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Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
October 12 2013 16:13 GMT
#641
On October 13 2013 01:13 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 01:12 Fission wrote:
I love how everybody is shitting on flash when literally no terran in the world can beat DRG with 4M right now.

Also this.


But I thought 4M was imba and getting nerfed? Zergs have been saying so for months. Do you mean they just had to figure it out and play better?
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5524 Posts
October 12 2013 16:14 GMT
#642
On October 13 2013 01:12 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 01:12 Maghetti wrote:
That game made absolutely no sense to me....Flash with a 3 command center build, the best macroer in the world, with a greedy build was down 20+ supply before the first engagement, and when the first engagement came he was absolutely rolled.

He's not the best SC2 maacroer in the world.

Very true. In a contest for that award, DRG would be a very top contender as well. BW macro is pretty different than SC2 macro...
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
October 12 2013 16:14 GMT
#643
On October 13 2013 01:12 GumBa wrote:
DRGs and Curious ZvT is soooo good
Like INnoVation is like the only one that can stand up to them? Perhaps MMA?

Perhaps Polt, his TvZ is at least on level with MMA and possibly INoVation at his best.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
October 12 2013 16:14 GMT
#644
On October 13 2013 01:12 Jono7272 wrote:
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On October 13 2013 01:11 PoP wrote:
DRG played great but I don't like how much casters can praise a player when it's obviously the opponent who killed himself.

What is it Flash did wrong?


He lost two full medivac worth of units by not loading his army back against ground zerg units at the worst possible time.
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 12 2013 16:14 GMT
#645
On October 13 2013 01:14 sparklyresidue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 01:12 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:12 Maghetti wrote:
That game made absolutely no sense to me....Flash with a 3 command center build, the best macroer in the world, with a greedy build was down 20+ supply before the first engagement, and when the first engagement came he was absolutely rolled.

He's not the best SC2 maacroer in the world.

Very true. In a contest for that award, DRG would be a very top contender as well. BW macro is pretty different than SC2 macro...

I would say Innovation has the best terran macro and SK or DRG the best zerg
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Prugelhugel
Profile Joined February 2012
Austria637 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-12 16:15:23
October 12 2013 16:14 GMT
#646
On October 13 2013 01:13 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 01:12 Jono7272 wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:11 PoP wrote:
DRG played great but I don't like how much casters can praise a player when it's obviously the opponent who killed himself.

What is it Flash did wrong?

Tried to play macro on Polar Night.


I love all this cynisism in the LR threads.
Next topics:
- SC2 dead
- Flash retiring soon
- Zerg/Terran imba
"This map definitly needs more rocks" - No SC2 player ever
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-12 16:14:59
October 12 2013 16:14 GMT
#647
On October 13 2013 01:13 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 01:13 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:12 Fission wrote:
I love how everybody is shitting on flash when literally no terran in the world can beat DRG with 4M right now.

Also this.


But I thought 4M was imba and getting nerfed? Zergs have been saying so for months. Do you mean they just had to figure it out and play better?


We did need that overseer buff.
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gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
October 12 2013 16:15 GMT
#648
On October 13 2013 01:13 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 01:13 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:12 Fission wrote:
I love how everybody is shitting on flash when literally no terran in the world can beat DRG with 4M right now.

Also this.


But I thought 4M was imba and getting nerfed? Zergs have been saying so for months. Do you mean they just had to figure it out and play better?

No, no. Slow down young padawan. DK knows what he is doing, the metagame cant change without help from the outside.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 12 2013 16:15 GMT
#649
On October 13 2013 01:14 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 01:14 sparklyresidue wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:12 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:12 Maghetti wrote:
That game made absolutely no sense to me....Flash with a 3 command center build, the best macroer in the world, with a greedy build was down 20+ supply before the first engagement, and when the first engagement came he was absolutely rolled.

He's not the best SC2 maacroer in the world.

Very true. In a contest for that award, DRG would be a very top contender as well. BW macro is pretty different than SC2 macro...

I would say Innovation has the best terran macro and SK or DRG the best zerg

Bomber is up there for Terran when the law isn't killing him.
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Steins;Gate
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-12 16:15:30
October 12 2013 16:15 GMT
#650
On October 13 2013 01:13 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 01:12 Fission wrote:
I love how everybody is shitting on flash when literally no terran in the world can beat DRG with 4M right now.


Dream can. DRG said so.


Mvp also said yoda is good
" Perhaps it's impossible to wear an identity without becoming what you pretend to be. "
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
October 12 2013 16:15 GMT
#651
On October 13 2013 01:14 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 01:13 Exarl25 wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:13 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:12 Fission wrote:
I love how everybody is shitting on flash when literally no terran in the world can beat DRG with 4M right now.

