a queen and killing it.
Robotics facility and a forge for Patience.
Spore crawlers are getting in position.

9:00 (Z)Jaedong 86 vs (P)Patience 67
Patience has only killed 3 workers.
Patience getting +1 ground attack.
Jaedong getting an infestation pit.

10:00 (Z)Jaedong 96 vs (P)Patience 80
Patience getting a robotics bay.
Phoenixes pick up and kill a few more workers.
Patience getting his third base.
Jaedong getting a hive and trying to pressure the third base.
Patience killing more drones in the natural of Jaedong.

11:00 (Z)Jaedong 118 vs (P)Patience 101
+2/2 on the way for Jaedong.
Patience getting colossi and extended thermal lance.
Patience killing more drones in the main as well as some overlords.

12:00 (Z)Jaedong 128 vs (P)Patience 114
+1 armor and charge for Patience.
Patience getting another forge.
Jaedong getting an ultralisk den.
Fourth base for Jaedong.
Patience scouts the ultralisk den with his phoenixes.

13:00 (Z)Jaedong 135 vs (P)Patience 124
Jaedong getting 7 more overlords and adrenal glands.
Spire on the way for Jaedong.
Extended thermal lance is finishing up.
Jaedong finishing +2/2.
Ultralisk armor on the way for Jaedong as well as +3/3.

14:00 (Z)Jaedong 134 vs (P)Patience 134
Jaedong not banking enough money to get ultralisks.
Jaedong getting vipers.
Patience kills more drones in the 4th.
Jaedong has about 8 queens.
Patience loses all his phoenixes because of well placed fungals.
Jaedong killing rocks on the left with zerglings.

15:00 (Z)Jaedong 169 vs (P)Patience 136
Jaedong moving tons of zerglings into the 4th base and focusing the nexus.
Zerglings hang around and all die to zealots.
Ultralisks on the way.
Patience starting to morph archons.
Jaedong taking a 5th base

16:00 (Z)Jaedong 176 vs (P)Patience 163
Immortal drop in the natural dies.
Jaedong has just three vipers.

17:00 (Z)Jaedong 189 vs (P)Patience 180
Greater spire and 7 corupters being built.
Zealots going for the 5th base of Jaedong, ultralisks come to defend.
Jaedong loses his 5th base.
Patience researching storm.

18:00 (Z)Jaedong 196 vs (P)Patience 179
Jaedong morphing 4 brood lords.
Warpin in the base of Jaedong goes after the evolution chambers.
+3/3 and +1 air armor is on the way for Patience.
Two ultralisks being sacrificed.
Two more ultralisks force a recall.

19:00 (Z)Jaedong 188 vs (P)Patience 173
Two more stargates and a fleet beacon for Patience.
+1 air weapons and +1 ranged ground weapons on the way for Jaedong.
Patience loses two immortals in the center of the map.

20:00 (Z)Jaedong 186 vs (P)Patience 170
Jaedong losing ultralisks in the bottom of the map.
Patience taking a 5th but it's cancelled by JAedong.
Burrow for Jaedong, as well as +1 fliers.
Jaedong getting another spire.

21:00 (Z)Jaedong 192 vs (P)Patience 182
Three more stargates for Patience, as well as phoenix range.
Patience getting a dark shrine.
+2 flier weapons, +2 ranged weapons, +1 air armor for Jaedong.
Zerglings catch two more immortals.
Jaedong taking a 6th base, Patience retaking his 5th.

22:00 (Z)Jaedong 195 vs (P)Patience 192
Dark shrine for Patience, as well as +2/2 air weapons/armor.
Armies about to clash.
7 more infestors for Jaedong.

23:00 (Z)Jaedong 193 vs (P)Patience 185
Jaedong sacrifices zerglings near Patience's 5th.
Jaedong cancelled his 6th due to the protoss army, now he's retaking it.
Overlord drop being researched.
11 infestors on the field.

24:00 (Z)Jaedong 197 vs (P)Patience 197
Storm on the 6th of Patience before he takes it.
More zerglings flooding into the 5th base of Patience but there are a lot of cannons.
+2/3 air upgrades begin.

25:00 (Z)Jaedong 198 vs (P)Patience 199
DT gets sacrificed into a spine crawler wall.
Jaedong taking a 7th base.
Patience building 12 cannons.
+3 air weapons and +3 shields for Patience.
4 more gateways for Patience.
Jaedong floating 3000/6000
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sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
February 16 2014 16:08 GMT
#1840
This has reached nightmare stage, yawn yawn yawn
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
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