• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:08
CET 06:08
KST 14:08
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy6ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises0Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool42Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Potential Updates Coming to the SC2 CN Server
Tourneys
World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV Team League Season 10 KSL Week 87
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion Soulkey's decision to leave C9 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ JaeDong's form before ASL [ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group A ASL Season 21 LIVESTREAM with English Commentary [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] Open Qualifiers & Ladder Tours
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
CaratFlair Diamond Engagement Rings – Elegant Fore US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Cricket [SPORT] Formula 1 Discussion Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2319 users

[WCS Finals] Day 2 Season 3 Grand Finals 2013 - Page 23

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 21 22 23 24 25 331 Next
Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
October 26 2013 17:53 GMT
#441
On October 27 2013 02:51 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 02:48 Snusmumriken wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:46 Squat wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:43 Darkhoarse wrote:
I hate that Soulkey is so good :/

Yeah I agree, it's a shame there is actually a zerg who does not get stomped by top terrans 80% of the time.


what do you mean a zerg. Theres plenty of them. Just look at the number of terrans in this tournament lol

Outside of SK, what zerg would be favoured against any top 5 terran in a Bo5? Soo maybe, against 1 or 2.

I agree there aren't many terrans, not many zergs either, just a ton of protoss this season.


Without a doubt: drg, curious, life
probably: losira, hyvaa and many more
Amove for Aiur
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
October 26 2013 17:53 GMT
#442
so is the Dong after this?
SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
October 26 2013 17:53 GMT
#443
On October 27 2013 02:51 Arceus wrote:
gg Barca. Now I can focus on WCS


Same
Dating thread on TL LUL
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
October 26 2013 17:54 GMT
#444
On October 27 2013 02:53 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 02:52 TheDwf wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:51 Squat wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:48 Snusmumriken wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:46 Squat wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:43 Darkhoarse wrote:
I hate that Soulkey is so good :/

Yeah I agree, it's a shame there is actually a zerg who does not get stomped by top terrans 80% of the time.


what do you mean a zerg. Theres plenty of them. Just look at the number of terrans in this tournament lol

Outside of SK, what zerg would be favoured against any top 5 terran in a Bo5?

DRG, Curious, perhaps hyvaa, ...

id take life over hyvaa any day

Life indeed, I forgot him.
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
October 26 2013 17:54 GMT
#445
On October 27 2013 02:52 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 02:50 Paljas wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:49 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:49 Shellshock wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:48 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:46 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:45 StarStruck wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:45 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:43 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:43 Darkhoarse wrote:
I hate that Soulkey is so good :/

I love it. And he is clever zerg, not mechanical one :D

He was just such a turtle player early on that I couldn't stand him. He's gotten so much more entertaining, but I still carry a negative bias.


W-h-a-t? That isn't true at all.

Should we remind you how he got out of that GSL season 5 of 2012 Ro32 group with Maru (whom Soulkey ended up kicking to Code B lol) and HerO :D?


That last series vs HerO is one of the big 3 series of imbalance in WoL

Annyeong vs HerO and Leenock vs HerO I'm guessing are the other 2 for you?


Nah, HerO vs Leenock and Seed vs Symbol (the rematch) are the other two

some 1-1-1 TvP series and other terran shit at the beginning of wol was worse imo


Tbh protoss were just terrible at dealing with the 1-1-1 and maps played a big role too

nah. 1-1-1 was just bullshit. most powerfull all in in WoL imo. even better than 11/11 and soultrain.
TL+ Member
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
October 26 2013 17:54 GMT
#446
On October 27 2013 02:53 mememolly wrote:
so is the Dong after this?

yes
Moderatorlickypiddy
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 26 2013 17:54 GMT
#447
On October 27 2013 02:53 mememolly wrote:
so is the Dong after this?

Yeah him vs. MMA
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
October 26 2013 17:54 GMT
#448
gogo polt. you caaan do this.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
October 26 2013 17:54 GMT
#449
haha I found Scarlett! I came to watch on the right side of the hall and shes in the audience right in front of me! This is so cool!!
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 26 2013 17:54 GMT
#450
On October 27 2013 02:54 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 02:53 Paljas wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:52 TheDwf wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:51 Squat wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:48 Snusmumriken wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:46 Squat wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:43 Darkhoarse wrote:
I hate that Soulkey is so good :/

Yeah I agree, it's a shame there is actually a zerg who does not get stomped by top terrans 80% of the time.


what do you mean a zerg. Theres plenty of them. Just look at the number of terrans in this tournament lol

Outside of SK, what zerg would be favoured against any top 5 terran in a Bo5?

