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SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
November 20 2013 15:50 GMT
#81
Bingo
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Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
November 20 2013 15:52 GMT
#82
On November 21 2013 00:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 00:43 Promethelax wrote:
Congrats acer. Crazy that a team with only two races is the deepest line up in this competition.


I'd say Axiom is the most balanced team

They have a better balanced roster for sure, but they lack the heavy hitters of Acer. I'm pretty sure Acer is the best team outside Korea right now, even with the very small lineup.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
November 20 2013 16:09 GMT
#83
Aceeer
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
metroid composite
Profile Joined February 2007
Canada231 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-20 16:16:08
November 20 2013 16:10 GMT
#84
On November 21 2013 00:52 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 00:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On November 21 2013 00:43 Promethelax wrote:
Congrats acer. Crazy that a team with only two races is the deepest line up in this competition.


I'd say Axiom is the most balanced team

They have a better balanced roster for sure, but they lack the heavy hitters of Acer. I'm pretty sure Acer is the best team outside Korea right now, even with the very small lineup.

Oh if you want to talk raw strength in an allkill format, then yes, Acer is very, very good; Aligulac does have them as the best team right now:

http://aligulac.com/teams/

Usually when people say "deepest lineup" they're referencing how strong the 4th/5th/6th best player on the team is, though.


Like...I don't think many people would dispute Bly as being 5th best in the Acer lineup, and for a 5th best player, Bly is actually unusually scary.

Like...who's the 5th best player on TL? Ret? I'd take Bly over Ret.
What about Mousesports? Mana or Hope I'm thinking? Bly is impressing me more than those two right now.
Western Wolves? They actually have only been fielding four of their own players, using the joker mechanic.
Axiom though? Fifth best player on Axiom would be...Heart maybe? Yeah, I'd believe Heart is better than Bly.
Cats land on their feet. Toast lands peanut butter side down. A cat with toast strapped to its back will hover above the ground in a state of quantum indecision
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 20 2013 16:26 GMT
#85
On November 20 2013 23:08 SinCitta wrote:
What, coL have their next match against Millenium in two hours? oO

So I guess this isn't happening?
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SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
November 20 2013 16:30 GMT
#86
On November 21 2013 01:26 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 23:08 SinCitta wrote:
What, coL have their next match against Millenium in two hours? oO

So I guess this isn't happening?



On November 21 2013 00:46 NovaMB wrote:
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On November 21 2013 00:44 SinCitta wrote:
TaKe makes no mention of the match in 15min, so don't know if there will be one or not.

TaKe mentioned in chat that it has been postponed

Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
November 20 2013 16:33 GMT
#87
Great for Axiom that MMA and Innovation didn't have to play. Now they can prepare for GSTL.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
November 20 2013 16:41 GMT
#88
On November 21 2013 00:52 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 00:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On November 21 2013 00:43 Promethelax wrote:
Congrats acer. Crazy that a team with only two races is the deepest line up in this competition.


I'd say Axiom is the most balanced team

They have a better balanced roster for sure, but they lack the heavy hitters of Acer. I'm pretty sure Acer is the best team outside Korea right now, even with the very small lineup.


I wouldn't be so sure. When it comes to foreign teams, I'd still stay mouz > acer, since I believe that
Hasuobs / Heromarine / hOpe / Lucifron / Mana / Vortix > Bly / DarkHydra / Paranoid / Nerchio / Scarlett
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 20 2013 16:43 GMT
#89
@SinCitta, thanks I missed that post
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Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
November 20 2013 17:00 GMT
#90
On November 21 2013 01:41 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 00:52 Squat wrote:
On November 21 2013 00:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On November 21 2013 00:43 Promethelax wrote:
Congrats acer. Crazy that a team with only two races is the deepest line up in this competition.


I'd say Axiom is the most balanced team

They have a better balanced roster for sure, but they lack the heavy hitters of Acer. I'm pretty sure Acer is the best team outside Korea right now, even with the very small lineup.


I wouldn't be so sure. When it comes to foreign teams, I'd still stay mouz > acer, since I believe that
Hasuobs / Heromarine / hOpe / Lucifron / Mana / Vortix > Bly / DarkHydra / Paranoid / Nerchio / Scarlett

Uhm, you kind of have to include everyone on the team, like Innovation and MMA.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
November 20 2013 17:20 GMT
#91
On November 21 2013 02:00 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 01:41 JustPassingBy wrote:
On November 21 2013 00:52 Squat wrote:
On November 21 2013 00:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On November 21 2013 00:43 Promethelax wrote:
Congrats acer. Crazy that a team with only two races is the deepest line up in this competition.


