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On December 08 2013 06:48 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2013 06:48 sharkie wrote:On December 08 2013 06:47 Fusilero wrote:On December 08 2013 06:47 Partha wrote:On December 08 2013 06:45 Fusilero wrote:On December 08 2013 06:45 Partha wrote:On December 08 2013 06:43 Fusilero wrote:On December 08 2013 06:41 Partha wrote:On December 08 2013 06:41 Kasaraki wrote:
JD does so many things that should make me like him, but I just can't. He is literally the greatest RTS pro gamer of all time. How you gonna hate on him. Generally greatest RTS gamers of all time tend to win SC2 tournaments. Idiots not realizing how utterly unimpressive it is to win a SC2 tourney compared to winning MULTIPLE BW tourneys. This is what I hate most about fans who only know about SC2. They actually think SC2 is worth anything compared to BW. Backpeddle more pls If Jaedong isn't the greatest RTS player of all time who is? No one has the level of success he has had in two games. So let's run this through, brood war is so much harder and it's totally more impressive to win in it. So why can't he win in SC2? bad luck, losing five finals has NOTHING to do with skills ~If that is what makes you happy then believe that~
Did you not watch that series against Stardust? Jaedong sucked balls in that final. No luck involved at all.
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On December 08 2013 06:47 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2013 06:47 Partha wrote:On December 08 2013 06:45 Fusilero wrote:On December 08 2013 06:45 Partha wrote:On December 08 2013 06:43 Fusilero wrote:On December 08 2013 06:41 Partha wrote:On December 08 2013 06:41 Kasaraki wrote:
JD does so many things that should make me like him, but I just can't. He is literally the greatest RTS pro gamer of all time. How you gonna hate on him. Generally greatest RTS gamers of all time tend to win SC2 tournaments. Idiots not realizing how utterly unimpressive it is to win a SC2 tourney compared to winning MULTIPLE BW tourneys. This is what I hate most about fans who only know about SC2. They actually think SC2 is worth anything compared to BW. Backpeddle more pls If Jaedong isn't the greatest RTS player of all time who is? No one has the level of success he has had in two games. So let's run this through, brood war is so much harder and it's totally more impressive to win in it. So why can't he win in SC2?
Why do you think he won't win a tourney in Sc2? Aren't you going to look stupid when he wins this tourney or maybe more tourneys next year? You seem to be unable to answer my question. Who is a greater RTS player than Jaedong?
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
Quick question: Who else is going to atc (and is a acer fan) ?
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On December 08 2013 06:49 Partha wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2013 06:47 Fusilero wrote:On December 08 2013 06:47 Partha wrote:On December 08 2013 06:45 Fusilero wrote:On December 08 2013 06:45 Partha wrote:On December 08 2013 06:43 Fusilero wrote:On December 08 2013 06:41 Partha wrote:On December 08 2013 06:41 Kasaraki wrote:
JD does so many things that should make me like him, but I just can't. He is literally the greatest RTS pro gamer of all time. How you gonna hate on him. Generally greatest RTS gamers of all time tend to win SC2 tournaments. Idiots not realizing how utterly unimpressive it is to win a SC2 tourney compared to winning MULTIPLE BW tourneys. This is what I hate most about fans who only know about SC2. They actually think SC2 is worth anything compared to BW. Backpeddle more pls If Jaedong isn't the greatest RTS player of all time who is? No one has the level of success he has had in two games. So let's run this through, brood war is so much harder and it's totally more impressive to win in it. So why can't he win in SC2? Why do you think he won't win a tourney in Sc2? Aren't you going to look stupid when he wins this tourney or maybe more tourneys next year? You seem to be unable to answer my question. Who is a greater RTS player than Jaedong?
