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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 03 2013 03:17 GMT
#81
On September 03 2013 11:43 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 10:43 lichter wrote:
Why does no one care about WCS AM

ty for thread


WCS AM Challenger *


There is an ALL NA GROUP soon (I think next?)

If no one makes a thread for that then I am calling bullshit on all the "regionlock WCS" arguments. Want region lock and can't even make the effort for your homegrown players? -_-''
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xxxxxxb
Profile Joined October 2009
155 Posts
September 03 2013 03:22 GMT
#82
On September 03 2013 11:17 lichter wrote:
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On September 03 2013 11:02 xxxxxxb wrote:
Sorry that I can't be here everyday to bring this up but the WO thing is bs regardless of who plays. State isn't my favorite anything.


Blame the player that forfeited or the organization for not finding a solution. Don't blame the format (some people have) or the players who played for taking advantage of the WO.


The obvious solution is: have backups. Which is what I suggested and it has to be done by the organization, not by the players.
Yet I get labeled as a whiner because ... well, I don't even get it.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 03 2013 03:29 GMT
#83
On September 03 2013 12:22 xxxxxxb wrote:
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On September 03 2013 11:17 lichter wrote:
On September 03 2013 11:02 xxxxxxb wrote:
Sorry that I can't be here everyday to bring this up but the WO thing is bs regardless of who plays. State isn't my favorite anything.


Blame the player that forfeited or the organization for not finding a solution. Don't blame the format (some people have) or the players who played for taking advantage of the WO.


The obvious solution is: have backups. Which is what I suggested and it has to be done by the organization, not by the players.
Yet I get labeled as a whiner because ... well, I don't even get it.


Only one person with 33 posts called you anything like that lol I agree with you that WOs suck but some people are going overboard calling out the format or the players. NASL need to have backup plans for players that forfeit well in advance.
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Darthsanta13
Profile Joined July 2011
United States564 Posts
September 03 2013 03:36 GMT
#84
The other obvious solution would be to move to a different format since using GSL-style groups obviously makes no sense with only three people. Hell, they didn't even rearrange the group so the highest seed (State) was the person with the advantage. Why there hasn't been a fix implemented, or at least explored, especially with 3 man groups being a somewhat common occurrence in WCS NA is beyond me.
ETgoBoom
Profile Joined January 2010
United States36 Posts
September 03 2013 03:51 GMT
#85
so hyun plays state, and only state 5 times. he wins 2 of the 5 games, so he gets to move on to premiere...
Once you eat a Slim Jim anything is possible. - EDGE
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 03 2013 03:55 GMT
#86
On September 03 2013 12:51 ETgoBoom wrote:
so hyun plays state, and only state 5 times. he wins 2 of the 5 games, so he gets to move on to premiere...


Map scores are irrelevant compared to Match scores.

Who wins:
Lakers 88 - 90 Heat
Lakers 120 - 66 Heat
Lakers 90 - 100 Heat

Heat win 2 games, but Lakers outscored them 42 points total. Doesn't matter, since we are looking at games not scores. Same thing here. We look at matches, not maps.
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fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
September 03 2013 04:21 GMT
#87
On September 03 2013 12:17 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 11:43 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
On September 03 2013 10:43 lichter wrote:
Why does no one care about WCS AM

ty for thread


WCS AM Challenger *


There is an ALL NA GROUP soon (I think next?)

If no one makes a thread for that then I am calling bullshit on all the "regionlock WCS" arguments. Want region lock and can't even make the effort for your homegrown players? -_-''


Fucking challenger bro, it means nothing regardless. If there was an all NA Premier group then you could base something on that.
NoGasfOu
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1117 Posts
September 03 2013 04:23 GMT
#88
I didn't see anyone whine before they broadcasted the games.
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 03 2013 04:26 GMT
#89
On September 03 2013 13:21 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 12:17 lichter wrote:
On September 03 2013 11:43 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
On September 03 2013 10:43 lichter wrote:
Why does no one care about WCS AM

ty for thread


WCS AM Challenger *


There is an ALL NA GROUP soon (I think next?)

If no one makes a thread for that then I am calling bullshit on all the "regionlock WCS" arguments. Want region lock and can't even make the effort for your homegrown players? -_-''


Fucking challenger bro, it means nothing regardless. If there was an all NA Premier group then you could base something on that.


