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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 19 2013 13:28 GMT
#401
On December 19 2013 22:00 SmoNKa wrote:
Did you know NaNiwa's worst matchup historically is PvZ?
http://aligulac.com/players/89-NaNiwa/
His stats are exactly the opposite of what I expected them to be.

Filter out WoL for relevance
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Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-19 14:10:37
December 19 2013 14:08 GMT
#402
On December 19 2013 21:15 havok55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
Poll: Who takes it?
Scarlett (1242)
50%
Naniwa (1242)
50%
2484 total votes


Damn...

Also if the winner holds onto the bitcoins and by some crazy act of god its values goes up x1000 or more (again), this could be the biggest prize pool not just for a SC2 showmatch, but of any tournament... of any sport.


Bitcoin is already immensely overvalued. In recent days it's worth has plunged almost 50% from it's peak to 600$ or so.
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
December 19 2013 14:15 GMT
#403
This is gonna be great. Can't wait to see how the community reacts to whoever takes the showmatch.
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
December 19 2013 14:35 GMT
#404
This is going to be highly contested. At least the poll says Teamliquid thinks so :D
Prugelhugel
Profile Joined February 2012
Austria637 Posts
December 19 2013 14:35 GMT
#405
I am just curious, how does Naniwa feel regarding Scarlett?
I mean, will we see...
a) trashtalk (he respects her but thinks he's better)
b) bm (he doesn't respect her and thinks he's better)
c) proberush (he knows he is worse)

+ Show Spoiler +
Haha, just a joke comment, Naniwa is cool and I suppose he is a pretty nice guy beneath his Jaedong like attitude regarding tourneys.^^


I hope they hurry with the tournament because since it's bitcoin we could possibly end seeing a Bo7 of the two best foreigners for a total of 12$. Would be fun nonetheless though. :D
"This map definitly needs more rocks" - No SC2 player ever
Soke
Profile Joined September 2012
United States790 Posts
December 19 2013 14:52 GMT
#406
I don't want to get anyone's hopes up, since there is still two days to go, but the bitcoin has made a rebound in a big way and is currently values at $697.50 (It has an up trend!) and $697.50 * 14 = $9,765. There is a lot of fluctuation, so we will see in two days.
Djsoke
blackone
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1314 Posts
December 19 2013 15:54 GMT
#407
On December 19 2013 21:15 havok55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
Poll: Who takes it?
Scarlett (1242)
50%
Naniwa (1242)
50%
2484 total votes


Damn...

Also if the winner holds onto the bitcoins and by some crazy act of god its values goes up x1000 or more (again), this could be the biggest prize pool not just for a SC2 showmatch, but of any tournament... of any sport.


No, it wouldn't. The prize for the match is 14 bitcoins. The value of this tournaments prize in USD is whatever 14 bitcoins are worth when they get sent to the winner. Not what they were worth or will be worth at some point in the past or future.
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10342 Posts
December 19 2013 16:17 GMT
#408
On December 19 2013 21:15 havok55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
Poll: Who takes it?
Scarlett (1242)
50%
Naniwa (1242)
50%
2484 total votes


Damn...

Also if the winner holds onto the bitcoins and by some crazy act of god its values goes up x1000 or more (again), this could be the biggest prize pool not just for a SC2 showmatch, but of any tournament... of any sport.


By that logic, this is not even close. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/AoV_iCCup_StarLeague#Prizes
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
December 19 2013 16:29 GMT
#409
On December 20 2013 01:17 R1CH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2013 21:15 havok55 wrote:
Poll: Who takes it?
Scarlett (1242)
50%
Naniwa (1242)
50%
2484 total votes


Damn...

Also if the winner holds onto the bitcoins and by some crazy act of god its values goes up x1000 or more (again), this could be the biggest prize pool not just for a SC2 showmatch, but of any tournament... of any sport.