DRG, Curious, perhaps hyvaa, ...

id take life over hyvaa any day

Life indeed, I forgot him.

I hope you have a good cover now.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 26 2013 17:54 GMT
#451
On October 27 2013 02:54 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 02:52 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:50 Paljas wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:49 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:49 Shellshock wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:48 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:46 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:45 StarStruck wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:45 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:43 lolfail9001 wrote:
[quote]
I love it. And he is clever zerg, not mechanical one :D

He was just such a turtle player early on that I couldn't stand him. He's gotten so much more entertaining, but I still carry a negative bias.


W-h-a-t? That isn't true at all.

Should we remind you how he got out of that GSL season 5 of 2012 Ro32 group with Maru (whom Soulkey ended up kicking to Code B lol) and HerO :D?


That last series vs HerO is one of the big 3 series of imbalance in WoL

Annyeong vs HerO and Leenock vs HerO I'm guessing are the other 2 for you?


Nah, HerO vs Leenock and Seed vs Symbol (the rematch) are the other two

some 1-1-1 TvP series and other terran shit at the beginning of wol was worse imo


Tbh protoss were just terrible at dealing with the 1-1-1 and maps played a big role too

nah. 1-1-1 was just bullshit. most powerfull all in in WoL imo. even better than 11/11 and soultrain.

11/11 wins because of its longevity.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
FrvPssn
Profile Joined August 2013
France402 Posts
October 26 2013 17:55 GMT
#452
Polt is on tilt...he misclicked his entire scv squad :-O
For the night is dark and full of Terran!!!
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
October 26 2013 17:55 GMT
#453
On October 27 2013 02:53 SoSexy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 02:51 Arceus wrote:
gg Barca. Now I can focus on WCS


Same


Hey what's up with the hat-eating?
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 26 2013 17:55 GMT
#454
On October 27 2013 02:54 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 02:53 Paljas wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:52 TheDwf wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:51 Squat wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:48 Snusmumriken wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:46 Squat wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:43 Darkhoarse wrote:
I hate that Soulkey is so good :/

Yeah I agree, it's a shame there is actually a zerg who does not get stomped by top terrans 80% of the time.


what do you mean a zerg. Theres plenty of them. Just look at the number of terrans in this tournament lol

Outside of SK, what zerg would be favoured against any top 5 terran in a Bo5?

DRG, Curious, perhaps hyvaa, ...

id take life over hyvaa any day

Life indeed, I forgot him.

One does not simply forget Life.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
October 26 2013 17:55 GMT
#455
On October 27 2013 02:54 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 02:54 Paljas wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:52 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:50 Paljas wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:49 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:49 Shellshock wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:48 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:46 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:45 StarStruck wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:45 Darkhoarse wrote:
[quote]
He was just such a turtle player early on that I couldn't stand him. He's gotten so much more entertaining, but I still carry a negative bias.


W-h-a-t? That isn't true at all.

Should we remind you how he got out of that GSL season 5 of 2012 Ro32 group with Maru (whom Soulkey ended up kicking to Code B lol) and HerO :D?


That last series vs HerO is one of the big 3 series of imbalance in WoL

Annyeong vs HerO and Leenock vs HerO I'm guessing are the other 2 for you?


Nah, HerO vs Leenock and Seed vs Symbol (the rematch) are the other two

some 1-1-1 TvP series and other terran shit at the beginning of wol was worse imo


Tbh protoss were just terrible at dealing with the 1-1-1 and maps played a big role too

nah. 1-1-1 was just bullshit. most powerfull all in in WoL imo. even better than 11/11 and soultrain.

11/11 wins because of its longevity.


but 11/11 has never had them sexy 9/10 winrates that the soultrain and 1-1-1 had some time.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 26 2013 17:55 GMT
#456
On October 27 2013 02:55 FrvPssn wrote:
Polt is on tilt...he misclicked his entire scv squad :-O

He said he was sick TT
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
October 26 2013 17:56 GMT
#457
On October 27 2013 02:53 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 02:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:50 StarStruck wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:48 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:46 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:45 StarStruck wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:45 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:43 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:43 Darkhoarse wrote:
I hate that Soulkey is so good :/

I love it. And he is clever zerg, not mechanical one :D

He was just such a turtle player early on that I couldn't stand him. He's gotten so much more entertaining, but I still carry a negative bias.


W-h-a-t? That isn't true at all.

