★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
19%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (2)
10%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
21 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Maru vs Sleep game 1?
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Poll: Recommend Maru vs Sleep game 2?
★★★ - Good game (9)
50%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
28%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
11%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (1)
6%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
6%
18 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Maru vs Sleep game 2?
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Poll: Recommend Maru vs Sleep game 3?
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (16)
59%
★★★ - Good game (9)
33%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
4%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
4%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (0)
0%
27 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Maru vs Sleep game 3?
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★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
27%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (3)
20%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (2)
13%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
15 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dream vs Bbyong game 1?
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Poll: Recommend Dream vs Bbyong game 2?
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
46%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (3)
23%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
15%
★★★ - Good game (1)
8%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
8%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dream vs Bbyong game 2?
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Poll: Recommend Dream vs Bbyong game 3?
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (5)
42%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
25%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (2)
17%
★★★ - Good game (1)
8%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
8%
12 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dream vs Bbyong game 3?
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★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
5%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
19 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match game 1?
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Poll: Recommend Winners' Match game 2?
★★★ - Good game (10)
77%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
15%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (1)
8%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match game 2?
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Poll: Recommend Winners' Match game 3?
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45%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (4)
36%
★★★ - Good game (1)
9%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
9%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (0)
0%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match game 3?
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★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
83%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (1)
17%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match game 1?
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Poll: Recommend Losers' Match game 2?
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38%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (6)
29%
★★★ - Good game (5)
24%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (2)
10%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
21 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match game 2?
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Poll: Recommend Losers' Match game 3?
★★★ - Good game (7)
54%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (4)
31%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
15%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match game 3?
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★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
43 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final Match game 1?
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Poll: Recommend Final Match game 2?
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7)
44%
★★★ - Good game (5)
31%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
13%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (1)
6%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
6%
16 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final Match game 2?
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Poll: Recommend Final Match game 3?
★★★ - Good game (11)
52%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (6)
29%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
14%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
5%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (0)
0%
21 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Final Match game 3?
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On September 04 2013 07:18 Dodgin wrote: Maru will lose
You think so? Sleep seems like a player a few tiers below Maru in general, and Dream is said to have bad TvT - Bbyong would be the main problem for him. I too expect Maru to crash and burn at some point this tournament, but I don't think it'll be this group, as it's relatively easy. Probably next round.
On September 04 2013 07:40 rshawer wrote: why does dodgin hate prime players so much, if he has a prime flair... Is this suppose to be a inside joke or something
He hates Prime because he has good taste in teams!
On September 04 2013 07:40 rshawer wrote: why does dodgin hate prime players so much, if he has a prime flair... Is this suppose to be a inside joke or something
he lost a bet so he was forced to put up the prime flair :D
Not really sold on either Dream's or Bbyong's TvT so I think that puts Maru in a very good spot. Tough group to call, though. Maru beat Dream in their last meeting and Bbyong beat Maru. Bbyong is such an Ensnare he will probably get out of this group
On September 04 2013 11:51 Shellshock wrote: Not really sold on either Dream's or Bbyong's TvT so I think that puts Maru in a very good spot. Tough group to call, though. Maru beat Dream in their last meeting and Bbyong beat Maru. Bbyong is such an Ensnare he will probably get out of this group
On September 04 2013 11:51 Shellshock wrote: Not really sold on either Dream's or Bbyong's TvT so I think that puts Maru in a very good spot. Tough group to call, though. Maru beat Dream in their last meeting and Bbyong beat Maru. Bbyong is such an Ensnare he will probably get out of this group
Bbyong and Dream played on the same Code A day, against MKP and Fantasy respectively. All 4 of those players had sub50% TvT at the time. Dream actually looked the most impressive of the lot. Dream has since gotten to 50% while Bbyong is still at 31% albeit with very small sample sizes for both.
On September 04 2013 11:51 Shellshock wrote: Not really sold on either Dream's or Bbyong's TvT so I think that puts Maru in a very good spot. Tough group to call, though. Maru beat Dream in their last meeting and Bbyong beat Maru. Bbyong is such an Ensnare he will probably get out of this group
On September 04 2013 11:51 Shellshock wrote: Not really sold on either Dream's or Bbyong's TvT so I think that puts Maru in a very good spot. Tough group to call, though. Maru beat Dream in their last meeting and Bbyong beat Maru. Bbyong is such an Ensnare he will probably get out of this group
On September 04 2013 11:51 Shellshock wrote: Not really sold on either Dream's or Bbyong's TvT so I think that puts Maru in a very good spot. Tough group to call, though. Maru beat Dream in their last meeting and Bbyong beat Maru. Bbyong is such an Ensnare he will probably get out of this group
On September 04 2013 11:51 Shellshock wrote: Not really sold on either Dream's or Bbyong's TvT so I think that puts Maru in a very good spot. Tough group to call, though. Maru beat Dream in their last meeting and Bbyong beat Maru. Bbyong is such an Ensnare he will probably get out of this group
On September 04 2013 11:51 Shellshock wrote: Not really sold on either Dream's or Bbyong's TvT so I think that puts Maru in a very good spot. Tough group to call, though. Maru beat Dream in their last meeting and Bbyong beat Maru. Bbyong is such an Ensnare he will probably get out of this group
On September 04 2013 11:51 Shellshock wrote: Not really sold on either Dream's or Bbyong's TvT so I think that puts Maru in a very good spot. Tough group to call, though. Maru beat Dream in their last meeting and Bbyong beat Maru. Bbyong is such an Ensnare he will probably get out of this group
On September 04 2013 18:05 AyaaLa wrote: tasteless is so horrible... why is he on screen T.T
Because lots of people dont think he is "horrible" I for one think he is the best caster at what he brings to the commentary booth. Might not be 100% accurate and build for build analysis like some others, but no doubt he brings great voice, knowledge of E-Sports and passion for it in his time on air.
On September 04 2013 18:08 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Yonghwa vs soO was definitely the weirdest >_>
I have to agree, that was some modern art type stuff. :p
There one where one guy had his back towards the camera made me laugh too, didn't catch the names, might've been Dream and Bbyong having his back turned.
On September 04 2013 18:05 AyaaLa wrote: tasteless is so horrible... why is he on screen T.T
Because lots of people dont think he is "horrible" I for one think he is the best caster at what he brings to the commentary booth. Might not be 100% accurate and build for build analysis like some others, but no doubt he brings great voice, knowledge of E-Sports and passion for it in his time on air.
haha. Are you joking? Passion? You can't be serious...
On September 04 2013 18:05 AyaaLa wrote: tasteless is so horrible... why is he on screen T.T
Because lots of people dont think he is "horrible" I for one think he is the best caster at what he brings to the commentary booth. Might not be 100% accurate and build for build analysis like some others, but no doubt he brings great voice, knowledge of E-Sports and passion for it in his time on air.
haha. Are you joking? Passion? You can't be serious...
Please be quiet and stop bitching. It does no-one any good.
I really like Sleep despite him generally not showing too good form. But he has the most velvety voice ever, and I remember him having good ZvP at a Lonestar Clash tournament.
On September 04 2013 18:05 AyaaLa wrote: tasteless is so horrible... why is he on screen T.T
Because lots of people dont think he is "horrible" I for one think he is the best caster at what he brings to the commentary booth. Might not be 100% accurate and build for build analysis like some others, but no doubt he brings great voice, knowledge of E-Sports and passion for it in his time on air.
haha. Are you joking? Passion? You can't be serious...
Sigh, im not going to get into this with you who clearly has 1, a problem with Tasteless and 2, no idea of his background and how long he has been doing this for! So just stop with the caster bashing/silly posts when it is clearly not welcome in LRs if you have ever read any of the mod notes on the old ones ;_;
Fucking APM is off the charts. I had like 66% win vs P and Z last season in Masters, and 25% against Terran. I have so much respect for zergs that can keep up apm like this.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
19%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (2)
10%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
21 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Maru vs Sleep game 1?
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★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
19%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (2)
10%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
21 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Maru vs Sleep game 1?
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I'm no Zerg but why didn't Sleep have a spore or two up to help deal with the Medivacs and detect the WM? That 2 Medivac drop in the main did a fair bit of damage and gave some momentum to Maru when Sleep had been doing well thus far.
On September 04 2013 18:23 Heartland wrote: Is it impossible to do counterattacks with ling/muta when facing this style? Seems like that might be strong against it.
You can, but then you let get T a game winning fortified position while a drop is raping your main.
On September 04 2013 18:23 Heartland wrote: Is it impossible to do counterattacks with ling/muta when facing this style? Seems like that might be strong against it.
Basically you need either big portions of your army or your mutalisks to deal with drops.
Without big army/mutalisks in the counterattack, it's kinda easy to defend since mines deal with mass units well and marines deal with mutas well.
So it's very hard, best way imo is to do mini counter attacks with a handful of lings and hope the terran player doesn't have defense near his mineral lines.
On September 04 2013 18:25 aZealot wrote: I'm no Zerg but why didn't Sleep have a spore or two up to help deal with the Medivacs and detect the WM?
That 2 Medivac drop in the main did a fair bit of damage.
