• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:04
CEST 20:04
KST 03:04
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists14[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers12Maestros of the Game 2 announced52026 GSL Tour plans announced14Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid24
StarCraft 2
General
MaNa leaves Team Liquid Maestros of the Game 2 announced 2026 GSL Tour plans announced Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 522 Flip My Base The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss Mutation # 520 Moving Fees
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 Strategy, Pimpest Plays Discussions Data needed [ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro16 Group D [ASL21] Ro16 Group C [ASL21] Ro16 Group B [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game General RTS Discussion Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1572 users

[IEM] New York Day 3 - Page 33

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 31 32 33 34 35 143 Next
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
October 12 2013 16:13 GMT
#641
On October 13 2013 01:13 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 01:12 Fission wrote:
I love how everybody is shitting on flash when literally no terran in the world can beat DRG with 4M right now.

Also this.


But I thought 4M was imba and getting nerfed? Zergs have been saying so for months. Do you mean they just had to figure it out and play better?
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
October 12 2013 16:14 GMT
#642
On October 13 2013 01:12 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 01:12 Maghetti wrote:
That game made absolutely no sense to me....Flash with a 3 command center build, the best macroer in the world, with a greedy build was down 20+ supply before the first engagement, and when the first engagement came he was absolutely rolled.

He's not the best SC2 maacroer in the world.

Very true. In a contest for that award, DRG would be a very top contender as well. BW macro is pretty different than SC2 macro...
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
October 12 2013 16:14 GMT
#643
On October 13 2013 01:12 GumBa wrote:
DRGs and Curious ZvT is soooo good
Like INnoVation is like the only one that can stand up to them? Perhaps MMA?

Perhaps Polt, his TvZ is at least on level with MMA and possibly INoVation at his best.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
October 12 2013 16:14 GMT
#644
On October 13 2013 01:12 Jono7272 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 01:11 PoP wrote:
DRG played great but I don't like how much casters can praise a player when it's obviously the opponent who killed himself.

What is it Flash did wrong?


He lost two full medivac worth of units by not loading his army back against ground zerg units at the worst possible time.
Administrator
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 12 2013 16:14 GMT
#645
On October 13 2013 01:14 sparklyresidue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 01:12 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:12 Maghetti wrote:
That game made absolutely no sense to me....Flash with a 3 command center build, the best macroer in the world, with a greedy build was down 20+ supply before the first engagement, and when the first engagement came he was absolutely rolled.

He's not the best SC2 maacroer in the world.

Very true. In a contest for that award, DRG would be a very top contender as well. BW macro is pretty different than SC2 macro...

I would say Innovation has the best terran macro and SK or DRG the best zerg
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Prugelhugel
Profile Joined February 2012
Austria637 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-12 16:15:23
October 12 2013 16:14 GMT
#646
On October 13 2013 01:13 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 01:12 Jono7272 wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:11 PoP wrote:
DRG played great but I don't like how much casters can praise a player when it's obviously the opponent who killed himself.

What is it Flash did wrong?

Tried to play macro on Polar Night.


I love all this cynisism in the LR threads.
Next topics:
- SC2 dead
- Flash retiring soon
- Zerg/Terran imba
"This map definitly needs more rocks" - No SC2 player ever
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-12 16:14:59
October 12 2013 16:14 GMT
#647
On October 13 2013 01:13 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 01:13 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:12 Fission wrote:
I love how everybody is shitting on flash when literally no terran in the world can beat DRG with 4M right now.

Also this.


But I thought 4M was imba and getting nerfed? Zergs have been saying so for months. Do you mean they just had to figure it out and play better?


We did need that overseer buff.
Moderator
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
October 12 2013 16:15 GMT
#648
On October 13 2013 01:13 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 01:13 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:12 Fission wrote:
I love how everybody is shitting on flash when literally no terran in the world can beat DRG with 4M right now.

Also this.


But I thought 4M was imba and getting nerfed? Zergs have been saying so for months. Do you mean they just had to figure it out and play better?

No, no. Slow down young padawan. DK knows what he is doing, the metagame cant change without help from the outside.
・゚✧:・゚+..。✧・゚:・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚ ゜・:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING *・゜・:・゚✧:・゚✧。゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:・゜・:・゚✧::・・:・゚・゚
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 12 2013 16:15 GMT
#649
On October 13 2013 01:14 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 01:14 sparklyresidue wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:12 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:12 Maghetti wrote:
That game made absolutely no sense to me....Flash with a 3 command center build, the best macroer in the world, with a greedy build was down 20+ supply before the first engagement, and when the first engagement came he was absolutely rolled.

He's not the best SC2 maacroer in the world.

Very true. In a contest for that award, DRG would be a very top contender as well. BW macro is pretty different than SC2 macro...

I would say Innovation has the best terran macro and SK or DRG the best zerg

Bomber is up there for Terran when the law isn't killing him.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Steins;Gate
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-12 16:15:30
October 12 2013 16:15 GMT
#650
On October 13 2013 01:13 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 01:12 Fission wrote:
I love how everybody is shitting on flash when literally no terran in the world can beat DRG with 4M right now.


Dream can. DRG said so.


Mvp also said yoda is good
" Perhaps it's impossible to wear an identity without becoming what you pretend to be. "
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
October 12 2013 16:15 GMT
#651
On October 13 2013 01:14 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 01:13 Exarl25 wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:13 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:12 Fission wrote:
I love how everybody is shitting on flash when literally no terran in the world can beat DRG with 4M right now.

Also this.


But I thought 4M was imba and getting nerfed? Zergs have been saying so for months. Do you mean they just had to figure it out and play better?


We did need that overseer buff.

