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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
November 30 2013 23:50 GMT
#4961
Tonight TaeJa is the best player in the world. Tomorrow it's gonna be someone else. That is the way of Starcraft
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
bourne117
Profile Joined May 2010
United States837 Posts
November 30 2013 23:50 GMT
#4962
On December 01 2013 08:47 ACrow wrote:
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On December 01 2013 08:46 goody153 wrote:
On December 01 2013 08:44 Dodgin wrote:
well Taeja is obviously player of the year, he may not have won a WCS event but he won FIVE premier tournaments including some insanely tough ones like this.

and he still not the best terran .. he even admits this .. and this is not making any sense ill be honest

But which Terran would you consider to be better? Innovation? His TvT is really subpar and even his TvZ has fallen off a little in the last 1-2 months.

The only one you could possibly say is Maru. Polt continues to fail against non WCS AM players. Bomber is SUPER inconsistent. Innovation is basically Taejas bitch at this point. I think he has won like 3 or 4 straight matches against him and all have been pretty easy. Plus Taeja has better TvZ and TvP. That just leaves maru.
QO Feasting
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44267 Posts
November 30 2013 23:50 GMT
#4963
On December 01 2013 08:47 ACrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 08:46 goody153 wrote:
On December 01 2013 08:44 Dodgin wrote:
well Taeja is obviously player of the year, he may not have won a WCS event but he won FIVE premier tournaments including some insanely tough ones like this.

and he still not the best terran .. he even admits this .. and this is not making any sense ill be honest

But which Terran would you consider to be better? Innovation? His TvT is really subpar and even his TvZ has fallen off a little in the last 1-2 months.

idk .. maru i guess is the closest ? maybe i'll be honest i cant tell who is the best ..there are so many great terrans but not as dominating as how innovation did in season 1 ..

so i would go for either taeja or maru .. since bomber is a little inconsistent
this is a quote
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
November 30 2013 23:50 GMT
#4964
So I guess I should stop rebuilding scvs in TvZ.
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
InspiredFrog
Profile Joined February 2009
Finland522 Posts
November 30 2013 23:50 GMT
#4965
Man, Patience must've gained quite a number of followers from this event.
Much | Iris | July --- TaeJa | HerO | TLO
Chill Penguin
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia756 Posts
November 30 2013 23:50 GMT
#4966
So happy for Taeja. For as good as Taeja as been over the last 2 years, this is his first BIG tournament victory. It's been a long time coming.
Dinotramp
Profile Joined August 2012
Nauru2871 Posts
November 30 2013 23:50 GMT
#4967
On December 01 2013 08:50 Wintex wrote:
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On December 01 2013 08:49 Dinotramp wrote:
On December 01 2013 08:49 Wintex wrote:
On December 01 2013 08:47 Popkiller wrote:
On December 01 2013 08:46 Gorlin wrote:
Life
I think Taeja is definitely the best player in the world.


I still think its Dear.

Bomber is the best player in the world.


at losing to canadians?

You're still nothing.


Just like Bomber then
RIP Starcraft scene in the UK. Defeated by EG money and Swedish Zergs.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
November 30 2013 23:50 GMT
#4968
On December 01 2013 08:48 IntoTheheart wrote:
Is this a common theme in TvZ?

Zerg goes muta/ling/bling and stays on Lair Tech, Terran gets 3/3 Infantry and just attacks?
Zerg doesn't transition. Zerg dies.

No, it is more common to die while transitioning, most of the Zerg players stay on 2-2 and Lair tech for a very long time and just masses up to 30 Mutas and win the game with them plus mass Banelings.

Taeja just played godly game and Life made some crucial mistakes.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 30 2013 23:50 GMT
#4969
On December 01 2013 08:49 ACrow wrote:
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On December 01 2013 08:48 StarStruck wrote:
On December 01 2013 08:47 Popkiller wrote:
On December 01 2013 08:46 Gorlin wrote:
Life
I think Taeja is definitely the best player in the world.


I still think its Dear.


drop it.

