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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On February 09 2014 08:57 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 08:56 stuchiu wrote:On February 09 2014 08:55 Yorkie wrote:On February 09 2014 08:54 stuchiu wrote:On February 09 2014 08:46 Yorkie wrote:On February 09 2014 08:44 Shellshock wrote:On February 09 2014 08:44 Yorkie wrote:On February 09 2014 08:43 stuchiu wrote:On February 09 2014 08:40 DarkLordOlli wrote: HerO 0 - 1  viOLet10pool gamble on Frost caught HerO's nexus first 10 POOL IS THE TRUTH Nexus first gamble gets caught by God of all Builds 10 pool. Yeah except it was blind. if HerO had spawned in the bottom left Violet would have lost instantly HerO shouldn't have been so greedy Nexus first isn't insane unorthodox greed. It's pretty standard. Violet gambled on the 50/50 and got it 10 pool isn't an insane coinflip either. Yeah the build isn't, it was just that it was a 4 player map and he only knew that HerO wasn't top right. He ran his lings straight to top left and arrived just before the wall was ready. If HerO had spawned bottom left the lings would've been way too late. That was the coin flip part, not the build Violet needs to learn from me and Curious and drone scout with 10 pool, then its always an instant victory. He did drone scout D:
Did he do the overlord to vertical spawn, drone scout to one corner and lings to the last corner? Then it wasn't really blind and I have no idea what you guys are talking about.
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United States97277 Posts
On February 09 2014 08:57 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 08:56 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 09 2014 08:55 Paljas wrote:On February 09 2014 08:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 09 2014 08:45 Paljas wrote:On February 09 2014 08:44 Yorkie wrote:On February 09 2014 08:43 stuchiu wrote:On February 09 2014 08:40 DarkLordOlli wrote: HerO 0 - 1 viOLet10pool gamble on Frost caught HerO's nexus first 10 POOL IS THE TRUTH Nexus first gamble gets caught by God of all Builds 10 pool. Yeah except it was blind. if HerO had spawned in the bottom left Violet would have lost instantly the nexus first was blind too, no? There's no forge opening as protoss that doesn't put you behind if zerg doesn't early pool. So you might say that protoss always has to gamble a bit vs zerg with the openings. or he could just go gateway first Then viOLet can gamble on a 3hatch before pool (like he did successfully this game). I've always wondered. Naniwa called Duckdeok a coin flipper, but when he did it himself, he called it mindgames. What is the difference?
People cry after lucky gambles. people don't cry after mind games?
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Crap, I'm so fucking tired, but I wanna watch Jjakji...:D
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On February 09 2014 08:57 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 08:56 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 09 2014 08:55 Paljas wrote:On February 09 2014 08:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 09 2014 08:45 Paljas wrote:On February 09 2014 08:44 Yorkie wrote:On February 09 2014 08:43 stuchiu wrote:On February 09 2014 08:40 DarkLordOlli wrote: HerO 0 - 1 viOLet10pool gamble on Frost caught HerO's nexus first 10 POOL IS THE TRUTH Nexus first gamble gets caught by God of all Builds 10 pool. Yeah except it was blind. if HerO had spawned in the bottom left Violet would have lost instantly the nexus first was blind too, no? There's no forge opening as protoss that doesn't put you behind if zerg doesn't early pool. So you might say that protoss always has to gamble a bit vs zerg with the openings. or he could just go gateway first Then viOLet can gamble on a 3hatch before pool (like he did successfully this game). I've always wondered. Naniwa called Duckdeok a coin flipper, but when he did it himself, he called it mindgames. What is the difference?
It's necessary for a foreigner to use when playing Koreans because they can't win at macro
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On February 09 2014 08:56 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 08:55 Yorkie wrote:On February 09 2014 08:54 stuchiu wrote:On February 09 2014 08:46 Yorkie wrote:On February 09 2014 08:44 Shellshock wrote:On February 09 2014 08:44 Yorkie wrote:On February 09 2014 08:43 stuchiu wrote:On February 09 2014 08:40 DarkLordOlli wrote: HerO 0 - 1 viOLet10pool gamble on Frost caught HerO's nexus first 10 POOL IS THE TRUTH Nexus first gamble gets caught by God of all Builds 10 pool. Yeah except it was blind. if HerO had spawned in the bottom left Violet would have lost instantly HerO shouldn't have been so greedy Nexus first isn't insane unorthodox greed. It's pretty standard. Violet gambled on the 50/50 and got it 10 pool isn't an insane coinflip either. Yeah the build isn't, it was just that it was a 4 player map and he only knew that HerO wasn't top right. He ran his lings straight to top left and arrived just before the wall was ready. If HerO had spawned bottom left the lings would've been way too late. That was the coin flip part, not the build Violet needs to learn from me and Curious and drone scout with 10 pool, then its always an instant victory.
