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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
February 14 2014 16:29 GMT
#701
On February 15 2014 01:27 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 01:23 Nomzter wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:22 GumBa wrote:
If MC bullshits his way past inno tomorrow then I want to wrestle
Mc

why would MC have to bullshit his way past innovation? mc is like 4 times as good as him

Please...

I want their drugs
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Green_25
Profile Joined June 2013
Great Britain696 Posts
February 14 2014 16:29 GMT
#702
On February 15 2014 01:26 crappen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 01:23 Green_25 wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:19 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:18 SoulCapsule wrote:
im sick of Kaelaris's hype "stellar stellar play" while there was nothing special in HerO's plays but gimmicky stuff.


He outsmarted ForGG in both games. All four games tbh. Simple as that.

Its kinda hard to 'outsmart' someone when you only have one viable option to play. Thats kinda what people are complaining about, Protoss has a million options whereas terran has very few.

Anyway, patch is coming soon, so we should all stop whining. Seeing a terran die to proxy oracle does make you want to kill shit unfortunately


Really? Patch coming soon, or blizzard soon? It's the only thing I wait on

Either way, if you hate it that much you can just play starbow. We as a fanbase are way too entitled these days, sometimes it feels like the whining is never ending
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
February 14 2014 16:30 GMT
#703
On February 15 2014 01:28 Qwerty85 wrote:
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On February 15 2014 01:23 TheDwf wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:18 Noonius wrote:
2 protoss from group A.
2 protoss from group B?

Betting on one Protoss + jjakji.


Jjakji has a chance but Patience is pretty good, not to mention Dear.
I wont even watch poor Heromarine because it will be extremely ugly against MC and Classic.

Polt probably has best chances because he can win JD and against Mana

Jjakji is better than Patience, and won Dear at EES finals, so it's not impossible to do it again. Anything can happen but I'm still reasonably optimistic.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 14 2014 16:30 GMT
#704
On February 15 2014 01:22 Lorning wrote:
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On February 15 2014 01:22 Darkhoarse wrote:
So much whining

We should start some banter again

I'm in class. I am free for banter at 12 est
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 14 2014 16:30 GMT
#705
So Terran continues to race towards extinction then?
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
February 14 2014 16:30 GMT
#706
Lorning trolling hard
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
February 14 2014 16:30 GMT
#707
On February 15 2014 01:30 stuchiu wrote:
So Terran continues to race towards extinction then?

HeroMarine will save us all.
PanzerElite
Profile Joined May 2012
540 Posts
February 14 2014 16:30 GMT
#708
On February 15 2014 01:27 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 01:20 SoulCapsule wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:19 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:18 SoulCapsule wrote:
im sick of Kaelaris's hype "stellar stellar play" while there was nothing special in HerO's plays but gimmicky stuff.


He outsmarted ForGG in both games. All four games tbh. Simple as that.


No man. Sorry to tell you that it wasnt "outsmarting your opponent". ForGG basically lost the first game because of an hidden base, of course he shoulda scouted it but even. Second game 1 time warp costed him the game.

That's it.


Nope, not "but even". Scout it, destroy it. HerO made no mistakes, ForGG did. That's HerO being the better player in that game.

And Apollo just explained why he lost everything to the timewarp. Meanwhile HerO capitalized on all the mistakes ForGG made. There was a better player here and it wasn't ForGG.

The thing is as Terran you die while as Protoss you can still somehow continue in a lot of situations.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
February 14 2014 16:30 GMT
#709
On February 15 2014 01:28 SoulCapsule wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 01:27 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:20 SoulCapsule wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:19 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:18 SoulCapsule wrote:
im sick of Kaelaris's hype "stellar stellar play" while there was nothing special in HerO's plays but gimmicky stuff.


He outsmarted ForGG in both games. All four games tbh. Simple as that.


No man. Sorry to tell you that it wasnt "outsmarting your opponent". ForGG basically lost the first game because of an hidden base, of course he shoulda scouted it but even. Second game 1 time warp costed him the game.

