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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 16 2013 17:50 GMT
#1041
On November 17 2013 02:43 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 02:41 zev318 wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:38 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:34 Fjodorov wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:30 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:27 Tiaraju9 wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:24 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:23 Bagration wrote:
So fucking bad. You fucking hallocinate fake Void Ray. Jesus christ


I'm sure there's no pressure involved when playing in a live setting that could make you forget certain things


Why you always have to be so defensive and oversensitive about it?


Because people are always so eager to shit on pros while sitting in their own comfortable homes with full access to both information and casting. Of course there were ways for Tod to win that game. With zero pressure, he would have won it. But pressure has an effect on you that most people on TL seem to not understand. It bothers me to no end.


Thats a part of what makes a good player good and other players worse. So calling it bad when he fails to cope with the pressure in a pro game isnt wrong. One player makes huge mistakes because of not being able to handle the pressure: thats bad. Deal with it.


There is a difference between accepting that a played didn't play well and saying something like this

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 17 2013 02:23 Bagration wrote:
So fucking bad. You fucking hallocinate fake Void Ray. Jesus christ

On November 17 2013 02:27 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 02:26 Scarecrow wrote:
Happy has no honor, disgusting play


The only disgusting play I saw that game was from ToD. Absolutely brainless, like an AI


I mean, it's not like it's wrong, but it's certainly not fully taking into account the kind of pressure you're under when you're playing for money in a tournament setting.


i hope you dont watch sports.


I do, and it bothers me just as much when people make some kind of stupid comment like "even I would have scored in that situation" when discussing a Champions' League match or some shit. In most cases it's bullshit because it's so much easier to shit on people when you haven't been in a high-pressure competition yourself.


Speak for yourself. I've been in many high-pressure situations with a lot of the money on the line or for a championship. Shit happens. You just roll with it.
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
November 16 2013 17:51 GMT
#1042
I think PengWin has the voice of husky and the word flow of Chobra
jjakji fan
yoshi7319
Profile Joined December 2011
76 Posts
November 16 2013 17:51 GMT
#1043
On November 17 2013 02:48 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 02:45 yoshi7319 wrote:
well, one thing i learned from HSC8 is what i´ve alwas strongly suspected and always read between the lines:
ToD is a...well, let´s just say a sore loser. and a lot of other things.


You read that between the lines?

That's been obvious about ToD for like, ever.


what i meant was: progamers tell stories about ToD being totally BM on ladder with a smile, while never
saying what they really think: the guy´s a total cnut who´s covering it up when on camera.
mycro
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1579 Posts
November 16 2013 17:51 GMT
#1044
Happy the oracle
iSunrise
Profile Joined June 2011
3302 Posts
November 16 2013 17:51 GMT
#1045
On November 17 2013 02:48 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 02:46 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:44 Shikyo wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:43 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:41 Bagration wrote:
Holy shit ToD is tilted. He had basically gotten himself a ticket to the Ro8 of HSC, but now he'll probably just lose 4 games and get eliminated.

That´s life. You´re on the top, then the map decided who´s gonna win. He still had ways to kill the vikings, but hiding in corners wins game, so let´s play HIDE and SEEK from now on.

No it doesn't, it gives you a chance for a draw. It's a racial trait of the Terran and perfectly fair as well.

There´s nothing fair about that. Just because you accepted that doesn´t make it fair.

Yes, i know it´s considered fair, but get your facts straight.

What would have been fair is when ToD didn´t have any unit anymore that could have shot air units. He had though, so it´s the map.

No, it's not the map. It's his awful play leading him into this situation when he could have won so easily before. And even in this situation, he could have still won with hallucinated Voids.

Yes, it´s the map, because without corners to hide in, he wouldn´t have used that "strategy" to force a tie. You obviously have no sense of logic. ToD had units to kill him, Happy couldn´t kill him, so he used that strategy.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24602 Posts
November 16 2013 17:52 GMT
#1046
On November 17 2013 02:51 yoshi7319 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 02:48 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:45 yoshi7319 wrote:
well, one thing i learned from HSC8 is what i´ve alwas strongly suspected and always read between the lines:
ToD is a...well, let´s just say a sore loser. and a lot of other things.


