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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
November 28 2013 21:17 GMT
#2701
On November 29 2013 06:15 remember87 wrote:
Dreamhack usually dont lag, but it does that a lot for me now. Am I the only one with this issue?


No it's unwatchable on twitch for me.

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1osp4m/lagging_on_twitchtv_watch_wcs_on_vlc_player/

This works though.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
November 28 2013 21:17 GMT
#2702
I'm on MTV, and I now remember why I stopped watching the french casters that are not Pomf or Thud.

Those casters are so ONE-SIDED, god.
And it's the same for other french casters... Even when it's not an aAa player or somewhat.
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
November 28 2013 21:18 GMT
#2703
I'm watching 8 twitch streams atm, none lag. I guess I'm just a lucky bastard or something
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
November 28 2013 21:18 GMT
#2704
On November 29 2013 06:16 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2013 06:13 Kasaraki wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:11 Zealously wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:08 Fjodorov wrote:
Taeja has been one of the best players in the world for years. Life is amazing but for me he needs another year to be one of the greats imo


I may be missing something, but I think Life has won as many premier tournaments (and arguably harder ones at that) as Taeja, and their careers started out roughly the same way at roughly the same time. What makes you feel that Life needs to prove himself further while Taeja doesn't?

You are wrong, TaeJa won more premiers, but you could argue the quality of the tournaments if you want.


I don't think we actually need to argue the quality of said tournaments.

But anyway:
GSL, MLG, Blizzard Cup, ISQ, MLG, IEM, DHW

I count seven!

+ Show Spoiler +
Before someone tries to hang me, yes I am aware that Taeja has 7 gold medals and Life only 6

Hahah, no there's not really any argument about who had harder tournaments, but that doesn't stop people. :D
_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
November 28 2013 21:18 GMT
#2705
On November 29 2013 06:14 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2013 06:13 Darkhoarse wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:12 TheDwf wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:09 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:07 TheDwf wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:06 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:05 TheDwf wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:04 sitromit wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:01 bourne117 wrote:
On November 29 2013 05:56 Zealously wrote:
[quote]

Last time Taeja played Life when they were both at their best, Life made Taeja look like a scrub.

Taeja was not at his best then. He had already started to fall off. That was like the week after he had lost TWICE to crank at MLG. He hadn't fallen completely off but it was definetly not his clear cut best. And also lets be honest that was when Zerg was starting to be kind of broken. The rest of the GSLs that year were all incredibly Zerg favored and all won by zergs and the finals of the rest of GSLs were all ZvZs.

Life won a GSL at his best, Taeja didn't, the end.

What an achievement with Zerg at the end of WoL!


Yes, it was an achievement with zerg even at the end of WoL. My god people's memories of that time are so clouded its ridiculous.

Quite on the contrary, I do remember very well HyuN vs Sniper followed by RorO vs Symbol as finals.


Indeed. And?

MVP was a scrub too because he used imba Terran during GomTvT? Just a ridiculous argument.

Mvp proved he could win even with when Terran was weakened. Where are Sniper and RorO now? Are Symbol and HyuN still potential Code S winners?

To be fair in WCS seasons 1 and 2 in HotS symbol was top 8

Indeed. Now Code B. Probably Code S RO16 at his best currently.


They are better than MVP is now. Your argument makes no sense. Sniper won the GSL. Not the race, the player.
Red and yellow are all I see
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
November 28 2013 21:18 GMT
#2706
On November 29 2013 06:17 HammerKick wrote:
I'm on MTV, and I now remember why I stopped watching the french casters that are not Pomf or Thud.

Those casters are so ONE-SIDED, god.
And it's the same for other french casters... Even when it's not an aAa player or somewhat.


Try the italian vasacast, it's fun
Neosteel Enthusiast
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
November 28 2013 21:19 GMT
#2707
On November 29 2013 06:17 HammerKick wrote:
I'm on MTV, and I now remember why I stopped watching the french casters that are not Pomf or Thud.

Those casters are so ONE-SIDED, god.
And it's the same for other french casters... Even when it's not an aAa player or somewhat.