I'd say Axiom is the most balanced team

They have a better balanced roster for sure, but they lack the heavy hitters of Acer. I'm pretty sure Acer is the best team outside Korea right now, even with the very small lineup.


I wouldn't be so sure. When it comes to foreign teams, I'd still stay mouz > acer, since I believe that
Hasuobs / Heromarine / hOpe / Lucifron / Mana / Vortix > Bly / DarkHydra / Paranoid / Nerchio / Scarlett

Uhm, you kind of have to include everyone on the team, like Innovation and MMA.


He interpreted "team outside of korea" as "foreign roster". With that interpretation his statement is correct. Without it (thus including MMA/Innovation), Acer would be stronger.
Nightwishone
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy391 Posts
November 20 2013 17:27 GMT
#92
On November 21 2013 02:20 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 02:00 Squat wrote:
On November 21 2013 01:41 JustPassingBy wrote:
On November 21 2013 00:52 Squat wrote:
On November 21 2013 00:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On November 21 2013 00:43 Promethelax wrote:
Congrats acer. Crazy that a team with only two races is the deepest line up in this competition.


I'd say Axiom is the most balanced team

They have a better balanced roster for sure, but they lack the heavy hitters of Acer. I'm pretty sure Acer is the best team outside Korea right now, even with the very small lineup.


I wouldn't be so sure. When it comes to foreign teams, I'd still stay mouz > acer, since I believe that
Hasuobs / Heromarine / hOpe / Lucifron / Mana / Vortix > Bly / DarkHydra / Paranoid / Nerchio / Scarlett

Uhm, you kind of have to include everyone on the team, like Innovation and MMA.


He interpreted "team outside of korea" as "foreign roster". With that interpretation his statement is correct. Without it (thus including MMA/Innovation), Acer would be stronger.

Well, Team Liquid is leading in number of premier tournaments won this year. Acer is very strong though.
TaeJa IS a bonjwa. TLO - Scarlett - Snute - MaNa - HerO - TeamLiquid fighting!
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 20 2013 17:38 GMT
#93
On November 21 2013 02:27 Nightwishone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 02:20 Xoronius wrote:
On November 21 2013 02:00 Squat wrote:
On November 21 2013 01:41 JustPassingBy wrote:
On November 21 2013 00:52 Squat wrote:
On November 21 2013 00:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On November 21 2013 00:43 Promethelax wrote:
Congrats acer. Crazy that a team with only two races is the deepest line up in this competition.


I'd say Axiom is the most balanced team

They have a better balanced roster for sure, but they lack the heavy hitters of Acer. I'm pretty sure Acer is the best team outside Korea right now, even with the very small lineup.


I wouldn't be so sure. When it comes to foreign teams, I'd still stay mouz > acer, since I believe that
Hasuobs / Heromarine / hOpe / Lucifron / Mana / Vortix > Bly / DarkHydra / Paranoid / Nerchio / Scarlett

Uhm, you kind of have to include everyone on the team, like Innovation and MMA.


He interpreted "team outside of korea" as "foreign roster". With that interpretation his statement is correct. Without it (thus including MMA/Innovation), Acer would be stronger.

Well, Team Liquid is leading in number of premier tournaments won this year. Acer is very strong though.

poor EG only 1 gold in 8 finals appearances
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Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
November 20 2013 17:53 GMT
#94
On November 21 2013 02:27 Nightwishone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 02:20 Xoronius wrote:
On November 21 2013 02:00 Squat wrote:
On November 21 2013 01:41 JustPassingBy wrote:
On November 21 2013 00:52 Squat wrote:
On November 21 2013 00:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On November 21 2013 00:43 Promethelax wrote:
Congrats acer. Crazy that a team with only two races is the deepest line up in this competition.


I'd say Axiom is the most balanced team

They have a better balanced roster for sure, but they lack the heavy hitters of Acer. I'm pretty sure Acer is the best team outside Korea right now, even with the very small lineup.


