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On September 27 2013 21:40 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 21:38 rothsbury wrote:On September 27 2013 21:31 KelsierSC wrote:On September 27 2013 21:27 robson1 wrote:On September 27 2013 21:26 KelsierSC wrote:On September 27 2013 21:21 ZenithM wrote:On September 27 2013 21:20 Waise wrote:On September 27 2013 21:14 KelsierSC wrote:
Oh well I see this thread has descended into shitting on a fantastic caster. Can't wait till next week when we talk about how improved Tasteless is.
the way people mope and pout when anyone criticizes the sacred cow casters is ridiculous And so far the discussion has been fairly reasonable. We're not "shitting" on anyone. ill informed criticism is not reasonable imo. Point to the "ill informed criticism" The only thing I'd say was unreasonable was the guy who just said: "fire the guy, right now" Pretty much everyone saying he doesn't watch, doesn't play, doesn't know about strategies. Unless you live in his house you don't know how much he plays. He does watch SC2 as he is a god damn caster, unless he casts with his eyes closed. He does know about strategies, he references them many times in the cast. however his role in the casting duo is for entertainment,play-by-play and to ask Artosis to talk about strategies in more depth. People calling for him to be fired or replaced by wolf when they don't really understand anything is not reasonable "Evolution is pretty well-supported by the fossil record." "Did you see the fossils put there? Unless you lived on Earth at the time you don't know how the fossils got there." well I guess that proves it then. Clearly the two arguments are comparable.
The point is you're applying the strong sceptical argument to whether Tasteless plays/watches SC2 and denying any possibility of inferring how much he plays/watches SC2s from the quality of his casts. Someone who watches and plays SC2 should have a much greater game knowledge than Tasteless, especially one with Tasteless' native intelligence; therefore Tasteless very likely doesn't watch or play SC2 beyond what he casts.
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This "in my head" song is the worst thing ever.
Good thing they muted it and started the games.
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On September 27 2013 21:43 Shellshock wrote:
Damn I'm crashing hard now. Hopefully the last series doesn't take too long. Come on roach bane upset
what time is it there? quarter to 7 am for me, i'm pretty tired too T_T
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On September 27 2013 21:42 WigglingSquid wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 21:38 Hryul wrote:On September 27 2013 21:34 KelsierSC wrote:On September 27 2013 21:32 JustPassingBy wrote:
Have air units? Trololol, I have corruptors. Have ground units? Trololol, I have broodlors...
Seriously, I swear the only option against that is air splash (i.e. storms for protoss). BL, corruptor isn't the beast it used to once protoss got tempests and infestors got nerfed. I just think Soo outplayed Super that game frankly that game wasn't top notch. PS: getting an add about drugs against period pain. wtf? Twitch.tv doesn't target very well. 
a shitting cow has better aim than that. . .
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Please Innovation finish this fast, I need to go in an hour
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On September 27 2013 21:44 NovemberstOrm wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 21:43 Shellshock wrote:
Damn I'm crashing hard now. Hopefully the last series doesn't take too long. Come on roach bane upset what time is it there? quarter to 7 am for me, i'm pretty tired too T_T
8:44 am but I've been up for 25 hours now
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soO going to roach bane the shit out of innovation.
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On September 27 2013 21:39 robson1 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 21:31 KelsierSC wrote:On September 27 2013 21:27 robson1 wrote:On September 27 2013 21:26 KelsierSC wrote:On September 27 2013 21:21 ZenithM wrote:On September 27 2013 21:20 Waise wrote:On September 27 2013 21:14 KelsierSC wrote:
Oh well I see this thread has descended into shitting on a fantastic caster. Can't wait till next week when we talk about how improved Tasteless is.