Yeah im asking myself the same question in almost every ZvT I watch. I feel like it was the same way in WoL. It took forever until zergs started to dump minerals in static defence. Stephano being one of the few who wasnt afraid to do it and he became known for superb drop defence.
On September 04 2013 18:25 aZealot wrote: I'm no Zerg but why didn't Sleep have a spore or two up to help deal with the Medivacs and detect the WM?
That 2 Medivac drop in the main did a fair bit of damage.
Hard to play perfect.
True, but that was the Medivac timing, no? So, he must have known it was coming. Even a single spore could have saved some precious lings and drones and negated the drop, at least somewhat, until the Overseer and reinforcements arrived.
On September 04 2013 18:25 aZealot wrote: I'm no Zerg but why didn't Sleep have a spore or two up to help deal with the Medivacs and detect the WM?
That 2 Medivac drop in the main did a fair bit of damage.
Yeah im asking myself the same question in almost every ZvT I watch. I feel like it was the same way in WoL. It took forever until zergs started to dump minerals in static defence. Stephano being one of the few who wasnt afraid to do it and he became known for superb drop defence.
Until Innovation slaughtered him with drops in GSL!
On September 04 2013 18:30 Doko wrote: Maru playing so ridiculously greedy... low ground cc, no scv cut at 18 either, skipped walling last game as well
Greedy? Most of terran pros don't even scout when cc'ing first. And his build is an offensive oriented build, he is anything but greedy...
On September 04 2013 18:30 Doko wrote: Maru playing so ridiculously greedy... low ground cc, no scv cut at 18 either, skipped walling last game as well
But he is not being greedy with a 3rd CC so its fine and really not that greedy
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11%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (1)
6%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
6%
18 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Maru vs Sleep game 2?
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On September 04 2013 18:30 Doko wrote: Maru playing so ridiculously greedy... low ground cc, no scv cut at 18 either, skipped walling last game as well
It's not greedy at all, he scouted after first depot to confirm hatch first before building low ground... Calling "greed" the fact he makes a 19th SCV shows how completely misused this word is.
On September 04 2013 18:25 aZealot wrote: I'm no Zerg but why didn't Sleep have a spore or two up to help deal with the Medivacs and detect the WM?
That 2 Medivac drop in the main did a fair bit of damage.
Hard to play perfect.
True, but that was the Medivac timing, no? So, he must have known it was coming. Even a single spore could have saved some precious lings and drones and negated the drop, at least somewhat, until the Overseer and reinforcements arrived.
Yeah, I agree. But if there is a spore behind the mineral line the Terran just drops a bit further and then snipes the spore with his 2 medivacs full with units. You don't know if there will be widow mines anyway.
Dnu, but I make spore + spinecrawler in all my games vs T and I still lose a shitton to drops. It isn't a magical structure that denies all drops. It just delays drops sometimes depending on what is in the medivacs and the amount of medivacs.
If you're doing a risky attack like this in ZvT, would it be worth getting a nydus worm up in advance to deal with multi-pronged counters like this? Or is that too costly?
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Your vote: Recommend Maru vs Sleep game 3?
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★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
27%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (3)
20%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (2)
13%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
15 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dream vs Bbyong game 1?
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★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4)
27%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (3)
20%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (2)
13%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
15 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dream vs Bbyong game 1?
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On September 04 2013 19:06 BlackPanther wrote: I love how much pseudoscience is discussed on GSL.
I don't know what stoner talk is but I'm thinking stoner talk. As if Jay and Silent Bob was casting Starcraft and Bob wasn't silent. But worse because of the lack of funny words and also passion, of course.
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46%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (3)
23%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
15%
★★★ - Good game (1)
8%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
8%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dream vs Bbyong game 2?
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Poll: Recommend Dream vs Bbyong game 3?
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (5)
42%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
25%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (2)
17%
★★★ - Good game (1)
8%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
8%
12 total votes
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★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
46%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (3)
23%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
15%
★★★ - Good game (1)
8%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
8%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dream vs Bbyong game 2?
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Poll: Recommend Dream vs Bbyong game 3?
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (5)
42%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
25%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (2)
17%
★★★ - Good game (1)
8%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
8%
12 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dream vs Bbyong game 3?
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★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
46%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (3)
23%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
15%
★★★ - Good game (1)
8%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
8%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dream vs Bbyong game 2?
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Poll: Recommend Dream vs Bbyong game 3?
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (5)
42%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
25%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (2)
17%
★★★ - Good game (1)
8%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
8%
12 total votes
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can u pls stop voting 1 or 5 stars for a fake game? <3
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (6)
46%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (3)
23%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (2)
15%
★★★ - Good game (1)
8%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
8%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dream vs Bbyong game 2?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Dream vs Bbyong game 3?
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (5)
42%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
25%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (2)
17%
★★★ - Good game (1)
8%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
8%
12 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Dream vs Bbyong game 3?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
can u pls stop voting 1 or 5 stars for a fake game? <3
The 5-star voting system sucks and shouldn't be used as long as it shows individual votes and not average result. Not their fault.
Cloak Banshee was the follow up i would of done if i was Bbyong, Optimus is doing it now and it will do huge damage scouted now Bbyong makes raven and Optimus goes back into vikings xD #Smart!
Maru is pretty damn good. Notices the siege tank, doesn't take a shot but runs the hellion into the scv line to do maximum damage. Split-second decision there!
On September 04 2013 19:41 Ghanburighan wrote: Maru is pretty damn good. Notices the siege tank, doesn't take a shot but runs the hellion into the scv line to do maximum damage. Split-second decision there!
Edit: Kasaraki, you bastard son of a pig-dog!
<3
Poll: Recommend Winners' Match game 1?
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (12)
63%
★★★ - Good game (5)
26%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (1)
5%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
5%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
19 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match game 1?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On September 04 2013 19:39 Keeemy wrote: It's crazy how Bbyong outclassed Dream earlier pretty hard, and now Maru is totally outclassing Bbyong. Maru is so good.
Bbyong didn't really outclass Dream, he just got build order wins. D:
Wow, didn't watch those WCS(code S) matches for some time, I really like the stuff below the Mineral/Gas/Supply(the Income/Workers/Army count), very nice touch.
"Look at it! He's microing the marines to kill the rax, landing starport at the same time! And his medivacs are flying across the map! What a pro" -this thread
On September 04 2013 19:51 Ramiz1989 wrote: Wow, didn't watch those WCS(code S) matches for some time, I really like the stuff below the Mineral/Gas/Supply(the Income/Workers/Army count), very nice touch.
Yeah this UI is excellent, shows upgrades/abilites on the bottom right unit panes too.
On September 04 2013 19:54 CruelZeratul wrote: Since google couldn't help me I need your help guys! What is the "in my head" song called / who ist the artist?
Pretty sure it's Cilver - In My Head feat. Bumblefoot
On September 04 2013 19:54 CruelZeratul wrote: Since google couldn't help me I need your help guys! What is the "in my head" song called / who ist the artist?
On September 04 2013 19:51 Ramiz1989 wrote: Wow, didn't watch those WCS(code S) matches for some time, I really like the stuff below the Mineral/Gas/Supply(the Income/Workers/Army count), very nice touch.
Yeah this UI is excellent, shows upgrades/abilites on the bottom right unit panes too.
I personally prefer to have as few things on the screen as possible, and let the observer point out worker/army and income only when significant.
1) See huge bio army 2) push it back till it has the best arc possible 3) attack it and siege super late 4)??? 5) leave the game becuase you just fucking died
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match game 2?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Winners' Match game 3?
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (5)
45%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (4)
36%
★★★ - Good game (1)
9%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
9%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (0)
0%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match game 3?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On September 04 2013 19:58 BlackCompany wrote: 1) See huge bio army 2) push it back till it has the best arc possible 3) attack it and siege super late 4)??? 5) leave the game becuase you just fucking died
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match game 2?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Poll: Recommend Winners' Match game 3?
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (5)
45%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (4)
36%
★★★ - Good game (1)
9%
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
9%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (0)
0%
11 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match game 3?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
On September 04 2013 19:58 BlackCompany wrote: 1) See huge bio army 2) push it back till it has the best arc possible 3) attack it and siege super late 4)??? 5) leave the game becuase you just fucking died
On September 04 2013 20:01 graNite wrote: "perfect fps game" :D dont they know how ridiculos this sound every time they advertise a game in this lazy voice?
And its a 3rd-Person shooter aswell, good marketing strat right there and then
On September 04 2013 20:01 graNite wrote: "perfect fps game" :D dont they know how ridiculos this sound every time they advertise a game in this lazy voice?
On September 04 2013 20:01 graNite wrote: "perfect fps game" :D dont they know how ridiculos this sound every time they advertise a game in this lazy voice?
On September 04 2013 20:01 graNite wrote: "perfect fps game" :D dont they know how ridiculos this sound every time they advertise a game in this lazy voice?
