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Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
October 26 2013 18:02 GMT
#481
Hello NASL sound guy nice to have you back.
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
Butterz
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
688 Posts
October 26 2013 18:02 GMT
#482
come on Polt keep it up
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 26 2013 18:02 GMT
#483
On October 27 2013 03:01 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 02:59 stuchiu wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:58 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:56 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:53 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:50 StarStruck wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:48 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:46 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:45 StarStruck wrote:
[quote]

W-h-a-t? That isn't true at all.

Should we remind you how he got out of that GSL season 5 of 2012 Ro32 group with Maru (whom Soulkey ended up kicking to Code B lol) and HerO :D?


That last series vs HerO is one of the big 3 series of imbalance in WoL


Lots of Zergs even top foreigner zergs were running all over HerO back then too. Cutetoss hated it.


Yeah. HerO went super desperation mode, had to force himself to play a game that he's not good at. Since actually being good at macro PvZ was not a viable option

Well HerO had a super amazing multi-task oriented PvZ style where he would pick off bases and be literally everywhere. Which didn't matter when Leenock could just sit in his corner of Antiga on basically no mining, get Broodlords/Infestors, and neural the mothership.

Once he learned to Soul train he started doing better. (see his NASL win over Violet)


Any type of build order execution based strategy has never been his style. He's not someone who sits at home and practices a build 20 times over until he gets it down perfectly I feel. He's a much more varied player than most others which makes him win games that nobody else would ever win but it also bites him at times when execution is what he needs.

Truth :/


Lois lane truly a Hero expert.


What was Hawkgirl's thing again?


I can't get reported because of my mace or something.
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12482 Posts
October 26 2013 18:02 GMT
#484
that reaction time from soulkey, omg
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
October 26 2013 18:02 GMT
#485
Soulkey is behind not ahead.
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
October 26 2013 18:02 GMT
#486
Oh shut up Gretorp. Soulkey is far behind.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 26 2013 18:03 GMT
#487
On October 27 2013 03:01 Incognoto wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1osp4m/lagging_on_twitchtv_watch_wcs_on_vlc_player/

^this does improve stability, though the livestreamer download can be a bit iffy, if you're having problems downloading that program shoot me a PM


Quoting to let more ppl know. This works.
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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
October 26 2013 18:03 GMT
#488
On October 27 2013 02:57 stuchiu wrote:
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On October 27 2013 02:52 stuchiu wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:48 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:46 stuchiu wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:44 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:44 stuchiu wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:43 lolfail9001 wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:43 Darkhoarse wrote:
I hate that Soulkey is so good :/

I love it. And he is clever zerg, not mechanical one :D


He is both.

His mechanics are far from ones of DRG and Losira though.


I think he's even with Losira, worse than DRG.

*Like Losira spends all of his apm on small counters, creep spread and inject.

Soulkey spends his apm on map control, burrow lings, counters, injects and a little creep spread.


Why would you say that? Is there any evidence for these kind of statements or just "trashtalk" ??


huh?


If you aren't being snide, I'll answer it honestly. When I say "worse" the term is relative. It's like DRG's 100 to Soulkey's 98. Basically DRG has shown he can play against Innovation heads up and win in a game based solely off mechanics, i.e. Creep spread, countering, map awareness, burrowed lings/banelings, injects, etc.

Soulkey has also shown he can play Innovation heads up in a long game, but starts to slowly fall behind as it gets to the 30 minutes mark. Just look at his second PL game against Innovation and his g1 against Innovation in WCS KR 2. Of course, I could be wrong about Soulkey as we haven't seen him play against Innovation in a long time, but for now I think DRG is mechanically better than Soulkey just based off of that. But it's not like my opinion is written in stone.

