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Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
October 01 2013 22:59 GMT
#141
THE DONG! (See signature)
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 01 2013 22:59 GMT
#142
+4 carapace with queens transfusing pretty good vs zealot heavy 0 attack upgrades ^^
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BIRDKNIFE
Profile Joined May 2013
United States73 Posts
October 01 2013 23:00 GMT
#143
Was she baiting feedbacks onto the infestors before the queens came up?
Attack has the sole purpose of tricking the opponent into a misstep, setting him up for the attack sinister.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18656 Posts
October 01 2013 23:00 GMT
#144
On October 02 2013 08:00 BIRDKNIFE wrote:
Was she baiting feedbacks onto the infestors before the queens came up?


it almost looked like it, didnt it o.O
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2955 Posts
October 01 2013 23:01 GMT
#145
On October 02 2013 08:00 BIRDKNIFE wrote:
Was she baiting feedbacks onto the infestors before the queens came up?


Dunno if that was really intentional. But it happened, and it kinda made her push insanely strong xD
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
October 01 2013 23:01 GMT
#146
On October 02 2013 08:00 BIRDKNIFE wrote:
Was she baiting feedbacks onto the infestors before the queens came up?

i was wondering the same thing. even if it wasn't on purpose, that's a sick tactic. i know upgrades and zealots etc etc, but if you take transfuse out of that engagement, with the positioning and 2 immortals scarlett wouldn't have been able to push past the third
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 23:02:23
October 01 2013 23:01 GMT
#147
Zealots are a waste of supply and minerals against heavily upgraded ultras. I honestly think toss would better off just getting more cannons and build gateway walls.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
NPF
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1635 Posts
October 01 2013 23:03 GMT
#148
On October 02 2013 07:57 Squat wrote:
The Queen of Blades reigns supreme
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


It be better if she had a molson Canadian in hand over what appears to be a Coors light.
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
October 01 2013 23:04 GMT
#149
Crank is gonna roflstomp this nerd!
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 01 2013 23:04 GMT
#150
On October 02 2013 08:00 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 08:00 BIRDKNIFE wrote:
Was she baiting feedbacks onto the infestors before the queens came up?


it almost looked like it, didnt it o.O


Maybe it's a catch-22. If you don't feedback infestors, you lose. If you do, you lose to the queen transfuse. This only happened because Puck didn't get the third fast enough to get the gas for all of the HTs.
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Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 23:06:03
October 01 2013 23:05 GMT
#151
On October 02 2013 08:03 NPF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 07:57 Squat wrote:
The Queen of Blades reigns supreme
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


It be better if she had a molson Canadian in hand over what appears to be a Coors light.

I profess to utter ignorance concerning the relative quality of alcoholic beverages. Though the canadian ladies celebrating on ice was boss as fuck.

Edit: need to find more hockey pictures for the winners' match.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 01 2013 23:05 GMT
#152
[WCS AM] Ro32 Group H Premier S3 2013
us (P)Minigun vs. kr (P)CranK
Game 1
Map: Whirlwind

0:00
Minigun spawns in the top left
CranK spawns in the top right
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Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
October 01 2013 23:06 GMT
#153
so does top GM even mean anything? is it true that it's more about how often you play than your level of skill? i see foreign players like demuslim and minigun topping ladder and then doing nothing against serious competition, and it makes me wonder if those players' skillsets are really just "hey, i'm extremely good at beating the stuff that's on ladder being played by people a little bit worse than me right now"?

no disrespect intended, just curious, since it seems so counterintuitive that the "top GM" would mean so little
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18656 Posts
October 01 2013 23:09 GMT
#154
On October 02 2013 08:06 Waise wrote:
so does top GM even mean anything? is it true that it's more about how often you play than your level of skill? i see foreign players like demuslim and minigun topping ladder and then doing nothing against serious competition, and it makes me wonder if those players' skillsets are really just "hey, i'm extremely good at beating the stuff that's on ladder being played by people a little bit worse than me right now"?

no disrespect intended, just curious, since it seems so counterintuitive that the "top GM" would mean so little


doesnt top GM only mean you play a lot and doesnt say a lot about skill level?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 01 2013 23:09 GMT
#155
On October 02 2013 08:05 Shellshock wrote:
[WCS AM] Ro32 Group H Premier S3 2013
us (P)Minigun vs. kr (P)CranK
Game 1
Map: Whirlwind