Like other illusive perfect fps games it has not only graphics AND sound but also controls.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (5)
83%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (1)
17%
★★★ - Good game (0)
0%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
6 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match game 1?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
Sleep vs Dream Game 2 Map: Akilon Wastes 0:00-5:00 Sleep spawns in the bottom right Dream spawns in the top left Reaper Opening for Dream Hatch First into Speedlings for Sleep
On September 04 2013 20:23 Big J wrote: Sleep vs Dream Game 2 Map: Akilon Wastes 0:00-5:00 Sleep spawns in the bottom right Dream spawns in the top left Reaper Opening for Dream Hatch First into Speedlings for Sleep
5:00-7:30 3 CC for Dream 3rd hatch and double evochambers for Sleep Hellion/Reaper for Dream
On September 04 2013 20:23 Big J wrote: Sleep vs Dream Game 2 Map: Akilon Wastes 0:00-5:00 Sleep spawns in the bottom right Dream spawns in the top left Reaper Opening for Dream Hatch First into Speedlings for Sleep
5:00-7:30 3 CC for Dream 3rd hatch and double evochambers for Sleep Hellion/Reaper for Dream
7:30-10:00 Double ebays, Stim, Widow Mines and More barracks for Dream 1-1 Melee/Carapace, Baneling Nest, Lair for Sleep
On September 04 2013 20:23 Big J wrote: Sleep vs Dream Game 2 Map: Akilon Wastes 0:00-5:00 Sleep spawns in the bottom right Dream spawns in the top left Reaper Opening for Dream Hatch First into Speedlings for Sleep
5:00-7:30 3 CC for Dream 3rd hatch and double evochambers for Sleep Hellion/Reaper for Dream
7:30-10:00 Double ebays, Stim, Widow Mines and More barracks for Dream 1-1 Melee/Carapace, Baneling Nest, Lair for Sleep
12:00 Dream pushing the front, while dropping the third and main
On September 04 2013 20:23 Big J wrote: Sleep vs Dream Game 2 Map: Akilon Wastes 0:00-5:00 Sleep spawns in the bottom right Dream spawns in the top left Reaper Opening for Dream Hatch First into Speedlings for Sleep
5:00-7:30 3 CC for Dream 3rd hatch and double evochambers for Sleep Hellion/Reaper for Dream
7:30-10:00 Double ebays, Stim, Widow Mines and More barracks for Dream 1-1 Melee/Carapace, Baneling Nest, Lair for Sleep
12:00 Dream pushing the front, while dropping the third and main
Mutas and 2-2 finishing for Sleep 2-2 starting for dream
On September 04 2013 20:23 Big J wrote: Sleep vs Dream Game 2 Map: Akilon Wastes 0:00-5:00 Sleep spawns in the bottom right Dream spawns in the top left Reaper Opening for Dream Hatch First into Speedlings for Sleep
5:00-7:30 3 CC for Dream 3rd hatch and double evochambers for Sleep Hellion/Reaper for Dream
7:30-10:00 Double ebays, Stim, Widow Mines and More barracks for Dream 1-1 Melee/Carapace, Baneling Nest, Lair for Sleep
12:00 Dream pushing the front, while dropping the third and main
Mutas and 2-2 finishing for Sleep 2-2 starting for dream
16:00 Continous pushing at the front of Sleeps base from Dreams 4M composition Sleeps Macro slipping, 20-30supply behind
On September 04 2013 20:23 Big J wrote: Sleep vs Dream Game 2 Map: Akilon Wastes 0:00-5:00 Sleep spawns in the bottom right Dream spawns in the top left Reaper Opening for Dream Hatch First into Speedlings for Sleep
5:00-7:30 3 CC for Dream 3rd hatch and double evochambers for Sleep Hellion/Reaper for Dream
7:30-10:00 Double ebays, Stim, Widow Mines and More barracks for Dream 1-1 Melee/Carapace, Baneling Nest, Lair for Sleep
12:00 Dream pushing the front, while dropping the third and main
Mutas and 2-2 finishing for Sleep 2-2 starting for dream
16:00 Continous pushing at the front of Sleeps base from Dreams 4M composition Sleeps Macro slipping, 20-30supply behind
Sleep with 28mutas still holding, supplies now even again at ~170 3-3 for Dream on the way Sleep still with 2.5/8k bank
On September 04 2013 20:23 Big J wrote: Sleep vs Dream Game 2 Map: Akilon Wastes 0:00-5:00 Sleep spawns in the bottom right Dream spawns in the top left Reaper Opening for Dream Hatch First into Speedlings for Sleep
5:00-7:30 3 CC for Dream 3rd hatch and double evochambers for Sleep Hellion/Reaper for Dream
7:30-10:00 Double ebays, Stim, Widow Mines and More barracks for Dream 1-1 Melee/Carapace, Baneling Nest, Lair for Sleep
12:00 Dream pushing the front, while dropping the third and main
Mutas and 2-2 finishing for Sleep 2-2 starting for dream
16:00 Continous pushing at the front of Sleeps base from Dreams 4M composition Sleeps Macro slipping, 20-30supply behind
Sleep with 28mutas still holding, supplies now even again at ~170 3-3 for Dream on the way Sleep still with 2.5/8k bank
22:00 Hive starting for Sleep 3-3 finished for Dream Mutalisk counterattack does some damage, while Sleep can hold the push/drops with ling/bling
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (8)
38%
★★★★ - Highly recommended game (6)
29%
★★★ - Good game (5)
24%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (2)
10%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
21 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match game 2?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
There has been so many monments where Dream has just been stupidly aggressive for no reason and losing units left and right unneccessary, pretty hard to watch.
On September 04 2013 20:23 Big J wrote: Sleep vs Dream Game 2 Map: Akilon Wastes 0:00-5:00 Sleep spawns in the bottom right Dream spawns in the top left Reaper Opening for Dream Hatch First into Speedlings for Sleep
5:00-7:30 3 CC for Dream 3rd hatch and double evochambers for Sleep Hellion/Reaper for Dream
7:30-10:00 Double ebays, Stim, Widow Mines and More barracks for Dream 1-1 Melee/Carapace, Baneling Nest, Lair for Sleep
12:00 Dream pushing the front, while dropping the third and main
Mutas and 2-2 finishing for Sleep 2-2 starting for dream
16:00 Continous pushing at the front of Sleeps base from Dreams 4M composition Sleeps Macro slipping, 20-30supply behind
Sleep with 28mutas still holding, supplies now even again at ~170 3-3 for Dream on the way Sleep still with 2.5/8k bank
22:00 Hive starting for Sleep 3-3 finished for Dream Mutalisk counterattack does some damage, while Sleep can hold the push/drops with ling/bling
Hive finishes, 3 Vipers started, but Dreams 3-3 bio pushes through the 2-2 ling/bling and the 1-1 mutas and forces the gg. Dream equalizes the series 1-1
really bad macro D: didn't like him sending his muta flock out, didn't really accomplish anything and lost the potential to snipe a bunch of medivacs ;x
poor macro :/ why not just build a spine wall, and spines behind your mineral line aswell. Sitting on 3k minerals isnt doing you much good if you dont spend it.
On September 04 2013 20:38 Bazik wrote: As per usual in the matchup, Terran gets 3 bases go on top of Zerg until 3/3 comes out and finish's the game right after
On September 04 2013 20:38 Bazik wrote: As per usual in the matchup, Terran gets 3 bases go on top of Zerg until 3/3 comes out and finish's the game right after
GG
Whilst Zerg floats to 3k+ minerals and 2k gas on lair tech. Come on.
Sleep not liking macro hatches, Terran didn't wanted to get extra racks. Quiet equal match until 3/3 arrived while the Zerg was sitting on a bank without teching.
On September 04 2013 20:38 Bazik wrote: As per usual in the matchup, Terran gets 3 bases go on top of Zerg until 3/3 comes out and finish's the game right after
On September 04 2013 20:38 Fjodorov wrote: poor macro :/ why not just build a spine wall, and spines behind your mineral line aswell. Sitting on 3k minerals isnt doing you much good if you dont spend it.
On September 04 2013 20:38 Bazik wrote: As per usual in the matchup, Terran gets 3 bases go on top of Zerg until 3/3 comes out and finish's the game right after
GG
It's usual for the zerg to float 3k/1k?
actually it is. Atleast it happens way to often. But you are right, sleep can only blame himself for losing that. Got nothing to do with 3/3
On September 04 2013 20:38 Bazik wrote: As per usual in the matchup, Terran gets 3 bases go on top of Zerg until 3/3 comes out and finish's the game right after
GG
It's usual for the zerg to float 3k/1k?
Zerg should be able to win while floating it seems.
On September 04 2013 20:38 Bazik wrote: As per usual in the matchup, Terran gets 3 bases go on top of Zerg until 3/3 comes out and finish's the game right after
Sleep vs Dream Game 3 Map: Derelicted Watcher 0:00-5:00 Sleep spawns in the bottom left Dream spawns in the top right Sleep again with the hatch first into gas and pool getting a fast zergling speed Dream with CC first on the low ground into barracks and gas, getting a factory
On September 04 2013 20:38 Bazik wrote: As per usual in the matchup, Terran gets 3 bases go on top of Zerg until 3/3 comes out and finish's the game right after
GG
Whilst Zerg floats to 3k+ minerals and 2k gas on lair tech. Come on.