No one will ever know.
Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
October 12 2013 16:15 GMT
#652
On October 13 2013 01:12 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 01:12 Maghetti wrote:
That game made absolutely no sense to me....Flash with a 3 command center build, the best macroer in the world, with a greedy build was down 20+ supply before the first engagement, and when the first engagement came he was absolutely rolled.

He's not the best SC2 maacroer in the world.

Fine, in my opinion he is the best macroer. I shouldn't state it as a fact because there are others similarly good at it, but he is still definitely top of the line for macro.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 12 2013 16:15 GMT
#653
On October 13 2013 01:14 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 01:12 GumBa wrote:
DRGs and Curious ZvT is soooo good
Like INnoVation is like the only one that can stand up to them? Perhaps MMA?

Perhaps Polt, his TvZ is at least on level with MMA and possibly INoVation at his best.

Oh yeah Polt!
Hmmmmm Polt on a roll maybye yeah he could do it because its Polt perhaps Summer Taeja as well.
Though in my head Polt will always be a TvP expert not a TvZ expert old habits die hard
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
October 12 2013 16:16 GMT
#654
On October 13 2013 01:13 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 01:13 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:12 Fission wrote:
I love how everybody is shitting on flash when literally no terran in the world can beat DRG with 4M right now.

Also this.


But I thought 4M was imba and getting nerfed? Zergs have been saying so for months. Do you mean they just had to figure it out and play better?

Or maybe people could just shut the fuck up a bit and not balance whine when their favorite player loses? One man can dream..
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
October 12 2013 16:16 GMT
#655
So do we want to have DRG back or do we want Flash to rise and be a force to be reckon with? We can't have both.

+ Show Spoiler +
The right answer is obviously Flash domination no retirement savior of Korean passion, silly
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
October 12 2013 16:16 GMT
#656
On October 13 2013 01:14 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 01:14 sparklyresidue wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:12 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:12 Maghetti wrote:
That game made absolutely no sense to me....Flash with a 3 command center build, the best macroer in the world, with a greedy build was down 20+ supply before the first engagement, and when the first engagement came he was absolutely rolled.

He's not the best SC2 maacroer in the world.

Very true. In a contest for that award, DRG would be a very top contender as well. BW macro is pretty different than SC2 macro...

I would say Innovation has the best terran macro and SK or DRG the best zerg

HyuN's macro is insane too.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 12 2013 16:16 GMT
#657
On October 13 2013 01:15 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 01:14 GumBa wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:14 sparklyresidue wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:12 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:12 Maghetti wrote:
That game made absolutely no sense to me....Flash with a 3 command center build, the best macroer in the world, with a greedy build was down 20+ supply before the first engagement, and when the first engagement came he was absolutely rolled.

He's not the best SC2 maacroer in the world.

Very true. In a contest for that award, DRG would be a very top contender as well. BW macro is pretty different than SC2 macro...

I would say Innovation has the best terran macro and SK or DRG the best zerg

Bomber is up there for Terran when the law isn't killing him.

Nahhhh Bombers TvZ aint that good imo :/ in macro hes sick I just cant put a finger on it
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
October 12 2013 16:16 GMT
#658
DRG looks a completely different player than he did 3 months ago,amazing change
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
October 12 2013 16:16 GMT
#659
On October 13 2013 01:16 Swiipii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 01:13 Exarl25 wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:13 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:12 Fission wrote:
I love how everybody is shitting on flash when literally no terran in the world can beat DRG with 4M right now.

Also this.


But I thought 4M was imba and getting nerfed? Zergs have been saying so for months. Do you mean they just had to figure it out and play better?

Or maybe people could just shut the fuck up a bit and not balance whine when their favorite player loses? One man can dream..

What is sarcasm?
・゚✧:・゚+..。✧・゚:・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚ ゜・:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING *・゜・:・゚✧:・゚✧。゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:・゜・:・゚✧::・・:・゚・゚
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 12 2013 16:16 GMT
#660
On October 13 2013 01:15 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 01:14 stuchiu wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:13 Exarl25 wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:13 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:12 Fission wrote:
I love how everybody is shitting on flash when literally no terran in the world can beat DRG with 4M right now.

Also this.


But I thought 4M was imba and getting nerfed? Zergs have been saying so for months. Do you mean they just had to figure it out and play better?


We did need that overseer buff.

No one will ever know.


Typical David Kim Buff. I still believe the Ghost cost buff was actually a Terran nerf.
Moderator
Prev 1 31 32 33 34 35 143 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 15h 56m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 677
Hui .140
UpATreeSC 111
ProTech29
MindelVK 17
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 21265
Calm 5525
ggaemo 224
Dewaltoss 141
Rock 26
Bale 23
Movie 23
soO 19
Shine 13
NaDa 9
Dota 2
qojqva2823
Counter-Strike
fl0m2201
byalli549
Other Games
Grubby3256
FrodaN1412
Beastyqt875
ceh9566
B2W.Neo459
mouzStarbuck306
Trikslyr174
ArmadaUGS151
Fuzer 131
Mew2King52
QueenE51
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV126
StarCraft 2
angryscii 21
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Dystopia_ 2
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki44
• FirePhoenix5
• Michael_bg 3
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV625
League of Legends
• Nemesis4146
Other Games
• imaqtpie852
• Shiphtur280
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
15h 56m
Replay Cast
1d 5h
The PondCast
1d 15h
KCM Race Survival
1d 15h
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
1d 16h
Gerald vs TBD
Clem vs TBD
ByuN vs TBD
Rogue vs MaxPax
ShoWTimE vs TBD
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
Escore
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
3 days
Universe Titan Cup
3 days
Rogue vs Percival
[ Show More ]
Ladder Legends
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
BSL
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
4 days
Ladder Legends
4 days
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-20
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W4
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.