By that logic, this is not even close. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/AoV_iCCup_StarLeague#Prizes

Everyone in the RO8 threw on purpose in order to cash in on the bubble /conspiracy.
Glorious SEA doto
weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2073 Posts
December 19 2013 16:40 GMT
#410
I think the last time we saw such a close poll vote was Idra vs Jinro isn't it? When we wanted to find out who's the best foreigner at that time History repeating itself. But for what I remember, the games weren't close. Hope for some Good Games this time....
Oppa feeding style
SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2475 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-19 16:46:45
December 19 2013 16:45 GMT
#411
2 days away TB, any info on the map pool? I'm guessing you'll probably just use the blizzard ladder maps because that's what they have most likely been practicing on. Also it'll probably be loser picks? Although a set map pool could be pretty neat because then maybe they could plan specific strategies ahead of time. Then again there isn't much time to plan now with it being 2 days away haha.
Creator of Abyssal Reef, Ascension to Aiur, Battle on the Boardwalk, Habitation Station, Honorgrounds, IPL Darkness Falls, King's Cove, Korhal Carnage Knockout & Moonlight Madness.
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
December 19 2013 16:54 GMT
#412
Naniwa and Scarlett also won the Blizzard Community Choice Award for WCS EU & WCS America more hype!
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
December 19 2013 17:01 GMT
#413
On December 19 2013 04:46 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2013 04:40 Incognoto wrote:
On December 19 2013 03:28 Squat wrote:
On December 19 2013 02:34 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
On December 19 2013 01:27 Squat wrote:
On December 19 2013 01:11 Sabu113 wrote:
On December 19 2013 00:47 Noocta wrote:
Well now it's not the biggest prizepool for a showmatch anymore. =/


Give it 2-3 weeks. Libertarians will hype it back up again. Fundamentally it doesn't make sense but it doesn't have to. Money is all about confidence.

Libertarians finally being good for something I guess. I honestly don't care whether it's 12k, 6k or 5 dollars, neither of these two need the money. I just want to see them play each other.


loll wut??

now pro gamers are making zillions of e-dollars?

Believe it or not, but you can be financially secure without being a millionaire. Both of them are on well established teams and have made plenty of money from SC2 in winnings. A guy who just made 20k last week does not need another 12k, period.

Again, the difference between need and want.


What a socialist way of viewing things. Is there a certain time needed between income before income becomes "needed"? Are people supposed to be careful to not put save too much money at the time?

A guy who made 20k last week could definitely use another 12k, especially if the industry he's in is as instable as esports.

I can't believe I have to go spell this out. How do you read what I wrote and extrapolate that? It's not even a strawman, it's just making shit up.

Need: I need this money to sustain myself.

Want: I want this money to buy stuff for my own personal satisfaction.

If you make 20k and then need another 12k next week, you're an idiot. If you want to stockpile money for the future, that's a not a need thing, that's a want thing. Naniwa and Scarlett can leave Esports and get a regular job at any time. Both of them have made good money and have had a lot of expenses covered by their teams. None of them NEED 12k dollars. What if this showmatch had never taken place? Would they be out on the streets?

No, I'm not a socialist. No, I'm not angry with people making or saving more money than they strictly need. This place sometimes.


Your an idiot. Its a competition, high skill means they get high rewards for winning.

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Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
December 19 2013 17:03 GMT
#414
On December 20 2013 01:17 R1CH wrote:
By that logic, this is not even close. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/AoV_iCCup_StarLeague#Prizes


Haha funny how things change. 5-8th would be better than winning :3
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
December 19 2013 17:10 GMT
#415
On December 20 2013 01:45 SidianTheBard wrote:
2 days away TB, any info on the map pool? I'm guessing you'll probably just use the blizzard ladder maps because that's what they have most likely been practicing on. Also it'll probably be loser picks? Although a set map pool could be pretty neat because then maybe they could plan specific strategies ahead of time. Then again there isn't much time to plan now with it being 2 days away haha.


I in fact do have information on the map-pool.