I agree with your analysis.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32742 Posts
October 26 2013 18:03 GMT
#489
Polt's splits aren't as good as I expected. He usually doesn't lose Marines to Banelings like that.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
October 26 2013 18:03 GMT
#490
Polt really loves his turrets xD
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Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-26 18:04:12
October 26 2013 18:03 GMT
#491
Gretorp doesn't understand a shit omg..
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
October 26 2013 18:03 GMT
#492
gretorp stop killing yourself on stream
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
MrLightning
Profile Joined September 2013
306 Posts
October 26 2013 18:04 GMT
#493
Ho Ho Ho
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24584 Posts
October 26 2013 18:04 GMT
#494
So this is really bad for Polt, right? Or is it fine to spend all this time chasing mutas around?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 26 2013 18:04 GMT
#495
omg 2 players in this tournament taking the back base.
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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HunterStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada249 Posts
October 26 2013 18:04 GMT
#496
Polt, so experienced here. He's got this.
LawnMower
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden557 Posts
October 26 2013 18:04 GMT
#497
On October 27 2013 03:02 Swiv wrote:
"Absolutely annihilated"

-.-


Indeed. Am I watching the same game?
The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. - Bertrand Russel
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 26 2013 18:04 GMT
#498
On October 27 2013 03:01 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 02:57 The_Templar wrote:
On October 27 2013 02:53 The_Templar wrote:
Group A: Loser's Match

(T)Polt vs (Z)Soulkey
0-1


Map: Polar Night


Polt spawns in the bottom
Soulkey spawns in the top

2:00
Polt going barracks followed by gas.
Soulkey getting a hatchery first.
Soulkey getting an extractor followed by a spawning pool.
Polt making a reaper.

3:00
Polt expanding on the low ground
Polt getting a reactor on his barracks.
Polt arrives in Soulkey's main.
Soulkey getting zergling speed.
Polt getting a factory.

4:00
Polt getting another reaper as well as a marine.
Soulkey getting an extra queen.
Polt starting to wall his natural.

5:00
Soulkey moving out with 4 zerglings.
Polt getting 2 hellions.
Polt getting a starport.
Polt making a bunker.
Soulkey getting another queen and 2 more extractors.

6:00 (T)Polt 42 vs (Z)Soulkey 52
Polt moving out with his first two hellions.
Soulkey getting a lair.
Polt getting a viking and another barracks.

7:00 (T)Polt 58 vs (Z)Soulkey 60
Polt moving out with 4 hellions and reapers.
Polt getting stim.
Polt scouts no third base.
Polt getting a medivac.
Soulkey pushing off the reapers and hellions.
Viking moving across the map.

8:00 (T)Polt 67 vs (Z)Soulkey 64
Polt preventing a drone from taking the third until queens get there.
Soulkey pushes back the hellions and takes the third base.
Viking finding no overlords.

9:00 (T)Polt 86 vs (Z)Soulkey 84
Soulkey morphing defensive banelings.
Polt getting a third CC.
Soulkey getting baneling speed and 1/1 melee.
Polt getting 1/1 and combat shield.

10:00 (T)Polt 94 vs (Z)Soulkey 99
Polt pushing into the third base
Baneling speed isn't finished.
Soulkey stalling.
One mutalisk joins the fight, soon accompanied by another few.
Polt moves back.

11:00 (T)Polt 115 vs (Z)Soulkey 101
Polt clearing out creep.
Soulkey getting overlord speed.
Soulkey moving a baneling-based army into polt and killing a lot, but has no units left.
Polt moves into the third and kills some mutalisks and drones.

13:00 (T)Polt 118 vs (Z)Soulkey 101
Soulkey nearly moves into a widow mine.
Both players butt heads in the middle.
Soulkey manages to kill lots of stuff with banelings before the mines go off.

14:00 (T)Polt 117 vs (Z)Soulkey 117
Mutalisks moving into the natural of Polt.
Mutalisks deflected by turret.
Polt getting tunneling claws.

15:00 (T)Polt 144 vs (Z)Soulkey 132
Both players nearly finished with 2/2.
Polt getting a 4th command center.
Baneling flank at Polt's third is picked off by a widow mine.
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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
October 26 2013 18:05 GMT
#499
die zerg, die
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Davkaus
Profile Joined October 2013
United Kingdom368 Posts
October 26 2013 18:05 GMT
#500
How did this happen, Gretorp told me that SoulKey had a huge lead.
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