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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
January 24 2014 21:28 GMT
#181
On January 25 2014 06:27 Makro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 06:21 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:17 Boucot wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:15 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:12 stuchiu wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:11 Darkhoarse wrote:
New foreign terran hype train is leaving the station. Get on board before it's too late.


I imagine the foreign terran hype train station is like the Golden Gate Bridge. It looks pretty, but then you learn it has the largest amount of suicides in the world.

To be honest, having lived in San Francisco, 80% of the time it is terrible weather and walking across a heavily trafficked bridge seems fun and scenic until you realize how noisy it is and how much trash people throw out their windows.

Pschhhhh don't crush our dreams

Wait do Europeans actually care at all about American landmarks? I guess we care about European landmarks but I didn't figure that was reciprocated.


maybe too many series/film that show san francisco as a city where every chinese is jacky chan and that the golden gate bridge is seen as every plan :D

The Room is a good movie if you want to see SF.
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ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
January 24 2014 21:28 GMT
#182
On January 25 2014 06:27 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 06:27 ssxsilver wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:25 Wertheron wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:24 ssxsilver wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:22 NovaMB wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:21 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:17 Boucot wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:15 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:12 stuchiu wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:11 Darkhoarse wrote:
New foreign terran hype train is leaving the station. Get on board before it's too late.


I imagine the foreign terran hype train station is like the Golden Gate Bridge. It looks pretty, but then you learn it has the largest amount of suicides in the world.

To be honest, having lived in San Francisco, 80% of the time it is terrible weather and walking across a heavily trafficked bridge seems fun and scenic until you realize how noisy it is and how much trash people throw out their windows.

Pschhhhh don't crush our dreams

Wait do Europeans actually care at all about American landmarks? I guess we care about European landmarks but I didn't figure that was reciprocated.

Empire State Building is great. Other than that I never really cared.

I thought you guys also care about the Statue of Liberty because you're jealous of our freedom.


No we already have one in Paris: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f9/Paris-liberte-eiffel.jpg

Oh my. This is actually news to me lol.

How does it feel, knowing your freedom was made in France?

Well I knew the French gifted it to America, just didn't know there's a duplicate in France =P.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
January 24 2014 21:30 GMT
#183
On January 25 2014 06:23 Wertheron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 06:21 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:17 Boucot wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:15 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:12 stuchiu wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:11 Darkhoarse wrote:
New foreign terran hype train is leaving the station. Get on board before it's too late.


I imagine the foreign terran hype train station is like the Golden Gate Bridge. It looks pretty, but then you learn it has the largest amount of suicides in the world.

To be honest, having lived in San Francisco, 80% of the time it is terrible weather and walking across a heavily trafficked bridge seems fun and scenic until you realize how noisy it is and how much trash people throw out their windows.

Pschhhhh don't crush our dreams

Wait do Europeans actually care at all about American landmarks? I guess we care about European landmarks but I didn't figure that was reciprocated.


Yes we dream about it. Drink a beer with a friend, talk about travel and you are sure a guy will say something like: "I want to see San Francisco", the second: "I prefer East Coast it seems that they are more european than Californian", a third "want to see Vegas/Great canyon/Boston/Niagara Falls" etc etc

Wow that's pretty cool I didn't realize. The places you mentioned are pretty cool I still think our coolest landmark is Mount Rushmore but it's in South Dakota so what the hell else do you do after you see it?
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Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
January 24 2014 21:30 GMT
#184
On January 25 2014 06:27 Makro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 06:21 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:17 Boucot wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:15 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:12 stuchiu wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:11 Darkhoarse wrote:
New foreign terran hype train is leaving the station. Get on board before it's too late.


I imagine the foreign terran hype train station is like the Golden Gate Bridge. It looks pretty, but then you learn it has the largest amount of suicides in the world.

To be honest, having lived in San Francisco, 80% of the time it is terrible weather and walking across a heavily trafficked bridge seems fun and scenic until you realize how noisy it is and how much trash people throw out their windows.

Pschhhhh don't crush our dreams

Wait do Europeans actually care at all about American landmarks? I guess we care about European landmarks but I didn't figure that was reciprocated.


maybe too many series/film that show san francisco as a city where every chinese is jacky chan and that the golden gate bridge is seen as every plan :D

Just like you can always see the Eiffel Tower outside the window when the movie takes place in Paris
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
January 24 2014 21:30 GMT
#185
On January 25 2014 06:28 ssxsilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 06:27 NovaMB wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:27 ssxsilver wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:25 Wertheron wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:24 ssxsilver wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:22 NovaMB wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:21 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:17 Boucot wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:15 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:12 stuchiu wrote:
[quote]

I imagine the foreign terran hype train station is like the Golden Gate Bridge. It looks pretty, but then you learn it has the largest amount of suicides in the world.