HerO or JD bias?
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
November 28 2013 21:19 GMT
#2708
Is anyone else catching the random cackling laughter in the background every few minutes?
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
November 28 2013 21:19 GMT
#2709
On November 29 2013 06:16 Swiipii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2013 06:15 TheDwf wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:15 Swiipii wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:14 TheDwf wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:13 Darkhoarse wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:12 TheDwf wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:09 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:07 TheDwf wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:06 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:05 TheDwf wrote:
[quote]
What an achievement with Zerg at the end of WoL!


Yes, it was an achievement with zerg even at the end of WoL. My god people's memories of that time are so clouded its ridiculous.

Quite on the contrary, I do remember very well HyuN vs Sniper followed by RorO vs Symbol as finals.


Indeed. And?

MVP was a scrub too because he used imba Terran during GomTvT? Just a ridiculous argument.

Mvp proved he could win even with when Terran was weakened. Where are Sniper and RorO now? Are Symbol and HyuN still potential Code S winners?

To be fair in WCS seasons 1 and 2 in HotS symbol was top 8

Indeed. Now Code B. Probably Code S RO16 at his best currently.

And where is Mvp?

In WCS Europe.

Yep not doing anything ever since hellbats got nerfed. See what I did?

You did nothing since you missed the point. Some players proved that they didn't need their race to be the dominant one to win. Some fell shortly after their race was back to normality, maintaining the doubts.
bourne117
Profile Joined May 2010
United States837 Posts
November 28 2013 21:19 GMT
#2710
On November 29 2013 06:14 Abominous wrote:
I can't believe some punks dare to compare TaeJa to Life, guys won 2 premiers on Korean soil, TaeJa has won mediocrishly stacked foreign tournaments...Like Homestory cups and satellite dreamhacks...

Taeja was also the most consistent terran in 2012 in the GSL by far. He only missed 2 ro8s all year. He didn't win one but made ro4 twice and ro8 twice and did this mostly when terrans were really struggling. Plus those tournaments were much more stacked that you might realize. And don't forget IPL TAC 3 where he went 23-3 iirc against ONLY korean teams.
QO Feasting
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
November 28 2013 21:19 GMT
#2711
On November 29 2013 06:18 NovaMB wrote:
I'm watching 8 twitch streams atm, none lag. I guess I'm just a lucky bastard or something

Lol and I tought I was doing great with 3 streams! You win xd
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
November 28 2013 21:19 GMT
#2712
On November 29 2013 06:19 Serinox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2013 06:17 HammerKick wrote:
I'm on MTV, and I now remember why I stopped watching the french casters that are not Pomf or Thud.

Those casters are so ONE-SIDED, god.
And it's the same for other french casters... Even when it's not an aAa player or somewhat.

HerO or JD bias?


They're not casting this match.

It's ForGG.
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14463 Posts
November 28 2013 21:19 GMT
#2713
On November 29 2013 06:19 Serinox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2013 06:17 HammerKick wrote:
I'm on MTV, and I now remember why I stopped watching the french casters that are not Pomf or Thud.

Those casters are so ONE-SIDED, god.
And it's the same for other french casters... Even when it's not an aAa player or somewhat.

HerO or JD bias?

They are shoutcasting ForGG vs sOs.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
November 28 2013 21:20 GMT
#2714
Just came back, how did Sjow do in his matches?
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
November 28 2013 21:20 GMT
#2715
On November 29 2013 06:19 Squat wrote:
Is anyone else catching the random cackling laughter in the background every few minutes?

crowd sees the casters so often sth happens on stage that we cant see
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
November 28 2013 21:20 GMT
#2716
On November 29 2013 06:19 HammerKick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2013 06:19 Serinox wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:17 HammerKick wrote:
I'm on MTV, and I now remember why I stopped watching the french casters that are not Pomf or Thud.

Those casters are so ONE-SIDED, god.
And it's the same for other french casters... Even when it's not an aAa player or somewhat.

HerO or JD bias?


They're not casting this match.

It's ForGG.