Was just pointing out that either we see Zerg win before Terran gets 3/3 or they loose right after. Lately it has been loosing right after most of the time. WCS season 2 finals had 4 games in a row of this...
I don't understand why more zergs doesn't build extra macro hatches. It is so often you so them floating a lot of minerals whilst not being maxed. If you know that you don't have perfect injects (no one has really) isn't better with a couple of more hatches than floating so much money?
On September 04 2013 20:42 Big J wrote: Sleep vs Dream Game 3 Map: Derelicted Watcher 0:00-5:00 Sleep spawns in the bottom left Dream spawns in the top right Sleep again with the hatch first into gas and pool getting a fast zergling speed Dream with CC first on the low ground into barracks and gas, getting a factory
9:00 1-1. overlord speed, 4queens, spine at the front and third base for Sleep 1-1, 3CC, stim for dream
On September 04 2013 20:42 Big J wrote: Sleep vs Dream Game 3 Map: Derelicted Watcher 0:00-5:00 Sleep spawns in the bottom left Dream spawns in the top right Sleep again with the hatch first into gas and pool getting a fast zergling speed Dream with CC first on the low ground into barracks and gas, getting a factory
9:00 1-1. overlord speed, 4queens, spine at the front and third base for Sleep 1-1, 3CC, stim for dream
12:00 4th, 2-2,Spire and Baneling Speed on the way for Sleep More barracks for Dream, Dreams 4M push starting good Creep spread drop for Dream gets defended
On September 04 2013 20:43 Nauseam wrote: I don't understand why more zergs doesn't build extra macro hatches. It is so often you so them floating a lot of minerals whilst not being maxed. If you know that you don't have perfect injects (no one has really) isn't better with a couple of more hatches than floating so much money?
And then you have 100 larvae and no money? It all started with that weak creep spread allowing Dream to push endlessly. Sleep was on the back foot the entire game.
On September 04 2013 20:42 Big J wrote: Sleep vs Dream Game 3 Map: Derelicted Watcher 0:00-5:00 Sleep spawns in the bottom left Dream spawns in the top right Sleep again with the hatch first into gas and pool getting a fast zergling speed Dream with CC first on the low ground into barracks and gas, getting a factory
9:00 1-1. overlord speed, 4queens, spine at the front and third base for Sleep 1-1, 3CC, stim for dream
12:00 4th, 2-2,Spire and Baneling Speed on the way for Sleep More barracks for Dream, Dreams 4M push starting good Creep spread drop for Dream gets defended
12mutas for Sleep 2-2 for Dream as well Double drop gets destroyed 190-170 supply lead for Sleep
On September 04 2013 20:42 Big J wrote: Sleep vs Dream Game 3 Map: Derelicted Watcher 0:00-5:00 Sleep spawns in the bottom left Dream spawns in the top right Sleep again with the hatch first into gas and pool getting a fast zergling speed Dream with CC first on the low ground into barracks and gas, getting a factory
9:00 1-1. overlord speed, 4queens, spine at the front and third base for Sleep 1-1, 3CC, stim for dream
12:00 4th, 2-2,Spire and Baneling Speed on the way for Sleep More barracks for Dream, Dreams 4M push starting good Creep spread drop for Dream gets defended
12mutas for Sleep 2-2 for Dream as well Double drop gets destroyed 190-170 supply lead for Sleep
Big 200 vs 200 engagment at the front of Sleeps bases. Sleep takes a 30supply lead, still on Lairtech. More mutas started. 4th of Dream gets blown up.
On September 04 2013 20:43 Nauseam wrote: I don't understand why more zergs doesn't build extra macro hatches. It is so often you so them floating a lot of minerals whilst not being maxed. If you know that you don't have Perfect injects (no one Has really) isn't better with a couple of more hatches than floating so much money?
And then you have 100 larvae and no money? It all started with that weak creep spread allowing Dream to PuSh endlessly. Sleep was on the back foot the entire game.
I'm not saying that you should build hatcheries for a worth of 3.5k minerals. You just need maybe 1 or 2 extra. And I think most players would prefer being maxed with a little smaller bank and have larvae compared to floating 3.5k minerals and not being able to max cause you don't have enough larvae.
Sleep's micro has been great this game, never allowing the widow mines to do too much damage. Very patient, always waiting for good engagements, even when Dream is right outside his natural/third.
On September 04 2013 20:42 Big J wrote: Sleep vs Dream Game 3 Map: Derelicted Watcher 0:00-5:00 Sleep spawns in the bottom left Dream spawns in the top right Sleep again with the hatch first into gas and pool getting a fast zergling speed Dream with CC first on the low ground into barracks and gas, getting a factory
9:00 1-1. overlord speed, 4queens, spine at the front and third base for Sleep 1-1, 3CC, stim for dream
12:00 4th, 2-2,Spire and Baneling Speed on the way for Sleep More barracks for Dream, Dreams 4M push starting good Creep spread drop for Dream gets defended
12mutas for Sleep 2-2 for Dream as well Double drop gets destroyed 190-170 supply lead for Sleep
Big 200 vs 200 engagment at the front of Sleeps bases. Sleep takes a 30supply lead, still on Lairtech. More mutas started. 4th of Dream gets blown up.
Big engagment just before 3-3 for Dream and Hive for Sleep finish. Sleep with a 60supply advantage, pushes Dream back to his bases. More damage done, 100supply lead for Sleep.
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
15%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (0)
0%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
0%
13 total votes
Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match game 3?
(Vote): ★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
So killing like 5-6 medivacs worth of harass and taking almost no damage from them + destroying the terran economy + out microing barely leads to a zerg win. Fun. I'm hoping that some zerg comes up with a style which doesn't involve outplaying your opponent to such a ludicrous degree in order to win.
On September 04 2013 20:42 Big J wrote: Sleep vs Dream Game 3 Map: Derelicted Watcher 0:00-5:00 Sleep spawns in the bottom left Dream spawns in the top right Sleep again with the hatch first into gas and pool getting a fast zergling speed Dream with CC first on the low ground into barracks and gas, getting a factory
9:00 1-1. overlord speed, 4queens, spine at the front and third base for Sleep 1-1, 3CC, stim for dream
12:00 4th, 2-2,Spire and Baneling Speed on the way for Sleep More barracks for Dream, Dreams 4M push starting good Creep spread drop for Dream gets defended
12mutas for Sleep 2-2 for Dream as well Double drop gets destroyed 190-170 supply lead for Sleep
Big 200 vs 200 engagment at the front of Sleeps bases. Sleep takes a 30supply lead, still on Lairtech. More mutas started. 4th of Dream gets blown up.
Big engagment just before 3-3 for Dream and Hive for Sleep finish. Sleep with a 60supply advantage, pushes Dream back to his bases. More damage done, 100supply lead for Sleep.
24:00 Sleep overruns Dream with a maxed ling/bling/muta army
On September 04 2013 20:56 bo1b wrote: So killing like 5-6 medivacs worth of harass and taking almost no damage from them + destroying the terran economy + out microing barely leads to a zerg win. Fun. I'm hoping that some zerg comes up with a style which doesn't involve outplaying your opponent to such a ludicrous degree in order to win.
How was this barely a win? There wasn't really a single moment where Sleep was about to die. I know TvZ is pretty good for terran atm but way to overstate things..
On September 04 2013 20:56 bo1b wrote: So killing like 5-6 medivacs worth of harass and taking almost no damage from them + destroying the terran economy + out microing barely leads to a zerg win. Fun. I'm hoping that some zerg comes up with a style which doesn't involve outplaying your opponent to such a ludicrous degree in order to win.
Douchebag zergs win and then complain about balance.
Also to anyone commenting on sleep winning through micro despite having 2k+ minerals floating then you cannot commentate on fantasy doing the same thing vs better opponents.
On September 04 2013 20:56 bo1b wrote: So killing like 5-6 medivacs worth of harass and taking almost no damage from them + destroying the terran economy + out microing barely leads to a zerg win. Fun. I'm hoping that some zerg comes up with a style which doesn't involve outplaying your opponent to such a ludicrous degree in order to win.
Slow down there cowboy, Sleep also didn't play to the best of his ability, of course he outplayed Dream, thus why he won, but he also floated a ton of resources in both the macro games, and he could have either gone to hive and gotten 3/3 or crushed Dream's army and overwhelmed him and killed him way, way sooner.
On September 04 2013 20:56 bo1b wrote: So killing like 5-6 medivacs worth of harass and taking almost no damage from them + destroying the terran economy + out microing barely leads to a zerg win. Fun. I'm hoping that some zerg comes up with a style which doesn't involve outplaying your opponent to such a ludicrous degree in order to win.
Sounds quite good actually considering his awful spending skill. Can't wait for the replay to be released to check with ggtracker, I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't even have 75 SQ.
On September 04 2013 20:56 bo1b wrote: So killing like 5-6 medivacs worth of harass and taking almost no damage from them + destroying the terran economy + out microing barely leads to a zerg win. Fun. I'm hoping that some zerg comes up with a style which doesn't involve outplaying your opponent to such a ludicrous degree in order to win.
