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Okay calm down folks, stop balance whining or the bans are going to get long.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
February 16 2014 15:58 GMT
#1801
ultras?
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
February 16 2014 15:58 GMT
#1802
On February 17 2014 00:53 raga4ka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 00:46 Big J wrote:
On February 17 2014 00:41 bo1b wrote:
On February 17 2014 00:39 Big J wrote:
On February 17 2014 00:37 Talionis wrote:
On February 17 2014 00:36 Big J wrote:
On February 17 2014 00:34 nkr wrote:
korean swarmhost meta is so far behind eu, jaedong should just skip that and stick to agression and tech switches :/


There are good Korean Zergs too. Roro is pretty good.
But yeah, Jaedong, Soulkey, Life... there is a bunch of Zergs that seem to be quite bad when it comes to dealing with an opponent that actually reaches a useful army.

wat


Soulkey against Reality... Soulkey against whatever Protoss that was he thought that he should run his Corruptors into VRs, when he could have just built more Spines/Spores and sieged that base longer and longer.
Soulkey seems to be quite lost against lategame Protoss and Terran Mech. And these days Ps/Ts actually reach those armies against him.

There aren't any zergs that know how to play against a late game mech army when they've ran out of gas


Then maybe think about how you play before you run out of gas? Maybe think about building more than 1Viper and 1Spellcaster and spending your last 2000gas on another wave of mutalisks which hasn't worked for the entirety of the game.

Watch Stephano. Watch Snute. Watch Firecake. Watch Roro. Those guys don't waste their money for units that they won't need. They don't get into those situations to begin with.


Pff man please Soulkey is way above this guys's league , only Roro comes close to his level . And Reality isn't your avarage mecher or TvZer in general he is probably top 5 in the world in TvZ . He was spesifically practising turtle mech on that map , european terrans can't compare . Whats with people bashing on the best zerg in the world , comparing him to players way below his level ?


Yes, he is above those guys. Mechanically. And in the midgame. His endgame strategies are quite questionable and he usually just stops adapting to his opponent the moment he builds Swarm Hosts.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 16 2014 15:58 GMT
#1803
Are you seeing this squat, my wish has been realised
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
February 16 2014 15:58 GMT
#1804
Those Phoenix has really paid for themself, so much done with them
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
February 16 2014 15:59 GMT
#1805
Needs better creep spread for ultras imo
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 16 2014 15:59 GMT
#1806
Who wanted to see Jaedong play ling infestor into ultra?
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
February 16 2014 15:59 GMT
#1807
well if patience doesn't attack the ultras won't be that good :/
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 16 2014 15:59 GMT
#1808
On February 17 2014 00:59 Darkhorse wrote:
Who wanted to see Jaedong play ling infestor into ultra?

Me
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
February 16 2014 15:59 GMT
#1809
the most cost efficient phoenix there has ever been
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
February 16 2014 16:00 GMT
#1810
This map is almost impossible for zerg in the late game, too big and open for hosts, ground armies can't do shit and muta basetrade is extremely difficult. Also recall becomes much stronger with the huge distances.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
February 16 2014 16:00 GMT
#1811
On February 17 2014 00:59 Darkhorse wrote:
Who wanted to see Jaedong play ling infestor into ultra?

Cos ultras can't be lifted
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
February 16 2014 16:00 GMT
#1812
I love cracklings so much
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
February 16 2014 16:00 GMT
#1813
On February 17 2014 00:57 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 00:53 The_Templar wrote:
On February 17 2014 00:49 The_Templar wrote:
IEM Cologne: RO8

(Z)Jaedong vs (P)Patience
2-2


Map: Alterzim Stronghold


Jaedong spawns in the top right
Patience spawns in the bottom left

1:00
Jaedong doing the extractor trick
Patience going gateway first.

2:00
Jaedong going hatchery first.
2 assimilators from Patience.
Jaedong again going three hatcheries before a spawning pool.

3:00
Patience getting a cybernetics core.
Two probes in each assimilator.
Spawning pool for Jaedong.
Patience taking an expansion.