Oh, that makes sense.
Damn French, can't do anything right.
jk
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-28 21:21:46
November 28 2013 21:20 GMT
#2717
God I love this build that HerO's doing
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
November 28 2013 21:20 GMT
#2718
On November 29 2013 06:16 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2013 06:13 Kasaraki wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:11 Zealously wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:08 Fjodorov wrote:
Taeja has been one of the best players in the world for years. Life is amazing but for me he needs another year to be one of the greats imo


I may be missing something, but I think Life has won as many premier tournaments (and arguably harder ones at that) as Taeja, and their careers started out roughly the same way at roughly the same time. What makes you feel that Life needs to prove himself further while Taeja doesn't?

You are wrong, TaeJa won more premiers, but you could argue the quality of the tournaments if you want.


I don't think we actually need to argue the quality of said tournaments.

But anyway:
GSL, MLG, Blizzard Cup, ISQ, MLG, IEM, DHW

I count seven!

+ Show Spoiler +
Before someone tries to hang me, yes I am aware that Taeja has 7 gold medals and Life only 6

You're totally right, MMA has had the second best career after Mvp.
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
November 28 2013 21:21 GMT
#2719
On November 29 2013 06:16 Swiipii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2013 06:15 TheDwf wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:15 Swiipii wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:14 TheDwf wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:13 Darkhoarse wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:12 TheDwf wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:09 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:07 TheDwf wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:06 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:05 TheDwf wrote:
[quote]
What an achievement with Zerg at the end of WoL!


Yes, it was an achievement with zerg even at the end of WoL. My god people's memories of that time are so clouded its ridiculous.

Quite on the contrary, I do remember very well HyuN vs Sniper followed by RorO vs Symbol as finals.


Indeed. And?

MVP was a scrub too because he used imba Terran during GomTvT? Just a ridiculous argument.

Mvp proved he could win even with when Terran was weakened. Where are Sniper and RorO now? Are Symbol and HyuN still potential Code S winners?

To be fair in WCS seasons 1 and 2 in HotS symbol was top 8

Indeed. Now Code B. Probably Code S RO16 at his best currently.

And where is Mvp?

In WCS Europe.

Yep not doing anything ever since hellbats got nerfed. See what I did?


Just stop with the Mvp bashing. Better comparison would be a terran that managed to win GSL and then never got back to the throne... use Jjakji as example if you want but comparing Mvp to Sniper, Hyun is just stupid. Mvp was winning/getting to GSL finals through the whole WoL era.

He has serious health issues which is quite different from having your shining moment and then falling of into nothingness.
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
November 28 2013 21:21 GMT
#2720
On November 29 2013 06:18 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2013 06:14 TheDwf wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:13 Darkhoarse wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:12 TheDwf wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:09 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:07 TheDwf wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:06 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:05 TheDwf wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:04 sitromit wrote:
On November 29 2013 06:01 bourne117 wrote:
[quote]
Taeja was not at his best then. He had already started to fall off. That was like the week after he had lost TWICE to crank at MLG. He hadn't fallen completely off but it was definetly not his clear cut best. And also lets be honest that was when Zerg was starting to be kind of broken. The rest of the GSLs that year were all incredibly Zerg favored and all won by zergs and the finals of the rest of GSLs were all ZvZs.

Life won a GSL at his best, Taeja didn't, the end.

What an achievement with Zerg at the end of WoL!


Yes, it was an achievement with zerg even at the end of WoL. My god people's memories of that time are so clouded its ridiculous.

Quite on the contrary, I do remember very well HyuN vs Sniper followed by RorO vs Symbol as finals.


Indeed. And?

MVP was a scrub too because he used imba Terran during GomTvT? Just a ridiculous argument.

Mvp proved he could win even with when Terran was weakened. Where are Sniper and RorO now? Are Symbol and HyuN still potential Code S winners?

To be fair in WCS seasons 1 and 2 in HotS symbol was top 8

Indeed. Now Code B. Probably Code S RO16 at his best currently.


They are better than MVP is now. Your argument makes no sense. Sniper won the GSL. Not the race, the player.

I assume they are physically fine tho. Mvp is a hero
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