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On November 17 2013 02:43 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2013 02:41 zev318 wrote:On November 17 2013 02:38 Zealously wrote:On November 17 2013 02:34 Fjodorov wrote:On November 17 2013 02:30 Zealously wrote:On November 17 2013 02:27 Tiaraju9 wrote:On November 17 2013 02:24 Zealously wrote:On November 17 2013 02:23 Bagration wrote:
So fucking bad. You fucking hallocinate fake Void Ray. Jesus christ I'm sure there's no pressure involved when playing in a live setting that could make you forget certain things Why you always have to be so defensive and oversensitive about it? Because people are always so eager to shit on pros while sitting in their own comfortable homes with full access to both information and casting. Of course there were ways for Tod to win that game. With zero pressure, he would have won it. But pressure has an effect on you that most people on TL seem to not understand. It bothers me to no end. Thats a part of what makes a good player good and other players worse. So calling it bad when he fails to cope with the pressure in a pro game isnt wrong. One player makes huge mistakes because of not being able to handle the pressure: thats bad. Deal with it. There is a difference between accepting that a played didn't play well and saying something like this + Show Spoiler +On November 17 2013 02:23 Bagration wrote:
So fucking bad. You fucking hallocinate fake Void Ray. Jesus christ On November 17 2013 02:27 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2013 02:26 Scarecrow wrote:
Happy has no honor, disgusting play The only disgusting play I saw that game was from ToD. Absolutely brainless, like an AI I mean, it's not like it's wrong, but it's certainly not fully taking into account the kind of pressure you're under when you're playing for money in a tournament setting. i hope you dont watch sports. I do, and it bothers me just as much when people make some kind of stupid comment like "even I would have scored in that situation" when discussing a Champions' League match or some shit. In most cases it's bullshit because it's so much easier to shit on people when you haven't been in a high-pressure competition yourself.
Speak for yourself. I've been in many high-pressure situations with a lot of the money on the line or for a championship. Shit happens. You just roll with it.
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I think PengWin has the voice of husky and the word flow of Chobra
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On November 17 2013 02:48 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2013 02:45 yoshi7319 wrote:
well, one thing i learned from HSC8 is what i´ve alwas strongly suspected and always read between the lines:
ToD is a...well, let´s just say a sore loser. and a lot of other things. You read that between the lines? That's been obvious about ToD for like, ever.
what i meant was: progamers tell stories about ToD being totally BM on ladder with a smile, while never
saying what they really think: the guy´s a total cnut who´s covering it up when on camera.
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On November 17 2013 02:48 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2013 02:46 iSunrise wrote:On November 17 2013 02:44 Shikyo wrote:On November 17 2013 02:43 iSunrise wrote:On November 17 2013 02:41 Bagration wrote:
Holy shit ToD is tilted. He had basically gotten himself a ticket to the Ro8 of HSC, but now he'll probably just lose 4 games and get eliminated. That´s life. You´re on the top, then the map decided who´s gonna win. He still had ways to kill the vikings, but hiding in corners wins game, so let´s play HIDE and SEEK from now on. No it doesn't, it gives you a chance for a draw. It's a racial trait of the Terran and perfectly fair as well. There´s nothing fair about that. Just because you accepted that doesn´t make it fair. Yes, i know it´s considered fair, but get your facts straight. What would have been fair is when ToD didn´t have any unit anymore that could have shot air units. He had though, so it´s the map. No, it's not the map. It's his awful play leading him into this situation when he could have won so easily before. And even in this situation, he could have still won with hallucinated Voids.
Yes, it´s the map, because without corners to hide in, he wouldn´t have used that "strategy" to force a tie. You obviously have no sense of logic. ToD had units to kill him, Happy couldn´t kill him, so he used that strategy.
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On November 17 2013 02:51 yoshi7319 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2013 02:48 Nebuchad wrote:On November 17 2013 02:45 yoshi7319 wrote:
well, one thing i learned from HSC8 is what i´ve alwas strongly suspected and always read between the lines:
ToD is a...well, let´s just say a sore loser. and a lot of other things. You read that between the lines? That's been obvious about ToD for like, ever. what i meant was: progamers tell stories about ToD being totally BM on ladder with a smile, while never saying what they really think: the guy´s a total cnut who´s covering it up when on camera.
He's a cnut? That adorable little polar bear in Germany?
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On November 17 2013 02:49 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2013 02:48 TeeTS wrote:On November 17 2013 02:43 Zealously wrote:On November 17 2013 02:41 zev318 wrote:On November 17 2013 02:38 Zealously wrote:On November 17 2013 02:34 Fjodorov wrote:On November 17 2013 02:30 Zealously wrote:On November 17 2013 02:27 Tiaraju9 wrote:On November 17 2013 02:24 Zealously wrote:On November 17 2013 02:23 Bagration wrote:
So fucking bad. You fucking hallocinate fake Void Ray. Jesus christ I'm sure there's no pressure involved when playing in a live setting that could make you forget certain things Why you always have to be so defensive and oversensitive about it? Because people are always so eager to shit on pros while sitting in their own comfortable homes with full access to both information and casting. Of course there were ways for Tod to win that game. With zero pressure, he would have won it. But pressure has an effect on you that most people on TL seem to not understand. It bothers me to no end. Thats a part of what makes a good player good and other players worse. So calling it bad when he fails to cope with the pressure in a pro game isnt wrong. One player makes huge mistakes because of not being able to handle the pressure: thats bad. Deal with it. There is a difference between accepting that a played didn't play well and saying something like this + Show Spoiler +On November 17 2013 02:23 Bagration wrote:
So fucking bad. You fucking hallocinate fake Void Ray. Jesus christ On November 17 2013 02:27 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2013 02:26 Scarecrow wrote:
Happy has no honor, disgusting play The only disgusting play I saw that game was from ToD. Absolutely brainless, like an AI I mean, it's not like it's wrong, but it's certainly not fully taking into account the kind of pressure you're under when you're playing for money in a tournament setting. i hope you dont watch sports. I do, and it bothers me just as much when people make some kind of stupid comment like "even I would have scored in that situation" when discussing a Champions' League match or some shit. In most cases it's bullshit because it's so much easier to shit on people when you haven't been in a high-pressure competition yourself. It´s not that this is a debut tournament for ToD so... He is a very experienced pro gamer/semi pro! So are HerO and Marineking and they've had their fair share of choking as well.