Naniwa and Scarlett negotiated a pool between them (I was there, there was much arguing). We have come up with a 5 map pool on refresh because we believe you'll see higher quality games that way (many pros have argued for smaller map pools for a while). They will be ladder maps yes. Each player vetoed a map until we were left with 1 starting map at which point players took turns picking the rest of the maps in order, so they can prepare for the entire series ahead of time instead of relying on loser picks.
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Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1840 Posts
December 19 2013 17:11 GMT
#416
On December 20 2013 01:17 R1CH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2013 21:15 havok55 wrote:
Poll: Who takes it?
Scarlett (1242)
50%
Naniwa (1242)
50%
2484 total votes


Damn...

Also if the winner holds onto the bitcoins and by some crazy act of god its values goes up x1000 or more (again), this could be the biggest prize pool not just for a SC2 showmatch, but of any tournament... of any sport.


By that logic, this is not even close. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/AoV_iCCup_StarLeague#Prizes



Your ability to find that sort of information amazes me.

China has ended it's use of bitcoin, which explains the sudden drop these past few days.
TL+ Member
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
December 19 2013 17:13 GMT
#417
Considering how much more popular is Scarlett, a 50/50 poll about winning means the majority of people think Naniwa would win. Frankly, even if they were in equal shape, it would be a tough close battle most likely, but in this case we will have a very well prepared and very determined Naniwa vs a not caring all that much Scarlett, so it's probably going to be quite the stomp, unfortunately. I'd be cheering for Scarlett though.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2475 Posts
December 19 2013 17:15 GMT
#418
On December 20 2013 02:10 TotalBiscuit wrote:
I in fact do have information on the map-pool.

Naniwa and Scarlett negotiated a pool between them (I was there, there was much arguing). We have come up with a 5 map pool on refresh because we believe you'll see higher quality games that way (many pros have argued for smaller map pools for a while). They will be ladder maps yes. Each player vetoed a map until we were left with 1 starting map at which point players took turns picking the rest of the maps in order, so they can prepare for the entire series ahead of time instead of relying on loser picks.


Great to hear, I always think having a map pool known for the players ahead of time makes the games that much better to watch. Be nice to finally see a tournament with only 5 maps as well, let's hope this goes to game 7 then so we see some repeats!
Creator of Abyssal Reef, Ascension to Aiur, Battle on the Boardwalk, Habitation Station, Honorgrounds, IPL Darkness Falls, King's Cove, Korhal Carnage Knockout & Moonlight Madness.
metroid composite
Profile Joined February 2007
Canada231 Posts
December 19 2013 17:22 GMT
#419
On December 20 2013 02:13 figq wrote:
Considering how much more popular is Scarlett, a 50/50 poll about winning means the majority of people think Naniwa would win. Frankly, even if they were in equal shape, it would be a tough close battle most likely, but in this case we will have a very well prepared and very determined Naniwa vs a not caring all that much Scarlett, so it's probably going to be quite the stomp, unfortunately. I'd be cheering for Scarlett though.


I dunno, I mean, Stardust beat Naniwa the last two times they faced, and Scarlett just beat Stardust 3-1. I would be inclined to rate MC as perhaps slightly better than Naniwa; certainly more successful in WCS, and Scarlett recently beat him 2-0 in an absolutely dominant stomp.

She's lost some games to much weaker protoss recently as well, don't get me wrong, but it's not like she can't beat a top level protoss. It's just "coinflippy".
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Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
December 19 2013 17:23 GMT
#420
On December 20 2013 02:13 figq wrote:
Considering how much more popular is Scarlett, a 50/50 poll about winning means the majority of people think Naniwa would win. Frankly, even if they were in equal shape, it would be a tough close battle most likely, but in this case we will have a very well prepared and very determined Naniwa vs a not caring all that much Scarlett, so it's probably going to be quite the stomp, unfortunately. I'd be cheering for Scarlett though.


No, it's probably more people just trolling the poll to keep it at 50/50, since you can see the results before you vote.
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