It was no close win, it was pretty easy. People only make the mistake to take being offensive for having an advantage which is not always true. That plus the non-spent minerals from Sleep and the game could have been over way earlier.
On September 04 2013 20:56 bo1b wrote: So killing like 5-6 medivacs worth of harass and taking almost no damage from them + destroying the terran economy + out microing barely leads to a zerg win. Fun. I'm hoping that some zerg comes up with a style which doesn't involve outplaying your opponent to such a ludicrous degree in order to win.
Gotta love that zergs balance whine even when they win in a convincing way despite floating thousands of minerals and gas.
On September 04 2013 20:56 bo1b wrote: So killing like 5-6 medivacs worth of harass and taking almost no damage from them + destroying the terran economy + out microing barely leads to a zerg win. Fun. I'm hoping that some zerg comes up with a style which doesn't involve outplaying your opponent to such a ludicrous degree in order to win.
Gotta love that zergs balance whine even when they win in a convincing faction despite floating thousands of minerals and gas.
On September 04 2013 20:56 bo1b wrote: So killing like 5-6 medivacs worth of harass and taking almost no damage from them + destroying the terran economy + out microing barely leads to a zerg win. Fun. I'm hoping that some zerg comes up with a style which doesn't involve outplaying your opponent to such a ludicrous degree in order to win.
It was no close win, it was pretty easy. People only make the mistake to take being offensive for having an advantage which is not always true. That plus the non-spent minerals from Sleep and the game could have been over way earlier.
Last part isn't true. Sleep only started floating minerals after he hit 200 this game. It's also not that easy to counterattack and "kill" a terran that is on 3 bases and keeps rallying mmmbwop to your base.
On September 04 2013 20:56 bo1b wrote: So killing like 5-6 medivacs worth of harass and taking almost no damage from them + destroying the terran economy + out microing barely leads to a zerg win. Fun. I'm hoping that some zerg comes up with a style which doesn't involve outplaying your opponent to such a ludicrous degree in order to win.
It was no close win, it was pretty easy. People only make the mistake to take being offensive for having an advantage which is not always true. That plus the non-spent minerals from Sleep and the game could have been over way earlier.
Except that getting position on a zerg is still a good thing, true it's not as strong as getting a strong siege line on zergs used to be but it sure as hell generally provides an advantage.
On September 04 2013 20:56 bo1b wrote: So killing like 5-6 medivacs worth of harass and taking almost no damage from them + destroying the terran economy + out microing barely leads to a zerg win. Fun. I'm hoping that some zerg comes up with a style which doesn't involve outplaying your opponent to such a ludicrous degree in order to win.
Gotta love that zergs balance whine even when they win in a convincing faction despite floating thousands of minerals and gas.
LOL FANTASY
Never saw FanTaSy float as much as 4.1/1.7k in a game, but please feel free to contradict me with an actual example.
On September 04 2013 20:56 bo1b wrote: So killing like 5-6 medivacs worth of harass and taking almost no damage from them + destroying the terran economy + out microing barely leads to a zerg win. Fun. I'm hoping that some zerg comes up with a style which doesn't involve outplaying your opponent to such a ludicrous degree in order to win.
It was no close win, it was pretty easy. People only make the mistake to take being offensive for having an advantage which is not always true. That plus the non-spent minerals from Sleep and the game could have been over way earlier.
Last part isn't true. Sleep only started floating minerals after he hit 200 this game. It's also not that easy to counterattack and "kill" a terran that is on 3 bases and keeps rallying mmmbwop to your base.
He floated before he was maxed, he also hit hive very late compared to what he could have done. =.=
On September 04 2013 20:56 bo1b wrote: So killing like 5-6 medivacs worth of harass and taking almost no damage from them + destroying the terran economy + out microing barely leads to a zerg win. Fun. I'm hoping that some zerg comes up with a style which doesn't involve outplaying your opponent to such a ludicrous degree in order to win.
Gotta love that zergs balance whine even when they win in a convincing faction despite floating thousands of minerals and gas.
LOL FANTASY
Never saw FanTaSy float as much as 4.1/1.7k in a game, but please feel free to contradict me with an actual example.
On September 04 2013 20:56 bo1b wrote: So killing like 5-6 medivacs worth of harass and taking almost no damage from them + destroying the terran economy + out microing barely leads to a zerg win. Fun. I'm hoping that some zerg comes up with a style which doesn't involve outplaying your opponent to such a ludicrous degree in order to win.
It was no close win, it was pretty easy. People only make the mistake to take being offensive for having an advantage which is not always true. That plus the non-spent minerals from Sleep and the game could have been over way earlier.
Except that getting position on a zerg is still a good thing, true it's not as strong as getting a strong siege line on zergs used to be but it sure as hell generally provides an advantage.
If you want siege tanks on the front line, you have to fly them in bomber style. edit: ♥ Bomber ♥
On September 04 2013 20:56 bo1b wrote: So killing like 5-6 medivacs worth of harass and taking almost no damage from them + destroying the terran economy + out microing barely leads to a zerg win. Fun. I'm hoping that some zerg comes up with a style which doesn't involve outplaying your opponent to such a ludicrous degree in order to win.
Gotta love that zergs balance whine even when they win in a convincing faction despite floating thousands of minerals and gas.
LOL FANTASY
Never saw FanTaSy float as much as 4.1/1.7k in a game, but please feel free to contradict me with an actual example.
I wonder how much minerals were "floating" in those raxes in game 2. Dream was floating 1.5k visible. But could have had 8 marines queued in 5 more raxes.
On September 04 2013 20:56 bo1b wrote: So killing like 5-6 medivacs worth of harass and taking almost no damage from them + destroying the terran economy + out microing barely leads to a zerg win. Fun. I'm hoping that some zerg comes up with a style which doesn't involve outplaying your opponent to such a ludicrous degree in order to win.
It was no close win, it was pretty easy. People only make the mistake to take being offensive for having an advantage which is not always true. That plus the non-spent minerals from Sleep and the game could have been over way earlier.
Except that getting position on a zerg is still a good thing, true it's not as strong as getting a strong siege line on zergs used to be but it sure as hell generally provides an advantage.
You mean he put himself into the aggressive positon because in the defensive position he will (in addition to his supply disadvantage) also lose complete map control and give up all that he could potentially aim for? Yes, that is Terran. You have to be in the Zergs face, if you are not, he will tech up and rape. Never saw it happen? I am sure you will find a few games to check how an unchecked Zerg looks like.
On September 04 2013 20:56 bo1b wrote: So killing like 5-6 medivacs worth of harass and taking almost no damage from them + destroying the terran economy + out microing barely leads to a zerg win. Fun. I'm hoping that some zerg comes up with a style which doesn't involve outplaying your opponent to such a ludicrous degree in order to win.
It was no close win, it was pretty easy. People only make the mistake to take being offensive for having an advantage which is not always true. That plus the non-spent minerals from Sleep and the game could have been over way earlier.
Last part isn't true. Sleep only started floating minerals after he hit 200 this game. It's also not that easy to counterattack and "kill" a terran that is on 3 bases and keeps rallying mmmbwop to your base.
He floated before he was maxed, he also hit hive very late compared to what he could have done. =.=
On September 04 2013 20:56 bo1b wrote: So killing like 5-6 medivacs worth of harass and taking almost no damage from them + destroying the terran economy + out microing barely leads to a zerg win. Fun. I'm hoping that some zerg comes up with a style which doesn't involve outplaying your opponent to such a ludicrous degree in order to win.
It was no close win, it was pretty easy. People only make the mistake to take being offensive for having an advantage which is not always true. That plus the non-spent minerals from Sleep and the game could have been over way earlier.
Except that getting position on a zerg is still a good thing, true it's not as strong as getting a strong siege line on zergs used to be but it sure as hell generally provides an advantage.
You mean he put himself into the aggressive positon because in the defensive position he will (in addition to his supply disadvantage) also lose complete map control and give up all that he could potentially aim for? Yes, that is Terran. You have to be in the Zergs face, if you are not, he will tech up and rape. Never saw it happen? I am sure you will find a few games to check how an unchecked Zerg looks like.
I know you have to be in an aggressive position as terran vs zerg, I just hate how that position leads so often to things snowballing out of control (both ways I know), and can quite often just make up for any failed harassment.
In any event I'll take this to the designated balance discussion I don't want to ruin the lr.
I really liked that Sleep actually made adjustments game to game. His macro was still not the best but he did a better job spending money, added static d earlier and helped his multitasking issues by keeping pockets of units to deal with drops. Wasn't perfect play but it was nice to see he didn't fall down the same hole he did game2.
On September 04 2013 21:09 bo1b wrote: GET ON TWITTER, HASHTAG SLEEP, TELL ALL YOUR FRIENDS TO GO TO BED! WE WANT THIS TRENDING ON TWITTER ITS VERY IMPORTANT
Sleep is underrated, you really need 8 hours a day!
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That was really all-in, no upgrades and no 3rd base, to be honest I think he could have done way better had he tried to secure a 3rd and gotten upgrades, but BCs are still insanely expensive.
hm to bad could have made that work if he didn't derp the first time and attack ground units with the BCs and kept his banshees alive. Sleeps had so many transfuses though at the first engagement lol.