To be honest, having lived in San Francisco, 80% of the time it is terrible weather and walking across a heavily trafficked bridge seems fun and scenic until you realize how noisy it is and how much trash people throw out their windows.

Pschhhhh don't crush our dreams

Wait do Europeans actually care at all about American landmarks? I guess we care about European landmarks but I didn't figure that was reciprocated.

Empire State Building is great. Other than that I never really cared.

I thought you guys also care about the Statue of Liberty because you're jealous of our freedom.


No we already have one in Paris: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f9/Paris-liberte-eiffel.jpg

Oh my. This is actually news to me lol.

How does it feel, knowing your freedom was made in France?

Well I knew the French gifted it to America, just didn't know there's a duplicate in France =P.

No we gave you the duplicate, we're not that dumb.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
January 24 2014 21:30 GMT
#186
On January 25 2014 06:27 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 06:27 ssxsilver wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:25 Wertheron wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:24 ssxsilver wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:22 NovaMB wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:21 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:17 Boucot wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:15 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:12 stuchiu wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:11 Darkhoarse wrote:
New foreign terran hype train is leaving the station. Get on board before it's too late.


I imagine the foreign terran hype train station is like the Golden Gate Bridge. It looks pretty, but then you learn it has the largest amount of suicides in the world.

To be honest, having lived in San Francisco, 80% of the time it is terrible weather and walking across a heavily trafficked bridge seems fun and scenic until you realize how noisy it is and how much trash people throw out their windows.

Pschhhhh don't crush our dreams

Wait do Europeans actually care at all about American landmarks? I guess we care about European landmarks but I didn't figure that was reciprocated.

Empire State Building is great. Other than that I never really cared.

I thought you guys also care about the Statue of Liberty because you're jealous of our freedom.


No we already have one in Paris: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f9/Paris-liberte-eiffel.jpg

Oh my. This is actually news to me lol.

How does it feel, knowing your freedom was made in France?


About as good as knowing our cars are made in Germany or Japan.
Moderator
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32748 Posts
January 24 2014 21:31 GMT
#187
HyuN's name translates to "Simon is a son of a bitch" hahaha.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
January 24 2014 21:31 GMT
#188
On January 25 2014 06:30 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 06:23 Wertheron wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:21 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:17 Boucot wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:15 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:12 stuchiu wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:11 Darkhoarse wrote:
New foreign terran hype train is leaving the station. Get on board before it's too late.


I imagine the foreign terran hype train station is like the Golden Gate Bridge. It looks pretty, but then you learn it has the largest amount of suicides in the world.

To be honest, having lived in San Francisco, 80% of the time it is terrible weather and walking across a heavily trafficked bridge seems fun and scenic until you realize how noisy it is and how much trash people throw out their windows.

Pschhhhh don't crush our dreams

Wait do Europeans actually care at all about American landmarks? I guess we care about European landmarks but I didn't figure that was reciprocated.


Yes we dream about it. Drink a beer with a friend, talk about travel and you are sure a guy will say something like: "I want to see San Francisco", the second: "I prefer East Coast it seems that they are more european than Californian", a third "want to see Vegas/Great canyon/Boston/Niagara Falls" etc etc

Wow that's pretty cool I didn't realize. The places you mentioned are pretty cool I still think our coolest landmark is Mount Rushmore but it's in South Dakota so what the hell else do you do after you see it?

I was going to say go across the border for some cheese, but Minnesota is in the way.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
January 24 2014 21:31 GMT
#189
On January 25 2014 06:30 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 06:27 NovaMB wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:27 ssxsilver wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:25 Wertheron wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:24 ssxsilver wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:22 NovaMB wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:21 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:17 Boucot wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:15 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:12 stuchiu wrote:
[quote]

I imagine the foreign terran hype train station is like the Golden Gate Bridge. It looks pretty, but then you learn it has the largest amount of suicides in the world.

To be honest, having lived in San Francisco, 80% of the time it is terrible weather and walking across a heavily trafficked bridge seems fun and scenic until you realize how noisy it is and how much trash people throw out their windows.

Pschhhhh don't crush our dreams

Wait do Europeans actually care at all about American landmarks? I guess we care about European landmarks but I didn't figure that was reciprocated.

Empire State Building is great. Other than that I never really cared.

I thought you guys also care about the Statue of Liberty because you're jealous of our freedom.


No we already have one in Paris: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f9/Paris-liberte-eiffel.jpg

Oh my. This is actually news to me lol.