MVP
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On December 08 2013 06:48 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2013 06:48 sharkie wrote:On December 08 2013 06:47 Fusilero wrote:On December 08 2013 06:47 Partha wrote:On December 08 2013 06:45 Fusilero wrote:On December 08 2013 06:45 Partha wrote:On December 08 2013 06:43 Fusilero wrote:On December 08 2013 06:41 Partha wrote:On December 08 2013 06:41 Kasaraki wrote:
JD does so many things that should make me like him, but I just can't. He is literally the greatest RTS pro gamer of all time. How you gonna hate on him. Generally greatest RTS gamers of all time tend to win SC2 tournaments. Idiots not realizing how utterly unimpressive it is to win a SC2 tourney compared to winning MULTIPLE BW tourneys. This is what I hate most about fans who only know about SC2. They actually think SC2 is worth anything compared to BW. Backpeddle more pls If Jaedong isn't the greatest RTS player of all time who is? No one has the level of success he has had in two games. So let's run this through, brood war is so much harder and it's totally more impressive to win in it. So why can't he win in SC2? bad luck, losing five finals has NOTHING to do with skills ~If that is what makes you happy then believe that~
Well, Jaedong was not seeded into any final so he had to beat players to get there.
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On December 08 2013 06:49 Andwhy wrote:
There is so much misinformation in this thread I had to log in and comment.
Innovation is certainly NOT the greatest RTS player of all time. In the Starcraft scene, that HAS to be Flash (or one of the other BW bonjwas). And that is entirely ignoring the solid WC3 scene, which is to discredit Grubby's achievements. Jaedong is good, and his consistently after the game switch is impressive, but looking at his body of work, he is certainly no Flash and maybe not even a Grubby.
I'm not informed enough to take this debate seriously, but didn't Moon have more success than Grubby?
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On December 08 2013 06:49 TheDwf wrote:
No 11/11 in 5 TvZ, I am disappointed.
Bunkers need a buff
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On December 08 2013 06:49 Partha wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2013 06:47 Fusilero wrote:On December 08 2013 06:47 Partha wrote:On December 08 2013 06:45 Fusilero wrote:On December 08 2013 06:45 Partha wrote:On December 08 2013 06:43 Fusilero wrote:On December 08 2013 06:41 Partha wrote:On December 08 2013 06:41 Kasaraki wrote:
JD does so many things that should make me like him, but I just can't. He is literally the greatest RTS pro gamer of all time. How you gonna hate on him. Generally greatest RTS gamers of all time tend to win SC2 tournaments. Idiots not realizing how utterly unimpressive it is to win a SC2 tourney compared to winning MULTIPLE BW tourneys. This is what I hate most about fans who only know about SC2. They actually think SC2 is worth anything compared to BW. Backpeddle more pls If Jaedong isn't the greatest RTS player of all time who is? No one has the level of success he has had in two games. So let's run this through, brood war is so much harder and it's totally more impressive to win in it. So why can't he win in SC2? Why do you think he won't win a tourney in Sc2? Aren't you going to look stupid when he wins this tourney or maybe more tourneys next year? You seem to be unable to answer my question. Who is a greater RTS player than Jaedong?
nada
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On December 08 2013 06:49 Partha wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2013 06:47 Fusilero wrote:On December 08 2013 06:47 Partha wrote:On December 08 2013 06:45 Fusilero wrote:On December 08 2013 06:45 Partha wrote:On December 08 2013 06:43 Fusilero wrote:On December 08 2013 06:41 Partha wrote:On December 08 2013 06:41 Kasaraki wrote:
JD does so many things that should make me like him, but I just can't. He is literally the greatest RTS pro gamer of all time. How you gonna hate on him. Generally greatest RTS gamers of all time tend to win SC2 tournaments. Idiots not realizing how utterly unimpressive it is to win a SC2 tourney compared to winning MULTIPLE BW tourneys. This is what I hate most about fans who only know about SC2. They actually think SC2 is worth anything compared to BW. Backpeddle more pls If Jaedong isn't the greatest RTS player of all time who is? No one has the level of success he has had in two games. So let's run this through, brood war is so much harder and it's totally more impressive to win in it. So why can't he win in SC2? Why do you think he won't win a tourney in Sc2? Aren't you going to look stupid when he wins this tourney or maybe more tourneys next year? You seem to be unable to answer my question. Who is a greater RTS player than Jaedong?
Also if winning at SC2 is meaningless because it's not BW, what does it matter?
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your Country52798 Posts
On December 08 2013 06:46 The_Templar wrote:Jaedong spawns in the top left Innovation spawns in the bottom right
2:00
Jaedong going hatchery first against CC first.
