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[IEM] Cologne Day 4 - Ro8, Ro4 and Grand Finals - Page 243

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Okay calm down folks, stop balance whining or the bans are going to get long.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
February 16 2014 20:45 GMT
#4841
On February 17 2014 05:45 gnr9292 wrote:
this map is the worst thing ever


What about Miley Cyrus?
Zerg for Life
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24603 Posts
February 16 2014 20:45 GMT
#4842
I'm sure reasonable build responses will come out from Zerg now that this gold base rush stuff is getting common.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 16 2014 20:45 GMT
#4843
On February 17 2014 05:45 resfirestar wrote:
I feel this must be so exhausting for HerO that he could have a hard time against Polt.

I mean Polt's series vs Rain wasn't exactly a walk in the park.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
February 16 2014 20:46 GMT
#4844
On February 17 2014 05:43 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 05:42 Heartland wrote:
@MrBitterTV 3m

lol, this is Rotti's 8 gate... I think he messaged Hero about it a week or so ago


ERM if i may.... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=414359

This build has been around forever. And it's awesome.

How it is awesome when the zerg knows exactly what protoss does and can't react do anything?

There are no map bans?
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 16 2014 20:46 GMT
#4845
On February 17 2014 05:44 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 05:43 Snusmumriken wrote:
I cant help but feel absolutely disgusted when I see hero play today. I usually like him a lot but i dunno, this is such abusive play... oh well I hope jd can scrape by yet again.


Abusive? IdrA is gone can that weird attitude disappear already?


Some playstyles are abusive. For example, the 1-1-1 against Protoss back in 2011 was abusive, because the Protoss had trouble scouting it, and had to guess on how to react. Prepare for the 1-1-1, and you could die to a 2 rax pressure. Prepare for the 2 rax pressure, and you die to the 1-1-1.

BL-infestor was also abusive.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Butterz
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
688 Posts
February 16 2014 20:46 GMT
#4846
so polt needs to get ready for his protoss gear ? ......
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
February 16 2014 20:46 GMT
#4847
On February 17 2014 05:45 Fortuna.424 wrote:
Cant u play a baneling bust against this by baiting one photon overcharge and then attacking the other protoss base?


You certainly can attempt it, and it's reasonably strong, but by committing to a third base he missed his timing.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
February 16 2014 20:46 GMT
#4848
Trademark HerO choke time?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 16 2014 20:46 GMT
#4849
Look I didn't want to give it away, but there are two builds that kill this. Either

1) 1 base 7 roach rush.

Or

2) 2 base speedling cancel into 8 roach rush.
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 16 2014 20:46 GMT
#4850
On February 17 2014 05:45 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 05:42 KalWarkov wrote:
stephano in his prime wouldve held that. he knew the exact dronecount he needed, didnt build units before he needed to, took prefect fights.



Stephano in his prime had broodlord-infestor, there was no MSC for protoss etc.

Is the 12 minute max out now blord infestor?
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
February 16 2014 20:46 GMT
#4851
It's fascinating to me that people now consider gold bases overpowered for Protoss, when Protoss actually started doing much better after gold bases were finally removed from the individual league map pools.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
February 16 2014 20:46 GMT
#4852
On February 17 2014 05:46 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 05:44 Exarl25 wrote:
On February 17 2014 05:43 Snusmumriken wrote:
I cant help but feel absolutely disgusted when I see hero play today. I usually like him a lot but i dunno, this is such abusive play... oh well I hope jd can scrape by yet again.


Abusive? IdrA is gone can that weird attitude disappear already?


Some playstyles are abusive. For example, the 1-1-1 against Protoss back in 2011 was abusive, because the Protoss had trouble scouting it, and had to guess on how to react. Prepare for the 1-1-1, and you could die to a 2 rax pressure. Prepare for the 2 rax pressure, and you die to the 1-1-1.

BL-infestor was also abusive.

no, 1-1-1, was beautiful, it was art, it took heart.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24603 Posts
February 16 2014 20:46 GMT
#4853
@CallMeTasteless 3m

Damn hero played really well that game :o

WHAT.

This tournament even reigniting Tasteless passhhhhuuuuuunnzzzzz
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
February 16 2014 20:46 GMT
#4854
On February 17 2014 05:46 Skynx wrote:
Trademark HerO choke time?


I hope so.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
February 16 2014 20:46 GMT
#4855
On February 17 2014 05:45 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 05:45 resfirestar wrote:
I feel this must be so exhausting for HerO that he could have a hard time against Polt.

I mean Polt's series vs Rain wasn't exactly a walk in the park.

I guess he is being ironic ?
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
February 16 2014 20:46 GMT
#4856
On February 17 2014 05:44 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 05:44 The_Templar wrote:
On February 17 2014 05:43 Teoita wrote:
On February 17 2014 05:42 Heartland wrote:
@MrBitterTV 3m

lol, this is Rotti's 8 gate... I think he messaged Hero about it a week or so ago


ERM if i may.... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=414359

This build has been around forever. And it's awesome.

9 months = forever?

by the memories of sc2 fans, easily


Thats enough time for MKP to leave for LOL, come back, leave again for LOL, and then come back a third time.
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5c0rp10n
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany342 Posts
February 16 2014 20:46 GMT
#4857
wow, nice music esl!
| NaNiwa | CJ`herO |
Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
February 16 2014 20:46 GMT
#4858
On February 17 2014 05:45 gnr9292 wrote:
this map is the worst thing ever

I dare to say Steppes of War was better! xD
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
February 16 2014 20:47 GMT
#4859
On February 17 2014 05:45 Fortuna.424 wrote:
Cant u play a baneling bust against this by baiting one photon overcharge and then attacking the other protoss base?


you cant relieably bait a photon overcharge. 1 zealot at both walls is enough.

you have to go for the bust despite there being photon overcharge available to have a shot. if you bait the photon overcharge showing a shitton of lings or even some banelings, P can hold forever with forcefields, cuz both ramps are so small
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
February 16 2014 20:47 GMT
#4860
On February 17 2014 05:45 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 05:42 KalWarkov wrote:
stephano in his prime wouldve held that. he knew the exact dronecount he needed, didnt build units before he needed to, took prefect fights.



Stephano in his prime had broodlord-infestor, there was no MSC for protoss etc.


Stephano in his prime just did his own fucking thing and made it work. He probably would have double expanded to both golds and maxed on Roaches at 8 minutes or some crazy shit.
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