That's it.


Nope, not "but even". Scout it, destroy it. HerO made no mistakes, ForGG did. That's HerO being the better player.

And Apollo just explained why he lost everything to the timewarp. Meanwhile HerO capitalized on all the mistakes ForGG made. There was a better player here and it wasn't ForGG.


Ah man i won't argue with you anymore i'm done. If you really think that last game was fair i can't do shit.


If it wasn't then every game would look like this. ForGG made mistakes, HerO exploited them. Stop whining.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Green_25
Profile Joined June 2013
Great Britain696 Posts
February 14 2014 16:30 GMT
#710
On February 15 2014 01:27 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 01:20 SoulCapsule wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:19 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:18 SoulCapsule wrote:
im sick of Kaelaris's hype "stellar stellar play" while there was nothing special in HerO's plays but gimmicky stuff.


He outsmarted ForGG in both games. All four games tbh. Simple as that.


No man. Sorry to tell you that it wasnt "outsmarting your opponent". ForGG basically lost the first game because of an hidden base, of course he shoulda scouted it but even. Second game 1 time warp costed him the game.

That's it.


Nope, not "but even". Scout it, destroy it. HerO made no mistakes, ForGG did. That's HerO being the better player in that game.

And Apollo just explained why he lost everything to the timewarp. Meanwhile HerO capitalized on all the mistakes ForGG made. There was a better player here and it wasn't ForGG.

Hero made a ton of mistakes in both games actually
Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
February 14 2014 16:31 GMT
#711
Okay QXC, not matter what happens... Please don't break your keyboard.
"Touch my gosu hands." - Tastosis | | fOrGG // MC // Jaedong
coloursheep
Profile Joined May 2011
China497 Posts
February 14 2014 16:31 GMT
#712
On February 15 2014 01:25 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 01:25 Lorning wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:24 GumBa wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:23 Nomzter wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:22 GumBa wrote:
If MC bullshits his way past inno tomorrow then I want to wrestle
Mc

why would MC have to bullshit his way past innovation? mc is like 4 times as good as him

LOOOOOOOOOOOL

He's right tho

Wtf are you smoking?


Four times better is an overstatement but MC is better than Innovation at the moment, Innovation's form has fallen off quite a bit since his peak and MC has be steadily improving
MavivaM
Profile Joined November 2011
1535 Posts
February 14 2014 16:31 GMT
#713
On February 15 2014 01:23 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 01:22 Lorning wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:22 Darkhoarse wrote:
So much whining

We should start some banter again

NSHS > Prime

How could that generate some banter, it's such an obvious fact.
Look at their lineup: NSHoseo had San, Ssanaee, Jjakji and so on.
All the three races represented, plus there was Freaky as well.
Prime brought us Creator and Polt. And a couple of cheesers, I guess.

Not even close.
Your Opinion has been counted. Only 3 more Opinions needed for a reddit thread.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 14 2014 16:32 GMT
#714
Lorning to troll for you guys
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
February 14 2014 16:32 GMT
#715
On February 15 2014 01:29 JustPassingBy wrote:
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On February 15 2014 01:27 Lorning wrote:
Innovation's earnings: $101,762
MC's earnings: $416,988

Thats even more than 4 times as good

math never lies


Have you factored in that MC started earlier? What are the earnings from the point on when Innovation entered the field?
edit: sarcasm radar is malfunctioning.

Earlier? MC's first game was on the 29th of July '08. Bogus' first game was on the 21st of September '08. That's barely 2 months
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
February 14 2014 16:32 GMT
#716
On February 15 2014 01:31 MavivaM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 01:23 NovaMB wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:22 Lorning wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:22 Darkhoarse wrote:
So much whining

We should start some banter again

NSHS > Prime

How could that generate some banter, it's such an obvious fact.
Look at their lineup: NSHoseo had San, Ssanaee, Jjakji and so on.
All the three races represented, plus there was Freaky as well.
Prime brought us Creator and Polt. And a couple of cheesers, I guess.