Also this.


But I thought 4M was imba and getting nerfed? Zergs have been saying so for months. Do you mean they just had to figure it out and play better?


We did need that overseer buff.

No one will ever know.
Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
October 12 2013 16:15 GMT
#652
On October 13 2013 01:12 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 01:12 Maghetti wrote:
That game made absolutely no sense to me....Flash with a 3 command center build, the best macroer in the world, with a greedy build was down 20+ supply before the first engagement, and when the first engagement came he was absolutely rolled.

He's not the best SC2 maacroer in the world.

Fine, in my opinion he is the best macroer. I shouldn't state it as a fact because there are others similarly good at it, but he is still definitely top of the line for macro.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 12 2013 16:15 GMT
#653
On October 13 2013 01:14 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 01:12 GumBa wrote:
DRGs and Curious ZvT is soooo good
Like INnoVation is like the only one that can stand up to them? Perhaps MMA?

Perhaps Polt, his TvZ is at least on level with MMA and possibly INoVation at his best.

Oh yeah Polt!
Hmmmmm Polt on a roll maybye yeah he could do it because its Polt perhaps Summer Taeja as well.
Though in my head Polt will always be a TvP expert not a TvZ expert old habits die hard
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
October 12 2013 16:16 GMT
#654
On October 13 2013 01:13 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 01:13 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:12 Fission wrote:
I love how everybody is shitting on flash when literally no terran in the world can beat DRG with 4M right now.

Also this.


But I thought 4M was imba and getting nerfed? Zergs have been saying so for months. Do you mean they just had to figure it out and play better?

Or maybe people could just shut the fuck up a bit and not balance whine when their favorite player loses? One man can dream..
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
October 12 2013 16:16 GMT
#655
So do we want to have DRG back or do we want Flash to rise and be a force to be reckon with? We can't have both.

+ Show Spoiler +
The right answer is obviously Flash domination no retirement savior of Korean passion, silly
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
October 12 2013 16:16 GMT
#656
On October 13 2013 01:14 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 01:14 sparklyresidue wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:12 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:12 Maghetti wrote:
That game made absolutely no sense to me....Flash with a 3 command center build, the best macroer in the world, with a greedy build was down 20+ supply before the first engagement, and when the first engagement came he was absolutely rolled.

He's not the best SC2 maacroer in the world.

Very true. In a contest for that award, DRG would be a very top contender as well. BW macro is pretty different than SC2 macro...

I would say Innovation has the best terran macro and SK or DRG the best zerg

HyuN's macro is insane too.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 12 2013 16:16 GMT
#657
On October 13 2013 01:15 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 01:14 GumBa wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:14 sparklyresidue wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:12 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:12 Maghetti wrote:
That game made absolutely no sense to me....Flash with a 3 command center build, the best macroer in the world, with a greedy build was down 20+ supply before the first engagement, and when the first engagement came he was absolutely rolled.

He's not the best SC2 maacroer in the world.

Very true. In a contest for that award, DRG would be a very top contender as well. BW macro is pretty different than SC2 macro...

I would say Innovation has the best terran macro and SK or DRG the best zerg

Bomber is up there for Terran when the law isn't killing him.

Nahhhh Bombers TvZ aint that good imo :/ in macro hes sick I just cant put a finger on it
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
October 12 2013 16:16 GMT
#658
DRG looks a completely different player than he did 3 months ago,amazing change
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
October 12 2013 16:16 GMT
#659
On October 13 2013 01:16 Swiipii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 01:13 Exarl25 wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:13 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:12 Fission wrote:
I love how everybody is shitting on flash when literally no terran in the world can beat DRG with 4M right now.

Also this.


But I thought 4M was imba and getting nerfed? Zergs have been saying so for months. Do you mean they just had to figure it out and play better?

Or maybe people could just shut the fuck up a bit and not balance whine when their favorite player loses? One man can dream..

What is sarcasm?
・゚✧:・゚+..。✧・゚:・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚ ゜・:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING *・゜・:・゚✧:・゚✧。゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:・゜・:・゚✧::・・:・゚・゚
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 12 2013 16:16 GMT
#660
On October 13 2013 01:15 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 01:14 stuchiu wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:13 Exarl25 wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:13 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On October 13 2013 01:12 Fission wrote:
I love how everybody is shitting on flash when literally no terran in the world can beat DRG with 4M right now.

Also this.


But I thought 4M was imba and getting nerfed? Zergs have been saying so for months. Do you mean they just had to figure it out and play better?


We did need that overseer buff.

No one will ever know.


Typical David Kim Buff. I still believe the Ghost cost buff was actually a Terran nerf.
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