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[IEM] Cologne Day 4 - Ro8, Ro4 and Grand Finals - Page 306

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Okay calm down folks, stop balance whining or the bans are going to get long.
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
February 16 2014 22:08 GMT
#6101
On February 17 2014 07:07 Neemi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 07:00 redviper wrote:
On February 17 2014 06:55 robson1 wrote:
On February 17 2014 06:53 Squat wrote:
It is absolutely baffling that JD still has not figured out that zerg is never supposed to be aggressive when ahead, unless you have already won. If he just falls back, makes some drones and masses hydras, hero has zero chance of winning. Again, his over-aggression kills him. And he never learns.

Fuck everything, I'll go drink some battery acid now or something.


Lol. JD is so terrible with his consistent top 4 finishes. He never learns how to play decently. Must be hard to be butthurt all the time.


I'll never understand this devotion that people bring over for JD from BW days.
Lets list all the tournaments JD has won shall we.

Asus ROG
Numericable M-House Cup
HyperX 10 year anniversary.

Its pretty lol worthy to compare him to HerO.

WCS NA S1
NASL S4
DH Winter
DH Winter
IPL Fight club
MLG Summer quals
IPL Season 3 qual 1.
FXOpen Invite

Not to mention that HerO actually plays in PL and Jaedong plays in .. well nothing really. Not even GSTL.





I like how you pad that list with two qualifiers & a fight club win, and conveniently leave out all the semi-final/final finishes for a player who consistently reaches them (over 10 in a year) or that JD did all of this (besides HyperX) in one year where HerO did that over 3-4 years.

It's not just devotion from BW, JD is actually one of the best zergs from 2013 in his own right, and one of the most accessible pros at that. I get why people like or dislike him, but discrediting him as simply garnering attention from BW is just silly. Flash had a bigger fanbase going into SC2 and it's pretty safe to say JD's fanbase now eclipses Flash's.

Well said, sir.
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
February 16 2014 22:08 GMT
#6102
Polt had some time to rest, and HerO still looks kinda stressed from last game. If I were to judge from their mental states, I'd favor Polt here.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1616 Posts
February 16 2014 22:08 GMT
#6103
On February 17 2014 07:05 DaedricTV wrote:
I really hope HerO wins, I really like Polt, but you guys are truly disgusting with your reactions.

I hope HerO wins just to ruin your weekend.


How have you convinced yourself that you're anything other than being very obviously more disgusting, by wishing for our unhappiness, than anyone here who is upset about something that happened in a game? You can has introspection?
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Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
February 16 2014 22:08 GMT
#6104
If Polt can react well to cheese he has this final. If he was able to win against Rain in macro games I dont see him losing to HerO.
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3128 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-16 22:09:26
February 16 2014 22:08 GMT
#6105
Why? Why should JD be able to make mistakes at the very highest level of competititive Starcraft versus a race and a strategy where little mistakes matter a lot...and still win? Because it's "fair"?

Because different races shouldn't be allowed to have different strengths in an asymmetrical RTS game? Because different strategies with different strengths and weaknesses shouldn't exist? Because micro players should never be able to beat macro players?

Hero won with skill. JD lost using skill, because he made mistakes. THIS IS HOW THE GAME IS SUPPOSED TO WORK!
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Arkeda
Profile Joined December 2012
24 Posts
February 16 2014 22:08 GMT
#6106
On February 17 2014 07:06 Cheren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 07:04 Heartland wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:03 NarutO wrote:
Why the hell are so many people negative? Yes people don't like allins, I can understand. People don't like their favorite losing, I get that. But who the hell can say that this series wasn't nailbiting and exciting till the end? Seriously what is wrong with you. Today we got some of the best Starcraft out there and we should all be happy that IEM hits over 80000 viewers.

Please make the scene a bit more enjoyable for yourself.


It's better with players who have this built-in tragedy and comedy in their fandom. Like Bomber (unless you're Wintex). They take losses so much better.


You'd think Jaedong fans would be in a similar place by now instead of expecting him to win every tournament and blaming balance when he doesn't. This is the Blizzcon finals all over again.


Oh fuck off. Even writers on TL believed Jaedong was the superior player at BlizzCon in terms of mechanics and decision making, but was defeated by purely from cheese. Do you really think sOs would have won BlizzCon if he played this matches straight up? He just exploited the power of his broken race.

User was temp banned for this post.
yotis
Profile Joined September 2011
Czech Republic652 Posts
February 16 2014 22:08 GMT
#6107
So much hate, my eyes bleed !
are they lost forever?
DaedricTV
Profile Joined February 2014
United Kingdom94 Posts
February 16 2014 22:08 GMT
#6108
On February 17 2014 07:07 argonautdice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 07:05 DaedricTV wrote:
I really hope HerO wins, I really like Polt, but you guys are truly disgusting with your reactions.

I hope HerO wins just to ruin your weekend.

lol, you mad?


I'm sure you'll find its the JD fans who are mad
Beakyboo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States485 Posts
February 16 2014 22:08 GMT
#6109
exciting game or not, does anyone actually like that immortal sentry is still a thing? i love hero, but games like this just make me hate protoss design so much.
gulati
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2241 Posts
February 16 2014 22:08 GMT
#6110
it's sad because i love liquid and hero, but i don't think i can ever root against polt. he's just too adorable.
C r u m b l i n g
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
February 16 2014 22:08 GMT
#6111
On February 17 2014 07:05 redviper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 07:03 bo1b wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:00 redviper wrote:
On February 17 2014 06:55 robson1 wrote:
On February 17 2014 06:53 Squat wrote:
It is absolutely baffling that JD still has not figured out that zerg is never supposed to be aggressive when ahead, unless you have already won. If he just falls back, makes some drones and masses hydras, hero has zero chance of winning. Again, his over-aggression kills him. And he never learns.