the way people mope and pout when anyone criticizes the sacred cow casters is ridiculous And so far the discussion has been fairly reasonable. We're not "shitting" on anyone. ill informed criticism is not reasonable imo. Point to the "ill informed criticism" The only thing I'd say was unreasonable was the guy who just said: "fire the guy, right now" Pretty much everyone saying he doesn't watch, doesn't play, doesn't know about strategies. Unless you live in his house you don't know how much he plays. He does watch SC2 as he is a god damn caster, unless he casts with his eyes closed. He does know about strategies, he references them many times in the cast. however his role in the casting duo is for entertainment,play-by-play and to ask Artosis to talk about strategies in more depth. People calling for him to be fired or replaced by wolf when they don't really understand anything is not reasonable Well obviously you cannot know for sure how much he plays and watches, but you can look at the result, which is his casting, conclude that it declined and is subpar knowledge wise and look for a reason. Since he's a talented smart guy, it the reason seems to be, that he does not invest the necessary time. that's just basic logic. Well he does watch SC2. But if he only watches his casted games, he watches less SC than the average TL member, which is not enough to impress. He does not know about any strategies that are somewhat new, he cannot contribute anything relevant from a strategical standpoint, in fact, he often tries to make jokes and tell stories(which is generally fine, and the corner stone of his appeal as a caster) when some big decisions are made, because he outright misses it. I know that his role in the casting duo is to give play by play and entertainment, but he should also know basic stuff. Also he does not know enough about the players. Sometimes he just cannot say anything regarding some of the more unknown players. He called TvT innovations best matchup TODAY..... while Everybody and their grandmother are harping about post hellbat Innovation TvT for months now.
Well all of your argument is based on his casting having declined which I don't think it has but that is just an opinion so this is a rather pointless discussion.
I think you want tasteless to be a strategical mastermind that discusses in depth strategies, I just don't think that is his role, if you listen properly he prompts artosis to talk about strategy in depth.
I agree with you about the unknown player argument. You know I think it is hard for anyone to give in depth discussion of an unknown player...because they are an unknown player.
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On September 27 2013 21:44 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 21:44 NovemberstOrm wrote:On September 27 2013 21:43 Shellshock wrote:
Damn I'm crashing hard now. Hopefully the last series doesn't take too long. Come on roach bane upset what time is it there? quarter to 7 am for me, i'm pretty tired too T_T 8:44 am but I've been up for 25 hours now
shellshock's passion level, it's over 9thousand
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Why did it have to go down to innovation and soo?!
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On September 27 2013 21:45 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 21:44 Shellshock wrote:On September 27 2013 21:44 NovemberstOrm wrote:On September 27 2013 21:43 Shellshock wrote:
Damn I'm crashing hard now. Hopefully the last series doesn't take too long. Come on roach bane upset what time is it there? quarter to 7 am for me, i'm pretty tired too T_T 8:44 am but I've been up for 25 hours now shellshock's passion level, it's over 9thousand
well cant be hard for a bot 
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I have a slight feeling we are going to see:
- Roaches
- Widow mines
- Total upset in this thread
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On September 27 2013 21:44 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 21:44 NovemberstOrm wrote:On September 27 2013 21:43 Shellshock wrote:
Damn I'm crashing hard now. Hopefully the last series doesn't take too long. Come on roach bane upset what time is it there? quarter to 7 am for me, i'm pretty tired too T_T 8:44 am but I've been up for 25 hours now
why have you been up so long? :o
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On September 27 2013 21:43 rothsbury wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 21:40 KelsierSC wrote:On September 27 2013 21:38 rothsbury wrote:On September 27 2013 21:31 KelsierSC wrote:On September 27 2013 21:27 robson1 wrote:On September 27 2013 21:26 KelsierSC wrote:On September 27 2013 21:21 ZenithM wrote:On September 27 2013 21:20 Waise wrote:On September 27 2013 21:14 KelsierSC wrote:
Oh well I see this thread has descended into shitting on a fantastic caster. Can't wait till next week when we talk about how improved Tasteless is.
the way people mope and pout when anyone criticizes the sacred cow casters is ridiculous And so far the discussion has been fairly reasonable. We're not "shitting" on anyone. ill informed criticism is not reasonable imo. Point to the "ill informed criticism" The only thing I'd say was unreasonable was the guy who just said: "fire the guy, right now" Pretty much everyone saying he doesn't watch, doesn't play, doesn't know about strategies. Unless you live in his house you don't know how much he plays. He does watch SC2 as he is a god damn caster, unless he casts with his eyes closed. He does know about strategies, he references them many times in the cast. however his role in the casting duo is for entertainment,play-by-play and to ask Artosis to talk about strategies in more depth. People calling for him to be fired or replaced by wolf when they don't really understand anything is not reasonable "Evolution is pretty well-supported by the fossil record." "Did you see the fossils put there? Unless you lived on Earth at the time you don't know how the fossils got there." well I guess that proves it then. Clearly the two arguments are comparable. The point is you're applying the strong sceptical argument to whether Tasteless plays/watches SC2 and denying any possibility of inferring how much he plays/watches SC2s from the quality of his casts. Someone who watches and plays SC2 should have a much greater game knowledge than Tasteless, especially one with Tasteless' native intelligence; therefore Tasteless very likely doesn't watch or play SC2 beyond what he casts.
