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Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
November 16 2013 17:45 GMT
#1021
Can't believe people are surprised by ToD's no gg.. He is like the best example of a guy who is really funny, nice and warm when everything is going his way and the moment it turns around he gets mad immediately.. :-)
magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
November 16 2013 17:46 GMT
#1022
GG ToD, back to the casters desk with you
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
November 16 2013 17:46 GMT
#1023
ToD tilting so hard here
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
iSunrise
Profile Joined June 2011
3302 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 17:47:22
November 16 2013 17:46 GMT
#1024
On November 17 2013 02:44 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 02:43 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:41 Bagration wrote:
Holy shit ToD is tilted. He had basically gotten himself a ticket to the Ro8 of HSC, but now he'll probably just lose 4 games and get eliminated.

That´s life. You´re on the top, then the map decided who´s gonna win. He still had ways to kill the vikings, but hiding in corners wins game, so let´s play HIDE and SEEK from now on.

No it doesn't, it gives you a chance for a draw. It's a racial trait of the Terran and perfectly fair as well.

There´s nothing fair about that. Just because you accepted that doesn´t make it fair.

Yes, i know it´s considered fair, but get your facts straight.

What would have been fair is when ToD didn´t have any unit anymore that could have shot air units. He had though, so it´s the map.
Applesmack
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada680 Posts
November 16 2013 17:46 GMT
#1025
ToD going to do blink all in for sure I guarantee you he can't win without cheese
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
November 16 2013 17:47 GMT
#1026
On November 17 2013 02:44 Zealously wrote:
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On November 17 2013 02:43 Undead1993 wrote:
wow no gg? really? stay cool, happy lost like the same way yesterday and ggd


Nah he didn't end a nearly won game with a draw due to a string of bad calls before losing the series

he did. he didn't even draw it he just lost it, because hyun kept expanding. and then he went on to win the second game only to lose the third, so yeah it's kinda the same only worse
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Mambo
Profile Joined February 2012
Denmark1338 Posts
November 16 2013 17:47 GMT
#1027
On November 17 2013 02:46 Applesmack wrote:
ToD going to do blink all in for sure I guarantee you he can't win without cheese

A win is a win.
Boxer | MVP | Taeja | TLO | Grubby | Bunny (danish)
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
November 16 2013 17:47 GMT
#1028
How is Happy's neck not in agony sitting like that all the time o.0
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
November 16 2013 17:47 GMT
#1029
On November 17 2013 02:45 iSunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 02:43 TheDwf wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:43 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:41 Bagration wrote:
Holy shit ToD is tilted. He had basically gotten himself a ticket to the Ro8 of HSC, but now he'll probably just lose 4 games and get eliminated.

That´s life. You´re on the top, then the map decided who´s gonna win. He still had ways to kill the vikings, but hiding in corners wins game, so let´s play HIDE and SEEK from now on.

Can't even believe you wrote this seriously.

He still had stalkers. If there where no corners, no win for Happy. So it´s the architecture of the map that got him the win. It´s ok though, you don´t have to understand that.

Well most maps do have places like that, so it's not like he was lucky to be playing on this map in particular. In any case, while I like ToD a lot, he just lost that game, the last 2 days have been a pretty weak showing from him.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
November 16 2013 17:47 GMT
#1030
Go Go ToD and take a deep breath.
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
November 16 2013 17:48 GMT
#1031
On November 17 2013 02:43 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 02:41 zev318 wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:38 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:34 Fjodorov wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:30 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:27 Tiaraju9 wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:24 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:23 Bagration wrote:
So fucking bad. You fucking hallocinate fake Void Ray. Jesus christ


I'm sure there's no pressure involved when playing in a live setting that could make you forget certain things


Why you always have to be so defensive and oversensitive about it?


Because people are always so eager to shit on pros while sitting in their own comfortable homes with full access to both information and casting. Of course there were ways for Tod to win that game. With zero pressure, he would have won it. But pressure has an effect on you that most people on TL seem to not understand. It bothers me to no end.


Thats a part of what makes a good player good and other players worse. So calling it bad when he fails to cope with the pressure in a pro game isnt wrong. One player makes huge mistakes because of not being able to handle the pressure: thats bad. Deal with it.