Or in ZvZ just bring a drone ahead of time to plant a spine on the edge of the creep :D
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On February 09 2014 08:58 NovaMB wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 08:57 stuchiu wrote:On February 09 2014 08:56 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 09 2014 08:55 Paljas wrote:On February 09 2014 08:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 09 2014 08:45 Paljas wrote:On February 09 2014 08:44 Yorkie wrote:On February 09 2014 08:43 stuchiu wrote:On February 09 2014 08:40 DarkLordOlli wrote: HerO 0 - 1 viOLet10pool gamble on Frost caught HerO's nexus first 10 POOL IS THE TRUTH Nexus first gamble gets caught by God of all Builds 10 pool. Yeah except it was blind. if HerO had spawned in the bottom left Violet would have lost instantly the nexus first was blind too, no? There's no forge opening as protoss that doesn't put you behind if zerg doesn't early pool. So you might say that protoss always has to gamble a bit vs zerg with the openings. or he could just go gateway first Then viOLet can gamble on a 3hatch before pool (like he did successfully this game). I've always wondered. Naniwa called Duckdeok a coin flipper, but when he did it himself, he called it mindgames. What is the difference? Its a white boy doing it
Naniwa is constantly showing appreciation to PartinG/sOs/Dear. I highly doubt, that he as as simple minded as you make him sound like.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On February 09 2014 08:59 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 08:56 stuchiu wrote:On February 09 2014 08:55 Yorkie wrote:On February 09 2014 08:54 stuchiu wrote:On February 09 2014 08:46 Yorkie wrote:On February 09 2014 08:44 Shellshock wrote:On February 09 2014 08:44 Yorkie wrote:On February 09 2014 08:43 stuchiu wrote:On February 09 2014 08:40 DarkLordOlli wrote: HerO 0 - 1 viOLet10pool gamble on Frost caught HerO's nexus first 10 POOL IS THE TRUTH Nexus first gamble gets caught by God of all Builds 10 pool. Yeah except it was blind. if HerO had spawned in the bottom left Violet would have lost instantly HerO shouldn't have been so greedy Nexus first isn't insane unorthodox greed. It's pretty standard. Violet gambled on the 50/50 and got it 10 pool isn't an insane coinflip either. Yeah the build isn't, it was just that it was a 4 player map and he only knew that HerO wasn't top right. He ran his lings straight to top left and arrived just before the wall was ready. If HerO had spawned bottom left the lings would've been way too late. That was the coin flip part, not the build Violet needs to learn from me and Curious and drone scout with 10 pool, then its always an instant victory. Or in ZvZ just bring a drone ahead of time to plant a spine on the edge of the creep :D
I wonder if it says something about me that all the Zerg builds I've learned have all been these super dirty off tempo builds from Leenock, Life, Suhosin, Hyvaa, Symbol, Nestea and Shine.
*Oh and Zenio.
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haha thx. looks promising..
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On February 09 2014 08:57 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 08:56 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 09 2014 08:55 Paljas wrote:On February 09 2014 08:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 09 2014 08:45 Paljas wrote:On February 09 2014 08:44 Yorkie wrote:On February 09 2014 08:43 stuchiu wrote:On February 09 2014 08:40 DarkLordOlli wrote: HerO 0 - 1 viOLet10pool gamble on Frost caught HerO's nexus first 10 POOL IS THE TRUTH Nexus first gamble gets caught by God of all Builds 10 pool. Yeah except it was blind. if HerO had spawned in the bottom left Violet would have lost instantly the nexus first was blind too, no? There's no forge opening as protoss that doesn't put you behind if zerg doesn't early pool. So you might say that protoss always has to gamble a bit vs zerg with the openings. or he could just go gateway first Then viOLet can gamble on a 3hatch before pool (like he did successfully this game). Doesn't really look very successful atm.
The opening went perfect for violet but he got caught droning with a big zealot/phoenix attack that he should have been ready for.
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Violet's funtacular ZvP seems to be alive and well.
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On February 09 2014 08:57 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 08:56 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 09 2014 08:55 Paljas wrote:On February 09 2014 08:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 09 2014 08:45 Paljas wrote:On February 09 2014 08:44 Yorkie wrote:On February 09 2014 08:43 stuchiu wrote:On February 09 2014 08:40 DarkLordOlli wrote: HerO 0 - 1 viOLet10pool gamble on Frost caught HerO's nexus first 10 POOL IS THE TRUTH Nexus first gamble gets caught by God of all Builds 10 pool. Yeah except it was blind. if HerO had spawned in the bottom left Violet would have lost instantly the nexus first was blind too, no? There's no forge opening as protoss that doesn't put you behind if zerg doesn't early pool. So you might say that protoss always has to gamble a bit vs zerg with the openings. or he could just go gateway first Then viOLet can gamble on a 3hatch before pool (like he did successfully this game). I've always wondered. Naniwa called Duckdeok a coin flipper, but when he did it himself, he called it mindgames. What is the difference?
The difference is that PvP is about flipping coins and you can flip them responsibly or carelessly.
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GG HerO :D. That was very smooth
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On February 09 2014 09:02 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 08:57 Squat wrote:On February 09 2014 08:56 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 09 2014 08:55 Paljas wrote:On February 09 2014 08:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 09 2014 08:45 Paljas wrote:On February 09 2014 08:44 Yorkie wrote:On February 09 2014 08:43 stuchiu wrote:On February 09 2014 08:40 DarkLordOlli wrote: HerO 0 - 1 viOLet10pool gamble on Frost caught HerO's nexus first 10 POOL IS THE TRUTH Nexus first gamble gets caught by God of all Builds 10 pool. Yeah except it was blind. if HerO had spawned in the bottom left Violet would have lost instantly the nexus first was blind too, no? There's no forge opening as protoss that doesn't put you behind if zerg doesn't early pool. So you might say that protoss always has to gamble a bit vs zerg with the openings. or he could just go gateway first Then viOLet can gamble on a 3hatch before pool (like he did successfully this game). Doesn't really look very successful atm. The opening went perfect for violet but he got caught droning with a big zealot/phoenix attack that he should have been ready for.
Which was largely because his greedy opening and lack of scouting.
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If I could choose, I would choose some Spider-HyuN for IEM WC 
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On February 09 2014 09:02 Beta2k wrote:haha thx. looks promising..
Update: Grubby has 30k minerals and 13k gas
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
wow, I actually witnessed Hydra winning
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EPT
StarDust 1-1 
jjakji