Innovation building one barracks.
Third hatchery for Jaedong before spawning pool.
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Innovation scouts the late spawning pool.
Refinery for Innovation.
4:00
Innovation getting a factory.
Jaedong making three queens.
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Innovation building a starport.
Hellions for Innovation.
Jaedong getting three zerglings.
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On December 08 2013 06:48 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2013 06:48 sharkie wrote:On December 08 2013 06:47 Fusilero wrote:On December 08 2013 06:47 Partha wrote:On December 08 2013 06:45 Fusilero wrote:On December 08 2013 06:45 Partha wrote:On December 08 2013 06:43 Fusilero wrote:On December 08 2013 06:41 Partha wrote:On December 08 2013 06:41 Kasaraki wrote:
JD does so many things that should make me like him, but I just can't. He is literally the greatest RTS pro gamer of all time. How you gonna hate on him. Generally greatest RTS gamers of all time tend to win SC2 tournaments. Idiots not realizing how utterly unimpressive it is to win a SC2 tourney compared to winning MULTIPLE BW tourneys. This is what I hate most about fans who only know about SC2. They actually think SC2 is worth anything compared to BW. Backpeddle more pls If Jaedong isn't the greatest RTS player of all time who is? No one has the level of success he has had in two games. So let's run this through, brood war is so much harder and it's totally more impressive to win in it. So why can't he win in SC2? bad luck, losing five finals has NOTHING to do with skills ~If that is what makes you happy then believe that~
Lol bronze level idiot hating on Jaedong. You stay classy UK.
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On December 08 2013 06:49 Partha wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2013 06:47 Fusilero wrote:On December 08 2013 06:47 Partha wrote:On December 08 2013 06:45 Fusilero wrote:On December 08 2013 06:45 Partha wrote:On December 08 2013 06:43 Fusilero wrote:On December 08 2013 06:41 Partha wrote:On December 08 2013 06:41 Kasaraki wrote:
JD does so many things that should make me like him, but I just can't. He is literally the greatest RTS pro gamer of all time. How you gonna hate on him. Generally greatest RTS gamers of all time tend to win SC2 tournaments. Idiots not realizing how utterly unimpressive it is to win a SC2 tourney compared to winning MULTIPLE BW tourneys. This is what I hate most about fans who only know about SC2. They actually think SC2 is worth anything compared to BW. Backpeddle more pls If Jaedong isn't the greatest RTS player of all time who is? No one has the level of success he has had in two games. So let's run this through, brood war is so much harder and it's totally more impressive to win in it. So why can't he win in SC2? Why do you think he won't win a tourney in Sc2? Aren't you going to look stupid when he wins this tourney or maybe more tourneys next year? You seem to be unable to answer my question. Who is a greater RTS player than Jaedong?
Flash
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
On December 08 2013 06:50 Qwerty85 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2013 06:49 TheDwf wrote:
No 11/11 in 5 TvZ, I am disappointed. Bunkers need a buff
that would be amazing
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On December 08 2013 06:49 Partha wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2013 06:47 Fusilero wrote:On December 08 2013 06:47 Partha wrote:On December 08 2013 06:45 Fusilero wrote:On December 08 2013 06:45 Partha wrote:On December 08 2013 06:43 Fusilero wrote:On December 08 2013 06:41 Partha wrote:On December 08 2013 06:41 Kasaraki wrote:
JD does so many things that should make me like him, but I just can't. He is literally the greatest RTS pro gamer of all time. How you gonna hate on him. Generally greatest RTS gamers of all time tend to win SC2 tournaments. Idiots not realizing how utterly unimpressive it is to win a SC2 tourney compared to winning MULTIPLE BW tourneys. This is what I hate most about fans who only know about SC2. They actually think SC2 is worth anything compared to BW. Backpeddle more pls If Jaedong isn't the greatest RTS player of all time who is? No one has the level of success he has had in two games. So let's run this through, brood war is so much harder and it's totally more impressive to win in it. So why can't he win in SC2? Why do you think he won't win a tourney in Sc2? Aren't you going to look stupid when he wins this tourney or maybe more tourneys next year? You seem to be unable to answer my question. Who is a greater RTS player than Jaedong?