How does it feel, knowing your freedom was made in France?


About as good as knowing our cars are made in Germany or Japan.

Most of our cars are made in the US, just by foreign companies
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
January 24 2014 21:32 GMT
#190
On January 25 2014 06:31 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 06:30 stuchiu wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:27 NovaMB wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:27 ssxsilver wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:25 Wertheron wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:24 ssxsilver wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:22 NovaMB wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:21 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:17 Boucot wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:15 Darkhoarse wrote:
[quote]
To be honest, having lived in San Francisco, 80% of the time it is terrible weather and walking across a heavily trafficked bridge seems fun and scenic until you realize how noisy it is and how much trash people throw out their windows.

Pschhhhh don't crush our dreams

Wait do Europeans actually care at all about American landmarks? I guess we care about European landmarks but I didn't figure that was reciprocated.

Empire State Building is great. Other than that I never really cared.

I thought you guys also care about the Statue of Liberty because you're jealous of our freedom.


No we already have one in Paris: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f9/Paris-liberte-eiffel.jpg

Oh my. This is actually news to me lol.

How does it feel, knowing your freedom was made in France?


About as good as knowing our cars are made in Germany or Japan.

Most of our cars are made in the US, just by foreign companies


Damn, fine. About as good as knowing China owns our national debt.
Moderator
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
January 24 2014 21:32 GMT
#191
On January 25 2014 06:30 Serinox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 06:27 Makro wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:21 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:17 Boucot wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:15 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:12 stuchiu wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:11 Darkhoarse wrote:
New foreign terran hype train is leaving the station. Get on board before it's too late.


I imagine the foreign terran hype train station is like the Golden Gate Bridge. It looks pretty, but then you learn it has the largest amount of suicides in the world.

To be honest, having lived in San Francisco, 80% of the time it is terrible weather and walking across a heavily trafficked bridge seems fun and scenic until you realize how noisy it is and how much trash people throw out their windows.

Pschhhhh don't crush our dreams

Wait do Europeans actually care at all about American landmarks? I guess we care about European landmarks but I didn't figure that was reciprocated.


maybe too many series/film that show san francisco as a city where every chinese is jacky chan and that the golden gate bridge is seen as every plan :D

Just like you can always see the Eiffel Tower outside the window when the movie takes place in Paris


it's awesome because there is a thing like this in armageddon where you can see the eiffel tower from a certain point of view of the cathedrale notre dame that is impossible in real life
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
January 24 2014 21:33 GMT
#192
On January 25 2014 06:30 Serinox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 06:27 Makro wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:21 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:17 Boucot wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:15 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:12 stuchiu wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:11 Darkhoarse wrote:
New foreign terran hype train is leaving the station. Get on board before it's too late.


I imagine the foreign terran hype train station is like the Golden Gate Bridge. It looks pretty, but then you learn it has the largest amount of suicides in the world.

To be honest, having lived in San Francisco, 80% of the time it is terrible weather and walking across a heavily trafficked bridge seems fun and scenic until you realize how noisy it is and how much trash people throw out their windows.

Pschhhhh don't crush our dreams

Wait do Europeans actually care at all about American landmarks? I guess we care about European landmarks but I didn't figure that was reciprocated.


maybe too many series/film that show san francisco as a city where every chinese is jacky chan and that the golden gate bridge is seen as every plan :D

Just like you can always see the Eiffel Tower outside the window when the movie takes place in Paris

Hey I actually see the Sacré-Coeur from my window :D
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
January 24 2014 21:34 GMT
#193
MMA is pretty good.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
January 24 2014 21:35 GMT
#194
On January 25 2014 06:32 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 06:31 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:30 stuchiu wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:27 NovaMB wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:27 ssxsilver wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:25 Wertheron wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:24 ssxsilver wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:22 NovaMB wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:21 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:17 Boucot wrote:
[quote]
Pschhhhh don't crush our dreams

Wait do Europeans actually care at all about American landmarks? I guess we care about European landmarks but I didn't figure that was reciprocated.

Empire State Building is great. Other than that I never really cared.

I thought you guys also care about the Statue of Liberty because you're jealous of our freedom.


No we already have one in Paris: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f9/Paris-liberte-eiffel.jpg

Oh my. This is actually news to me lol.

How does it feel, knowing your freedom was made in France?


About as good as knowing our cars are made in Germany or Japan.

Most of our cars are made in the US, just by foreign companies


Damn, fine. About as good as knowing China owns our national debt.

