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[WCS Finals] Day 3 Season 3 Grand Finals 2013 - Page 4

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Please avoid balance whining as usual.
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
October 27 2013 15:50 GMT
#61
SK to take it all.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 27 2013 15:54 GMT
#62
On October 28 2013 00:46 Elite_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 00:45 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 28 2013 00:31 Elite_ wrote:
On October 28 2013 00:30 Darkhoarse wrote:
Oz, this is your time to get a tournament win. You just have to beat probably the best Zerg in the world, then make the finals so you can play either the best Protoss in the world or the best Terran in the world. You got this.

To be fair, Soulkey is 0-2 against Protoss in this event so far while Oz is 2-1 against Zerg.

0-2 in this event, 7-1 in WCS KR S3 :D

Yeah, but all those ZvPs are from like a month ago... A lot can change in this amount of time. :D

Just checked. 5 of them are from 2 months ago, 3 from 1 month ago. lol

Also Oz is 6-1 in PvZ in WCS AM S3. Oz 8-2, Soulkey 7-3. Oz > Soulkey?

Naniwa fans are about to cry. Thank god i hate Naniwa.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Applesmack
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada680 Posts
October 27 2013 16:03 GMT
#63
On October 28 2013 00:54 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 00:46 Elite_ wrote:
On October 28 2013 00:45 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 28 2013 00:31 Elite_ wrote:
On October 28 2013 00:30 Darkhoarse wrote:
Oz, this is your time to get a tournament win. You just have to beat probably the best Zerg in the world, then make the finals so you can play either the best Protoss in the world or the best Terran in the world. You got this.

To be fair, Soulkey is 0-2 against Protoss in this event so far while Oz is 2-1 against Zerg.

0-2 in this event, 7-1 in WCS KR S3 :D

Yeah, but all those ZvPs are from like a month ago... A lot can change in this amount of time. :D

Just checked. 5 of them are from 2 months ago, 3 from 1 month ago. lol

Also Oz is 6-1 in PvZ in WCS AM S3. Oz 8-2, Soulkey 7-3. Oz > Soulkey?

Naniwa fans are about to cry. Thank god i hate Naniwa.


Think I'll cry more for Soulkey losing to someone as mediocre as Oz
FrvPssn
Profile Joined August 2013
France402 Posts
October 27 2013 16:08 GMT
#64
On October 28 2013 00:36 kc2siq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 00:08 FrvPssn wrote:
They only compare the wcs points within top 16 because it's just for seeding. There's no reason you have to play extra match if you're already in.
On the other hand, it's important for 16/17th place. It's the matter of in and out. Every point counts. Extra match is the best way to sort it out. If they compare the wcs points, it's unfair and it belittles other Tier 1 tourneys like DH and IEM.
Having said that, I want Naniwa and Revival both out. Places for Trap and Dear.


I would personally argue that there's an unfair advantage for players who have the funding and support to go to events like DH and IEM (ex. Taeja) whereas lesser known players or players in financially strapped teams (ex. maru) would have trouble flying to these events.

Though, I get the idea that those tournaments should be worth something which I agree. Maybe a little less than what they are worth now since a large portion of the player pool isn't able to play. Though Blizzard already made the points less than WCS so my argument would be more of how much each tournament should be worth and that's extremely subjective.

Oh wells. It is what it is.


IMO, that's quite fair. It's the players' problems (or teams' problem) if they can or cannot participate in certain tourneys. It's not the fault of the system. Those tournaments were open to anyone willing to participate, only the teams don't want to or can't send their players. So it's actually unfair if you reduce the worth of the tournaments in term of points rewarded because "large portion of the player pool isn't able to play"
For the night is dark and full of Terran!!!
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
October 27 2013 16:11 GMT
#65
Oz will win the whole thing.
The Bomber boy
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 27 2013 16:15 GMT
#66
On October 28 2013 01:11 Wintex wrote:
Oz will win the whole thing.

Yes, Please.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
October 27 2013 16:18 GMT
#67
Even though there is a Terran left I want Dear or Oz to take this whole thing. But I expect Byul to atleast make it to the finals.
No Mvp, no care. ~ the King will be back | Shawn Ray, Kevin Levrone, Phil Heath |
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
October 27 2013 16:20 GMT
#68
OK, so if we put aside the whole Naniwa thing for a mount, let's have a look at the Ro8 from a longer perspective than just this season: it's acutally a pretty surprising lineup. The only seriously established top players in here are Maru and Soulkey. Obviously, MC and MMA are long time champions, but both of them are players with very unstable results. And the rest? Oz, Dear, Trap, ByuL - is there anyone who would predict these four to be where they are half a year ago? People are complaining about seeing the same players over and over, but the competition is actually pretty fresh.

On a different note, if Soulkey and Trap win, WCS KR will be 4/4 fin Ro4 for the first time (it was 3/4 and 2/4 before).
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 27 2013 16:21 GMT
#69
Go Maru!
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Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
October 27 2013 16:24 GMT
#70
Neo.G_Soulkey gogo !
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
October 27 2013 16:26 GMT
#71
On October 28 2013 01:03 Applesmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 00:54 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 28 2013 00:46 Elite_ wrote:
On October 28 2013 00:45 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 28 2013 00:31 Elite_ wrote:
On October 28 2013 00:30 Darkhoarse wrote:
Oz, this is your time to get a tournament win. You just have to beat probably the best Zerg in the world, then make the finals so you can play either the best Protoss in the world or the best Terran in the world. You got this.