There is a difference between accepting that a played didn't play well and saying something like this

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 17 2013 02:23 Bagration wrote:
So fucking bad. You fucking hallocinate fake Void Ray. Jesus christ

On November 17 2013 02:27 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 02:26 Scarecrow wrote:
Happy has no honor, disgusting play


The only disgusting play I saw that game was from ToD. Absolutely brainless, like an AI


I mean, it's not like it's wrong, but it's certainly not fully taking into account the kind of pressure you're under when you're playing for money in a tournament setting.


i hope you dont watch sports.


I do, and it bothers me just as much when people make some kind of stupid comment like "even I would have scored in that situation" when discussing a Champions' League match or some shit. In most cases it's bullshit because it's so much easier to shit on people when you haven't been in a high-pressure competition yourself.


It´s not that this is a debut tournament for ToD so... He is a very experienced pro gamer/semi pro!
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
November 16 2013 17:48 GMT
#1032
On November 17 2013 02:45 iSunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 02:43 TheDwf wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:43 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:41 Bagration wrote:
Holy shit ToD is tilted. He had basically gotten himself a ticket to the Ro8 of HSC, but now he'll probably just lose 4 games and get eliminated.

That´s life. You´re on the top, then the map decided who´s gonna win. He still had ways to kill the vikings, but hiding in corners wins game, so let´s play HIDE and SEEK from now on.

Can't even believe you wrote this seriously.

He still had stalkers. If there where no corners, no win for Happy. So it´s the architecture of the map that got him the win. It´s ok though, you don´t have to understand that.

To counter, since it wouldn't have happened against any non-terran (on the same map) it's a combination of the map AND racial mechanic. Although ToD STILL should have prevailed...
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
November 16 2013 17:48 GMT
#1033
stardust ties the series up against titan. 1-1 now
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
November 16 2013 17:48 GMT
#1034
On November 17 2013 02:46 Applesmack wrote:
ToD going to do blink all in for sure I guarantee you he can't win without cheese



If you had any idea about what you are talking about you'd know that's not the case. He could go for blink all in, but this wouldn't be the reasoning for it.
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12379 Posts
November 16 2013 17:48 GMT
#1035
On November 17 2013 02:45 yoshi7319 wrote:
well, one thing i learned from HSC8 is what i´ve alwas strongly suspected and always read between the lines:
ToD is a...well, let´s just say a sore loser. and a lot of other things.


You read that between the lines?

That's been obvious about ToD for like, ever.
No will to live, no wish to die
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
November 16 2013 17:48 GMT
#1036
On November 17 2013 02:46 iSunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 02:44 Shikyo wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:43 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:41 Bagration wrote:
Holy shit ToD is tilted. He had basically gotten himself a ticket to the Ro8 of HSC, but now he'll probably just lose 4 games and get eliminated.

That´s life. You´re on the top, then the map decided who´s gonna win. He still had ways to kill the vikings, but hiding in corners wins game, so let´s play HIDE and SEEK from now on.

No it doesn't, it gives you a chance for a draw. It's a racial trait of the Terran and perfectly fair as well.

There´s nothing fair about that. Just because you accepted that doesn´t make it fair.

Yes, i know it´s considered fair, but get your facts straight.

What would have been fair is when ToD didn´t have any unit anymore that could have shot air units. He had though, so it´s the map.

No, it's not the map. It's his awful play leading him into this situation when he could have won so easily before. And even in this situation, he could have still won with hallucinated Voids.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 16 2013 17:49 GMT
#1037
On November 17 2013 02:48 TeeTS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 02:43 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:41 zev318 wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:38 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:34 Fjodorov wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:30 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:27 Tiaraju9 wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:24 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:23 Bagration wrote:
So fucking bad. You fucking hallocinate fake Void Ray. Jesus christ


I'm sure there's no pressure involved when playing in a live setting that could make you forget certain things


Why you always have to be so defensive and oversensitive about it?


Because people are always so eager to shit on pros while sitting in their own comfortable homes with full access to both information and casting. Of course there were ways for Tod to win that game. With zero pressure, he would have won it. But pressure has an effect on you that most people on TL seem to not understand. It bothers me to no end.


Thats a part of what makes a good player good and other players worse. So calling it bad when he fails to cope with the pressure in a pro game isnt wrong. One player makes huge mistakes because of not being able to handle the pressure: thats bad. Deal with it.