Not even close.

MADGOD GODBULL you left us too soon
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Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
February 14 2014 16:32 GMT
#717
On February 15 2014 01:25 Mozdk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 01:20 Qwerty85 wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:19 Mozdk wrote:
Didn't Forgg spot the 2nd or 3rd Oracle? Seems pretty bad to let all your marines get time warp. It's the only possible way to get far behind at the point.


If he pulled the marines back he would lose the tech lab on the barracks. He was building a turret and trying to protect it with those marines but turret was not up in time.


As you see techlap was not under threat. Either he didn't have to keep marines so close so they all get time warped.

I am just questioning all the "disgusting" things. If this was so good that it can't be dealt with or hardly can't, we wouldn't see proxy oracle 1/10 games. But 9/10


That is hardly a good argument. Going for the same thing every time while you have at least 3-4 good alternatives against a race would just be dumb in a best of series.

Even something as simple as 2 base blink can have variations that are crucial for terran to scout in order to respond correctly.
Bunkering up if he is taking a fast third puts you behind even if protoss doesn't even attack at all. Not investing into bunkers if he is on 5-7 gates straight up kills you. Being contained in your base for too long against 3 gate fake blink pressure into tech means you can't counter attack because tech will be ready by the time you get to protoss base etc.

Just watch any Bo3 or Bo5, you will always see at least 1 blink game and 1 oracle game and they will usually be successful.
Dinotramp
Profile Joined August 2012
Nauru2871 Posts
February 14 2014 16:33 GMT
#718
On February 15 2014 01:30 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 01:28 SoulCapsule wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:27 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:20 SoulCapsule wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:19 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:18 SoulCapsule wrote:
im sick of Kaelaris's hype "stellar stellar play" while there was nothing special in HerO's plays but gimmicky stuff.


He outsmarted ForGG in both games. All four games tbh. Simple as that.


No man. Sorry to tell you that it wasnt "outsmarting your opponent". ForGG basically lost the first game because of an hidden base, of course he shoulda scouted it but even. Second game 1 time warp costed him the game.

That's it.


Nope, not "but even". Scout it, destroy it. HerO made no mistakes, ForGG did. That's HerO being the better player.

And Apollo just explained why he lost everything to the timewarp. Meanwhile HerO capitalized on all the mistakes ForGG made. There was a better player here and it wasn't ForGG.


Ah man i won't argue with you anymore i'm done. If you really think that last game was fair i can't do shit.


If it wasn't then every game would look like this. ForGG made mistakes, HerO exploited them. Stop whining.


Just because people disagree with how the game played out doesn't mean they're whining. You're just as bad as whiners by claiming everything is perfectly balanced.
RIP Starcraft scene in the UK. Defeated by EG money and Swedish Zergs.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
February 14 2014 16:33 GMT
#719
On February 15 2014 01:30 Green_25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 01:27 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:20 SoulCapsule wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:19 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 15 2014 01:18 SoulCapsule wrote:
im sick of Kaelaris's hype "stellar stellar play" while there was nothing special in HerO's plays but gimmicky stuff.


He outsmarted ForGG in both games. All four games tbh. Simple as that.


No man. Sorry to tell you that it wasnt "outsmarting your opponent". ForGG basically lost the first game because of an hidden base, of course he shoulda scouted it but even. Second game 1 time warp costed him the game.

That's it.


Nope, not "but even". Scout it, destroy it. HerO made no mistakes, ForGG did. That's HerO being the better player in that game.

And Apollo just explained why he lost everything to the timewarp. Meanwhile HerO capitalized on all the mistakes ForGG made. There was a better player here and it wasn't ForGG.

Hero made a ton of mistakes in both games actually


No mistake quite as severe as not realizing a hidden third base and not getting ghosts on 4 bases.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
February 14 2014 16:33 GMT
#720
On February 15 2014 01:30 GumBa wrote:
Lorning trolling hard

Since when is pointing out the truth trolling?
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