Should we remind you how he got out of that GSL season 5 of 2012 Ro32 group with Maru (whom Soulkey ended up kicking to Code B lol) and HerO :D?


That last series vs HerO is one of the big 3 series of imbalance in WoL


Lots of Zergs even top foreigner zergs were running all over HerO back then too. Cutetoss hated it.


Yeah. HerO went super desperation mode, had to force himself to play a game that he's not good at. Since actually being good at macro PvZ was not a viable option

Well HerO had a super amazing multi-task oriented PvZ style where he would pick off bases and be literally everywhere. Which didn't matter when Leenock could just sit in his corner of Antiga on basically no mining, get Broodlords/Infestors, and neural the mothership.

Once he learned to Soul train he started doing better. (see his NASL win over Violet)


Any type of build order execution based strategy has never been his style. He's not someone who sits at home and practices a build 20 times over until he gets it down perfectly I feel. He's a much more varied player than most others which makes him win games that nobody else would ever win but it also bites him at times when execution is what he needs.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 26 2013 17:56 GMT
#458
On October 27 2013 02:52 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 02:48 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:46 stuchiu wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:44 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:44 stuchiu wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:43 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:43 Darkhoarse wrote:
I hate that Soulkey is so good :/

I love it. And he is clever zerg, not mechanical one :D


He is both.

His mechanics are far from ones of DRG and Losira though.


I think he's even with Losira, worse than DRG.

*Like Losira spends all of his apm on small counters, creep spread and inject.

Soulkey spends his apm on map control, burrow lings, counters, injects and a little creep spread.


Why would you say that? Is there any evidence for these kind of statements or just "trashtalk" ??


huh?


Well i mean, how do you guys "know" who has better mechanics etc? Is it just cause of some apm videos? I mean soulkey played broodwar, i dont think that losira or drg have better mechanics than a broodwar zerg :o
I am just curious cause oftentimes i think those talks about mechanics are kinda biased?^^
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 26 2013 17:56 GMT
#459
On October 27 2013 02:55 robson1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 02:54 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:54 Paljas wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:52 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:50 Paljas wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:49 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:49 Shellshock wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:48 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:46 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:45 StarStruck wrote:
[quote]

W-h-a-t? That isn't true at all.

Should we remind you how he got out of that GSL season 5 of 2012 Ro32 group with Maru (whom Soulkey ended up kicking to Code B lol) and HerO :D?


That last series vs HerO is one of the big 3 series of imbalance in WoL

Annyeong vs HerO and Leenock vs HerO I'm guessing are the other 2 for you?


Nah, HerO vs Leenock and Seed vs Symbol (the rematch) are the other two

some 1-1-1 TvP series and other terran shit at the beginning of wol was worse imo


Tbh protoss were just terrible at dealing with the 1-1-1 and maps played a big role too

nah. 1-1-1 was just bullshit. most powerfull all in in WoL imo. even better than 11/11 and soultrain.

11/11 wins because of its longevity.


but 11/11 has never had them sexy 9/10 winrates that the soultrain and 1-1-1 had some time.

True. 1-1-1 or otherwise known as the reason people thought Puma was a top 5 terran.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
October 26 2013 17:57 GMT
#460
wow sick line for people wanting the bosstoss to sign stuff for them
Moderatorlickypiddy
Prev 1 21 22 23 24 25 331 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 52m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft474
PiGStarcraft311
RuFF_SC2 216
Nina 170
mcanning 72
-ZergGirl 18
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 5312
Sea 4767
ggaemo 75
Snow 48
Bale 16
Noble 16
ZergMaN 9
Icarus 7
Dota 2
monkeys_forever769
febbydoto24
League of Legends
JimRising 762
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 1674
Stewie2K783
Other Games
summit1g9026
C9.Mang0351
Trikslyr28
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1277
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream66
Other Games
BasetradeTV64
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH63
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1207
• Lourlo1038
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4h 52m
Afreeca Starleague
4h 52m
Soulkey vs Ample
JyJ vs sSak
Replay Cast
1d 3h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 4h
hero vs YSC
Larva vs Shine
Kung Fu Cup
1d 5h
Replay Cast
1d 18h
KCM Race Survival
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
WardiTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Team League
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Cure vs Zoun
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Team League
4 days
Platinum Heroes Events
4 days
BSL
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
ByuN vs Maru
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
WardiTV Team League
5 days
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Light vs Calm
Royal vs Mind
Wardi Open
6 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-23
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
NationLESS Cup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

2026 Changsha Offline CUP
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.