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2stra
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands928 Posts
August 25 2013 11:04 GMT
#1141
My ultra usage often ends up looking very silly. Now I can say I use them like Jaedong : )
i.of.the.storm
Profile Joined April 2009
United States795 Posts
August 25 2013 11:04 GMT
#1142
On August 25 2013 20:03 Heouf wrote:
lmfao at you people he didnt even lose those ultra´s so it was no big deal that jaedong attacked there. Lmfao at al these opinions of plays. So close minded. Just looking at a play and not the whole play.


He definitely lost ultras, but ok. Though I do think Jaedong knew what he was doing, but it looked so bizarre.
Maru - The Terran hope is alive!
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
August 25 2013 11:04 GMT
#1143
On August 25 2013 20:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 20:02 Dodgin wrote:
On August 25 2013 20:01 stuchiu wrote:
MC's advice to First: Here do these 4 builds in this order. Proxy 2 gate. Choya 4 gate. gate expo into Swag Train. And then play a macro game.


which build is swag train again?

immortal zealot all-in without +1 (not real man train) AFAIK.



You mean the 1 gas immortal zealot push off a gateway xpand? I thought that was the Man Train :D
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
August 25 2013 11:04 GMT
#1144
--- Nuked ---
nAgeDitto
Profile Joined April 2011
United States428 Posts
August 25 2013 11:04 GMT
#1145
I think I know why first moved out. JD's moveout looked like he was just trying to empty hiz supply for a massive muta switch. I think first wanted to do some damage before that.
Abominous
Profile Joined March 2013
Croatia1625 Posts
August 25 2013 11:04 GMT
#1146
On August 25 2013 20:04 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 20:03 Abominous wrote:
Okay guys, in order to THROW a game, you have to establish a LEAD first (pun). First never lead that game.

He did not have lead but lost the game in worst way possible, Fastest one too though, without going full idra.

So it's not a throw.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 11:05:51
August 25 2013 11:04 GMT
#1147
On August 25 2013 20:04 Douillos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 20:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 25 2013 20:02 Dodgin wrote:
On August 25 2013 20:01 stuchiu wrote:
MC's advice to First: Here do these 4 builds in this order. Proxy 2 gate. Choya 4 gate. gate expo into Swag Train. And then play a macro game.


which build is swag train again?

immortal zealot all-in without +1 (not real man train) AFAIK.



You mean the 1 gas immortal zealot push off a gateway xpand? I thought that was the Man Train :D

Man train gets forge and +1. Swag train does not get either.
EDIT: Funny, i start to understand those toss all-ins, but i do not even ladder that much lol.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50196 Posts
August 25 2013 11:05 GMT
#1148
On August 25 2013 20:04 Abominous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 20:04 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 25 2013 20:03 Abominous wrote:
Okay guys, in order to THROW a game, you have to establish a LEAD first (pun). First never lead that game.

He did not have lead but lost the game in worst way possible, Fastest one too though, without going full idra.

So it's not a throw.

he never had it to throw it.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
August 25 2013 11:05 GMT
#1149
Out of all sites I thought TL would give JD more credit :/
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 11:05:53
August 25 2013 11:05 GMT
#1150
On August 25 2013 20:03 Seiniyta wrote:
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On August 25 2013 20:01 aZealot wrote:
On August 25 2013 20:00 Dodgin wrote:
rain and first are supposed to be the paragons of protoss macro, decision making and solid play but they still both derp a lot d;


The psionic build up in their brains from lack of enough all-ins makes them light-headed leading to derp.


To be honest, Naniwa is at times more impressive then either Rain or First. I genuinely think Naniwa at this point is one of the top protoss in the world (not only foreign). Jaedong will probably win this 3-0 or 3-1


Naniwa plays in korea so he plays like they do
Abominous
Profile Joined March 2013
Croatia1625 Posts
August 25 2013 11:05 GMT
#1151
On August 25 2013 20:05 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 20:04 Abominous wrote:
On August 25 2013 20:04 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 25 2013 20:03 Abominous wrote:
Okay guys, in order to THROW a game, you have to establish a LEAD first (pun). First never lead that game.

He did not have lead but lost the game in worst way possible, Fastest one too though, without going full idra.

So it's not a throw.

he never had it to throw it.

I argued that in my first post.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44153 Posts
August 25 2013 11:06 GMT
#1152
i just opened the stream and i see JD winning 1-0

was it good ? how did he win ?
this is a quote
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 25 2013 11:06 GMT
#1153
Protoss builds are more stupidly named then arena comps tbh
YyapSsap
Profile Joined September 2010
New Zealand1511 Posts
August 25 2013 11:06 GMT
#1154
On August 25 2013 20:02 TAMinator wrote:
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On August 25 2013 20:01 Vandrad wrote:
LOL @ people saying first threw -.-

He did. There was no reason to go out in the middle of the map with 130 supply against a fast reinforcing army of JDs


This is what i meant. There was literally zero reason to even think about moving out lol all he had to do was turtle efficiently.. yet he fell victim to sos-syndrome :p
megapants
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1314 Posts
August 25 2013 11:06 GMT
#1155
JD going for a more standard gas timing this game, lair and roach warren at 7:00
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
August 25 2013 11:06 GMT
#1156
--- Nuked ---
i.of.the.storm
Profile Joined April 2009
United States795 Posts
August 25 2013 11:06 GMT
#1157
On August 25 2013 20:04 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
I love how nobody even thinks of JD as a mindgame champion using the very oldschool strategy called: BAITING.


Hmm, I think you hit the nail on the head, that makes perfect sense. Make First think Jaedong just made a huge mistake, while he knows that First can't have much of an army, and lure him out into the open to get crushed by reinforcements. Thanks for clearing that up.
Maru - The Terran hope is alive!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50196 Posts
August 25 2013 11:06 GMT
#1158
On August 25 2013 20:05 Abominous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 20:05 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On August 25 2013 20:04 Abominous wrote:
On August 25 2013 20:04 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 25 2013 20:03 Abominous wrote:
Okay guys, in order to THROW a game, you have to establish a LEAD first (pun). First never lead that game.

He did not have lead but lost the game in worst way possible, Fastest one too though, without going full idra.

So it's not a throw.

he never had it to throw it.

I argued that in my first post.


exactly, just concurring with you.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
August 25 2013 11:06 GMT
#1159
On August 25 2013 20:06 goody153 wrote:
i just opened the stream and i see JD winning 1-0

was it good ? how did he win ?

Chogolingus + Mindgame = Ended
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
August 25 2013 11:06 GMT
#1160
On August 25 2013 20:03 Seiniyta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 20:01 aZealot wrote:
On August 25 2013 20:00 Dodgin wrote:
rain and first are supposed to be the paragons of protoss macro, decision making and solid play but they still both derp a lot d;


The psionic build up in their brains from lack of enough all-ins makes them light-headed leading to derp.


To be honest, Naniwa is at times more impressive then either Rain or First. I genuinely think Naniwa at this point is one of the top protoss in the world (not only foreign). Jaedong will probably win this 3-0 or 3-1


Oh, I agree. But, Naniwa does need more consistency. If he achieves that, then yeah, he would certainly be a top Protoss.
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