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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
the margin of victory in the ace match was truely razor-thin. losing one of the PFs instead of having them survive with <100hp or sucking up that last fungal on the viking clump could have meant game. i also like flash's entertaining, aggressive style of mech. too bad his tvp still sucks... one thing we must admit though is that flash was massively benefitting from the maps in both games. im sure that style of mech wont work on all maps. but maybe he can mech it happen everywhere over time... | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On January 19 2014 22:52 boxerfred wrote: And this is why I hate David Kim. Instantly buffing mech instead of waiting for the meta game to develop just saw zerg's lategame air being basically useless vs. 3/3. This is not a balance whine, I'm pretty sure DRG made too many mistakes/Flash played really stellar, but a huge complain about David Kim. User was warned for this post oh wow | ||
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tozi
United States506 Posts
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
I don't know man I think we can do well enough without the toxic David Kim bashing that's become so popular lately | ||
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PanzerElite
540 Posts
On January 20 2014 06:43 forsooth wrote: Why would you want to watch a bunch of silly mines randomly going off and marines running around like ants on crack when you could watch the glory of Terran metal slowly crushing the life out of disgusting aliens? Bomber style mass marines on crack is far more entertaining than 40 minutes of deathball vs deathball. | ||
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
On January 19 2014 21:49 gingerfluffmuff wrote: You mean when we had Dual Sight still in the pool? You didn't watch your teams mascot get destroyed by drg in the gsl did you? Oh well, keep making silly assumptions I guess. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On January 20 2014 08:09 bo1b wrote: You didn't watch your teams mascot get destroyed by drg in the gsl did you? Oh well, keep making silly assumptions I guess. DRG's zvt is good cause he won vs innovation in the gsl? I mean his stats since Hots aren't really that great | ||
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
On January 20 2014 08:21 The_Red_Viper wrote: DRG's zvt is good cause he won vs innovation in the gsl? I mean his stats since Hots aren't really that great His zvt is good because it's really fucking good? Before the widowmine nerf he was one of one people who had beaten innovation in straight up macro games without some massive melt down happening in innovation. Who gives a shit about the stats of a drg that was playing like dogshit until a few months ago? W/e, he does himself no favors when he goes out and 6pools a terran etc. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On January 20 2014 08:24 bo1b wrote: His zvt is good because it's really fucking good? Before the widowmine nerf he was one of one people who had beaten innovation in straight up macro games without some massive melt down happening in innovation. Who gives a shit about the stats of a drg that was playing like dogshit until a few months ago? W/e, he does himself no favors when he goes out and 6pools a terran etc. Mhm if we only pick the games we like i think every zerg has good zvt, drg is mediocre, deal with it | ||
opterown
Australia54785 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On January 20 2014 08:32 opterown wrote: eh I think DRG zvt is pretty good I wonder why you guys think he is that good versus terran, he won vs innovation and then everybody was like "wow drg is back!!!", no he isn't. If his zvt is really that good he would not 6 pool vs maru, but yeah. I think his zvt is overhyped as fuck cause of one match vs innovation... | ||
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
On January 20 2014 08:08 PanzerElite wrote: Bomber style mass marines on crack is far more entertaining than 40 minutes of deathball vs deathball. I've watched a number of mech TvZ games lately, not a single Terran has played deathball style on the ground. | ||
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SpunXtain20
Australia554 Posts
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
On January 20 2014 08:36 The_Red_Viper wrote: I wonder why you guys think he is that good versus terran, he won vs innovation and then everybody was like "wow drg is back!!!", no he isn't. If his zvt is really that good he would not 6 pool vs maru, but yeah. I think his zvt is overhyped as fuck cause of one match vs innovation... You think it's possible to play a bo3 vs innovation with three incredible games and not have good zvt? "Maybe he just fluked it for 90 minutes," yeah right. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On January 20 2014 08:51 bo1b wrote: You think it's possible to play a bo3 vs innovation with three incredible games and not have good zvt? "Maybe he just fluked it for 90 minutes," yeah right. Whatever, think what you want, in 3 days we might see if he is really that good | ||
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opterown
Australia54785 Posts
On January 20 2014 08:36 The_Red_Viper wrote: I wonder why you guys think he is that good versus terran, he won vs innovation and then everybody was like "wow drg is back!!!", no he isn't. If his zvt is really that good he would not 6 pool vs maru, but yeah. I think his zvt is overhyped as fuck cause of one match vs innovation... maru is known to play greedy at times, a choice of 6pool means nothing. before that maru game, DRG had won his last 9 zvt series, nothing to be sneezed at | ||
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SpunXtain20
Australia554 Posts
On January 20 2014 08:55 The_Red_Viper wrote: Whatever, think what you want, in 3 days we might see if he is really that good DRG is one of the best ZvT players on the planet. Your logic 'he 6pooled maru' doesn't mean shit mate - if he thinks Maru thinks he is good at ZvT, Maru might try and get an eco advantage by 15cc builds. DRG banked on the fact he would do that and went for an early rush to counter it - unfortunately it didn't pay off. Like it or not, basically all pro players have to cheese occassionally to keep a credible threat and unpredictability in their play. If you *know* a player will never cheese you, you can abuse that fact by either cheesing them, or getting an eco lead every game. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On January 20 2014 09:11 SpunXtain20 wrote: DRG is one of the best ZvT players on the planet. Your logic 'he 6pooled maru' doesn't mean shit mate - if he thinks Maru thinks he is good at ZvT, Maru might try and get an eco advantage by 15cc builds. DRG banked on the fact he would do that and went for an early rush to counter it - unfortunately it didn't pay off. Like it or not, basically all pro players have to cheese occassionally to keep a credible threat and unpredictability in their play. If you *know* a player will never cheese you, you can abuse that fact by either cheesing them, or getting an eco lead every game. I just think it is funny that pretty much everytime someone doubts drg's zvt, the only reason people seem to think he is that good is ONE match vs innovation. Maybe i am dead wrong, but i at least don't value someone cause of one match, and a lot of people did ("drg is back!!!") | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12071 Posts
On January 20 2014 08:08 PanzerElite wrote: Bomber style mass marines on crack is far more entertaining than 40 minutes of deathball vs deathball. Yeah I'm sure it is, but I got fed up of watching the same game over and over again about a year ago. Only having one style being viable was killing the game despite how entertaining you thought it was. It was always deathball vs deathball it's just with bio it looks smaller despite being just as bad. Flash's mech today was some of the most entertaining games I've seen in SC2 in over a year and I've pretty much stopped watching SC2 now apart from his and Fantasy's games for the reasons I listed above. After playing nothing but mech since WoL's release up until about 6 months ago I quit playing just before the tank buff and I can safely say I'm very glad it made a difference. It's nice seeing that a small amount of tanks can actually hold a base long enough for reinforcements to get there as that's a massive thing that was missing from SC2 when I was playing, tanks were so bad that you had to bunch everything in one big group and hope you didn't die. Seeing defenders advantage is very promising. | ||
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SpunXtain20
Australia554 Posts
On January 20 2014 09:17 The_Red_Viper wrote: I just think it is funny that pretty much everytime someone doubts drg's zvt, the only reason people seem to think he is that good is ONE match vs innovation. Maybe i am dead wrong, but i at least don't value someone cause of one match, and a lot of people did ("drg is back!!!") "...but i at least don't value someone cause of one match..." - The_Red_Viper, 2014. "If his zvt is really that good he would not 6 pool vs maru, but yeah." - The_Red_Viper, 2014. | ||
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