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Wiggins8
Profile Joined October 2013
Germany107 Posts
October 12 2013 16:18 GMT
#681
Unwatchable Lag ...
Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
October 12 2013 16:18 GMT
#682
On October 13 2013 01:14 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 01:13 Exarl25 wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:13 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:12 Fission wrote:
I love how everybody is shitting on flash when literally no terran in the world can beat DRG with 4M right now.

Also this.


But I thought 4M was imba and getting nerfed? Zergs have been saying so for months. Do you mean they just had to figure it out and play better?


We did need that overseer buff.


but you don't need a widowmine-nerf, and yet it's comminng. Arghh QQ, you win again
Amove for Aiur
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
October 12 2013 16:18 GMT
#683
On October 13 2013 01:17 Heavenlee wrote:
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On October 13 2013 01:15 Maghetti wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:12 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:12 Maghetti wrote:
That game made absolutely no sense to me....Flash with a 3 command center build, the best macroer in the world, with a greedy build was down 20+ supply before the first engagement, and when the first engagement came he was absolutely rolled.

He's not the best SC2 maacroer in the world.

Fine, in my opinion he is the best macroer. I shouldn't state it as a fact because there are others similarly good at it, but he is still definitely top of the line for macro.


Evidence points to the contrary. The evidence of him being down 20+ supply with a greedy build./

untouched zerg on 4 bases is the top macroer in the world. Happy now?
Michael Probu
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
October 12 2013 16:18 GMT
#684
On October 13 2013 01:16 Darkhoarse wrote:
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On October 13 2013 01:14 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:12 GumBa wrote:
DRGs and Curious ZvT is soooo good
Like INnoVation is like the only one that can stand up to them? Perhaps MMA?

Perhaps Polt, his TvZ is at least on level with MMA and possibly INoVation at his best.

Bomber and Taeja on occasion show great TvZ. Innovation, MMA, Polt, and Taeja all have better than 2000 TvZ ratings on aligulac.

Polt would probably get rolled hard by the likes of Curious or DRG.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 12 2013 16:19 GMT
#685
On October 13 2013 01:18 GumBa wrote:
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On October 13 2013 01:17 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:16 GumBa wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:15 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:14 GumBa wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:14 sparklyresidue wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:12 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:12 Maghetti wrote:
That game made absolutely no sense to me....Flash with a 3 command center build, the best macroer in the world, with a greedy build was down 20+ supply before the first engagement, and when the first engagement came he was absolutely rolled.

He's not the best SC2 maacroer in the world.

Very true. In a contest for that award, DRG would be a very top contender as well. BW macro is pretty different than SC2 macro...

I would say Innovation has the best terran macro and SK or DRG the best zerg

Bomber is up there for Terran when the law isn't killing him.

Nahhhh Bombers TvZ aint that good imo :/ in macro hes sick I just cant put a finger on it

His macro is quite good, TvZ isn't incredible but it's not too bad.

His weakest atleast imo.

It is his weakest matchup, but he did 4-0 Jaedong with it
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 12 2013 16:19 GMT
#686
On October 13 2013 01:18 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 01:16 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:14 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:12 GumBa wrote:
DRGs and Curious ZvT is soooo good
Like INnoVation is like the only one that can stand up to them? Perhaps MMA?

Perhaps Polt, his TvZ is at least on level with MMA and possibly INoVation at his best.

Bomber and Taeja on occasion show great TvZ. Innovation, MMA, Polt, and Taeja all have better than 2000 TvZ ratings on aligulac.

Polt would probably get rolled hard by the likes of Curious or DRG.

Not if hes on school break
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44235 Posts
October 12 2013 16:19 GMT
#687
twitch is lagging like crazy when my favorite BW and sc2 player is playing .. damn it !
this is a quote
Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
October 12 2013 16:19 GMT
#688
On October 13 2013 01:17 Heavenlee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 01:15 Maghetti wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:12 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:12 Maghetti wrote:
That game made absolutely no sense to me....Flash with a 3 command center build, the best macroer in the world, with a greedy build was down 20+ supply before the first engagement, and when the first engagement came he was absolutely rolled.

He's not the best SC2 maacroer in the world.

Fine, in my opinion he is the best macroer. I shouldn't state it as a fact because there are others similarly good at it, but he is still definitely top of the line for macro.


Evidence points to the contrary. The evidence of him being down 20+ supply with a greedy build./

You're just being a hater. My opinion and surprise is based on a career in sc2 so far where he has shown blisteringly high macro, especially against zerg. I personally considered his macro based on every game I have seen to be a tiny bit better than innovation but not nearly as good in micro and other things making innovation better over all.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
October 12 2013 16:20 GMT
#689
Gonna watch some SC2 while I wait for the beef.

How's Flash playing?
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 12 2013 16:20 GMT
#690
On October 13 2013 01:18 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 01:16 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:14 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:12 GumBa wrote:
DRGs and Curious ZvT is soooo good
Like INnoVation is like the only one that can stand up to them? Perhaps MMA?

Perhaps Polt, his TvZ is at least on level with MMA and possibly INoVation at his best.

Bomber and Taeja on occasion show great TvZ. Innovation, MMA, Polt, and Taeja all have better than 2000 TvZ ratings on aligulac.

Polt would probably get rolled hard by the likes of Curious or DRG.

Hmm in his top form I think he'd be an excellent match for them.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
vesicular
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1310 Posts
October 12 2013 16:20 GMT
#691
game over.
STX Fighting!
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32743 Posts
October 12 2013 16:20 GMT
#692
On October 13 2013 01:20 KristofferAG wrote:
Gonna watch some SC2 while I wait for the beef.

How's Flash playing?

Mech is fairly good, his Bio play is disappointing.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
October 12 2013 16:20 GMT
#693
On October 13 2013 01:20 KristofferAG wrote:
Gonna watch some SC2 while I wait for the beef.

How's Flash playing?

he won with mech. in a TvZ. but his bio looks weak
TL+ Member
Fission
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1184 Posts
October 12 2013 16:20 GMT
#694
On October 13 2013 01:20 KristofferAG wrote:
Gonna watch some SC2 while I wait for the beef.

How's Flash playing?


Won game 1 vs DRG /w mech, got destroyed g2 playing bio, is losing g3 playing bio.
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
October 12 2013 16:21 GMT
#695
So few mines...
Hello
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
October 12 2013 16:21 GMT
#696
Here come the DRG mutas.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
October 12 2013 16:21 GMT
#697
Widow mines need buff :p
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
Prevolved
Profile Joined March 2011
United States573 Posts
October 12 2013 16:21 GMT
#698
DRG such a boss
Know thyself.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
October 12 2013 16:21 GMT
#699
On October 13 2013 01:20 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 01:20 KristofferAG wrote:
Gonna watch some SC2 while I wait for the beef.

How's Flash playing?

Mech is fairly good, his Bio play is disappointing.

Back to the roots.

Doesn't look too good for him right now though.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
SoulCapsule
Profile Joined November 2012
France806 Posts
October 12 2013 16:21 GMT
#700
That creep spread is insane. Flash will never be able to clean it
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