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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 11 2013 19:44 GMT
#1401
On October 12 2013 04:43 stuchiu wrote:
And Curious is somehow still in this game. Wtf.

Not only still in, but winning.
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 11 2013 19:44 GMT
#1402
On October 12 2013 04:43 Ghanburighan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 04:42 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 04:41 TheDwf wrote:
On October 12 2013 04:40 75 wrote:
On October 12 2013 04:38 NarutO wrote:
I don't see any reason to bash Flash here. He barely made mistakes. Against a Templar opening there isn't really a lot you can do, especially considering its BelShir which is very straight forward. Drops can only come from one side and attacks at the third base can be deflected quiet good as well.

Maybe people who have no clue about Terran or Protoss or the match up in particular should stop bashing players. State was ahead because the general opening allowed him to be save, get his third base up regardless and Flash couldn't really do shit. Usually if you cannot put down aggression against Protoss and deal no damage whatsoever, it results in Protoss being ahead, if you wasn't greedy to begin with.

Thats why he 'struggled' yet when you saw the fight, even though State fucked up, Flash still won convincingly, when he should not have won like that.

flash didnt play good. did he?

What did he do wrong according to you?


An American got to the late game with him on even terms, he must've done something wrong



Who let you out of the underworld?


Life finds a way.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44345 Posts
October 11 2013 19:44 GMT
#1403
On October 12 2013 04:42 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 04:41 TheDwf wrote:
On October 12 2013 04:40 75 wrote:
On October 12 2013 04:38 NarutO wrote:
I don't see any reason to bash Flash here. He barely made mistakes. Against a Templar opening there isn't really a lot you can do, especially considering its BelShir which is very straight forward. Drops can only come from one side and attacks at the third base can be deflected quiet good as well.

Maybe people who have no clue about Terran or Protoss or the match up in particular should stop bashing players. State was ahead because the general opening allowed him to be save, get his third base up regardless and Flash couldn't really do shit. Usually if you cannot put down aggression against Protoss and deal no damage whatsoever, it results in Protoss being ahead, if you wasn't greedy to begin with.

Thats why he 'struggled' yet when you saw the fight, even though State fucked up, Flash still won convincingly, when he should not have won like that.

flash didnt play good. did he?

What did he do wrong according to you?


An American got to the late game with him on even terms, he must've done something wrong


Haha... I could see Scarlett beating Flash though.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
MavivaM
Profile Joined November 2011
1535 Posts
October 11 2013 19:45 GMT
#1404
On October 12 2013 04:41 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 04:40 Daralii wrote:
On October 12 2013 04:39 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 12 2013 04:38 TheDwf wrote:
On October 12 2013 04:36 Latto wrote:
I'd really like to see Terrans use ghosts a bit more flexibly..
In late game i.e. last game flash vs state we see a high number of ghosts (which is nice, not many terrans get ghosts in general) and Terrans have high gas while going bio, so putting that gas into ghosts is the way to go.

Then in an engagement vs Protoss, use the ghosts to land the emp's and snipe high temps best you can...
but then I'd like to see Terrans use those ghosts with left over energy to use mass snipes vs zealots, I know snipe does good vs zealots and why not, imo better than cloaking the ghosts (assuming they have obs) and reducing the amount of zealots would help loads in the engagement... why don't we ever see this?

Because Snipe does less damage than Ghosts' regular attack (vs Light targets) since the nerf; not to mention you wouldn't necessarily have spare apm to do that anyway.

Snipe was ridiculous before the nerf though. I mean mass snipes was the counter to everything late game TvZ.

Remember that one MVP game where he just went pure ghost and stomped ultra/infestor/brood lord?


Poor Julyzerg.

I think he's talking about MVP vs Nestea at Blizzcon from a year ago... what a disgusting game from a Z's perspective, I recall Nestea walking away looking very angry (and the translator not reporting Nestea's true words abou the balance before the games^^)
Your Opinion has been counted. Only 3 more Opinions needed for a reddit thread.
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
October 11 2013 19:45 GMT
#1405
why isn't Adebisi observing?
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 11 2013 19:45 GMT
#1406
Oh god damn that looked painful.
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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
October 11 2013 19:45 GMT
#1407
State's Warp Prisms man :D
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
October 11 2013 19:45 GMT
#1408
Yikes.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44345 Posts
October 11 2013 19:45 GMT
#1409
Yeah State!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10078 Posts
October 11 2013 19:45 GMT
#1410
kamikaze templar ftw!
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 11 2013 19:45 GMT
#1411
On October 12 2013 04:45 MavivaM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 04:41 stuchiu wrote:
On October 12 2013 04:40 Daralii wrote:
On October 12 2013 04:39 Darkhoarse wrote:
On October 12 2013 04:38 TheDwf wrote:
On October 12 2013 04:36 Latto wrote:
I'd really like to see Terrans use ghosts a bit more flexibly..
In late game i.e. last game flash vs state we see a high number of ghosts (which is nice, not many terrans get ghosts in general) and Terrans have high gas while going bio, so putting that gas into ghosts is the way to go.

Then in an engagement vs Protoss, use the ghosts to land the emp's and snipe high temps best you can...
but then I'd like to see Terrans use those ghosts with left over energy to use mass snipes vs zealots, I know snipe does good vs zealots and why not, imo better than cloaking the ghosts (assuming they have obs) and reducing the amount of zealots would help loads in the engagement... why don't we ever see this?

Because Snipe does less damage than Ghosts' regular attack (vs Light targets) since the nerf; not to mention you wouldn't necessarily have spare apm to do that anyway.

Snipe was ridiculous before the nerf though. I mean mass snipes was the counter to everything late game TvZ.

Remember that one MVP game where he just went pure ghost and stomped ultra/infestor/brood lord?


Poor Julyzerg.

I think he's talking about MVP vs Nestea at Blizzcon from a year ago... what a disgusting game from a Z's perspective, I recall Nestea walking away looking very angry (and the translator not reporting Nestea's true words abou the balance before the games^^)

I mean, Nestea played very poorly in the last game, but Ghosts basically shut down Ultras and Broodlords.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Frex
Profile Joined March 2012
Finland888 Posts
October 11 2013 19:46 GMT
#1412
Ouch
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8527 Posts
October 11 2013 19:46 GMT
#1413
holy crap Flash getting picked apart left and right...
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
October 11 2013 19:46 GMT
#1414
mega storm
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 11 2013 19:46 GMT
#1415
Sending the SCVs back before you kill the templar, like a boss.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
October 11 2013 19:46 GMT
#1416
Those storms!
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 11 2013 19:46 GMT
#1417
LIFE, LIBERTY, DEMOCRACY, APPLE PIE, GOVERNMENT SHUT DOWNS DO IT FOR MURICA!
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44345 Posts
October 11 2013 19:46 GMT
#1418
State out mult-tasking fucking Flash.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 11 2013 19:46 GMT
#1419
DRG sure is good at throwing ZvZs lately. By the way, why DRG tries to attack in ZvZ?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
hXc_
Profile Joined May 2012
179 Posts
October 11 2013 19:46 GMT
#1420
Storm drops brood war style
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