Why, I also think Dear is the best Protoss right now?


opinions don't matter. -.^
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
November 30 2013 23:50 GMT
#4970
On December 01 2013 08:49 Elite_ wrote:
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On December 01 2013 08:48 FFW_Rude wrote:
Serious question. When is the last time a Zerg won a tournament ?

October 13th. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IEM_Season_VIII_-_New_York


Thank you
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Jerom
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands588 Posts
November 30 2013 23:50 GMT
#4971
Let's see if he understands how champagne works this time around
ShadowReaver
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada563 Posts
November 30 2013 23:50 GMT
#4972
Taeja
2-1 Innovation
2-1 sOs
2-1 HerO
2-1 MMA
2-0 Life
4-2 Life

What a run, Congrats Taeja!
FuRRie
Profile Joined February 2009
Belgium815 Posts
November 30 2013 23:50 GMT
#4973
On December 01 2013 08:50 Noonius wrote:
Tonight TaeJa is the best player in the world. Tomorrow it's gonna be someone else. That is the way of Starcraft


We just all know it ain't one of us p
Kiran
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany52 Posts
November 30 2013 23:50 GMT
#4974
On December 01 2013 08:49 s3rp wrote:
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On December 01 2013 08:47 Kiran wrote:
31 scvs vs 65 drones. this is starcraft logic. grats to liquid, but this still sucks ass.


65 Drones on what 2 mineral lines at best ? Doesn't mean shit.


at that time it was 3base vs 4base. this actually means shit.
Fungal Storm of green glue!
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
November 30 2013 23:51 GMT
#4975
lol did anyone else spot the blonde cutie in the pikachu hoodie?


anyways, gratz taeja, in my books, you are the best player of 2013.
and also congratulations to life for a very strong, gritty performance that made this finals one of the best of the year.


and thanks to dreamhack, its team and all its sponsors for an event that was just all-around fantastic!
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
November 30 2013 23:51 GMT
#4976
On December 01 2013 08:50 Hryul wrote:
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On December 01 2013 08:48 Wintex wrote:
On December 01 2013 08:48 goody153 wrote:
On December 01 2013 08:46 pak150 wrote:
On December 01 2013 08:45 Abominous wrote:
On December 01 2013 08:44 Adreme wrote:
I don't understand the current ZvT meta it just doesn't make sense to me why zergs bet everything on winning in mid game instead of developing there army.

Their end-game army isn't mobile enough to keep up with the terran.


That, and it's also difficult to invest the time/resources into infestation pit and hive and survive against constant pressure. Personally I'd love to see 3/3 at infestation tech.

that would be nice .. but in exchange terrans should have a buff so that they can finally tech up .. not get stuck with marine marauder

MMMMM probably needs a nerf if we want to get a good Tier 3 tho.

yeah. Terran t3. what should this army look like? bc and ravens supported by thors? I'm so sick of this tier bullshit.

I want the raven to be the thing the science vessel is to bw terran.
The Bomber boy
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
November 30 2013 23:51 GMT
#4977
On December 01 2013 08:50 ShadowReaver wrote:
Taeja
2-1 Innovation
2-1 sOs
2-1 HerO
2-1 MMA
2-0 Life
4-2 Life

What a run, Congrats Taeja!


not invincible, but still unbeatable.
Dinotramp
Profile Joined August 2012
Nauru2871 Posts
November 30 2013 23:51 GMT
#4978
On December 01 2013 08:50 FuRRie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 08:50 Noonius wrote:
Tonight TaeJa is the best player in the world. Tomorrow it's gonna be someone else. That is the way of Starcraft


We just all know it ain't one of us p


Or bomber
RIP Starcraft scene in the UK. Defeated by EG money and Swedish Zergs.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 30 2013 23:51 GMT
#4979
congrats to Taeja! Looked like life had it for a while when you look at supply and position but then he allowed Taeja to take out his 4th then 5th and then 3rd in like 5 mins or so lol
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
November 30 2013 23:51 GMT
#4980
nsfw!
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
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