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Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
October 26 2013 17:53 GMT
#441
On October 27 2013 02:51 Squat wrote:
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On October 27 2013 02:48 Snusmumriken wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:46 Squat wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:43 Darkhoarse wrote:
I hate that Soulkey is so good :/

Yeah I agree, it's a shame there is actually a zerg who does not get stomped by top terrans 80% of the time.


what do you mean a zerg. Theres plenty of them. Just look at the number of terrans in this tournament lol

Outside of SK, what zerg would be favoured against any top 5 terran in a Bo5? Soo maybe, against 1 or 2.

I agree there aren't many terrans, not many zergs either, just a ton of protoss this season.


Without a doubt: drg, curious, life
probably: losira, hyvaa and many more
Amove for Aiur
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
October 26 2013 17:53 GMT
#442
so is the Dong after this?
SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
October 26 2013 17:53 GMT
#443
On October 27 2013 02:51 Arceus wrote:
gg Barca. Now I can focus on WCS


Same
Dating thread on TL LUL
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
October 26 2013 17:54 GMT
#444
On October 27 2013 02:53 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 02:52 TheDwf wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:51 Squat wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:48 Snusmumriken wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:46 Squat wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:43 Darkhoarse wrote:
I hate that Soulkey is so good :/

Yeah I agree, it's a shame there is actually a zerg who does not get stomped by top terrans 80% of the time.


what do you mean a zerg. Theres plenty of them. Just look at the number of terrans in this tournament lol

Outside of SK, what zerg would be favoured against any top 5 terran in a Bo5?

DRG, Curious, perhaps hyvaa, ...

id take life over hyvaa any day

Life indeed, I forgot him.
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
October 26 2013 17:54 GMT
#445
On October 27 2013 02:52 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 02:50 Paljas wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:49 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:49 Shellshock wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:48 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:46 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:45 StarStruck wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:45 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:43 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:43 Darkhoarse wrote:
I hate that Soulkey is so good :/

I love it. And he is clever zerg, not mechanical one :D

He was just such a turtle player early on that I couldn't stand him. He's gotten so much more entertaining, but I still carry a negative bias.


W-h-a-t? That isn't true at all.

Should we remind you how he got out of that GSL season 5 of 2012 Ro32 group with Maru (whom Soulkey ended up kicking to Code B lol) and HerO :D?


That last series vs HerO is one of the big 3 series of imbalance in WoL

Annyeong vs HerO and Leenock vs HerO I'm guessing are the other 2 for you?


Nah, HerO vs Leenock and Seed vs Symbol (the rematch) are the other two

some 1-1-1 TvP series and other terran shit at the beginning of wol was worse imo


Tbh protoss were just terrible at dealing with the 1-1-1 and maps played a big role too

nah. 1-1-1 was just bullshit. most powerfull all in in WoL imo. even better than 11/11 and soultrain.
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
October 26 2013 17:54 GMT
#446
On October 27 2013 02:53 mememolly wrote:
so is the Dong after this?

yes
Moderatorlickypiddy
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 26 2013 17:54 GMT
#447
On October 27 2013 02:53 mememolly wrote:
so is the Dong after this?

Yeah him vs. MMA
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robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
October 26 2013 17:54 GMT
#448
gogo polt. you caaan do this.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
October 26 2013 17:54 GMT
#449
haha I found Scarlett! I came to watch on the right side of the hall and shes in the audience right in front of me! This is so cool!!
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 26 2013 17:54 GMT
#450
On October 27 2013 02:54 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 02:53 Paljas wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:52 TheDwf wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:51 Squat wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:48 Snusmumriken wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:46 Squat wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:43 Darkhoarse wrote:
I hate that Soulkey is so good :/

Yeah I agree, it's a shame there is actually a zerg who does not get stomped by top terrans 80% of the time.


what do you mean a zerg. Theres plenty of them. Just look at the number of terrans in this tournament lol

Outside of SK, what zerg would be favoured against any top 5 terran in a Bo5?