4:00
Mothership core form Patience.
Patience not scouting.
Warp gate being researched.
Patience getting a sentry.
Jaedong researching zergling speed.
Two zerglings being produced.

5:00
Patience getting a stargate.
Patience scouting Jaedong but hasn't found him yet since they're cross positions.
Jaedong droning up and scouting with zerglings.

6:00 (Z)Jaedong 48 vs (P)Patience 42
Phoenix production starts for Patience.
Patience getting two assimilators at his natural.
Jaedong loses an overlord to the first pheonix.

7:00 (Z)Jaedong 62 vs (P)Patience 47
Jaedong temporarily gets supply blocked.
Jaedong going for the main but sentries are there to FF.
+1 air weapons on the way for Patience.
Jaedong getting spore crawlers and two evolution chambers.

8:00 (Z)Jaedong 71 vs (P)Patience 58
11 drones on the way.
Jaedong getting +1/1 and a lair.
Patience picking up a queen and killing it.
Robotics facility and a forge for Patience.
Spore crawlers are getting in position.

9:00 (Z)Jaedong 86 vs (P)Patience 67
Patience has only killed 3 workers.
Patience getting +1 ground attack.
Jaedong getting an infestation pit.

10:00 (Z)Jaedong 96 vs (P)Patience 80
Patience getting a robotics bay.
Phoenixes pick up and kill a few more workers.
Patience getting his third base.
Jaedong getting a hive and trying to pressure the third base.
Patience killing more drones in the natural of Jaedong.

11:00 (Z)Jaedong 118 vs (P)Patience 101
+2/2 on the way for Jaedong.
Patience getting colossi and extended thermal lance.
Patience killing more drones in the main as well as some overlords.

12:00 (Z)Jaedong 128 vs (P)Patience 114
+1 armor and charge for Patience.
Patience getting another forge.
Jaedong getting an ultralisk den.
Fourth base for Jaedong.
Patience scouts the ultralisk den with his phoenixes.

13:00 (Z)Jaedong 135 vs (P)Patience 124
Jaedong getting 7 more overlords and adrenal glands.
Spire on the way for Jaedong.
Extended thermal lance is finishing up.
Jaedong finishing +2/2.
Ultralisk armor on the way for Jaedong as well as +3/3.

14:00 (Z)Jaedong 134 vs (P)Patience 134
Jaedong not banking enough money to get ultralisks.
Jaedong getting vipers.
Patience kills more drones in the 4th.
Jaedong has about 8 queens.
Patience loses all his phoenixes because of well placed fungals.
Jaedong killing rocks on the left with zerglings.

15:00 (Z)Jaedong 169 vs (P)Patience 136
Jaedong moving tons of zerglings into the 4th base and focusing the nexus.
Zerglings hang around and all die to zealots.
Ultralisks on the way.
Patience starting to morph archons.
Jaedong taking a 5th base
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 16 2014 16:01 GMT
#1814
On February 17 2014 00:59 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 00:59 Darkhorse wrote:
Who wanted to see Jaedong play ling infestor into ultra?

Me

Congrats!
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 16 2014 16:01 GMT
#1815
On February 17 2014 01:00 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 00:59 Darkhorse wrote:
Who wanted to see Jaedong play ling infestor into ultra?

Cos ultras can't be lifted

swarmhost corrupter with mass spores beats that pretty handily
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 16 2014 16:02 GMT
#1816
On February 17 2014 01:01 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 00:59 bo1b wrote:
On February 17 2014 00:59 Darkhorse wrote:
Who wanted to see Jaedong play ling infestor into ultra?

Me

Congrats!

Its the style of play which suits him really well, super apm intersive with 5 seperate units to control, aggressive as fuck, and leads beautifully into mass muta transition. And it looks better in everyway then swarmhosts
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
February 16 2014 16:02 GMT
#1817
didn't need that evo chamber anyway
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
February 16 2014 16:03 GMT
#1818
Ultra harass? lol
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 16 2014 16:03 GMT
#1819
Void ray switch needs to be fast here...
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
February 16 2014 16:03 GMT
#1820
JD can't loose now

seriously, that shouldn't be possible
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
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