Fuck everything, I'll go drink some battery acid now or something.


Lol. JD is so terrible with his consistent top 4 finishes. He never learns how to play decently. Must be hard to be butthurt all the time.


I'll never understand this devotion that people bring over for JD from BW days.
Lets list all the tournaments JD has won shall we.

Asus ROG
Numericable M-House Cup
HyperX 10 year anniversary.

Its pretty lol worthy to compare him to HerO.

WCS NA S1
NASL S4
DH Winter
DH Winter
IPL Fight club
MLG Summer quals
IPL Season 3 qual 1.
FXOpen Invite

Not to mention that HerO actually plays in PL and Jaedong plays in .. well nothing really. Not even GSTL.




So basically getting 5 silvers in a row last year means he's worse then hero?



Getting out micro'd by hero after doing a 3 hatch-gas-pool opening says he is worse than Hero.

The results show that he isn't in the same league.


outmicroed? Spamming forcefields with 10 sentries isnt micro. Microing immortals, that take forever to kill to begin with, in to a warp prism isnt impressive when you consider that was the only unit he was microing. He lost so many stalkers and sentries in bad positions. The only thing I can think of that was impressive was his macro tbh. Ive seen many protoss do that build with alot better micro.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
February 16 2014 22:09 GMT
#6112
On February 17 2014 07:08 stuchiu wrote:
I'm gone for 10 pages and the bans went up by triple the amount.


seriously, Jaedong must have thrown hardcore
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Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-16 22:09:08
February 16 2014 22:09 GMT
#6113
This was posted a couple of years ago. And can also be seen in the Polt fan club. It's quite fitting

On October 17 2011 12:06 BatesC wrote:
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On October 17 2011 07:55 Mordiford wrote:
Poor Polt, gets no credit.


Thats the thing about polt though

He's the hero Starcraft 2 deserves, but not the one it needs right now.

So we'll downplay him because he can take it. Because he's not our hero.

He's a silent badass

a watchful progamer

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a polt knight
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Mintie
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia563 Posts
February 16 2014 22:09 GMT
#6114
Wow, this has been an awesome tournament. Couldn't ask for a better finals, I think Polt should be slightly favoured here but it's going to be damned close.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 16 2014 22:09 GMT
#6115
On February 17 2014 07:08 stuchiu wrote:
I'm gone for 10 pages and the bans went up by triple the amount.

You missed some shit.
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argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
February 16 2014 22:09 GMT
#6116
On February 17 2014 07:08 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 07:07 argonautdice wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:05 DaedricTV wrote:
I really hope HerO wins, I really like Polt, but you guys are truly disgusting with your reactions.

I hope HerO wins just to ruin your weekend.

lol, you mad?

Actually more like everyone else is mad at protoss.

Are you mad? Probably less than the other guy.

User was warned for this post
very illegal and very uncool
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
February 16 2014 22:09 GMT
#6117
On February 17 2014 07:08 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 07:06 Cheren wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:04 Heartland wrote:
On February 17 2014 07:03 NarutO wrote:
Why the hell are so many people negative? Yes people don't like allins, I can understand. People don't like their favorite losing, I get that. But who the hell can say that this series wasn't nailbiting and exciting till the end? Seriously what is wrong with you. Today we got some of the best Starcraft out there and we should all be happy that IEM hits over 80000 viewers.

Please make the scene a bit more enjoyable for yourself.


It's better with players who have this built-in tragedy and comedy in their fandom. Like Bomber (unless you're Wintex). They take losses so much better.


You'd think Jaedong fans would be in a similar place by now instead of expecting him to win every tournament and blaming balance when he doesn't. This is the Blizzcon finals all over again.

If hero didn't 4gate/cannon rush every game except the one jaedong 6 pooled on people might respect the result a bit more. A 15 minute 'all in' sure makes people happy though thats for sure


Like I said, Blizzcon finals all over again.
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
February 16 2014 22:09 GMT
#6118
On February 17 2014 07:07 Killcani wrote:
Polt loves TvP LOL he certainly does not


Yeah he loves TvP so much that he wanted JD in the finals :D
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
February 16 2014 22:09 GMT
#6119
On February 17 2014 07:08 stuchiu wrote:
I'm gone for 10 pages and the bans went up by triple the amount.


and rightfully so.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
February 16 2014 22:09 GMT
#6120
On February 17 2014 07:00 redviper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 06:55 robson1 wrote:
On February 17 2014 06:53 Squat wrote:
It is absolutely baffling that JD still has not figured out that zerg is never supposed to be aggressive when ahead, unless you have already won. If he just falls back, makes some drones and masses hydras, hero has zero chance of winning. Again, his over-aggression kills him. And he never learns.

Fuck everything, I'll go drink some battery acid now or something.


Lol. JD is so terrible with his consistent top 4 finishes. He never learns how to play decently. Must be hard to be butthurt all the time.


I'll never understand this devotion that people bring over for JD from BW days.
Lets list all the tournaments JD has won shall we.

Asus ROG
Numericable M-House Cup
HyperX 10 year anniversary.

Its pretty lol worthy to compare him to HerO.

WCS NA S1
NASL S4
DH Winter
DH Winter
IPL Fight club
MLG Summer quals
IPL Season 3 qual 1.
FXOpen Invite

Not to mention that HerO actually plays in PL and Jaedong plays in .. well nothing really. Not even GSTL.




JD was a Brood War legend. Without people like him, this game, this tournament, this website would not exist. Hate all you want but players like JD built this fucking scene with their hard work in a cramped apartment for shit pay over years and years.

People respect him because he's fucking earned it. People like him because of what he's done, and for the awesome memories he's given them. Unless you were there, you will never understand.
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