MOST OF OUR DEBT IS OWNED BY US CITIZENS SON

China owns roughly 7.5% of the United States' total debt
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
January 24 2014 21:35 GMT
#195
On January 25 2014 06:35 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 06:32 stuchiu wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:31 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:30 stuchiu wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:27 NovaMB wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:27 ssxsilver wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:25 Wertheron wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:24 ssxsilver wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:22 NovaMB wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:21 Darkhoarse wrote:
[quote]
Wait do Europeans actually care at all about American landmarks? I guess we care about European landmarks but I didn't figure that was reciprocated.

Empire State Building is great. Other than that I never really cared.

I thought you guys also care about the Statue of Liberty because you're jealous of our freedom.


No we already have one in Paris: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f9/Paris-liberte-eiffel.jpg

Oh my. This is actually news to me lol.

How does it feel, knowing your freedom was made in France?


About as good as knowing our cars are made in Germany or Japan.

Most of our cars are made in the US, just by foreign companies


Damn, fine. About as good as knowing China owns our national debt.

MOST OF OUR DEBT IS OWNED BY US CITIZENS SON

China owns roughly 7.5% of the United States' total debt


7.5 is a pretty large amount.
Moderator
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32748 Posts
January 24 2014 21:36 GMT
#196
On January 25 2014 06:35 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 06:32 stuchiu wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:31 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:30 stuchiu wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:27 NovaMB wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:27 ssxsilver wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:25 Wertheron wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:24 ssxsilver wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:22 NovaMB wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:21 Darkhoarse wrote:
[quote]
Wait do Europeans actually care at all about American landmarks? I guess we care about European landmarks but I didn't figure that was reciprocated.

Empire State Building is great. Other than that I never really cared.

I thought you guys also care about the Statue of Liberty because you're jealous of our freedom.


No we already have one in Paris: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f9/Paris-liberte-eiffel.jpg

Oh my. This is actually news to me lol.

How does it feel, knowing your freedom was made in France?


About as good as knowing our cars are made in Germany or Japan.

Most of our cars are made in the US, just by foreign companies


Damn, fine. About as good as knowing China owns our national debt.

MOST OF OUR DEBT IS OWNED BY US CITIZENS SON

China owns roughly 7.5% of the United States' total debt

No worries, America will never be financially controlled by the communists, just American citizens!
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
January 24 2014 21:36 GMT
#197
What in the world happen to Hyun's supply lol? I wasn't paying attention...
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
January 24 2014 21:36 GMT
#198
On January 25 2014 06:35 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 06:35 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:32 stuchiu wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:31 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:30 stuchiu wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:27 NovaMB wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:27 ssxsilver wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:25 Wertheron wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:24 ssxsilver wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:22 NovaMB wrote:
[quote]
Empire State Building is great. Other than that I never really cared.

I thought you guys also care about the Statue of Liberty because you're jealous of our freedom.


No we already have one in Paris: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f9/Paris-liberte-eiffel.jpg

Oh my. This is actually news to me lol.

How does it feel, knowing your freedom was made in France?


About as good as knowing our cars are made in Germany or Japan.

Most of our cars are made in the US, just by foreign companies


Damn, fine. About as good as knowing China owns our national debt.

MOST OF OUR DEBT IS OWNED BY US CITIZENS SON

China owns roughly 7.5% of the United States' total debt


7.5 is a pretty large amount.

Yeah it's like 1.2 trillion or something.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
January 24 2014 21:36 GMT
#199
On January 25 2014 06:32 Makro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 06:30 Serinox wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:27 Makro wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:21 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:17 Boucot wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:15 Darkhoarse wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:12 stuchiu wrote:
On January 25 2014 06:11 Darkhoarse wrote:
New foreign terran hype train is leaving the station. Get on board before it's too late.


I imagine the foreign terran hype train station is like the Golden Gate Bridge. It looks pretty, but then you learn it has the largest amount of suicides in the world.

To be honest, having lived in San Francisco, 80% of the time it is terrible weather and walking across a heavily trafficked bridge seems fun and scenic until you realize how noisy it is and how much trash people throw out their windows.

Pschhhhh don't crush our dreams

Wait do Europeans actually care at all about American landmarks? I guess we care about European landmarks but I didn't figure that was reciprocated.


maybe too many series/film that show san francisco as a city where every chinese is jacky chan and that the golden gate bridge is seen as every plan :D

Just like you can always see the Eiffel Tower outside the window when the movie takes place in Paris


it's awesome because there is a thing like this in armageddon where you can see the eiffel tower from a certain point of view of the cathedrale notre dame that is impossible in real life


Wait, are you telling me that some of the stuff shown in Armageddon is not accurate?
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
hipo
Profile Joined November 2010
France482 Posts
January 24 2014 21:36 GMT
#200
Outch, MMA is destroying Hyun...
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