• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:27
CEST 22:27
KST 05:27
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway52v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature2Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy8uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event17Serral wins EWC 202549
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple6SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments7[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10
StarCraft 2
General
#1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread 2v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature Is there a way to see if 2 accounts=1 person? uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments SEL Masters #5 - Korea vs Russia (SC Evo) Enki Epic Series #5 - TaeJa vs Classic (SC Evo)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 487 Think Fast Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion [ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway ASL 20 HYPE VIDEO! How do the new Battle.net ranks translate? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
BWCL Season 63 Announcement Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches KCM 2025 Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI The year 2050
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Biochemical Cost of Gami…
TrAiDoS
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1526 users

[SPL] SKT T1 vs KT - Round 1 2014 - Page 20

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 18 19 20 21 22 47 Next All
Pyloss
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1515 Posts
January 12 2014 12:15 GMT
#381
Now i would like the P to win.
<3 sOs, Parting, Mana, Honor, TaKe, Mcanning<3
THELEHGOTERRAN
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1837 Posts
January 12 2014 12:16 GMT
#382
That third was unkillable but that will be fixed by the metagame eventually

What really soured me was losing significant army units at that third
IMMVP // HIKARU NAKAMURA // DEREK JETER // GARETH BALE
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
January 12 2014 12:16 GMT
#383
On January 12 2014 21:15 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 21:11 FFW_Rude wrote:
On January 12 2014 21:09 Swiipii wrote:
On January 12 2014 21:08 FFW_Rude wrote:
On January 12 2014 21:07 ionONE wrote:
completely outplayed? lol at sc2


Yes. Completly outplay. Scout fast third base. Don't punish and stay on 2base.

You can't punish. The Protoss expects you to come out and deny the third so his gate units wreck you.


Oh come on.. You scout fast third and you don't move out or take a fast 3rd on your own ?


you die vs mass gateway units with a fast 3rd. You just need to capitalize on upg and do some risky dropping.


Damn i'm really bad with my terran vs protoss knowledge nowadays Thanks for the clarification people.
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
January 12 2014 12:16 GMT
#384
Just got back to watching SC seriously again so I have a question. Who is the best player on SKT currently?
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
January 12 2014 12:16 GMT
#385
On January 12 2014 21:16 Wildmoon wrote:
Just got back to watching SC seriously again so I have a question. Who is the best player on SKT currently?

parting most likely
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
January 12 2014 12:16 GMT
#386
On January 12 2014 21:16 Wildmoon wrote:
Just got back to watching SC seriously again so I have a question. Who is the best player on SKT currently?


They have lots of good players
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
January 12 2014 12:17 GMT
#387
On January 12 2014 21:16 Wildmoon wrote:
Just got back to watching SC seriously again so I have a question. Who is the best player on SKT currently?


It's crowded at the top with Parting, Rain and Soulkey all being serious contenders for the spot.
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
January 12 2014 12:17 GMT
#388
On January 12 2014 21:13 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 21:12 Teoita wrote:
On January 12 2014 21:11 FFW_Rude wrote:
On January 12 2014 21:09 Swiipii wrote:
On January 12 2014 21:08 FFW_Rude wrote:
On January 12 2014 21:07 ionONE wrote:
completely outplayed? lol at sc2


Yes. Completly outplay. Scout fast third base. Don't punish and stay on 2base.

You can't punish. The Protoss expects you to come out and deny the third so his gate units wreck you.


Oh come on.. You scout fast third and you don't move out or take a fast 3rd on your own ?


He couldnt move out and instead decided to go 5rax before 3rd cc to do tons of damage off two bases. That's viable because the toss' aoe will be pretty late, but giving away those initial units at his third pretty much made his aggression useless.


From what i've seen Flash does not go really fast 3rd this day I would have love him to put his 3rd the time he scouted the 3rd of parting


He couldn't get a fast 3rd because of the threat of Oracles and blink all-in, he was forced to get the follow up 2 rax because he saw the masses of GWs, and even if he hadn't lost his initial force, he wouldn't have had enough to break the 3rd, because of the masses of GW and PO. Basically it was sort of a build order win, every choice Flash would have made would have been a bad one.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
January 12 2014 12:17 GMT
#389
Next time flash will go fast expand, 1 banshee, fast third and destroy that P going for an aggressive 2 base build
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-12 12:19:15
January 12 2014 12:17 GMT
#390
On January 12 2014 21:13 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 21:12 Teoita wrote:
On January 12 2014 21:11 FFW_Rude wrote:
On January 12 2014 21:09 Swiipii wrote:
On January 12 2014 21:08 FFW_Rude wrote:
On January 12 2014 21:07 ionONE wrote:
completely outplayed? lol at sc2


Yes. Completly outplay. Scout fast third base. Don't punish and stay on 2base.