What kind of statement is "greatest RTS player of all time" anyway. Why can't it be grubby, moon or sky. They were the greats of WC3 or are we gonna go down some arbitrary "because I said so" metric to determine this?
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Belgica34432 Posts
On December 08 2013 06:50 BlackCompany wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2013 06:49 Partha wrote:On December 08 2013 06:47 Fusilero wrote:On December 08 2013 06:47 Partha wrote:On December 08 2013 06:45 Fusilero wrote:On December 08 2013 06:45 Partha wrote:On December 08 2013 06:43 Fusilero wrote:On December 08 2013 06:41 Partha wrote:On December 08 2013 06:41 Kasaraki wrote:
JD does so many things that should make me like him, but I just can't. He is literally the greatest RTS pro gamer of all time. How you gonna hate on him. Generally greatest RTS gamers of all time tend to win SC2 tournaments. Idiots not realizing how utterly unimpressive it is to win a SC2 tourney compared to winning MULTIPLE BW tourneys. This is what I hate most about fans who only know about SC2. They actually think SC2 is worth anything compared to BW. Backpeddle more pls If Jaedong isn't the greatest RTS player of all time who is? No one has the level of success he has had in two games. So let's run this through, brood war is so much harder and it's totally more impressive to win in it. So why can't he win in SC2? Why do you think he won't win a tourney in Sc2? Aren't you going to look stupid when he wins this tourney or maybe more tourneys next year? You seem to be unable to answer my question. Who is a greater RTS player than Jaedong? Flash
Booster
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On December 08 2013 06:50 Partha wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2013 06:48 Fusilero wrote:On December 08 2013 06:48 sharkie wrote:On December 08 2013 06:47 Fusilero wrote:On December 08 2013 06:47 Partha wrote:On December 08 2013 06:45 Fusilero wrote:On December 08 2013 06:45 Partha wrote:On December 08 2013 06:43 Fusilero wrote:On December 08 2013 06:41 Partha wrote:On December 08 2013 06:41 Kasaraki wrote:
JD does so many things that should make me like him, but I just can't. He is literally the greatest RTS pro gamer of all time. How you gonna hate on him. Generally greatest RTS gamers of all time tend to win SC2 tournaments. Idiots not realizing how utterly unimpressive it is to win a SC2 tourney compared to winning MULTIPLE BW tourneys. This is what I hate most about fans who only know about SC2. They actually think SC2 is worth anything compared to BW. Backpeddle more pls If Jaedong isn't the greatest RTS player of all time who is? No one has the level of success he has had in two games. So let's run this through, brood war is so much harder and it's totally more impressive to win in it. So why can't he win in SC2? bad luck, losing five finals has NOTHING to do with skills ~If that is what makes you happy then believe that~ Lol bronze level idiot hating on Jaedong. You stay classy UK.
The Butthurt is increasing in this one. This is why I love seeing JD lose.
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On December 08 2013 06:50 Qwerty85 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2013 06:49 TheDwf wrote:
No 11/11 in 5 TvZ, I am disappointed. Bunkers need a buff
Bunker build time is fine
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oh man Stephano forgot his warpgate. that's really bad on Terenas Stand.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On December 08 2013 06:49 Cheren wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2013 06:49 Andwhy wrote:
There is so much misinformation in this thread I had to log in and comment.
Innovation is certainly NOT the greatest RTS player of all time. In the Starcraft scene, that HAS to be Flash (or one of the other BW bonjwas). And that is entirely ignoring the solid WC3 scene, which is to discredit Grubby's achievements. Jaedong is good, and his consistently after the game switch is impressive, but looking at his body of work, he is certainly no Flash and maybe not even a Grubby. I'm not informed enough to take this debate seriously, but didn't Moon have more success than Grubby?
3 stood above the rest. How you rate them is subjective. They are: Moon, Grubby and Sky. After that it's either Lyn or ToD depending.
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On December 08 2013 06:44 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2013 06:43 Culture wrote:
If JD wins I do not know who to cheer for! I was going to combine Scarlett and Jaedong's name and recommend you root for that fusion, but then I realized that Scardong is probably not an appealing name for someone to have.
That name made little Kasaraki crawl far inside of big Kasaraki.
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