DRG, Curious, perhaps hyvaa, ...

id take life over hyvaa any day

Life indeed, I forgot him.

I hope you have a good cover now.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 26 2013 17:54 GMT
#451
On October 27 2013 02:54 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 02:52 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:50 Paljas wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:49 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:49 Shellshock wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:48 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:46 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:45 StarStruck wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:45 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:43 lolfail9001 wrote:
[quote]
I love it. And he is clever zerg, not mechanical one :D

He was just such a turtle player early on that I couldn't stand him. He's gotten so much more entertaining, but I still carry a negative bias.


W-h-a-t? That isn't true at all.

Should we remind you how he got out of that GSL season 5 of 2012 Ro32 group with Maru (whom Soulkey ended up kicking to Code B lol) and HerO :D?


That last series vs HerO is one of the big 3 series of imbalance in WoL

Annyeong vs HerO and Leenock vs HerO I'm guessing are the other 2 for you?


Nah, HerO vs Leenock and Seed vs Symbol (the rematch) are the other two

some 1-1-1 TvP series and other terran shit at the beginning of wol was worse imo


Tbh protoss were just terrible at dealing with the 1-1-1 and maps played a big role too

nah. 1-1-1 was just bullshit. most powerfull all in in WoL imo. even better than 11/11 and soultrain.

11/11 wins because of its longevity.
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FrvPssn
Profile Joined August 2013
France402 Posts
October 26 2013 17:55 GMT
#452
Polt is on tilt...he misclicked his entire scv squad :-O
For the night is dark and full of Terran!!!
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
October 26 2013 17:55 GMT
#453
On October 27 2013 02:53 SoSexy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 02:51 Arceus wrote:
gg Barca. Now I can focus on WCS


Same


Hey what's up with the hat-eating?
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 26 2013 17:55 GMT
#454
On October 27 2013 02:54 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 02:53 Paljas wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:52 TheDwf wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:51 Squat wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:48 Snusmumriken wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:46 Squat wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:43 Darkhoarse wrote:
I hate that Soulkey is so good :/

Yeah I agree, it's a shame there is actually a zerg who does not get stomped by top terrans 80% of the time.


what do you mean a zerg. Theres plenty of them. Just look at the number of terrans in this tournament lol

Outside of SK, what zerg would be favoured against any top 5 terran in a Bo5?

DRG, Curious, perhaps hyvaa, ...

id take life over hyvaa any day

Life indeed, I forgot him.

One does not simply forget Life.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
October 26 2013 17:55 GMT
#455
On October 27 2013 02:54 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 02:54 Paljas wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:52 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:50 Paljas wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:49 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:49 Shellshock wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:48 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:46 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:45 StarStruck wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:45 Darkhoarse wrote:
[quote]
He was just such a turtle player early on that I couldn't stand him. He's gotten so much more entertaining, but I still carry a negative bias.


W-h-a-t? That isn't true at all.

Should we remind you how he got out of that GSL season 5 of 2012 Ro32 group with Maru (whom Soulkey ended up kicking to Code B lol) and HerO :D?


That last series vs HerO is one of the big 3 series of imbalance in WoL

Annyeong vs HerO and Leenock vs HerO I'm guessing are the other 2 for you?


Nah, HerO vs Leenock and Seed vs Symbol (the rematch) are the other two

some 1-1-1 TvP series and other terran shit at the beginning of wol was worse imo


Tbh protoss were just terrible at dealing with the 1-1-1 and maps played a big role too

nah. 1-1-1 was just bullshit. most powerfull all in in WoL imo. even better than 11/11 and soultrain.