You can't punish. The Protoss expects you to come out and deny the third so his gate units wreck you.


Oh come on.. You scout fast third and you don't move out or take a fast 3rd on your own ?


He couldnt move out and instead decided to go 5rax before 3rd cc to do tons of damage off two bases. That's viable because the toss' aoe will be pretty late, but giving away those initial units at his third pretty much made his aggression useless.


From what i've seen Flash does not go really fast 3rd this day I would have love him to put his 3rd the time he scouted the 3rd of parting


then he dies even more stupidly. He chose an anti blink build, Parting being more intelligent than your average T just capitalized on it instead of playing in Flash's hands, insta bo advantage that is as close as a bo win that you can get.

Every P just played in T hands so far, took a while before they realized their all in were countered before the game begun considering the builds T have been playing.
Zest fanboy.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
January 12 2014 12:18 GMT
#391
On January 12 2014 21:16 Wildmoon wrote:
Just got back to watching SC seriously again so I have a question. Who is the best player on SKT currently?


Parting or Soulkey I'd say. Rain and soO are also very strong.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
January 12 2014 12:18 GMT
#392
On January 12 2014 21:13 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 21:12 Teoita wrote:
On January 12 2014 21:11 FFW_Rude wrote:
On January 12 2014 21:09 Swiipii wrote:
On January 12 2014 21:08 FFW_Rude wrote:
On January 12 2014 21:07 ionONE wrote:
completely outplayed? lol at sc2


Yes. Completly outplay. Scout fast third base. Don't punish and stay on 2base.

You can't punish. The Protoss expects you to come out and deny the third so his gate units wreck you.


Oh come on.. You scout fast third and you don't move out or take a fast 3rd on your own ?


He couldnt move out and instead decided to go 5rax before 3rd cc to do tons of damage off two bases. That's viable because the toss' aoe will be pretty late, but giving away those initial units at his third pretty much made his aggression useless.


From what i've seen Flash does not go really fast 3rd this day I would have love him to put his 3rd the time he scouted the 3rd of parting

Building your third passively after Protoss' third means you lose as well, either to a massive Gateway timing or simply because you can't inflict any kind of damage with your lower unit count and thus Protoss develops freely and steamrolls you later.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
January 12 2014 12:18 GMT
#393
On January 12 2014 21:16 Wildmoon wrote:
Just got back to watching SC seriously again so I have a question. Who is the best player on SKT currently?

That's really hard to answer, since Soulkey, Rain and Parting all are pretty much ace caliber
Which is one of the reasons that tehy are the favorites to take the season by far.
Get off my lawn, young punks
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
January 12 2014 12:18 GMT
#394
I'm pretty amazed that people here seriously believe that getting a fast third off of an Oracle opening is somehow a build order win in PvT.
Glorfindel!
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1815 Posts
January 12 2014 12:18 GMT
#395
On January 12 2014 21:10 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 21:08 Mintie wrote:
wow, Parting looking really dominant. Flash's build is really really safe - I wonder if the opening means that he can't punish that early 3rd base at all? Regardless, Parting played really well.


It does. Parting accepted he'd be down in upgrades but was able to power up his gate count because of it.

Flash always gets a sick fast ebay to have 1/1 with his medivac pressure and turrets in time for oracles or dt's, but his unit count in the early/midgame is crazy low until medivacs are out. Parting just scouted that with his oracle and responded perfectly.


Its a bit funny you start talking about balance with something like this,
then when someone says "well maybe that doesnt make sence" you tell everyone to cut balance talk.

Looks a bit bad to start a "balance discussion" by adding your own thought and when someone tells something else you say "cut the talking" Almost like you are allmighty and what you say is correct. If anyone claims anything else, you mod them?

Ehh..
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/598681/1/Glorfindel/ladder/161337#current-rank
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
January 12 2014 12:18 GMT
#396
On January 12 2014 21:16 Wildmoon wrote:
Just got back to watching SC seriously again so I have a question. Who is the best player on SKT currently?

Probably PartinG or Soulkey. But Rain is also a beast. And soO is pretty good as well. SKT is the best team in the world atm., it is hard to single one player out of that line-up.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-12 12:19:34
January 12 2014 12:18 GMT
#397
On January 12 2014 21:17 Destructicon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 21:13 FFW_Rude wrote:
On January 12 2014 21:12 Teoita wrote:
On January 12 2014 21:11 FFW_Rude wrote:
On January 12 2014 21:09 Swiipii wrote:
On January 12 2014 21:08 FFW_Rude wrote:
On January 12 2014 21:07 ionONE wrote:
completely outplayed? lol at sc2


Yes. Completly outplay. Scout fast third base. Don't punish and stay on 2base.

