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On February 09 2014 08:48 Shellshock wrote:
all I'm hearing from Olli is reluctance to admit that Astrea has better PvZ than HerO
Ranking of PvZ players in the world:
1. Hitman
2. Astrea
3. Everyone else
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Sad about paranoid
Where is the bly game
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United States97276 Posts
On February 09 2014 08:50 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 08:48 Shellshock wrote:
all I'm hearing from Olli is reluctance to admit that Astrea has better PvZ than HerO Ranking of PvZ players in the world: 1. Hitman 2. Astrea 3. Everyone else
also  Top
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On February 09 2014 08:51 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 08:50 Yorkie wrote:On February 09 2014 08:48 Shellshock wrote:
all I'm hearing from Olli is reluctance to admit that Astrea has better PvZ than HerO Ranking of PvZ players in the world: 1. Hitman 2. Astrea 3. Everyone else also Top
Well obviously I could've done more like Top and Elfi and not Dear but I don't have the time
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On February 09 2014 08:48 DarkLordOlli wrote:Urrgh, Polar Night Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 08:48 Ej_ wrote:On February 09 2014 08:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 09 2014 08:45 Paljas wrote:On February 09 2014 08:44 Yorkie wrote:On February 09 2014 08:43 stuchiu wrote:On February 09 2014 08:40 DarkLordOlli wrote: HerO 0 - 1  viOLet10pool gamble on Frost caught HerO's nexus first 10 POOL IS THE TRUTH Nexus first gamble gets caught by God of all Builds 10 pool. Yeah except it was blind. if HerO had spawned in the bottom left Violet would have lost instantly the nexus first was blind too, no? There's no forge opening as protoss that doesn't put you behind if zerg doesn't early pool. So you might say that protoss always has to gamble a bit vs zerg with the openings. cannon rush? Cannon rushing is a coinflip.
sOs disagree 
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On February 09 2014 08:46 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 08:44 Shellshock wrote:On February 09 2014 08:44 Yorkie wrote:On February 09 2014 08:43 stuchiu wrote:On February 09 2014 08:40 DarkLordOlli wrote: HerO 0 - 1 viOLet10pool gamble on Frost caught HerO's nexus first 10 POOL IS THE TRUTH Nexus first gamble gets caught by God of all Builds 10 pool. Yeah except it was blind. if HerO had spawned in the bottom left Violet would have lost instantly HerO shouldn't have been so greedy Nexus first isn't insane unorthodox greed. It's pretty standard. Violet gambled on the 50/50 and got it
10 pool isn't an insane coinflip either.
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On February 09 2014 08:45 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 08:44 dyDrawer wrote:
Dear's current form MILES below his prime. Sad to see. Jaedong, Revival, Oz, and aLive join EG and improve Lucifron joins mouz and disappears. Dear joins mouz and does worse Are we seeing the new curse?
Dear joins mouz and instantly makes a final. Luci joins Mouz and stays on his late-K3-level for half a year. Naama adn ThorZaIN reached teir big wins on mouz and fell off, after they left. Hasu stays on Mouz for 10 years now and remains uncursed. Heromarine gets developed into EPS champion material by Mouz.
I think, it would need a bit more to justify a curse.
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On February 09 2014 08:54 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 08:45 Shellshock wrote:On February 09 2014 08:44 dyDrawer wrote:
Dear's current form MILES below his prime. Sad to see. Jaedong, Revival, Oz, and aLive join EG and improve Lucifron joins mouz and disappears. Dear joins mouz and does worse Are we seeing the new curse? Dear joins mouz and instantly makes a final. Luci joins Mouz and stays on his late-K3-level for half a year. Naama adn ThorZaIN reached teir big wins on mouz and fell off, after they left. Hasu stays on Mouz for 10 years now and remains uncursed. Heromarine gets developed into EPS champion material by Mouz. I think, it would need a bit more to justify a curse.
then maybe Mouz is 1 and done 
+ Show Spoiler +I never believed in those stupid curses anyways
only real ones are Fionn and Artosis as far as sc2 goes. Zealously trying to make a name for himself though
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On February 09 2014 08:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 08:45 Paljas wrote:On February 09 2014 08:44 Yorkie wrote:On February 09 2014 08:43 stuchiu wrote:On February 09 2014 08:40 DarkLordOlli wrote: HerO 0 - 1 viOLet10pool gamble on Frost caught HerO's nexus first 10 POOL IS THE TRUTH Nexus first gamble gets caught by God of all Builds 10 pool. Yeah except it was blind. if HerO had spawned in the bottom left Violet would have lost instantly the nexus first was blind too, no? There's no forge opening as protoss that doesn't put you behind if zerg doesn't early pool. So you might say that protoss always has to gamble a bit vs zerg with the openings.
