• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:04
CEST 21:04
KST 04:04
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror4[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10
Community News
SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup10StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026)73Weekly Cups (Sept 21-27): herO and ByuN double2Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple3BSL Season 2316
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026) SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Back to SC2 after 14 years - Protoss CTRL groups? October World Ranking: herO stays #1, ByuN returns
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Grand Finals Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) SC2 INu's Battles#21 [ 3-Days tournament ]
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 546 Catch the Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts Mutation # 544 Double Trouble
Brood War
General
20-year-old Valorant player starting StarCraft Sagi.gg Launcher Released Fantasy returning? Bot on ladder [ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror
Tourneys
[ASL22] Semifinal A [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro8 Day 4 2v2v2v2 Tournament
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Zero
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Escaping Into Video Games: G…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9443 users

[HSC VIII] Day 4 - Page 40

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 38 39 40 41 42 139 Next
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
November 17 2013 17:26 GMT
#781
On November 18 2013 02:25 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 02:20 Cereb wrote:
On November 18 2013 02:18 rasnj wrote:
On November 18 2013 02:13 Cereb wrote:
.................

First group stage:
23 non koreans vs 9 koreans.

Second group stage:
8 non koreans vs 8 koreans

Round of 8:
2 non koreans vs 6 koreans

Round of 4 ->
0 non koreans

I mean, really?

Koreans were generally invited for their skills, and in particular their skill vs other Koreans.

The same applies to some of the foreigners, but there were quite a few who were invited at least partially for their community profile, personality and to some extent convenience. No one expected Incontrol or MoMan to go far. No one (should have) expected Stephano to win. This means that the foreigners are on average of lower skill, and there are quite a few who were destined to leave in the first or at the very latest second group stage.



While this is true, it's not like we have a massive list of much better non-koreans who sat this one out.. The Koreans on the other hand.... :p



Well those numbers aren't just black and white either. The ro8 could've consisted of 5 foreigners and 3 koreans just as well. Titan, Socke and Dayshi all were 1 map away. They put up a great fight and some players are just there for the fun/personality.


its always the same story, non koreans get close but just cant make that small extra step.
savior did nothing wrong
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
November 17 2013 17:26 GMT
#782
defended his 4th, massive muta ball. has hive. Doing the runbys. Leenock playing really well
TaishiCi
Profile Joined September 2013
Korea (South)211 Posts
November 17 2013 17:27 GMT
#783
Enjoying some great gisado casting.
Suggest for anyone that can understand Korean.
Insightful, with pros/retirees phoning/texting in what they are thinking.
Dae Han Min Gook Man Sae!!!
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27460 Posts
November 17 2013 17:27 GMT
#784
On November 18 2013 02:22 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 02:20 Cereb wrote:
On November 18 2013 02:18 rasnj wrote:
On November 18 2013 02:13 Cereb wrote:
.................

First group stage:
23 non koreans vs 9 koreans.

Second group stage:
8 non koreans vs 8 koreans

Round of 8:
2 non koreans vs 6 koreans

Round of 4 ->
0 non koreans

I mean, really?

Koreans were generally invited for their skills, and in particular their skill vs other Koreans.

The same applies to some of the foreigners, but there were quite a few who were invited at least partially for their community profile, personality and to some extent convenience. No one expected Incontrol or MoMan to go far. No one (should have) expected Stephano to win. This means that the foreigners are on average of lower skill, and there are quite a few who were destined to leave in the first or at the very latest second group stage.


While this is true, it's not like we have a massive list of much better non-koreans who sat this one out.. The Koreans on the other hand.... :p

well...

Naniwa
Grubby


uhh...


i guess you're right

Grubby is another Babyknight for me, he'll be a ballet one day, bomb occasionally too.