Seems like Bbyong is on to something with that strategy, but he engaged somewhat poorly. Perhaps wait till 3 base to get the BCs? And support them better? Split the BCs up and do a multi-pronged attack?
On September 04 2013 21:25 SWAT-Kat wrote: Seems like Bbyong is on to something with that strategy, but he engaged somewhat poorly. Perhaps wait till 3 base to get the BCs? And support them better? Split the BCs up and do a multi-pronged attack?
It was just a silly strategy, much worse than the 2-bases all-ins ForGG sometimes plays out of Hellions/Banshees. There's not much to explore unfortunately.
On September 04 2013 21:23 Big J wrote: Sleep vs Bbyong Game 2 Map: Frost 0:00 Sleep starting in the bottom right Bbyong starting in the bottom left
Hatch first, gas, pool for Sleep CC first, barracks, gas for Bbyong 3 Queens, Zergling Speed for Sleep Reactor and Factory for Dream
Cloaked Banshee/hellion for Bbyong 3rd base for Sleep; mass zerglings and baneling nest started
Bbyong loses the hellions while harassing Banelings morephing the front, 3rd CC started
10:00-11:00 Sleep busts the front and kills the natural worker line, no pull; Meanwhile Bbyong harasses with hellions 19 SCVs killed vs 11 Drones killed Bbyong 10 supply up, harassing with banshees Sleep getting a Lair and droning Bbyong with double armory Mech incoming
I expected this group to be quite weak, but not that weak :-/ I'm especially disappointed by Dream. Realistically, none of those guys except Maru deserve to be in Ro16. Maybe WCS NA and EU drain too much talent away from GSL
Sleep floating money I can understand since he lost like all his queens but Bboyng is constantly supply blocked and floating 1,5k, producing off one factory for a long time
On September 04 2013 21:23 Big J wrote: Sleep vs Bbyong Game 2 Map: Frost 0:00 Sleep starting in the bottom right Bbyong starting in the bottom left
Hatch first, gas, pool for Sleep CC first, barracks, gas for Bbyong 3 Queens, Zergling Speed for Sleep Reactor and Factory for Dream
Cloaked Banshee/hellion for Bbyong 3rd base for Sleep; mass zerglings and baneling nest started
Bbyong loses the hellions while harassing Banelings morephing the front, 3rd CC started
10:00-11:00 Sleep busts the front and kills the natural worker line, no pull; Meanwhile Bbyong harasses with hellions 19 SCVs killed vs 11 Drones killed Bbyong 10 supply up, harassing with banshees Sleep getting a Lair and droning Bbyong with double armory Mech incoming
13:00 Bbyong killing 3queens and a lot of drones and zerglings at the 3rd base with Banshee/Hellion More factories and banshees; 3rd base taken for Bbyong Sleep with the Spire and Baneling Nest Mutas and Thors in production
On September 04 2013 21:23 Big J wrote: Sleep vs Bbyong Game 2 Map: Frost 0:00 Sleep starting in the bottom right Bbyong starting in the bottom left
Hatch first, gas, pool for Sleep CC first, barracks, gas for Bbyong 3 Queens, Zergling Speed for Sleep Reactor and Factory for Dream
Cloaked Banshee/hellion for Bbyong 3rd base for Sleep; mass zerglings and baneling nest started
Bbyong loses the hellions while harassing Banelings morephing the front, 3rd CC started
10:00-11:00 Sleep busts the front and kills the natural worker line, no pull; Meanwhile Bbyong harasses with hellions 19 SCVs killed vs 11 Drones killed Bbyong 10 supply up, harassing with banshees Sleep getting a Lair and droning Bbyong with double armory Mech incoming
13:00 Bbyong killing 3queens and a lot of drones and zerglings at the 3rd base with Banshee/Hellion More factories and banshees; 3rd base taken for Bbyong Sleep with the Spire and Baneling Nest Mutas and Thors in production
15:00-16:00 Hellbats, Thors, Banshees for Bbyong Roach Warren and double evo for Sleep
On September 04 2013 21:23 Big J wrote: Sleep vs Bbyong Game 2 Map: Frost 0:00 Sleep starting in the bottom right Bbyong starting in the bottom left
Hatch first, gas, pool for Sleep CC first, barracks, gas for Bbyong 3 Queens, Zergling Speed for Sleep Reactor and Factory for Dream
Cloaked Banshee/hellion for Bbyong 3rd base for Sleep; mass zerglings and baneling nest started
Bbyong loses the hellions while harassing Banelings morephing the front, 3rd CC started
10:00-11:00 Sleep busts the front and kills the natural worker line, no pull; Meanwhile Bbyong harasses with hellions 19 SCVs killed vs 11 Drones killed Bbyong 10 supply up, harassing with banshees Sleep getting a Lair and droning Bbyong with double armory Mech incoming
13:00 Bbyong killing 3queens and a lot of drones and zerglings at the 3rd base with Banshee/Hellion More factories and banshees; 3rd base taken for Bbyong Sleep with the Spire and Baneling Nest Mutas and Thors in production
15:00-16:00 Hellbats, Thors, Banshees for Bbyong Roach Warren and double evo for Sleep
18:00 Missile Upgrades for Sleep; More Mutalisks Tanks/Hellbats and 2-2 for Mech Bbyong pushes the third
On September 04 2013 21:23 Big J wrote: Sleep vs Bbyong Game 2 Map: Frost 0:00 Sleep starting in the bottom right Bbyong starting in the bottom left
Hatch first, gas, pool for Sleep CC first, barracks, gas for Bbyong 3 Queens, Zergling Speed for Sleep Reactor and Factory for Dream
Cloaked Banshee/hellion for Bbyong 3rd base for Sleep; mass zerglings and baneling nest started
Bbyong loses the hellions while harassing Banelings morephing the front, 3rd CC started
10:00-11:00 Sleep busts the front and kills the natural worker line, no pull; Meanwhile Bbyong harasses with hellions 19 SCVs killed vs 11 Drones killed Bbyong 10 supply up, harassing with banshees Sleep getting a Lair and droning Bbyong with double armory Mech incoming
13:00 Bbyong killing 3queens and a lot of drones and zerglings at the 3rd base with Banshee/Hellion More factories and banshees; 3rd base taken for Bbyong Sleep with the Spire and Baneling Nest Mutas and Thors in production
15:00-16:00 Hellbats, Thors, Banshees for Bbyong Roach Warren and double evo for Sleep
18:00 Missile Upgrades for Sleep; More Mutalisks Tanks/Hellbats and 2-2 for Mech Bbyong pushes the third
Sleep cleans up the Thors, but loses his third in the process; evacuates drones to the 4th; Bbyong with a 60supply lead
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On September 04 2013 21:23 Big J wrote: Sleep vs Bbyong Game 2 Map: Frost 0:00 Sleep starting in the bottom right Bbyong starting in the bottom left
Hatch first, gas, pool for Sleep CC first, barracks, gas for Bbyong 3 Queens, Zergling Speed for Sleep Reactor and Factory for Dream
Cloaked Banshee/hellion for Bbyong 3rd base for Sleep; mass zerglings and baneling nest started
Bbyong loses the hellions while harassing Banelings morephing the front, 3rd CC started
10:00-11:00 Sleep busts the front and kills the natural worker line, no pull; Meanwhile Bbyong harasses with hellions 19 SCVs killed vs 11 Drones killed Bbyong 10 supply up, harassing with banshees Sleep getting a Lair and droning Bbyong with double armory Mech incoming
13:00 Bbyong killing 3queens and a lot of drones and zerglings at the 3rd base with Banshee/Hellion More factories and banshees; 3rd base taken for Bbyong Sleep with the Spire and Baneling Nest Mutas and Thors in production
15:00-16:00 Hellbats, Thors, Banshees for Bbyong Roach Warren and double evo for Sleep
18:00 Missile Upgrades for Sleep; More Mutalisks Tanks/Hellbats and 2-2 for Mech Bbyong pushes the third
Sleep cleans up the Thors, but loses his third in the process; evacuates drones to the 4th; Bbyong with a 60supply lead
22:00 Bbyong pushing again with Tank/Thor/Hellbat/Banshee Sleep with the Muta/Roach counterattack 3-3 finishing for Mech, 2-0 for roaches Sleep realizes he has no chance and ggs 1-1
Bbyong playing himself into my heart here. Also GSL map system might be a bit unfair because of the set starting map, but atleast we see different maps, so I don't care about the fairness factor anymore.
On September 04 2013 21:39 Fjodorov wrote: Bbyong really bringing some unique games. Didnt expect that in a matchup that seems so figured out with the 4M being so effective
there are always points below the supremum if you know what i mean.
On September 04 2013 21:39 Fjodorov wrote: Bbyong really bringing some unique games. Didnt expect that in a matchup that seems so figured out with the 4M being so effective
These games probably solidify 4M for every other Terran watching as the best option by far. Shame because these games although somewhat lackluster have been very fun.