or he could just go gateway first
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On February 09 2014 08:54 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 08:46 Yorkie wrote:On February 09 2014 08:44 Shellshock wrote:On February 09 2014 08:44 Yorkie wrote:On February 09 2014 08:43 stuchiu wrote:On February 09 2014 08:40 DarkLordOlli wrote: HerO 0 - 1 viOLet10pool gamble on Frost caught HerO's nexus first 10 POOL IS THE TRUTH Nexus first gamble gets caught by God of all Builds 10 pool. Yeah except it was blind. if HerO had spawned in the bottom left Violet would have lost instantly HerO shouldn't have been so greedy Nexus first isn't insane unorthodox greed. It's pretty standard. Violet gambled on the 50/50 and got it 10 pool isn't an insane coinflip either.
Yeah the build isn't, it was just that it was a 4 player map and he only knew that HerO wasn't top right. He ran his lings straight to top left and arrived just before the wall was ready. If HerO had spawned bottom left the lings would've been way too late. That was the coin flip part, not the build
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On February 09 2014 08:55 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 08:54 Xoronius wrote:On February 09 2014 08:45 Shellshock wrote:On February 09 2014 08:44 dyDrawer wrote:
Dear's current form MILES below his prime. Sad to see. Jaedong, Revival, Oz, and aLive join EG and improve Lucifron joins mouz and disappears. Dear joins mouz and does worse Are we seeing the new curse? Dear joins mouz and instantly makes a final. Luci joins Mouz and stays on his late-K3-level for half a year. Naama adn ThorZaIN reached teir big wins on mouz and fell off, after they left. Hasu stays on Mouz for 10 years now and remains uncursed. Heromarine gets developed into EPS champion material by Mouz. I think, it would need a bit more to justify a curse. then maybe Mouz is 1 and done + Show Spoiler +I never believed in those stupid curses anyways
only real ones are Fionn and Artosis as far as sc2 goes. Zealously trying to make a name for himself though
The Oz curse is the realest thing to have ever happened.
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Austria24422 Posts
On February 09 2014 08:55 Paljas wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 08:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 09 2014 08:45 Paljas wrote:On February 09 2014 08:44 Yorkie wrote:On February 09 2014 08:43 stuchiu wrote:On February 09 2014 08:40 DarkLordOlli wrote: HerO 0 - 1 viOLet10pool gamble on Frost caught HerO's nexus first 10 POOL IS THE TRUTH Nexus first gamble gets caught by God of all Builds 10 pool. Yeah except it was blind. if HerO had spawned in the bottom left Violet would have lost instantly the nexus first was blind too, no? There's no forge opening as protoss that doesn't put you behind if zerg doesn't early pool. So you might say that protoss always has to gamble a bit vs zerg with the openings. or he could just go gateway first
Then viOLet can gamble on a 3hatch before pool (like he did successfully this game).
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United States97276 Posts
On February 09 2014 08:55 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 08:55 Shellshock wrote:On February 09 2014 08:54 Xoronius wrote:On February 09 2014 08:45 Shellshock wrote:On February 09 2014 08:44 dyDrawer wrote:
Dear's current form MILES below his prime. Sad to see. Jaedong, Revival, Oz, and aLive join EG and improve Lucifron joins mouz and disappears. Dear joins mouz and does worse Are we seeing the new curse? Dear joins mouz and instantly makes a final. Luci joins Mouz and stays on his late-K3-level for half a year. Naama adn ThorZaIN reached teir big wins on mouz and fell off, after they left. Hasu stays on Mouz for 10 years now and remains uncursed. Heromarine gets developed into EPS champion material by Mouz. I think, it would need a bit more to justify a curse. then maybe Mouz is 1 and done + Show Spoiler +I never believed in those stupid curses anyways
only real ones are Fionn and Artosis as far as sc2 goes. Zealously trying to make a name for himself though The Oz curse is the realest thing to have ever happened.
oh of course how could I forget that. I helped find the numbers with you that night when we wrote it out
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On February 09 2014 08:55 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 08:54 stuchiu wrote:On February 09 2014 08:46 Yorkie wrote:On February 09 2014 08:44 Shellshock wrote:On February 09 2014 08:44 Yorkie wrote:On February 09 2014 08:43 stuchiu wrote:On February 09 2014 08:40 DarkLordOlli wrote: HerO 0 - 1 viOLet10pool gamble on Frost caught HerO's nexus first 10 POOL IS THE TRUTH Nexus first gamble gets caught by God of all Builds 10 pool. Yeah except it was blind. if HerO had spawned in the bottom left Violet would have lost instantly HerO shouldn't have been so greedy Nexus first isn't insane unorthodox greed. It's pretty standard. Violet gambled on the 50/50 and got it 10 pool isn't an insane coinflip either. Yeah the build isn't, it was just that it was a 4 player map and he only knew that HerO wasn't top right. He ran his lings straight to top left and arrived just before the wall was ready. If HerO had spawned bottom left the lings would've been way too late. That was the coin flip part, not the build
Violet needs to learn from me and Curious and drone scout with 10 pool, then its always an instant victory.