Nani, well we know how he plays against foreigners half times
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
TL+ Member
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9224 Posts
November 17 2013 17:27 GMT
#785
leenock top3 control
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Butterz
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
688 Posts
November 17 2013 17:28 GMT
#786
people get armour upgrade for widow mines and medivacs but why not attack upgrade for widow mines??
purgerinho
Profile Joined June 2008
Croatia919 Posts
November 17 2013 17:28 GMT
#787
moman's accent is so bad to listne, i can't help myself
SUMMARIZED (by DeMu): You CANNOT surprise a top level Protoss with a build
hipo
Profile Joined November 2010
France482 Posts
November 17 2013 17:29 GMT
#788
On November 18 2013 02:28 purgerinho wrote:
moman's accent is so bad to listne, i can't help myself

Watch gisado stream, it's so much better.
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9224 Posts
November 17 2013 17:29 GMT
#789
How is leenock vs jjakji series so behind other series?
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
November 17 2013 17:30 GMT
#790
what exactly is jjakji's game plan? following the 30 muta pack whole game long?
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
absinthfee
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany718 Posts
November 17 2013 17:30 GMT
#791
On November 18 2013 02:28 Butterz wrote:
people get armour upgrade for widow mines and medivacs but why not attack upgrade for widow mines??

because widow mines dont benefit from it as far as i know.
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
November 17 2013 17:30 GMT
#792
revenge of the hidden base.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 17 2013 17:30 GMT
#793
On November 18 2013 02:29 Weavel wrote:
How is leenock vs jjakji series so behind other series?

They started symbol vs taeja before happy vs hyun finished
Glorious SEA doto
purgerinho
Profile Joined June 2008
Croatia919 Posts
November 17 2013 17:30 GMT
#794
On November 18 2013 02:29 hipo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 02:28 purgerinho wrote:
moman's accent is so bad to listne, i can't help myself

Watch gisado stream, it's so much better.


if i would understand korean maybe i would enjoy it :D
SUMMARIZED (by DeMu): You CANNOT surprise a top level Protoss with a build
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
November 17 2013 17:31 GMT
#795
On November 18 2013 02:29 Weavel wrote:
How is leenock vs jjakji series so behind other series?


hero vs taeja and babyknight vs symbol were really fast 3 - 0
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 17 2013 17:31 GMT
#796
Mass Marauder vs Mutas? :/
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
November 17 2013 17:32 GMT
#797
jjakji's looking quite dead to me. Ultras + broodlords incoming and no outstanding bank.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
November 17 2013 17:32 GMT
#798
You need many gays as zerg. Moman dropping the knowledge.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
manmaw
Profile Joined November 2013
Finland29 Posts
November 17 2013 17:32 GMT
#799
Please stop using the word "like" like everyother word. It's like really annoying, like really annoying.
hi mom!
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
November 17 2013 17:32 GMT
#800
Symbol going roach/hydra D;

why Symbol why
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Prev 1 38 39 40 41 42 139 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
01:00
#66
TKL 1831
RotterdaM944
TaKeTV 361
IndyStarCraft 196
SteadfastSC107
ZombieGrub93
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
TKL 1831
RotterdaM 944
IndyStarCraft 196
MaxPax 183
RuFF_SC2 131
SteadfastSC 107
ZombieGrub93
UpATreeSC 72
MindelVK 17
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3016
Shuttle 589
Dewaltoss 102
910 74
Zeus 72
Mind 67
ToSsGirL 20
Bale 15
Dota 2
qojqva3424
Counter-Strike
fl0m6850
pashabiceps1316
Fnx 667
Heroes of the Storm
Grubby4186
Liquid`Hasu453
Other Games
singsing1980
Beastyqt767
ceh9467
mouzStarbuck357
C9.Mang0123
ToD103
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV226
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream22
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• kabyraGe 148
• Reevou 7
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• 80smullet 16
• Eskiya23 9
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie769
• Shiphtur300
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
3h 56m
Afreeca Starleague
14h 56m
Soma vs Soulkey
INu's Battles
15h 56m
SHIN vs Cure
ByuN vs Zoun
PiGosaur Cup
1d 4h
Patches Events
1d 20h
The PondCast
2 days
INu's Battles
2 days
Percival vs TBD
TBD vs herO
OSC
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
OSC
4 days
[ Show More ]
BSL: Ladder Tournament
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Patches Events
5 days
BSL Open Qualifier
5 days
BSL Open Qualifier
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSB
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
HCC Season 3
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.