There are already 5, soon to be 7, might even be 8. There might be two full groups of NA players next season :o
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-03 04:59:57
September 03 2013 04:57 GMT
#90
On September 03 2013 13:23 NoGasfOu wrote:
I didn't see anyone whine before they broadcasted the games.

people tend to whine after their favorite player is knocked out or just loses (not saying the format is fair or w/e) I do think something should be changed when it's only 3 people in a group.

On September 03 2013 11:41 lichter wrote:
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On September 03 2013 11:32 Yhamm wrote:
On September 03 2013 10:43 lichter wrote:
Why does no one care about WCS AM

ty for thread

challenger and only 3 players


I mean no one bothered to make the thread early again x_x

I was busy with family or I would have done it.
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 03 2013 05:22 GMT
#91
On September 03 2013 13:57 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 13:23 NoGasfOu wrote:
I didn't see anyone whine before they broadcasted the games.

people tend to whine after their favorite player is knocked out or just loses (not saying the format is fair or w/e) I do think something should be changed when it's only 3 people in a group.

Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 11:41 lichter wrote:
On September 03 2013 11:32 Yhamm wrote:
On September 03 2013 10:43 lichter wrote:
Why does no one care about WCS AM

ty for thread

challenger and only 3 players


I mean no one bothered to make the thread early again x_x

I was busy with family or I would have done it.


WCS AM needs more passionate bros like you
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RifleCow
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada637 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-03 13:28:00
September 03 2013 13:26 GMT
#92
On September 03 2013 13:26 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 13:21 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
On September 03 2013 12:17 lichter wrote:
On September 03 2013 11:43 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
On September 03 2013 10:43 lichter wrote:
Why does no one care about WCS AM

ty for thread


WCS AM Challenger *


There is an ALL NA GROUP soon (I think next?)

If no one makes a thread for that then I am calling bullshit on all the "regionlock WCS" arguments. Want region lock and can't even make the effort for your homegrown players? -_-''


Fucking challenger bro, it means nothing regardless. If there was an all NA Premier group then you could base something on that.


There are already 5, soon to be 7, might even be 8. There might be two full groups of NA players next season :o

Are NA players getting better or are koreans getting worse?

Also: I catch a lot of these challenger games. So if people can't make these threads I can probably do a few, as it seems my first one (this one) went pretty well. The low interest games don't require too much work, since there's no LR and no real need for polls.
hohoho
Droom
Profile Joined May 2009
23 Posts
September 04 2013 00:14 GMT
#93
Seems to me that the structure of the Group E was very unfair to State. Is there a link where I can voice my concerns to Blizzard? Thx
tskarzyn
Profile Joined July 2010
United States516 Posts
September 04 2013 12:03 GMT
#94
Was anyone else having a hard time watching the casting between gretorp and mr bitters? Gretorp was acting like a nut job the whole cast, very passive aggressive and combative with mr bitters, followed by Mr Bitters trying to hide the fact that Gretorp was annoying the sht out of him with his observing mistakes and constant stupid questions. in addition to questioning all of mr bitters strategy related comments, gretorp seemed to pick a bone with pretty much everything bitters said...

mr bitters: "it would be nice to be in korea, it is a tropical paradise"
gretorp "no it's not. have you even been to korea?"
mr bitters "no, that's just what i heard"
gretorp "who told you that?"
mr bitters: "Violet. He used to live there...."

or this one

Mr Bitters: that is no bueno for hyun!
Gretorp: oh man, no bueno for hyun.
Gretorp: wait, did you just say no bueno too?
Mr Bitters: yes....
Gretorp: you copied me! that is my line
Mr Bitters: maybe you copied me...
Gretorp: no, because i speak spanish with my gf

Then Gretorp goes on to quiz Mr Bitters on Spanish, distracting them from the actual cast. After failing to stump mr bitters, gretorp goes on to say that he has been speaking Spanish longer than Mr Bitters and had been speaking it before he met his (Spanish speaking) girlfriend. Mr Bitters, visibly frustrated, says "You just lied to me."

And on it went for the whole cast.

Doesn't sound that bad in text but I thought it was absolutely brutal to watch. How does Gretorp get paid to cast? Unprofessional, poor caster, has weird complex where he is constantly trying to prove that he is more knowledgeable than his fellow caster, not funny yet rambles non stop. the guy needs to get the axe.
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