There is a difference between accepting that a played didn't play well and saying something like this

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 17 2013 02:23 Bagration wrote:
So fucking bad. You fucking hallocinate fake Void Ray. Jesus christ

On November 17 2013 02:27 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 02:26 Scarecrow wrote:
Happy has no honor, disgusting play


The only disgusting play I saw that game was from ToD. Absolutely brainless, like an AI


I mean, it's not like it's wrong, but it's certainly not fully taking into account the kind of pressure you're under when you're playing for money in a tournament setting.


i hope you dont watch sports.


I do, and it bothers me just as much when people make some kind of stupid comment like "even I would have scored in that situation" when discussing a Champions' League match or some shit. In most cases it's bullshit because it's so much easier to shit on people when you haven't been in a high-pressure competition yourself.


It´s not that this is a debut tournament for ToD so... He is a very experienced pro gamer/semi pro!


So are HerO and Marineking and they've had their fair share of choking as well.
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iSunrise
Profile Joined June 2011
3302 Posts
November 16 2013 17:49 GMT
#1038
On November 17 2013 02:47 Zarahtra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 02:45 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:43 TheDwf wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:43 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:41 Bagration wrote:
Holy shit ToD is tilted. He had basically gotten himself a ticket to the Ro8 of HSC, but now he'll probably just lose 4 games and get eliminated.

That´s life. You´re on the top, then the map decided who´s gonna win. He still had ways to kill the vikings, but hiding in corners wins game, so let´s play HIDE and SEEK from now on.

Can't even believe you wrote this seriously.

He still had stalkers. If there where no corners, no win for Happy. So it´s the architecture of the map that got him the win. It´s ok though, you don´t have to understand that.

Well most maps do have places like that, so it's not like he was lucky to be playing on this map in particular. In any case, while I like ToD a lot, he just lost that game, the last 2 days have been a pretty weak showing from him.

I know, I was just pointing it out, because the win was basically not him playing at all and hiding in the map corners, while ToD still had units to kill him (Happy didn´t have anything).

It´s considered perfectly legal, I know that, but it´s not fair at all. But whatever, let´s move on.
Applesmack
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada680 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 17:50:34
November 16 2013 17:50 GMT
#1039
ROFL and look at that. I can read ToD just like I can predict an AI
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
November 16 2013 17:50 GMT
#1040
On November 17 2013 02:49 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 02:48 TeeTS wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:43 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:41 zev318 wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:38 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:34 Fjodorov wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:30 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:27 Tiaraju9 wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:24 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:23 Bagration wrote:
So fucking bad. You fucking hallocinate fake Void Ray. Jesus christ


I'm sure there's no pressure involved when playing in a live setting that could make you forget certain things


Why you always have to be so defensive and oversensitive about it?


Because people are always so eager to shit on pros while sitting in their own comfortable homes with full access to both information and casting. Of course there were ways for Tod to win that game. With zero pressure, he would have won it. But pressure has an effect on you that most people on TL seem to not understand. It bothers me to no end.


Thats a part of what makes a good player good and other players worse. So calling it bad when he fails to cope with the pressure in a pro game isnt wrong. One player makes huge mistakes because of not being able to handle the pressure: thats bad. Deal with it.


There is a difference between accepting that a played didn't play well and saying something like this

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 17 2013 02:23 Bagration wrote:
So fucking bad. You fucking hallocinate fake Void Ray. Jesus christ

On November 17 2013 02:27 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 02:26 Scarecrow wrote:
Happy has no honor, disgusting play


The only disgusting play I saw that game was from ToD. Absolutely brainless, like an AI


I mean, it's not like it's wrong, but it's certainly not fully taking into account the kind of pressure you're under when you're playing for money in a tournament setting.


i hope you dont watch sports.


I do, and it bothers me just as much when people make some kind of stupid comment like "even I would have scored in that situation" when discussing a Champions' League match or some shit. In most cases it's bullshit because it's so much easier to shit on people when you haven't been in a high-pressure competition yourself.


It´s not that this is a debut tournament for ToD so... He is a very experienced pro gamer/semi pro!


So are HerO and Marineking and they've had their fair share of choking as well.


I just wanna add Bomber to this list so you don't walk away with a win
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