Good thing they have a few wins as well. Both their styles work against them with high risk high reward. You mess up and you be dead.
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On November 17 2013 02:51 slowbacontron wrote:
I think PengWin has the voice of husky and the word flow of Chobra
But somehow I don't dig his casting, maybe it just feels out of place at HSC.
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On November 17 2013 02:52 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2013 02:51 yoshi7319 wrote:On November 17 2013 02:48 Nebuchad wrote:On November 17 2013 02:45 yoshi7319 wrote:
well, one thing i learned from HSC8 is what i´ve alwas strongly suspected and always read between the lines:
ToD is a...well, let´s just say a sore loser. and a lot of other things. You read that between the lines? That's been obvious about ToD for like, ever. what i meant was: progamers tell stories about ToD being totally BM on ladder with a smile, while never saying what they really think: the guy´s a total cnut who´s covering it up when on camera. He's a cnut? That adorable little polar bear in Germany?
nope, that´s Knut. ;-)
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ToD is in a good shape, right ?
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wow didn't lost a stalker that looked so risky to snipe the workers.
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On November 17 2013 02:46 iSunrise wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2013 02:44 Shikyo wrote:On November 17 2013 02:43 iSunrise wrote:On November 17 2013 02:41 Bagration wrote:
Holy shit ToD is tilted. He had basically gotten himself a ticket to the Ro8 of HSC, but now he'll probably just lose 4 games and get eliminated. That´s life. You´re on the top, then the map decided who´s gonna win. He still had ways to kill the vikings, but hiding in corners wins game, so let´s play HIDE and SEEK from now on. No it doesn't, it gives you a chance for a draw. It's a racial trait of the Terran and perfectly fair as well. There´s nothing fair about that. Just because you accepted that doesn´t make it fair. Yes, i know it´s considered fair, but get your facts straight. What would have been fair is when ToD didn´t have any unit anymore that could have shot air units. He had though, so it´s the map.
So what, plenty of toss wins come from one Forcefield wide ramps with warp prism drops. You have to take map features into account when you play. Blink all-in works better on some map than others, same with harass and drops. Some maps are just better for it.
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I enjoy this casting so much more than what we get from bitterdam, tastostis etc.
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How does Happy still have so mych supply after being on 1base for 11 min? I don't understand TvP :D
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On November 17 2013 02:51 yoshi7319 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2013 02:48 Nebuchad wrote:On November 17 2013 02:45 yoshi7319 wrote:
well, one thing i learned from HSC8 is what i´ve alwas strongly suspected and always read between the lines:
ToD is a...well, let´s just say a sore loser. and a lot of other things. You read that between the lines? That's been obvious about ToD for like, ever. what i meant was: progamers tell stories about ToD being totally BM on ladder with a smile, while never saying what they really think: the guy´s a total cnut who´s covering it up when on camera.
Looks like what you meant is pure bullshit, then.
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On November 17 2013 02:50 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2013 02:49 Zealously wrote:On November 17 2013 02:48 TeeTS wrote:On November 17 2013 02:43 Zealously wrote:On November 17 2013 02:41 zev318 wrote:On November 17 2013 02:38 Zealously wrote:On November 17 2013 02:34 Fjodorov wrote:On November 17 2013 02:30 Zealously wrote:On November 17 2013 02:27 Tiaraju9 wrote:On November 17 2013 02:24 Zealously wrote:
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I'm sure there's no pressure involved when playing in a live setting that could make you forget certain things Why you always have to be so defensive and oversensitive about it? Because people are always so eager to shit on pros while sitting in their own comfortable homes with full access to both information and casting. Of course there were ways for Tod to win that game. With zero pressure, he would have won it. But pressure has an effect on you that most people on TL seem to not understand. It bothers me to no end. Thats a part of what makes a good player good and other players worse. So calling it bad when he fails to cope with the pressure in a pro game isnt wrong. One player makes huge mistakes because of not being able to handle the pressure: thats bad. Deal with it. There is a difference between accepting that a played didn't play well and saying something like this + Show Spoiler +On November 17 2013 02:23 Bagration wrote:
So fucking bad. You fucking hallocinate fake Void Ray. Jesus christ On November 17 2013 02:27 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2013 02:26 Scarecrow wrote:
Happy has no honor, disgusting play The only disgusting play I saw that game was from ToD. Absolutely brainless, like an AI I mean, it's not like it's wrong, but it's certainly not fully taking into account the kind of pressure you're under when you're playing for money in a tournament setting. i hope you dont watch sports. I do, and it bothers me just as much when people make some kind of stupid comment like "even I would have scored in that situation" when discussing a Champions' League match or some shit. In most cases it's bullshit because it's so much easier to shit on people when you haven't been in a high-pressure competition yourself. It´s not that this is a debut tournament for ToD so... He is a very experienced pro gamer/semi pro! So are HerO and Marineking and they've had their fair share of choking as well. I just wanna add Bomber to this list so you don't walk away with a win
You want to, but losing to sOs is hardly a choke.
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Everybody hates on Stardust for playing cheesy, ToD is no better
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Thank you Twitch, run fine for 3 days and then suddenly decide to lag. Classy.
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