You read that between the lines?

That's been obvious about ToD for like, ever.


what i meant was: progamers tell stories about ToD being totally BM on ladder with a smile, while never
saying what they really think: the guy´s a total cnut who´s covering it up when on camera.


He's a cnut? That adorable little polar bear in Germany?
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 17:53:06
November 16 2013 17:52 GMT
#1047
On November 17 2013 02:49 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 02:48 TeeTS wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:43 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:41 zev318 wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:38 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:34 Fjodorov wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:30 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:27 Tiaraju9 wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:24 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:23 Bagration wrote:
So fucking bad. You fucking hallocinate fake Void Ray. Jesus christ


I'm sure there's no pressure involved when playing in a live setting that could make you forget certain things


Why you always have to be so defensive and oversensitive about it?


Because people are always so eager to shit on pros while sitting in their own comfortable homes with full access to both information and casting. Of course there were ways for Tod to win that game. With zero pressure, he would have won it. But pressure has an effect on you that most people on TL seem to not understand. It bothers me to no end.


Thats a part of what makes a good player good and other players worse. So calling it bad when he fails to cope with the pressure in a pro game isnt wrong. One player makes huge mistakes because of not being able to handle the pressure: thats bad. Deal with it.


There is a difference between accepting that a played didn't play well and saying something like this

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 17 2013 02:23 Bagration wrote:
So fucking bad. You fucking hallocinate fake Void Ray. Jesus christ

On November 17 2013 02:27 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 02:26 Scarecrow wrote:
Happy has no honor, disgusting play


The only disgusting play I saw that game was from ToD. Absolutely brainless, like an AI


I mean, it's not like it's wrong, but it's certainly not fully taking into account the kind of pressure you're under when you're playing for money in a tournament setting.


i hope you dont watch sports.


I do, and it bothers me just as much when people make some kind of stupid comment like "even I would have scored in that situation" when discussing a Champions' League match or some shit. In most cases it's bullshit because it's so much easier to shit on people when you haven't been in a high-pressure competition yourself.


It´s not that this is a debut tournament for ToD so... He is a very experienced pro gamer/semi pro!


So are HerO and Marineking and they've had their fair share of choking as well.



Good thing they have a few wins as well. Both their styles work against them with high risk high reward. You mess up and you be dead.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 16 2013 17:52 GMT
#1048
On November 17 2013 02:51 slowbacontron wrote:
I think PengWin has the voice of husky and the word flow of Chobra


But somehow I don't dig his casting, maybe it just feels out of place at HSC.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
yoshi7319
Profile Joined December 2011
76 Posts
November 16 2013 17:52 GMT
#1049
On November 17 2013 02:52 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 02:51 yoshi7319 wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:48 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:45 yoshi7319 wrote:
well, one thing i learned from HSC8 is what i´ve alwas strongly suspected and always read between the lines:
ToD is a...well, let´s just say a sore loser. and a lot of other things.


You read that between the lines?

That's been obvious about ToD for like, ever.


what i meant was: progamers tell stories about ToD being totally BM on ladder with a smile, while never
saying what they really think: the guy´s a total cnut who´s covering it up when on camera.


He's a cnut? That adorable little polar bear in Germany?


nope, that´s Knut. ;-)
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
November 16 2013 17:52 GMT
#1050
ToD is in a good shape, right ?
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
November 16 2013 17:52 GMT
#1051
wow didn't lost a stalker that looked so risky to snipe the workers.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
November 16 2013 17:53 GMT
#1052
On November 17 2013 02:46 iSunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 02:44 Shikyo wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:43 iSunrise wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:41 Bagration wrote:
Holy shit ToD is tilted. He had basically gotten himself a ticket to the Ro8 of HSC, but now he'll probably just lose 4 games and get eliminated.