I wouldn't be so sure. When it comes to foreign teams, I'd still stay mouz > acer, since I believe that
Hasuobs / Heromarine / hOpe / Lucifron / Mana / Vortix > Bly / DarkHydra / Paranoid / Nerchio / Scarlett

Uhm, you kind of have to include everyone on the team, like Innovation and MMA.


He interpreted "team outside of korea" as "foreign roster". With that interpretation his statement is correct. Without it (thus including MMA/Innovation), Acer would be stronger.

Well, Team Liquid is leading in number of premier tournaments won this year. Acer is very strong though.

I was saying Mouz>Acer excluding koreans and Acer>Mouz including koreans in terms of strengh. I´m not sure, what either one has to do with Liquid, since we were already very derailed from the original statement. The results of ATC however, would make a point of Acer>Liquid.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
November 20 2013 17:56 GMT
#95
Liquid? You mean Team Taeja and Friends?
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
November 20 2013 18:07 GMT
#96
On November 21 2013 02:27 Nightwishone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 02:20 Xoronius wrote:
On November 21 2013 02:00 Squat wrote:
On November 21 2013 01:41 JustPassingBy wrote:
On November 21 2013 00:52 Squat wrote:
On November 21 2013 00:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On November 21 2013 00:43 Promethelax wrote:
Congrats acer. Crazy that a team with only two races is the deepest line up in this competition.


I'd say Axiom is the most balanced team

They have a better balanced roster for sure, but they lack the heavy hitters of Acer. I'm pretty sure Acer is the best team outside Korea right now, even with the very small lineup.


I wouldn't be so sure. When it comes to foreign teams, I'd still stay mouz > acer, since I believe that
Hasuobs / Heromarine / hOpe / Lucifron / Mana / Vortix > Bly / DarkHydra / Paranoid / Nerchio / Scarlett

Uhm, you kind of have to include everyone on the team, like Innovation and MMA.


He interpreted "team outside of korea" as "foreign roster". With that interpretation his statement is correct. Without it (thus including MMA/Innovation), Acer would be stronger.

Well, Team Liquid is leading in number of premier tournaments won this year. Acer is very strong though.


That's because Liquid always has a presence at premier tournaments (they send their players everywhere). They might not have the best players, but the strategy is correct: it doesn't matter how good you are if you don't have a chance to compete
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Battousai13
Profile Joined September 2010
United States638 Posts
November 20 2013 18:16 GMT
#97
On November 21 2013 03:07 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 02:27 Nightwishone wrote:
On November 21 2013 02:20 Xoronius wrote:
On November 21 2013 02:00 Squat wrote:
On November 21 2013 01:41 JustPassingBy wrote:
On November 21 2013 00:52 Squat wrote:
On November 21 2013 00:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On November 21 2013 00:43 Promethelax wrote:
Congrats acer. Crazy that a team with only two races is the deepest line up in this competition.


I'd say Axiom is the most balanced team

They have a better balanced roster for sure, but they lack the heavy hitters of Acer. I'm pretty sure Acer is the best team outside Korea right now, even with the very small lineup.


I wouldn't be so sure. When it comes to foreign teams, I'd still stay mouz > acer, since I believe that
Hasuobs / Heromarine / hOpe / Lucifron / Mana / Vortix > Bly / DarkHydra / Paranoid / Nerchio / Scarlett

Uhm, you kind of have to include everyone on the team, like Innovation and MMA.


He interpreted "team outside of korea" as "foreign roster". With that interpretation his statement is correct. Without it (thus including MMA/Innovation), Acer would be stronger.

Well, Team Liquid is leading in number of premier tournaments won this year. Acer is very strong though.


That's because Liquid always has a presence at premier tournaments (they send their players everywhere). They might not have the best players, but the strategy is correct: it doesn't matter how good you are if you don't have a chance to compete

Not only that, but Liquid players are among the most regularly invited to events.
lightsecond
Profile Joined July 2013
8 Posts
November 20 2013 18:36 GMT
#98
I just read the rules. Basically, if Quantic wins vs Liquid they get the 4th spot. As far as I can tell no other team can get 6 wins. However, if Liquid wins, they need to win 5-2 or better to get a better map differential than mouz. Then there is also millenium, but they need to win a lot to get a better differential. (Correct me if I'm wrong)

Quantic vs Liquid should be quite the interesting match.
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
November 20 2013 18:47 GMT
#99
congratz vipro
RIP MKP
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