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why does everyone wait to build swarm hosts until the upgrade is halfway done....
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Austria24422 Posts
On February 09 2014 08:56 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 08:55 Yorkie wrote:On February 09 2014 08:54 stuchiu wrote:On February 09 2014 08:46 Yorkie wrote:On February 09 2014 08:44 Shellshock wrote:On February 09 2014 08:44 Yorkie wrote:On February 09 2014 08:43 stuchiu wrote:On February 09 2014 08:40 DarkLordOlli wrote: HerO 0 - 1 viOLet10pool gamble on Frost caught HerO's nexus first 10 POOL IS THE TRUTH Nexus first gamble gets caught by God of all Builds 10 pool. Yeah except it was blind. if HerO had spawned in the bottom left Violet would have lost instantly HerO shouldn't have been so greedy Nexus first isn't insane unorthodox greed. It's pretty standard. Violet gambled on the 50/50 and got it 10 pool isn't an insane coinflip either. Yeah the build isn't, it was just that it was a 4 player map and he only knew that HerO wasn't top right. He ran his lings straight to top left and arrived just before the wall was ready. If HerO had spawned bottom left the lings would've been way too late. That was the coin flip part, not the build Violet needs to learn from me and Curious and drone scout with 10 pool, then its always an instant victory.
He did drone scout D:
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On February 09 2014 08:56 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 08:55 Paljas wrote:On February 09 2014 08:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 09 2014 08:45 Paljas wrote:On February 09 2014 08:44 Yorkie wrote:On February 09 2014 08:43 stuchiu wrote:On February 09 2014 08:40 DarkLordOlli wrote: HerO 0 - 1 viOLet10pool gamble on Frost caught HerO's nexus first 10 POOL IS THE TRUTH Nexus first gamble gets caught by God of all Builds 10 pool. Yeah except it was blind. if HerO had spawned in the bottom left Violet would have lost instantly the nexus first was blind too, no? There's no forge opening as protoss that doesn't put you behind if zerg doesn't early pool. So you might say that protoss always has to gamble a bit vs zerg with the openings. or he could just go gateway first Then viOLet can gamble on a 3hatch before pool (like he did successfully this game).
Doesn't really look very successful atm.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On February 09 2014 08:56 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 08:55 Paljas wrote:On February 09 2014 08:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 09 2014 08:45 Paljas wrote:On February 09 2014 08:44 Yorkie wrote:On February 09 2014 08:43 stuchiu wrote:On February 09 2014 08:40 DarkLordOlli wrote: HerO 0 - 1 viOLet10pool gamble on Frost caught HerO's nexus first 10 POOL IS THE TRUTH Nexus first gamble gets caught by God of all Builds 10 pool. Yeah except it was blind. if HerO had spawned in the bottom left Violet would have lost instantly the nexus first was blind too, no? There's no forge opening as protoss that doesn't put you behind if zerg doesn't early pool. So you might say that protoss always has to gamble a bit vs zerg with the openings. or he could just go gateway first Then viOLet can gamble on a 3hatch before pool (like he did successfully this game).
I've always wondered. Naniwa called Duckdeok a coin flipper, but when he did it himself, he called it mindgames. What is the difference?
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On February 09 2014 08:57 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 08:56 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 09 2014 08:55 Paljas wrote:On February 09 2014 08:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 09 2014 08:45 Paljas wrote:On February 09 2014 08:44 Yorkie wrote:On February 09 2014 08:43 stuchiu wrote:On February 09 2014 08:40 DarkLordOlli wrote: HerO 0 - 1 viOLet10pool gamble on Frost caught HerO's nexus first 10 POOL IS THE TRUTH Nexus first gamble gets caught by God of all Builds 10 pool. Yeah except it was blind. if HerO had spawned in the bottom left Violet would have lost instantly the nexus first was blind too, no? There's no forge opening as protoss that doesn't put you behind if zerg doesn't early pool. So you might say that protoss always has to gamble a bit vs zerg with the openings. or he could just go gateway first Then viOLet can gamble on a 3hatch before pool (like he did successfully this game). I've always wondered. Naniwa called Duckdeok a coin flipper, but when he did it himself, he called it mindgames. What is the difference?
Its a white boy doing it
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