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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
November 16 2013 17:54 GMT
#1061
On November 17 2013 02:54 Zheryn wrote:
How does Happy still have so mych supply after being on 1base for 11 min? I don't understand TvP :D

Cutting SCVs.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
November 16 2013 17:55 GMT
#1062
Wow... if ToD manages to clench this series... I don't even know what to say... :o
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 16 2013 17:55 GMT
#1063
On November 17 2013 02:50 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 02:43 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:41 zev318 wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:38 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:34 Fjodorov wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:30 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:27 Tiaraju9 wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:24 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:23 Bagration wrote:
So fucking bad. You fucking hallocinate fake Void Ray. Jesus christ


I'm sure there's no pressure involved when playing in a live setting that could make you forget certain things


Why you always have to be so defensive and oversensitive about it?


Because people are always so eager to shit on pros while sitting in their own comfortable homes with full access to both information and casting. Of course there were ways for Tod to win that game. With zero pressure, he would have won it. But pressure has an effect on you that most people on TL seem to not understand. It bothers me to no end.


Thats a part of what makes a good player good and other players worse. So calling it bad when he fails to cope with the pressure in a pro game isnt wrong. One player makes huge mistakes because of not being able to handle the pressure: thats bad. Deal with it.


There is a difference between accepting that a played didn't play well and saying something like this

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 17 2013 02:23 Bagration wrote:
So fucking bad. You fucking hallocinate fake Void Ray. Jesus christ

On November 17 2013 02:27 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 02:26 Scarecrow wrote:
Happy has no honor, disgusting play


The only disgusting play I saw that game was from ToD. Absolutely brainless, like an AI


I mean, it's not like it's wrong, but it's certainly not fully taking into account the kind of pressure you're under when you're playing for money in a tournament setting.


i hope you dont watch sports.


I do, and it bothers me just as much when people make some kind of stupid comment like "even I would have scored in that situation" when discussing a Champions' League match or some shit. In most cases it's bullshit because it's so much easier to shit on people when you haven't been in a high-pressure competition yourself.


Speak for yourself. I've been in many high-pressure situations with a lot of the money on the line or for a championship. Shit happens. You just roll with it.


Of course, but it doesn't mean Joe Goalie would have performed any better in the situation. I wouldn't have an issue with it if such statements weren't regularly followed by "Even I could have..." or "Even a gold player could have...".
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slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
November 16 2013 17:55 GMT
#1064
Thorzain: ssssssssss
jjakji fan
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
November 16 2013 17:55 GMT
#1065
Throw more.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24582 Posts
November 16 2013 17:55 GMT
#1066
What a fail.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
November 16 2013 17:55 GMT
#1067
Downfall, now that you're here. How does a perfect defense against this 5 gate blink build play out? I always either lose the game or sac my natural, falling behind.

Say you scout it and go for a standard 3 rax opening.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
November 16 2013 17:55 GMT
#1068
ToD
i
l
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Applesmack
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada680 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 17:56:09
November 16 2013 17:56 GMT
#1069
Oh look... Right as his all in fails, ToD instantly loses due to his decision making.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
November 16 2013 17:56 GMT
#1070
Wow... now I am really eager to see an analysis of the game afterwards.
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
November 16 2013 17:56 GMT
#1071
oh ToD
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
November 16 2013 17:56 GMT
#1072
tod just doesn't want to play anymore
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
November 16 2013 17:56 GMT
#1073
Tod ready to party.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
November 16 2013 17:56 GMT
#1074
We need an interview with ToD after this series.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
November 16 2013 17:56 GMT
#1075
How bad does it feel to be Tod right now?
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
November 16 2013 17:56 GMT
#1076
ToD, so bad
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
November 16 2013 17:57 GMT
#1077
tod can still win
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
November 16 2013 17:57 GMT
#1078
On November 17 2013 02:54 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 02:50 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:49 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:48 TeeTS wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:43 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:41 zev318 wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:38 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:34 Fjodorov wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:30 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:27 Tiaraju9 wrote:
[quote]

Why you always have to be so defensive and oversensitive about it?


Because people are always so eager to shit on pros while sitting in their own comfortable homes with full access to both information and casting. Of course there were ways for Tod to win that game. With zero pressure, he would have won it. But pressure has an effect on you that most people on TL seem to not understand. It bothers me to no end.


Thats a part of what makes a good player good and other players worse. So calling it bad when he fails to cope with the pressure in a pro game isnt wrong. One player makes huge mistakes because of not being able to handle the pressure: thats bad. Deal with it.


There is a difference between accepting that a played didn't play well and saying something like this

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 17 2013 02:23 Bagration wrote:
So fucking bad. You fucking hallocinate fake Void Ray. Jesus christ

On November 17 2013 02:27 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 02:26 Scarecrow wrote:
Happy has no honor, disgusting play


The only disgusting play I saw that game was from ToD. Absolutely brainless, like an AI


I mean, it's not like it's wrong, but it's certainly not fully taking into account the kind of pressure you're under when you're playing for money in a tournament setting.


i hope you dont watch sports.


I do, and it bothers me just as much when people make some kind of stupid comment like "even I would have scored in that situation" when discussing a Champions' League match or some shit. In most cases it's bullshit because it's so much easier to shit on people when you haven't been in a high-pressure competition yourself.


It´s not that this is a debut tournament for ToD so... He is a very experienced pro gamer/semi pro!


So are HerO and Marineking and they've had their fair share of choking as well.


I just wanna add Bomber to this list so you don't walk away with a win


You want to, but losing to sOs is hardly a choke.


Same goes for HerO. WHAT NOW
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
ImperialFist
Profile Joined April 2013
790 Posts
November 16 2013 17:57 GMT
#1079
what is everyone talking about? Tod won the game, funny how people do not understand this match-up at all.
"In the name of Holy Terra I challenge, Take up arms, for the Emperor’s Justice falls on you!"
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
November 16 2013 17:57 GMT
#1080
On November 17 2013 02:55 DJHelium wrote:
Downfall, now that you're here. How does a perfect defense against this 5 gate blink build play out? I always either lose the game or sac my natural, falling behind.

Say you scout it and go for a standard 3 rax opening.

I think you're automatically behind with a 3 rax transition against this. You have to hit a money timing like Happy did, or Protoss will just steamroll you with his lead.
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