Yeh I don't think you can infer his game knowledge from his casts because his role isn't the analytical caster. I don't think we are going to convince eachother I just wish the criticism was more reasonable and toned down, rather than pitchforking and trying to get GOM to fire him.
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On September 27 2013 21:45 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 21:39 robson1 wrote:On September 27 2013 21:31 KelsierSC wrote:On September 27 2013 21:27 robson1 wrote:On September 27 2013 21:26 KelsierSC wrote:On September 27 2013 21:21 ZenithM wrote:On September 27 2013 21:20 Waise wrote:On September 27 2013 21:14 KelsierSC wrote:
Oh well I see this thread has descended into shitting on a fantastic caster. Can't wait till next week when we talk about how improved Tasteless is.
the way people mope and pout when anyone criticizes the sacred cow casters is ridiculous And so far the discussion has been fairly reasonable. We're not "shitting" on anyone. ill informed criticism is not reasonable imo. Point to the "ill informed criticism" The only thing I'd say was unreasonable was the guy who just said: "fire the guy, right now" Pretty much everyone saying he doesn't watch, doesn't play, doesn't know about strategies. Unless you live in his house you don't know how much he plays. He does watch SC2 as he is a god damn caster, unless he casts with his eyes closed. He does know about strategies, he references them many times in the cast. however his role in the casting duo is for entertainment,play-by-play and to ask Artosis to talk about strategies in more depth. People calling for him to be fired or replaced by wolf when they don't really understand anything is not reasonable Well obviously you cannot know for sure how much he plays and watches, but you can look at the result, which is his casting, conclude that it declined and is subpar knowledge wise and look for a reason. Since he's a talented smart guy, it the reason seems to be, that he does not invest the necessary time. that's just basic logic. Well he does watch SC2. But if he only watches his casted games, he watches less SC than the average TL member, which is not enough to impress. He does not know about any strategies that are somewhat new, he cannot contribute anything relevant from a strategical standpoint, in fact, he often tries to make jokes and tell stories(which is generally fine, and the corner stone of his appeal as a caster) when some big decisions are made, because he outright misses it. I know that his role in the casting duo is to give play by play and entertainment, but he should also know basic stuff. Also he does not know enough about the players. Sometimes he just cannot say anything regarding some of the more unknown players. He called TvT innovations best matchup TODAY..... while Everybody and their grandmother are harping about post hellbat Innovation TvT for months now. Well all of your argument is based on his casting having declined which I don't think it has but that is just an opinion so this is a rather pointless discussion. I think you want tasteless to be a strategical mastermind that discusses in depth strategies, I just don't think that is his role, if you listen properly he prompts artosis to talk about strategy in depth. I agree with you about the unknown player argument. You know I think it is hard for anyone to give in depth discussion of an unknown player...because they are an unknown player.
they are unknow to the average joe SC watcher. But if you are passionate like khaldor (who looks up every stat) or artosis(who watches like every game ever) or some other casters, you should know a bit about them, intodruce their strong Matchups, their weak matchups etc. Maybe watch the Challenger league run of a unknown player. Because nobody in Code S is actually soooo unknown that you can't find information.
Also. He called TvT innovations best matchup.
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On September 27 2013 21:42 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 21:42 Hryul wrote:On September 27 2013 21:40 bo1b wrote:On September 27 2013 21:39 graNite wrote:
Pro tip: do not pray for the lost and lonely, it wont help. Try talking to them. While pro tips are being thrown around, here is another one: Don't take songs too literally. say that again and I'll lose my religion! I'm going to go read another Alec Baldwin blog on nuclear power I think.
do you mean this? that went completely unnoticed outside of the US (i guess)
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On September 27 2013 21:46 NovemberstOrm wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 21:44 Shellshock wrote:On September 27 2013 21:44 NovemberstOrm wrote:On September 27 2013 21:43 Shellshock wrote:
Damn I'm crashing hard now. Hopefully the last series doesn't take too long. Come on roach bane upset what time is it there? quarter to 7 am for me, i'm pretty tired too T_T 8:44 am but I've been up for 25 hours now why have you been up so long? :o
Thursday is my long day for classes cause I have lab that day. Then we had the Thursday night college football game this week so I went to that. was too pissed about how we played to go to sleep so I figured I'd just stay up and do this
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