That´s life. You´re on the top, then the map decided who´s gonna win. He still had ways to kill the vikings, but hiding in corners wins game, so let´s play HIDE and SEEK from now on.

No it doesn't, it gives you a chance for a draw. It's a racial trait of the Terran and perfectly fair as well.

There´s nothing fair about that. Just because you accepted that doesn´t make it fair.

Yes, i know it´s considered fair, but get your facts straight.

What would have been fair is when ToD didn´t have any unit anymore that could have shot air units. He had though, so it´s the map.


So what, plenty of toss wins come from one Forcefield wide ramps with warp prism drops. You have to take map features into account when you play. Blink all-in works better on some map than others, same with harass and drops. Some maps are just better for it.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
November 16 2013 17:53 GMT
#1053
I enjoy this casting so much more than what we get from bitterdam, tastostis etc.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24602 Posts
November 16 2013 17:53 GMT
#1054
Mouse recall
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
November 16 2013 17:53 GMT
#1055
Town portal :D
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
November 16 2013 17:54 GMT
#1056
How does Happy still have so mych supply after being on 1base for 11 min? I don't understand TvP :D
hundred thousand krouner
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12449 Posts
November 16 2013 17:54 GMT
#1057
On November 17 2013 02:51 yoshi7319 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 02:48 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:45 yoshi7319 wrote:
well, one thing i learned from HSC8 is what i´ve alwas strongly suspected and always read between the lines:
ToD is a...well, let´s just say a sore loser. and a lot of other things.


You read that between the lines?

That's been obvious about ToD for like, ever.


what i meant was: progamers tell stories about ToD being totally BM on ladder with a smile, while never
saying what they really think: the guy´s a total cnut who´s covering it up when on camera.


Looks like what you meant is pure bullshit, then.
No will to live, no wish to die
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 16 2013 17:54 GMT
#1058
On November 17 2013 02:50 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 02:49 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:48 TeeTS wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:43 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:41 zev318 wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:38 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:34 Fjodorov wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:30 Zealously wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:27 Tiaraju9 wrote:
On November 17 2013 02:24 Zealously wrote:
[quote]

I'm sure there's no pressure involved when playing in a live setting that could make you forget certain things


Why you always have to be so defensive and oversensitive about it?


Because people are always so eager to shit on pros while sitting in their own comfortable homes with full access to both information and casting. Of course there were ways for Tod to win that game. With zero pressure, he would have won it. But pressure has an effect on you that most people on TL seem to not understand. It bothers me to no end.


Thats a part of what makes a good player good and other players worse. So calling it bad when he fails to cope with the pressure in a pro game isnt wrong. One player makes huge mistakes because of not being able to handle the pressure: thats bad. Deal with it.


There is a difference between accepting that a played didn't play well and saying something like this

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 17 2013 02:23 Bagration wrote:
So fucking bad. You fucking hallocinate fake Void Ray. Jesus christ

On November 17 2013 02:27 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 02:26 Scarecrow wrote:
Happy has no honor, disgusting play


The only disgusting play I saw that game was from ToD. Absolutely brainless, like an AI


I mean, it's not like it's wrong, but it's certainly not fully taking into account the kind of pressure you're under when you're playing for money in a tournament setting.


i hope you dont watch sports.


I do, and it bothers me just as much when people make some kind of stupid comment like "even I would have scored in that situation" when discussing a Champions' League match or some shit. In most cases it's bullshit because it's so much easier to shit on people when you haven't been in a high-pressure competition yourself.


It´s not that this is a debut tournament for ToD so... He is a very experienced pro gamer/semi pro!


So are HerO and Marineking and they've had their fair share of choking as well.


I just wanna add Bomber to this list so you don't walk away with a win


You want to, but losing to sOs is hardly a choke.
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magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
November 16 2013 17:54 GMT
#1059
Everybody hates on Stardust for playing cheesy, ToD is no better
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
November 16 2013 17:54 GMT
#1060
Thank you Twitch, run fine for 3 days and then suddenly decide to lag. Classy.
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