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[DreamHack] Winter 2013 Day 2 Knock Out Rounds - Page 151

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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
November 29 2013 22:14 GMT
#3001
On November 30 2013 07:13 crappen wrote:
Damn this talk about retiring, kind of get the impression that starcraft is very boring for these players :s Or too souldraining on them

SC2 is really souldraining. There is a reason wonwonwon does not have 100% winrate :D
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
bourne117
Profile Joined May 2010
United States837 Posts
November 29 2013 22:14 GMT
#3002
On November 30 2013 07:08 Ramiz1989 wrote:
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On November 30 2013 07:04 Fjodorov wrote:
On November 30 2013 07:03 sibs wrote:
On November 30 2013 07:02 panzercrusher wrote:
Taeja got this DH.


Taeja won't beat life in a bo5/bo7 imo.


based on this bo3 you think Life has the edge? :o

Based on what? This Bo3 didn't say anything. Game 1 Life was in control the whole game, then had one of those derp moments where he suicided like 10 Banelings and floated over the Marines with 20 Mutas and then he didn't have enough units to defend the 5th base.

Second game was a huge gamble as Apollo said because he thought that he can trap the Hellions, but Hellions just get back in the base and all-in failed.

I don't say that Life has the edge, but these games really didn't show much, these guys play on such high level that anything can happen in Bo5.

On game 1 Taeja pushed out while maxed and had like 30 less workers and 3/3 vs 2/2. The banelings and Mutas insured the loss but he was pushing in a position where he had a WAY stronger army and was still at 4 bases with very little damage. The idea that Life wins easy without those derps is plain wrong.
QO Feasting
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
November 29 2013 22:14 GMT
#3003
On November 30 2013 07:05 Necosarius wrote:
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On November 30 2013 07:04 ACrow wrote:
This is not Dreamhack Winter, this is Dreamhack Summer.

Might as well call it Dreamhack Liquid considering how many finals they have been in.

Or DreamHack Bumblebee, since his players won DreamHack Winter 3 times in a row now, with the 4th victory line up nicely so far.
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
November 29 2013 22:14 GMT
#3004
On November 30 2013 07:13 Darkhoarse wrote:
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On November 30 2013 07:12 Qwerty85 wrote:
On November 30 2013 07:11 Darkhoarse wrote:
On November 30 2013 07:10 Qwerty85 wrote:
Why is Taeja talking about retiring so much lately?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say he may be thinking about retiring.


Yes I know that but he is way too young and too good to retire.

He has wrist issues though right?


Pretty sure you could say that about just about any of the top players for Terran and Zerg. Or at least it seems that way.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
November 29 2013 22:14 GMT
#3005
Taeja always impressed me because he combines a lot of what you would need to be the perfect Starcraft player. He doesn't really have a "flaw" so to speak and all his specs are really high.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
November 29 2013 22:14 GMT
#3006
On November 30 2013 07:12 Steins;Gate wrote:
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On November 30 2013 07:10 Qwerty85 wrote:
Why is Taeja talking about retiring so much lately?

Maybe he's thinking about going back to school, he did earn a lot from sc. It'll the smart thing to do

I guess spending the last couple of months in Holland, eating nothing bot Ramen broke his will. Team Liquid Killing E-Sports-Due-to-Failing-To-Feed-Taeja-Korean-Food.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
November 29 2013 22:14 GMT
#3007
On November 30 2013 07:12 Undead1993 wrote:
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On November 30 2013 07:11 Darkhoarse wrote:
On November 30 2013 07:10 Qwerty85 wrote:
Why is Taeja talking about retiring so much lately?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say he may be thinking about retiring.

i think he just wants attention i just get that feeling. i mean whats the reason to mention it in every interview possible? without actually doing it

i guess a part of him wants to retire but another part of him keeps saying "dude! look at this shit! you're winning every tournament you enter! cash just keeps being thrown at you! you really gonna quit this shit NOW?"

so he keeps playing around with the thought, and so he talks about it (maybe also to prepare his fans a bit) but he keeps playing until he feels it's not worth it anymore. you know, like Stephano did.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
HotGlueGun
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1409 Posts
November 29 2013 22:14 GMT
#3008
JYP about to go on a monster run. Taeja vs JYP finals plz
Don't hoot with the Owls at night if you cant soar with the Eagles at dawn.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 29 2013 22:14 GMT
#3009
On November 30 2013 07:13 lolfail9001 wrote:
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On November 30 2013 07:12 Qwerty85 wrote:
On November 30 2013 07:11 Darkhoarse wrote:
On November 30 2013 07:10 Qwerty85 wrote:
Why is Taeja talking about retiring so much lately?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say he may be thinking about retiring.