11/11 wins because of its longevity.


but 11/11 has never had them sexy 9/10 winrates that the soultrain and 1-1-1 had some time.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 26 2013 17:55 GMT
#456
On October 27 2013 02:55 FrvPssn wrote:
Polt is on tilt...he misclicked his entire scv squad :-O

He said he was sick TT
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
October 26 2013 17:56 GMT
#457
On October 27 2013 02:53 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 02:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:50 StarStruck wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:48 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:46 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:45 StarStruck wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:45 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:43 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:43 Darkhoarse wrote:
I hate that Soulkey is so good :/

I love it. And he is clever zerg, not mechanical one :D

He was just such a turtle player early on that I couldn't stand him. He's gotten so much more entertaining, but I still carry a negative bias.


W-h-a-t? That isn't true at all.

Should we remind you how he got out of that GSL season 5 of 2012 Ro32 group with Maru (whom Soulkey ended up kicking to Code B lol) and HerO :D?


That last series vs HerO is one of the big 3 series of imbalance in WoL


Lots of Zergs even top foreigner zergs were running all over HerO back then too. Cutetoss hated it.


Yeah. HerO went super desperation mode, had to force himself to play a game that he's not good at. Since actually being good at macro PvZ was not a viable option

Well HerO had a super amazing multi-task oriented PvZ style where he would pick off bases and be literally everywhere. Which didn't matter when Leenock could just sit in his corner of Antiga on basically no mining, get Broodlords/Infestors, and neural the mothership.

Once he learned to Soul train he started doing better. (see his NASL win over Violet)


Any type of build order execution based strategy has never been his style. He's not someone who sits at home and practices a build 20 times over until he gets it down perfectly I feel. He's a much more varied player than most others which makes him win games that nobody else would ever win but it also bites him at times when execution is what he needs.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 26 2013 17:56 GMT
#458
On October 27 2013 02:52 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 02:48 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:46 stuchiu wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:44 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:44 stuchiu wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:43 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:43 Darkhoarse wrote:
I hate that Soulkey is so good :/

I love it. And he is clever zerg, not mechanical one :D


He is both.

His mechanics are far from ones of DRG and Losira though.


I think he's even with Losira, worse than DRG.

*Like Losira spends all of his apm on small counters, creep spread and inject.

Soulkey spends his apm on map control, burrow lings, counters, injects and a little creep spread.


Why would you say that? Is there any evidence for these kind of statements or just "trashtalk" ??


huh?


Well i mean, how do you guys "know" who has better mechanics etc? Is it just cause of some apm videos? I mean soulkey played broodwar, i dont think that losira or drg have better mechanics than a broodwar zerg :o
I am just curious cause oftentimes i think those talks about mechanics are kinda biased?^^
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 26 2013 17:56 GMT
#459
On October 27 2013 02:55 robson1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 02:54 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:54 Paljas wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:52 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:50 Paljas wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:49 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:49 Shellshock wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:48 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:46 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:45 StarStruck wrote:
[quote]

W-h-a-t? That isn't true at all.

Should we remind you how he got out of that GSL season 5 of 2012 Ro32 group with Maru (whom Soulkey ended up kicking to Code B lol) and HerO :D?


That last series vs HerO is one of the big 3 series of imbalance in WoL

Annyeong vs HerO and Leenock vs HerO I'm guessing are the other 2 for you?


Nah, HerO vs Leenock and Seed vs Symbol (the rematch) are the other two

some 1-1-1 TvP series and other terran shit at the beginning of wol was worse imo


Tbh protoss were just terrible at dealing with the 1-1-1 and maps played a big role too

nah. 1-1-1 was just bullshit. most powerfull all in in WoL imo. even better than 11/11 and soultrain.

11/11 wins because of its longevity.


but 11/11 has never had them sexy 9/10 winrates that the soultrain and 1-1-1 had some time.

True. 1-1-1 or otherwise known as the reason people thought Puma was a top 5 terran.
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
October 26 2013 17:57 GMT
#460
wow sick line for people wanting the bosstoss to sign stuff for them
Moderatorlickypiddy
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