On September 04 2013 21:40 Big J wrote: Sleep vs Bbyong Game 3 Map: Derelict Watcher 0:00 Sleep starting in the bottom left Bbyong starting in the top right
3:00 Notable: Sleep always checking for proxies before expanding reaper opening for Bbyong hatch first for Sleep, no gas this time
On September 04 2013 21:40 Big J wrote: Sleep vs Bbyong Game 3 Map: Derelict Watcher 0:00 Sleep starting in the bottom left Bbyong starting in the top right
3:00 Notable: Sleep always checking for proxies before expanding reaper opening for Bbyong hatch first for Sleep, no gas this time
Sleep adding the gas a little later Sleep catching the first reaper with 4 Zerglings and a drone building a crawler
On September 04 2013 21:40 Big J wrote: Sleep vs Bbyong Game 3 Map: Derelict Watcher 0:00 Sleep starting in the bottom left Bbyong starting in the top right
3:00 Notable: Sleep always checking for proxies before expanding reaper opening for Bbyong hatch first for Sleep, no gas this time
Sleep adding the gas a little later Sleep catching the first reaper with 4 Zerglings and a drone building a crawler
6:00-7:00 2 CCs, a 3rd reaper and reactored hellions for Bbyong Zergling speed and 3rd base for Sleeps; Overlord sees it all
On September 04 2013 21:40 Big J wrote: Sleep vs Bbyong Game 3 Map: Derelict Watcher 0:00 Sleep starting in the bottom left Bbyong starting in the top right
3:00 Notable: Sleep always checking for proxies before expanding reaper opening for Bbyong hatch first for Sleep, no gas this time
Sleep adding the gas a little later Sleep catching the first reaper with 4 Zerglings and a drone building a crawler
6:00-7:00 2 CCs, a 3rd reaper and reactored hellions for Bbyong Zergling speed and 3rd base for Sleeps; Overlord sees it all
8:30 Standard bio play this time for Bbyong Sleep with the slightly faster upgrades; Lair and baneling nest on the way
On September 04 2013 21:40 Big J wrote: Sleep vs Bbyong Game 3 Map: Derelict Watcher 0:00 Sleep starting in the bottom left Bbyong starting in the top right
3:00 Notable: Sleep always checking for proxies before expanding reaper opening for Bbyong hatch first for Sleep, no gas this time
Sleep adding the gas a little later Sleep catching the first reaper with 4 Zerglings and a drone building a crawler
6:00-7:00 2 CCs, a 3rd reaper and reactored hellions for Bbyong Zergling speed and 3rd base for Sleeps; Overlord sees it all
8:30 Standard bio play this time for Bbyong Sleep with the slightly faster upgrades; Lair and baneling nest on the way
11:00 The Calm before the storm: Both sides macroing up, 4th base and macro hatch for Sleep
On September 04 2013 21:40 Big J wrote: Sleep vs Bbyong Game 3 Map: Derelict Watcher 0:00 Sleep starting in the bottom left Bbyong starting in the top right
3:00 Notable: Sleep always checking for proxies before expanding reaper opening for Bbyong hatch first for Sleep, no gas this time
Sleep adding the gas a little later Sleep catching the first reaper with 4 Zerglings and a drone building a crawler
6:00-7:00 2 CCs, a 3rd reaper and reactored hellions for Bbyong Zergling speed and 3rd base for Sleeps; Overlord sees it all
8:30 Standard bio play this time for Bbyong Sleep with the slightly faster upgrades; Lair and baneling nest on the way
11:00 The Calm before the storm: Both sides macroing up, 4th base and macro hatch for Sleep
12:00-15:00 First push gets cleaned up equal supplies; the remainders of Bbyong army try to drop all around the place Follow up push by BByong get cleaned up equal supplies; muta/ling/bling vs 4M 3-3 started for Bbyong
On September 04 2013 21:40 Big J wrote: Sleep vs Bbyong Game 3 Map: Derelict Watcher 0:00 Sleep starting in the bottom left Bbyong starting in the top right
3:00 Notable: Sleep always checking for proxies before expanding reaper opening for Bbyong hatch first for Sleep, no gas this time
Sleep adding the gas a little later Sleep catching the first reaper with 4 Zerglings and a drone building a crawler
6:00-7:00 2 CCs, a 3rd reaper and reactored hellions for Bbyong Zergling speed and 3rd base for Sleeps; Overlord sees it all
8:30 Standard bio play this time for Bbyong Sleep with the slightly faster upgrades; Lair and baneling nest on the way
11:00 The Calm before the storm: Both sides macroing up, 4th base and macro hatch for Sleep
12:00-15:00 First push gets cleaned up equal supplies; the remainders of Bbyong army try to drop all around the place Follow up push by BByong get cleaned up equal supplies; muta/ling/bling vs 4M 3-3 started for Bbyong
Huge Zergling runby at Bbyongs third, forces a lift, kills SCVs and prevents mining Bbyongs push takes out the 4th while doing some damage with a drop at the 3rd
On September 04 2013 21:40 Big J wrote: Sleep vs Bbyong Game 3 Map: Derelict Watcher 0:00 Sleep starting in the bottom left Bbyong starting in the top right
3:00 Notable: Sleep always checking for proxies before expanding reaper opening for Bbyong hatch first for Sleep, no gas this time
Sleep adding the gas a little later Sleep catching the first reaper with 4 Zerglings and a drone building a crawler
6:00-7:00 2 CCs, a 3rd reaper and reactored hellions for Bbyong Zergling speed and 3rd base for Sleeps; Overlord sees it all
8:30 Standard bio play this time for Bbyong Sleep with the slightly faster upgrades; Lair and baneling nest on the way
11:00 The Calm before the storm: Both sides macroing up, 4th base and macro hatch for Sleep
12:00-15:00 First push gets cleaned up equal supplies; the remainders of Bbyong army try to drop all around the place Follow up push by BByong get cleaned up equal supplies; muta/ling/bling vs 4M 3-3 started for Bbyong
Huge Zergling runby at Bbyongs third, forces a lift, kills SCVs and prevents mining Bbyongs push takes out the 4th while doing some damage with a drop at the 3rd
drop gets caught by mutalisks Sleep taking out some army right before 3-3 finishes Mutas harassing the main 3-3 finishes, but Bbyong is forced to retreat; the mutas kill some of the medivacs; 4th and 5th base for Sleep Hive starting; Baneling landmines killing some marines
On September 04 2013 21:40 Big J wrote: Sleep vs Bbyong Game 3 Map: Derelict Watcher 0:00 Sleep starting in the bottom left Bbyong starting in the top right
3:00 Notable: Sleep always checking for proxies before expanding reaper opening for Bbyong hatch first for Sleep, no gas this time
Sleep adding the gas a little later Sleep catching the first reaper with 4 Zerglings and a drone building a crawler
6:00-7:00 2 CCs, a 3rd reaper and reactored hellions for Bbyong Zergling speed and 3rd base for Sleeps; Overlord sees it all
8:30 Standard bio play this time for Bbyong Sleep with the slightly faster upgrades; Lair and baneling nest on the way
11:00 The Calm before the storm: Both sides macroing up, 4th base and macro hatch for Sleep
12:00-15:00 First push gets cleaned up equal supplies; the remainders of Bbyong army try to drop all around the place Follow up push by BByong get cleaned up equal supplies; muta/ling/bling vs 4M 3-3 started for Bbyong
Huge Zergling runby at Bbyongs third, forces a lift, kills SCVs and prevents mining Bbyongs push takes out the 4th while doing some damage with a drop at the 3rd
drop gets caught by mutalisks Sleep taking out some army right before 3-3 finishes Mutas harassing the main 3-3 finishes, but Bbyong is forced to retreat; the mutas kill some of the medivacs; 4th and 5th base for Sleep Hive starting; Baneling landmines killing some marines
21:00 Sleeps attack getting stopped a drop kills his 5th base with no drones Mutas kill the 4th CC before it can be morphed into a planetary Sleep holds his forth again
On September 04 2013 21:40 Big J wrote: Sleep vs Bbyong Game 3 Map: Derelict Watcher 0:00 Sleep starting in the bottom left Bbyong starting in the top right
3:00 Notable: Sleep always checking for proxies before expanding reaper opening for Bbyong hatch first for Sleep, no gas this time
Sleep adding the gas a little later Sleep catching the first reaper with 4 Zerglings and a drone building a crawler
6:00-7:00 2 CCs, a 3rd reaper and reactored hellions for Bbyong Zergling speed and 3rd base for Sleeps; Overlord sees it all
8:30 Standard bio play this time for Bbyong Sleep with the slightly faster upgrades; Lair and baneling nest on the way
11:00 The Calm before the storm: Both sides macroing up, 4th base and macro hatch for Sleep
12:00-15:00 First push gets cleaned up equal supplies; the remainders of Bbyong army try to drop all around the place Follow up push by BByong get cleaned up equal supplies; muta/ling/bling vs 4M 3-3 started for Bbyong
Huge Zergling runby at Bbyongs third, forces a lift, kills SCVs and prevents mining Bbyongs push takes out the 4th while doing some damage with a drop at the 3rd
drop gets caught by mutalisks Sleep taking out some army right before 3-3 finishes Mutas harassing the main 3-3 finishes, but Bbyong is forced to retreat; the mutas kill some of the medivacs; 4th and 5th base for Sleep Hive starting; Baneling landmines killing some marines
21:00 Sleeps attack getting stopped a drop kills his 5th base with no drones Mutas kill the 4th CC before it can be morphed into a planetary Sleep holds his forth again
