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United States23455 Posts
On October 12 2013 04:43 stuchiu wrote:
And Curious is somehow still in this game. Wtf.
Not only still in, but winning.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On October 12 2013 04:43 Ghanburighan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2013 04:42 stuchiu wrote:On October 12 2013 04:41 TheDwf wrote:On October 12 2013 04:40 75 wrote:On October 12 2013 04:38 NarutO wrote:
I don't see any reason to bash Flash here. He barely made mistakes. Against a Templar opening there isn't really a lot you can do, especially considering its BelShir which is very straight forward. Drops can only come from one side and attacks at the third base can be deflected quiet good as well.
Maybe people who have no clue about Terran or Protoss or the match up in particular should stop bashing players. State was ahead because the general opening allowed him to be save, get his third base up regardless and Flash couldn't really do shit. Usually if you cannot put down aggression against Protoss and deal no damage whatsoever, it results in Protoss being ahead, if you wasn't greedy to begin with.
Thats why he 'struggled' yet when you saw the fight, even though State fucked up, Flash still won convincingly, when he should not have won like that. flash didnt play good. did he? What did he do wrong according to you? An American got to the late game with him on even terms, he must've done something wrong  Who let you out of the underworld?
Life finds a way.
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On October 12 2013 04:42 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2013 04:41 TheDwf wrote:On October 12 2013 04:40 75 wrote:On October 12 2013 04:38 NarutO wrote:
I don't see any reason to bash Flash here. He barely made mistakes. Against a Templar opening there isn't really a lot you can do, especially considering its BelShir which is very straight forward. Drops can only come from one side and attacks at the third base can be deflected quiet good as well.
Maybe people who have no clue about Terran or Protoss or the match up in particular should stop bashing players. State was ahead because the general opening allowed him to be save, get his third base up regardless and Flash couldn't really do shit. Usually if you cannot put down aggression against Protoss and deal no damage whatsoever, it results in Protoss being ahead, if you wasn't greedy to begin with.
Thats why he 'struggled' yet when you saw the fight, even though State fucked up, Flash still won convincingly, when he should not have won like that. flash didnt play good. did he? What did he do wrong according to you? An American got to the late game with him on even terms, he must've done something wrong
Haha... I could see Scarlett beating Flash though.
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On October 12 2013 04:41 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2013 04:40 Daralii wrote:On October 12 2013 04:39 Darkhoarse wrote:On October 12 2013 04:38 TheDwf wrote:On October 12 2013 04:36 Latto wrote:
I'd really like to see Terrans use ghosts a bit more flexibly..
In late game i.e. last game flash vs state we see a high number of ghosts (which is nice, not many terrans get ghosts in general) and Terrans have high gas while going bio, so putting that gas into ghosts is the way to go.
Then in an engagement vs Protoss, use the ghosts to land the emp's and snipe high temps best you can...
but then I'd like to see Terrans use those ghosts with left over energy to use mass snipes vs zealots, I know snipe does good vs zealots and why not, imo better than cloaking the ghosts (assuming they have obs) and reducing the amount of zealots would help loads in the engagement... why don't we ever see this? Because Snipe does less damage than Ghosts' regular attack (vs Light targets) since the nerf; not to mention you wouldn't necessarily have spare apm to do that anyway. Snipe was ridiculous before the nerf though. I mean mass snipes was the counter to everything late game TvZ. Remember that one MVP game where he just went pure ghost and stomped ultra/infestor/brood lord? Poor Julyzerg.
I think he's talking about MVP vs Nestea at Blizzcon from a year ago... what a disgusting game from a Z's perspective, I recall Nestea walking away looking very angry (and the translator not reporting Nestea's true words abou the balance before the games^^)
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why isn't Adebisi observing?
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Oh god damn that looked painful.
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State's Warp Prisms man :D
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United States23455 Posts
On October 12 2013 04:45 MavivaM wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2013 04:41 stuchiu wrote:On October 12 2013 04:40 Daralii wrote:On October 12 2013 04:39 Darkhoarse wrote:On October 12 2013 04:38 TheDwf wrote:On October 12 2013 04:36 Latto wrote:
I'd really like to see Terrans use ghosts a bit more flexibly..
In late game i.e. last game flash vs state we see a high number of ghosts (which is nice, not many terrans get ghosts in general) and Terrans have high gas while going bio, so putting that gas into ghosts is the way to go.
Then in an engagement vs Protoss, use the ghosts to land the emp's and snipe high temps best you can...
but then I'd like to see Terrans use those ghosts with left over energy to use mass snipes vs zealots, I know snipe does good vs zealots and why not, imo better than cloaking the ghosts (assuming they have obs) and reducing the amount of zealots would help loads in the engagement... why don't we ever see this? Because Snipe does less damage than Ghosts' regular attack (vs Light targets) since the nerf; not to mention you wouldn't necessarily have spare apm to do that anyway. Snipe was ridiculous before the nerf though. I mean mass snipes was the counter to everything late game TvZ. Remember that one MVP game where he just went pure ghost and stomped ultra/infestor/brood lord? Poor Julyzerg. I think he's talking about MVP vs Nestea at Blizzcon from a year ago... what a disgusting game from a Z's perspective, I recall Nestea walking away looking very angry (and the translator not reporting Nestea's true words abou the balance before the games^^)
I mean, Nestea played very poorly in the last game, but Ghosts basically shut down Ultras and Broodlords.
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holy crap Flash getting picked apart left and right...
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Sending the SCVs back before you kill the templar, like a boss.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
LIFE, LIBERTY, DEMOCRACY, APPLE PIE, GOVERNMENT SHUT DOWNS DO IT FOR MURICA!
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State out mult-tasking fucking Flash.
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
DRG sure is good at throwing ZvZs lately. By the way, why DRG tries to attack in ZvZ?
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Storm drops brood war style
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EPT
