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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
November 12 2013 20:50 GMT
#101
On November 13 2013 01:56 Nomzter wrote:
I hope Soulkey crushes this

So do i. Only real problem for him is Sora.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
TaishiCi
Profile Joined September 2013
Korea (South)211 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-12 22:42:21
November 12 2013 22:42 GMT
#102
Looks like a pretty weak line-up.
It is going to be the 3 Koreans trying to get top place.
Dae Han Min Gook Man Sae!!!
havok55
Profile Joined May 2013
United States276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-12 22:45:26
November 12 2013 22:44 GMT
#103
See guys this is what WCS could have been with region lock! Every bracket: 1 Korean vs 1 decent player vs some mid-tier randoms vs players that arent even on liquidpedia >_>
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
November 12 2013 23:17 GMT
#104
Keep in mind that WCGs are not always 1st-2nd-3rd sweeps for Koreans, and in SC2 they actually never have been. For whatever reason both the Koreans who didn't win somewhat underperformed in both of the last two years. And NEVER 4GET hewhoshantbenamed vs. Parting! Upsets are always possible, though of course I hope a Korean still wins to continue the streak.
jjakji fan
LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
November 13 2013 00:29 GMT
#105
This tournament is probably a foreigner's best chance to win a premier.
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2721 Posts
November 13 2013 01:39 GMT
#106
Hope Jim wins this one, no terrans to stop him :D
very illegal and very uncool
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-13 03:24:18
November 13 2013 03:20 GMT
#107
On November 13 2013 02:03 10bulgares wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2013 01:10 WGT-Baal wrote:
The WCG are organized locally, if a country does not send players, WCG can't do anything about it, blame your own country!

Yeah but who decides to give two slots to Jordan? Maybe it was two slots for the whole middle east or something like this.


I know why we have 2 slots.....and it aint a good reason

aside from what I have in my mind , each country can send up to 3
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44283 Posts
November 13 2013 03:59 GMT
#108
its odd to see a tournament player list that is not infested with only koreans .. not that i hate them .. its just odd ..fresh for a new perspective
this is a quote
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 13 2013 04:06 GMT
#109
On November 13 2013 01:09 Dalnore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2013 16:55 Raigeki wrote:
whats the prizepool for this years wcg

1st $30,000
2nd $15,000
3rd $7,500
Source: http://www.wcg.com/renew/fun/news/news_view.asp?keyno=C13111110000

I can't believe this is actually going up each year.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 13 2013 04:14 GMT
#110
On November 13 2013 05:50 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2013 01:56 Nomzter wrote:
I hope Soulkey crushes this

So do i. Only real problem for him is Sora.


PartinG has beat him several times too.
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
November 13 2013 06:22 GMT
#111
Time for Soulkey to win something
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
November 13 2013 06:45 GMT
#112
On November 13 2013 07:44 havok55 wrote:
See guys this is what WCS could have been with region lock! Every bracket: 1 Korean vs 1 decent player vs some mid-tier randoms vs players that arent even on liquidpedia >_>


Yeah right, because that is exactly how WCS EU looks like: Infested by players without liquipedia entries just behind the handful of invading Koreans.
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-13 07:19:24
November 13 2013 07:17 GMT
#113
On November 13 2013 12:59 goody153 wrote:
its odd to see a tournament player list that is not infested with only koreans .. not that i hate them .. its just odd ..fresh for a new perspective


I agree! It's going to be nice to get to know a bunch of new players from all over the world.
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
Seph02
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands221 Posts
November 13 2013 07:52 GMT
#114
WCG without representatives from Sweden, the Netherlands and Ukraine ?? It doesn't make any sense..
Starcraft is for life
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2057 Posts
November 13 2013 07:57 GMT
#115
Why are there three south koreans participating? It would be tough for anybody else to win even if there was just one.
jarod
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania766 Posts
November 13 2013 08:05 GMT
#116
a lot of countries are missing players.. anyone know why?"
Maru | Life | herO
alexanderzero
Profile Joined June 2008
United States659 Posts
November 13 2013 08:31 GMT
#117
How did they choose which players are representing Korea? It seems like a really random selection...
I am a tournament organizazer.
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
November 13 2013 08:34 GMT
#118
On November 13 2013 17:31 alexanderzero wrote:
How did they choose which players are representing Korea? It seems like a really random selection...

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/World_Cyber_Games_2013/Qualifiers/Korea
jjakji fan
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-13 08:37:21
November 13 2013 08:36 GMT
#119
On November 13 2013 16:57 herMan wrote:
Why are there three south koreans participating? It would be tough for anybody else to win even if there was just one.

They need 3, to make sure, to win this thing. 2011 Titan knocked out Supernova early and MKP fell to Kas in the quarterfinals, 2012 Lowely knocked out Yonghwa and MKP. Same thing in ESWC and Iesf, where there were foreign world champions in both years. 3 Koreans seems to be the magic number, to make sure, the tournament gets won.
dampv
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden83 Posts
November 13 2013 09:04 GMT
#120
Right, since there seems to be quite a bit of confusion about how the WCG system works I'll explain it.

First of all, WCG obviously tries to be "the olympics of esports", this means that the only paid finishes are the top 3 in each tournament and that there is a cap on how many players every country can send in each game. For single player games this has almost always been capped at three players per country. In 2002 boxer was qualified automatically as the reigning champion which meant South Korea had 4 representatives in brood war, boxer went on to defend his title.

Second, the WCG do NOT organize their own qualifiers and do NOT pay for travel or accomodation for the players, this means that if there is a lack of local/national sponsors, there will not be a qualifier. Almost all qualifiers have been always been national, with participation limited to citizens of the country hosting the qualifier, there have been a few instances of regional qualifiers iirc, for instance the nordic region had a single qualifier where all five countries competed for a single spot in the Counter-Strike tournament a few years back.

So, the reason that some really obscure countries are represented in SC2 and brood war is that there is at least one person with more money than sense who is ready to fork out a few grand for the plane ticket and hotel room. Historically, this has always been the case in brood war and SC2, for instance in 2006 the following countries sent players in brood war:

Colombia, Uzbekistan (he made it out of the group), Vietnam, Philipines, Kazakhstan, Mexico, Slovakia, Moldova, Ireland, Serbia, Hungary and Croatia. How many decent SC2 players from these countries can you name ? No players from the nordic region or benelux was there to compete.

Organizing the qualifiers in this fashion may have made some sense +10 years ago when there where very few players with sponsors willing to send them halfway around the world, today it makes very little sense. A way to solve this would be to have a qualifier without paid accomodation, so that players with sponsors or who are willing to pay for their own tickets still can participate if there is a lack of local sponsors. WCG also needs to get with the times and have smaller groups with BO3 instead of BO1 and change to a flatter payout structure, if there is a $50k prize pool there really is no reason to only have three paid places.

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