To be fair, Soulkey is 0-2 against Protoss in this event so far while Oz is 2-1 against Zerg.

0-2 in this event, 7-1 in WCS KR S3 :D

Yeah, but all those ZvPs are from like a month ago... A lot can change in this amount of time. :D

Just checked. 5 of them are from 2 months ago, 3 from 1 month ago. lol

Also Oz is 6-1 in PvZ in WCS AM S3. Oz 8-2, Soulkey 7-3. Oz > Soulkey?

Naniwa fans are about to cry. Thank god i hate Naniwa.


Think I'll cry more for Soulkey losing to someone as mediocre as Oz


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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 27 2013 16:27 GMT
#72
On October 28 2013 01:20 opisska wrote:
OK, so if we put aside the whole Naniwa thing for a mount, let's have a look at the Ro8 from a longer perspective than just this season: it's acutally a pretty surprising lineup. The only seriously established top players in here are Maru and Soulkey. Obviously, MC and MMA are long time champions, but both of them are players with very unstable results. And the rest? Oz, Dear, Trap, ByuL - is there anyone who would predict these four to be where they are half a year ago? People are complaining about seeing the same players over and over, but the competition is actually pretty fresh.

On a different note, if Soulkey and Trap win, WCS KR will be 4/4 fin Ro4 for the first time (it was 3/4 and 2/4 before).

Well, the jump of Dear was unexpected to be THAT fast but what happened, that happened, Trap have shown alot of potential in his OSL Ro16 group, including storm drops and just barely lost to SuNo on fire.
ByuL just demonstrates how many talent Korea has. Hell, once he passed qualifier he went on to get runner up spot in WCS AM final, losing only to CapAmerica.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
GWdeathscythe
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1091 Posts
October 27 2013 16:29 GMT
#73
Soulkey win it all, plz!!!!
JD is BONJWA!
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
October 27 2013 16:30 GMT
#74
On October 28 2013 01:08 FrvPssn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 00:36 kc2siq wrote:
On October 28 2013 00:08 FrvPssn wrote:
They only compare the wcs points within top 16 because it's just for seeding. There's no reason you have to play extra match if you're already in.
On the other hand, it's important for 16/17th place. It's the matter of in and out. Every point counts. Extra match is the best way to sort it out. If they compare the wcs points, it's unfair and it belittles other Tier 1 tourneys like DH and IEM.
Having said that, I want Naniwa and Revival both out. Places for Trap and Dear.


I would personally argue that there's an unfair advantage for players who have the funding and support to go to events like DH and IEM (ex. Taeja) whereas lesser known players or players in financially strapped teams (ex. maru) would have trouble flying to these events.

Though, I get the idea that those tournaments should be worth something which I agree. Maybe a little less than what they are worth now since a large portion of the player pool isn't able to play. Though Blizzard already made the points less than WCS so my argument would be more of how much each tournament should be worth and that's extremely subjective.

Oh wells. It is what it is.


IMO, that's quite fair. It's the players' problems (or teams' problem) if they can or cannot participate in certain tourneys. It's not the fault of the system. Those tournaments were open to anyone willing to participate, only the teams don't want to or can't send their players. So it's actually unfair if you reduce the worth of the tournaments in term of points rewarded because "large portion of the player pool isn't able to play"

There isn't even an argument to be had about this issue. It is a fact that it is unfair. The only way it's fair is when you change the nature of the competition to include means for travel. That is, if we wanted the champion to be someone who is not only good at SC2 but also good at traveling the world, then it'd be fair to test their ability to travel the world. As long as the purpose of our competitions is SC2, it is unfair when travel becomes an overwhelming factor.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 27 2013 16:30 GMT
#75
Keep in mind guys, if Soulkey win against Oz, then Trap and ByuL are set to not win finals (Soulkey curse, lol).
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 27 2013 16:30 GMT
#76
I'm sad that most of this thread will be about Naniwa, as opposed to the awesome players who are actually playing in this tournament :/
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
October 27 2013 16:31 GMT
#77
Cant think of any clever signs
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 27 2013 16:31 GMT
#78
On October 28 2013 01:30 Darkhoarse wrote:
I'm sad that most of this thread will be about Naniwa, as opposed to the awesome players who are actually playing in this tournament :/

Naniwa vs Sniper is first match today, so it won't be long.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
xN.07)MaK
Profile Joined January 2006
Spain1159 Posts
October 27 2013 16:34 GMT
#79
Today is so stacked! Yesterday there were many people standing up during the first two series, I hope they put more seats..
El micro es el último recurso que les queda a los que no producen lo suficiente
Ponchey
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden89 Posts
October 27 2013 16:36 GMT
#80
For the love of Flash, Soulkey, make it happen! Beat Oz!
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