Yes I know that but he is way too young and too good to retire.

Hence he pulls a Stephano.

Well here's the deal. If he retires now, he pulls an Elway and goes out on top. If he waits, he may just fall off and have a Favre like end to his career.

Disclaimer: May be confusing to people who aren't from the US
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Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
November 29 2013 22:15 GMT
#3010
On November 30 2013 07:12 Nebuchad wrote:
I always get a kick on how much "literally" is devoid of meaning in the english language

Yeah, that word is literally so common that it's literally used whenever anyone literally can.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45854 Posts
November 29 2013 22:15 GMT
#3011
On November 30 2013 07:09 Darkhoarse wrote:
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On November 30 2013 07:08 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
EG Teamkill incoming

Cry me a river we already had a Liquid one.


Haha I know And there was plenty of crying over that too
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
November 29 2013 22:15 GMT
#3012
On November 30 2013 07:14 bourne117 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 07:08 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On November 30 2013 07:04 Fjodorov wrote:
On November 30 2013 07:03 sibs wrote:
On November 30 2013 07:02 panzercrusher wrote:
Taeja got this DH.


Taeja won't beat life in a bo5/bo7 imo.


based on this bo3 you think Life has the edge? :o

Based on what? This Bo3 didn't say anything. Game 1 Life was in control the whole game, then had one of those derp moments where he suicided like 10 Banelings and floated over the Marines with 20 Mutas and then he didn't have enough units to defend the 5th base.

Second game was a huge gamble as Apollo said because he thought that he can trap the Hellions, but Hellions just get back in the base and all-in failed.

I don't say that Life has the edge, but these games really didn't show much, these guys play on such high level that anything can happen in Bo5.

On game 1 Taeja pushed out while maxed and had like 30 less workers and 3/3 vs 2/2. The banelings and Mutas insured the loss but he was pushing in a position where he had a WAY stronger army and was still at 4 bases with very little damage. The idea that Life wins easy without those derps is plain wrong.

By the way it is true. Thor makes sniping mines harder, terran has much larger army and better upgrades. In fact it looked even grim for Life when i looked at supplies.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Karakaxe
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden585 Posts
November 29 2013 22:15 GMT
#3013
Naniwa last foreigner? Didn't see that comming!
Sword of Omens, give me sight beyond sight.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-29 22:16:11
November 29 2013 22:15 GMT
#3014
On November 30 2013 07:11 bourne117 wrote:
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On November 30 2013 07:07 Big J wrote:
On November 30 2013 07:05 bourne117 wrote:
On November 30 2013 07:04 Big J wrote:
On November 30 2013 07:04 ObeseHydra wrote:
Taeja best player of 2013


at least most successful and consistent.

So best player then.


Well, peak performances and the hight of their peaks also have a word in this, when there are Soulkey and INnoVation which have not been far off in terms of success and consistency, but have the more meaningful tournament wins.

You could argue Taejas peak performance is right around there. Look at who he has beaten here. Innovation, MMA, Hero, Life, sOs, ForGG, and Sjow. Look at DH Bucharest and it looks pretty similar. The whole idea its a foreign tournament so not as hard is a little silly in this case. He played only 1 foreigner and only one other player isn't a code S level player.


Don't want to go in detail too much, but winning a GSL is a much stronger peak. Not just playerwise (Dear, Soulkey, soO, Maru; while the players you call Code S calibre have partly failed to qualify for Code S more than once this year, or really aren't like ForGG or Sjow) but also formatwise. The preparation time and the longer series in the later stages make it much harder imo.