You can't punish. The Protoss expects you to come out and deny the third so his gate units wreck you.


Oh come on.. You scout fast third and you don't move out or take a fast 3rd on your own ?


He couldnt move out and instead decided to go 5rax before 3rd cc to do tons of damage off two bases. That's viable because the toss' aoe will be pretty late, but giving away those initial units at his third pretty much made his aggression useless.


From what i've seen Flash does not go really fast 3rd this day I would have love him to put his 3rd the time he scouted the 3rd of parting


He couldn't get a fast 3rd because of the threat of Oracles and blink all-in, he was forced to get the follow up 2 rax because he saw the masses of GWs, and even if he hadn't lost his initial force, he wouldn't have had enough to break the 3rd, because of the masses of GW and PO. Basically it was sort of a build order win, every choice Flash would have made would have been a bad one.


REALLY BAD knowledge damn it. I didn't even understood that Been too long i watched seriously SC2.

Again. Thanks to all of you for explaining.
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Taipoka
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1224 Posts
January 12 2014 12:18 GMT
#398
On January 12 2014 21:16 Wildmoon wrote:
Just got back to watching SC seriously again so I have a question. Who is the best player on SKT currently?

All of them.
And in the 7th day, Flash stopped macroing the universe.
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
January 12 2014 12:18 GMT
#399
I'm glad Protoss started to play properly vs T again this week. :p
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
4Servy
Profile Joined August 2008
Netherlands1542 Posts
January 12 2014 12:18 GMT
#400
On January 12 2014 21:13 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 21:12 Teoita wrote:
On January 12 2014 21:11 FFW_Rude wrote:
On January 12 2014 21:09 Swiipii wrote:
On January 12 2014 21:08 FFW_Rude wrote:
On January 12 2014 21:07 ionONE wrote:
completely outplayed? lol at sc2


Yes. Completly outplay. Scout fast third base. Don't punish and stay on 2base.

You can't punish. The Protoss expects you to come out and deny the third so his gate units wreck you.


Oh come on.. You scout fast third and you don't move out or take a fast 3rd on your own ?


He couldnt move out and instead decided to go 5rax before 3rd cc to do tons of damage off two bases. That's viable because the toss' aoe will be pretty late, but giving away those initial units at his third pretty much made his aggression useless.


From what i've seen Flash does not go really fast 3rd this day I would have love him to put his 3rd the time he scouted the 3rd of parting

You will have to hold your third base with 3 rax against time warp blinker stalkers from 8 gates on a map where its hard to get good engagements.
Prev 1 18 19 20 21 22 47 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL Team Wars
19:00
Round 3
Team Dewalt vs Team Bonyth
LiquipediaDiscussion
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
15:00
Playoffs Day 2
uThermal1487
IndyStarCraft 434
SteadfastSC342
Rex58
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
uThermal 1487
IndyStarCraft 434
SteadfastSC 342
ProTech108
CosmosSc2 89
Rex 58
Vindicta 15
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 21453
Calm 2750
Rain 1753
ZZZero.O 103
ggaemo 97
ToSsGirL 46
NaDa 32
SilentControl 4
Dota 2
syndereN61
NeuroSwarm13
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 237
Reynor59
Counter-Strike
fl0m2180
ScreaM2111
Stewie2K486
Heroes of the Storm
Grubby3041
Liquid`Hasu804
Khaldor459
Other Games
FrodaN1419
B2W.Neo1128
Mlord396
RotterdaM287
PiGStarcraft221
KnowMe153
ViBE72
JuggernautJason22
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1594
StarCraft 2
angryscii 42
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta25
• musti20045 25
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• sM.Zik 1
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21772
• WagamamaTV507
League of Legends
• Doublelift2790
Counter-Strike
• imaqtpie1028
• Shiphtur199
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
13h 33m
Sharp vs Ample
Larva vs Stork
Wardi Open
18h 33m
RotterdaM Event
19h 33m
Replay Cast
1d 3h
Replay Cast
1d 13h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 13h
JyJ vs TY
Bisu vs Speed
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 14h
PiGosaur Monday
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Mini vs TBD
Soma vs sSak
WardiTV Summer Champion…
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
LiuLi Cup
4 days
BSL Team Wars
4 days
Team Hawk vs Team Dewalt
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
SC Evo League
5 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
5 days
[BSL 2025] Weekly
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
SC Evo League
6 days
BSL Team Wars
6 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Sziky
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-08-13
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 1
CSLAN 3
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.