Sleep killing all the medivacs on the retreat; pushes Bbyong back to his bases 60supply lead for Sleep More Mutas, Zerglings and Banelings
On September 04 2013 21:42 Big J wrote: [quote] 3:00 Notable: Sleep always checking for proxies before expanding reaper opening for Bbyong hatch first for Sleep, no gas this time
Sleep adding the gas a little later Sleep catching the first reaper with 4 Zerglings and a drone building a crawler
6:00-7:00 2 CCs, a 3rd reaper and reactored hellions for Bbyong Zergling speed and 3rd base for Sleeps; Overlord sees it all
8:30 Standard bio play this time for Bbyong Sleep with the slightly faster upgrades; Lair and baneling nest on the way
11:00 The Calm before the storm: Both sides macroing up, 4th base and macro hatch for Sleep
12:00-15:00 First push gets cleaned up equal supplies; the remainders of Bbyong army try to drop all around the place Follow up push by BByong get cleaned up equal supplies; muta/ling/bling vs 4M 3-3 started for Bbyong
Huge Zergling runby at Bbyongs third, forces a lift, kills SCVs and prevents mining Bbyongs push takes out the 4th while doing some damage with a drop at the 3rd
drop gets caught by mutalisks Sleep taking out some army right before 3-3 finishes Mutas harassing the main 3-3 finishes, but Bbyong is forced to retreat; the mutas kill some of the medivacs; 4th and 5th base for Sleep Hive starting; Baneling landmines killing some marines
21:00 Sleeps attack getting stopped a drop kills his 5th base with no drones Mutas kill the 4th CC before it can be morphed into a planetary Sleep holds his forth again
Sleep killing all the medivacs on the retreat; pushes Bbyong back to his bases 60supply lead for Sleep More Mutas, Zerglings and Banelings
25:00 160 vs 100 supply; Sleep trying to end the game Mutas kill the Main CC that has been lifted to take the 4th
On September 04 2013 21:43 Big J wrote: [quote] Sleep adding the gas a little later Sleep catching the first reaper with 4 Zerglings and a drone building a crawler
6:00-7:00 2 CCs, a 3rd reaper and reactored hellions for Bbyong Zergling speed and 3rd base for Sleeps; Overlord sees it all
8:30 Standard bio play this time for Bbyong Sleep with the slightly faster upgrades; Lair and baneling nest on the way
11:00 The Calm before the storm: Both sides macroing up, 4th base and macro hatch for Sleep
12:00-15:00 First push gets cleaned up equal supplies; the remainders of Bbyong army try to drop all around the place Follow up push by BByong get cleaned up equal supplies; muta/ling/bling vs 4M 3-3 started for Bbyong
Huge Zergling runby at Bbyongs third, forces a lift, kills SCVs and prevents mining Bbyongs push takes out the 4th while doing some damage with a drop at the 3rd
drop gets caught by mutalisks Sleep taking out some army right before 3-3 finishes Mutas harassing the main 3-3 finishes, but Bbyong is forced to retreat; the mutas kill some of the medivacs; 4th and 5th base for Sleep Hive starting; Baneling landmines killing some marines
21:00 Sleeps attack getting stopped a drop kills his 5th base with no drones Mutas kill the 4th CC before it can be morphed into a planetary Sleep holds his forth again
Sleep killing all the medivacs on the retreat; pushes Bbyong back to his bases 60supply lead for Sleep More Mutas, Zerglings and Banelings
25:00 160 vs 100 supply; Sleep trying to end the game Mutas kill the Main CC that has been lifted to take the 4th
27:00 110 vs 55supply, hardly any mining for Bbyong Bbyong pushes out and gets decimated Bbyong ggs 2-1 Sleep Sleep advances!
★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (3)
14%
★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (1)
5%
★ - Do not watch this game no matter what (0)
0%
21 total votes
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If Sleep can fix his weaknesses (coughmacrocough) he has potential to go far as a player. I don't see him making it through this seasons ro16, even with Artosis blessing him
On September 04 2013 22:00 Roqshu wrote: GSL Code S best tournament in the world, Tasteless? I'm pretty sure those times are over.
what else would you say is the best tournament? they have the best competition, best casters, good consistent production etc
It's up there at the top with other tournaments. But watching GSL isn't as entertaining as a lot of other tournaments, even if the competition is decent. Best casters? Well Artosis is great, Tasteless is....okay. Just my opinion, don't want to rustle anybody's Jimmies.
On September 04 2013 21:59 Keeemy wrote: FUCK YES SLEEP! Awesome, so happy for him. Isn't this like his best result ever in GSL?
Seeing how this is Sleep's first ever Code S... Obviously not, he qualified for one of the open seasons. Nothing beats getting to the open season Ro64.
On September 04 2013 22:00 Roqshu wrote: GSL Code S best tournament in the world, Tasteless? I'm pretty sure those times are over.
what else would you say is the best tournament? they have the best competition, best casters, good consistent production etc
It's up there at the top with other tournaments. But watching GSL isn't as entertaining as a lot of other tournaments, even if the competition is decent. Best casters? Well Artosis is great, Tasteless is....okay. Just my opinion, don't want to rustle anybody's Jimmies.
if it's your opinion then don't present it as fact
On September 04 2013 22:00 Roqshu wrote: GSL Code S best tournament in the world, Tasteless? I'm pretty sure those times are over.
what else would you say is the best tournament? they have the best competition, best casters, good consistent production etc
It's up there at the top with other tournaments. But watching GSL isn't as entertaining as a lot of other tournaments, even if the competition is decent. Best casters? Well Artosis is great, Tasteless is....okay. Just my opinion, don't want to rustle anybody's Jimmies.
if it's your opinion then don't present it as fact
Are you mentally retarded, or do you just have an inability to read?
On September 04 2013 22:00 Roqshu wrote: GSL Code S best tournament in the world, Tasteless? I'm pretty sure those times are over.
what else would you say is the best tournament? they have the best competition, best casters, good consistent production etc
It's up there at the top with other tournaments. But watching GSL isn't as entertaining as a lot of other tournaments, even if the competition is decent. Best casters? Well Artosis is great, Tasteless is....okay. Just my opinion, don't want to rustle anybody's Jimmies.
if it's your opinion then don't present it as fact
Are you mentally retarded, or do you just have an inability to read?
On September 04 2013 22:16 DarkLordOlli wrote: It wasn't Shellbot
Looks like we can get some kind of Western-style rivalry between him and the guy that temp banned him. Too bad we're the targets.
Well, we just have to flamebait all the time to feed them targets. So far it's been the Summer of KBB but Shellbot hasn't gotten a single ban just yet.
KBB vs Shellbot. The Flash vs Jaedong of TL banlings.
So Artosis blessed Sleep (i am yet to go through twitch vods, and it seems there were no really interesting games, except Maru and Sleep outmicroing everyone).
On September 05 2013 00:00 xpldngmn wrote: I had to leave when the battlecruisers came out, stupid description of twitch VODs won't allow me to find it again. very sad
Just noticed a neat little fact. If you don't count PartinG as KeSPA for this, since he wasn't one of the original KeSPA players that moved over to SC2 not too long ago, it's actually completely even between eSF and KeSPA. 16 of each in Ro32, and so far 4 of each in the Ro16. The balance is pretty good!
On September 05 2013 01:13 _Nova_ wrote: Grats to Maru, and Sleep~
Just noticed a neat little fact. If you don't count PartinG as KeSPA for this, since he wasn't one of the original KeSPA players that moved over to SC2 not too long ago, it's actually completely even between eSF and KeSPA. 16 of each in Ro32, and so far 4 of each in the Ro16. The balance is pretty good!
Let KeSPA have Parting, eSF gets Trap and Dear now that Soul plays GSTL :p
On September 05 2013 01:13 _Nova_ wrote: Grats to Maru, and Sleep~
Just noticed a neat little fact. If you don't count PartinG as KeSPA for this, since he wasn't one of the original KeSPA players that moved over to SC2 not too long ago, it's actually completely even between eSF and KeSPA. 16 of each in Ro32, and so far 4 of each in the Ro16. The balance is pretty good!
Let KeSPA have Parting, eSF gets Trap and Dear now that Soul plays GSTL :p
hyvaa too;
but actually it's not quite that way at all. With IM, Prime, MVP leaving eSF and Innovation on Acer, jjakji on MYinsanity we have:
13 Kespa players 9 players from IM, MVP or Prime 8 eSF players 2 players on a foreign team
EPT![[image loading]](http://img.gomtv.net/imgdata/104685.jpg)
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GOMTV | ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/7/7f/Twitch_ico.png)
WCS GSL ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/6wl40.png)
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Maru vs 
Sleep![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/2241.jpg)
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Sleep spawns in the bottom right
Dream spawns in the top left