Edit: Don't want to take anything from Taeja, but for as long as he avoids Code S, it's hard to judge.
ArTiFaKs
Profile Joined September 2013
United States1229 Posts
November 29 2013 22:15 GMT
#3015
On November 30 2013 07:10 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 07:05 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
On November 30 2013 07:05 Schelim wrote:
Taeja has gone from stoic "i'm not supposed to lose to these people" mode to full Dimaga over the years.


Well, a happy taeja seems to be a winning taeja :D

oh, don't get me wrong, i love the happiness. i just think it's funny to remember him not showing any emotion upon winning a tournament and comparing it to now with that big smile on his face when he's not even won yet :D


He already explained he was just super tired and exhausted and just wanted to sleep, and apologized for looking as though he didn't care. People need to get off TaeJa's back about that already :p Most of the time I see TaeJa he's grinning from ear to ear.
There are things known, and things unknown, and in-between are the doors.
absinthfee
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany718 Posts
November 29 2013 22:15 GMT
#3016
On November 30 2013 07:13 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 07:13 Noonius wrote:
The day TaeJa retires will be the saddest day

his anti-fans are like Naniwa's fans, so not for everyone

His anti-fans are probably Naniwa fans :D
bourne117
Profile Joined May 2010
United States837 Posts
November 29 2013 22:15 GMT
#3017
On November 30 2013 07:13 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 07:13 Noonius wrote:
The day TaeJa retires will be the saddest day

his anti-fans are like Naniwa's fans, so not for everyone

I honestly don't understand how people hate him so much. He is crazy good and just seems very likeable.
QO Feasting
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
November 29 2013 22:15 GMT
#3018
On November 30 2013 07:12 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 07:09 Fjodorov wrote:
On November 30 2013 07:08 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On November 30 2013 07:04 Fjodorov wrote:
On November 30 2013 07:03 sibs wrote:
On November 30 2013 07:02 panzercrusher wrote:
Taeja got this DH.


Taeja won't beat life in a bo5/bo7 imo.


based on this bo3 you think Life has the edge? :o

Based on what? This Bo3 didn't say anything. Game 1 Life was in control the whole game, then had one of those derp moments where he suicided like 10 Banelings and floated over the Marines with 20 Mutas and then he didn't have enough units to defend the 5th base.

Second game was a huge gamble as Apollo said because he thought that he can trap the Hellions, but Hellions just get back in the base and all-in failed.

I don't say that Life has the edge, but these games really didn't show much, these guys play on such high level that anything can happen in Bo5.


And the fact that Life chose wrong/bad builds and made big mistakes is the reason why he would win a bo5 but not this bo3. Got it


Would you say that Innovation would undoubtedly lose to Life in a Bo5 because of their previous series? It was the exact same situation there too. One wrong decision in Game 1, one bad build in Game 2.


look where it started. He said Taeja wont win vs life in a bo5.
Bowzar
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden741 Posts
November 29 2013 22:15 GMT
#3019
On November 30 2013 07:10 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 07:05 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
On November 30 2013 07:05 Schelim wrote:
Taeja has gone from stoic "i'm not supposed to lose to these people" mode to full Dimaga over the years.


Well, a happy taeja seems to be a winning taeja :D

oh, don't get me wrong, i love the happiness. i just think it's funny to remember him not showing any emotion upon winning a tournament and comparing it to now with that big smile on his face when he's not even won yet :D

The fuck are you talking about. Taeja is one of the most cheerful players around.
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
November 29 2013 22:16 GMT
#3020
On November 30 2013 07:14 BlackCompany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 07:13 Hryul wrote:
On November 30 2013 07:10 BlackCompany wrote:
On November 30 2013 07:09 Darkhoarse wrote:
On November 30 2013 07:08 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
EG Teamkill incoming

Cry me a river we already had a Liquid one.


EG isnt used to teamkills, most of their players dont go this deep into a tournament normally

hahaha. I love you.


Yeah, i kind of like you too, but..you know.. lets just be friends?

b.b... but I thought we had something special??? you always make me laugh and stuff. . . .
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