0:00
Minigun spawns in the top left
CranK spawns in the top right

1:40
gate first for both players

2:00
double gas for both players
cybernetics core for both players

3:00
2nd gate for CranK
2nd gate for Minigun

4:00
MSC for Minigun
3 stalker openings for both players

5:00
Twilight council on the way for CranK
3rd gate for Minigun
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Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
October 01 2013 23:09 GMT
#156
gretorp: "the mothership core has really made players not want to use aggression against protoss"
goswser: "one of the most common tactics in pvp is to put on some aggression with 2 or 3 gate pressure"
gretorp: "that's right, exactly right"

TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8309 Posts
October 01 2013 23:11 GMT
#157
On October 02 2013 08:05 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 08:03 NPF wrote:
On October 02 2013 07:57 Squat wrote:
The Queen of Blades reigns supreme
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


It be better if she had a molson Canadian in hand over what appears to be a Coors light.

I profess to utter ignorance concerning the relative quality of alcoholic beverages. Though the canadian ladies celebrating on ice was boss as fuck.

Edit: need to find more hockey pictures for the winners' match.


I'm almost certain he's just saying it would be better for the image (molson has a canada leaf on it) as almost any Canadian would say something other than "Molson" if it's based on taste.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
October 01 2013 23:12 GMT
#158
On October 02 2013 08:06 Waise wrote:
so does top GM even mean anything? is it true that it's more about how often you play than your level of skill? i see foreign players like demuslim and minigun topping ladder and then doing nothing against serious competition, and it makes me wonder if those players' skillsets are really just "hey, i'm extremely good at beating the stuff that's on ladder being played by people a little bit worse than me right now"?

no disrespect intended, just curious, since it seems so counterintuitive that the "top GM" would mean so little


Obviously it means something, it's very uncommon for a non-pro to get high on GM ladder.

You do have a point though. A good example would be the series between Suppy and Demuslim. Demu played it like it was ladder games, going for his standard builds. Suppy, having played him on ladder a lot, went for direct BO counters (6 pool on the map where CC first doesn't work and 1 base baneling on 4 spawn map) just because he knew that Demu tends to go for CC first with late/no scout.

Also there is the thing with nerves, some players perform much worse under pressure, while a lucky few perform better!
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
NPF
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1635 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-01 23:13:19
October 01 2013 23:13 GMT
#159
On October 02 2013 08:11 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 08:05 Squat wrote:
On October 02 2013 08:03 NPF wrote:
On October 02 2013 07:57 Squat wrote:
The Queen of Blades reigns supreme
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


It be better if she had a molson Canadian in hand over what appears to be a Coors light.

I profess to utter ignorance concerning the relative quality of alcoholic beverages. Though the canadian ladies celebrating on ice was boss as fuck.

Edit: need to find more hockey pictures for the winners' match.


I'm almost certain he's just saying it would be better for the image (molson has a canada leaf on it) as almost any Canadian would say something other than "Molson" if it's based on taste.


Thank you for explaining it, I didn't want to divert the attention too much.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 01 2013 23:13 GMT
#160
On October 02 2013 08:09 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 08:05 Shellshock wrote:
[WCS AM] Ro32 Group H Premier S3 2013
us (P)Minigun vs. kr (P)CranK
Game 1
Map: Whirlwind

0:00
Minigun spawns in the top left
CranK spawns in the top right

1:40
gate first for both players

2:00
double gas for both players
cybernetics core for both players

3:00
2nd gate for CranK
2nd gate for Minigun

4:00
MSC for Minigun
3 stalker openings for both players

5:00
Twilight council on the way for CranK
3rd gate for Minigun

6:00
Nexus for CranK
Dark Shrine on the way for CranK
robo for CranK
Minigun attacking into the natural of CranK with 6 stalkers
Robo for minigun
nexus of CranK canceled
Minigun moves into the main of CranK

7:00 M 42 vs C 38
Minigun scouts the dark shrine
Minigun forced out of CranK's base
MSC of Minigun was killed
DT warped in
stalkers blocking the ramp and then forcefield
observer started for Minigun
immortal started for CranK
MSC rebuilding for Minigun
Nexus for CranK
another gate for CranK

8:00 M 53 vs C 48
2nd observer for Minigun
warp prism for CranK
forge for CranK
immortal production started for Minigun
observer for CranK
forge for Minigun

9:00 M 59 vs C 53
Robo bay for Minigun
+1 attack started for both players
DT drop into the main of Minigun
DT in the natural of Minigun

10:00 M 60 vs C 66
both DTs are cleaned up
CranK is ahead by 11 workers
7 probes have been killed by CranK
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