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[WCS] Day 3 Season 2 Grand Finals 2013 - Page 102

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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 25 2013 12:07 GMT
#2021
On August 25 2013 21:05 raga4ka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 21:00 Dodgin wrote:
I get really tired of the " lol koreans who play in wcs am/eu ran away from GSL because they couldn't handle the competition " people on this site so when AM crushes KR like this it makes me happy

the most elitist of all elitists


Doesn't change anything . WCS Korea is still worlds apart the other WCS qualifiers in terms of difficulty . Doesn't matter if Korea region representatives played badly .


It's not worlds apart, especially in the later stages of the tournament. top 4 of WCS AM is nearly just as good(as shown by this tournament) as maru/inno/bomber/rain
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
August 25 2013 12:07 GMT
#2022
On August 25 2013 21:06 Dodgin wrote:
It's pretty much impossible for any of the players over 3500 points with next season left to play to not make blizzcon, so we can assume innovation soulkey JD polt alive Mvp and hero are locks.


That's starting to be such a nice line up.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
August 25 2013 12:07 GMT
#2023
On August 25 2013 21:05 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 21:04 Wintex wrote:
On August 25 2013 21:02 NarutO wrote:
In TvT - there is no Bomber's law

In Tv* you mean.

Except when playing versus Prime Terran players. He knows how to be overconfident versus those.

Prime terrans are just better TvT'ers. see Maru vs Innovation


? Prime terrans have almost always been weakest in TvT, Maru vs bogus was just preparation. You don't watch 1 series and make a statement as general as that lol.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10154 Posts
August 25 2013 12:07 GMT
#2024
On August 25 2013 21:06 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 21:06 Dodgin wrote:
It's pretty much impossible for any of the players over 3500 points with next season left to play to not make blizzcon, so we can assume innovation soulkey JD polt alive Mvp and hero are locks.


That's already the best lineup ever.

It has hero on it, it could be better :D
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 25 2013 12:07 GMT
#2025
On August 25 2013 21:06 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 21:05 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 25 2013 21:04 MrCon wrote:
On August 25 2013 20:54 Emzeeshady wrote:
On August 25 2013 20:48 highsis wrote:
Just as I predicted. Terran will win, no matter what. TvZ is very difficult for Zerg to win.

Protoss does well in ro 8, but past it they can't beat terran. PvZ seems 50:50 though. First was terrible and not good anyway.

And now with Terran buff in TvP incoming, high level TvP will absolutely favour Terran. I can't believe DK is trying to incorporate helbats into already powerful ghost-medivac composition. Not that I expected any better for the balance any time soon.

I'm glad it's all been made very clear that Protoss will never win major tournaments with many Korean participants, especially with T and Z buff on shedule, no less. Not to be spiteful, but I am less inclined to watch SC2 since it's just getting tiresome watching protoss getting crushed at top level again and again.

I hope Jaedong wins this tournament, lest we see another terran victory.

I thought it was pretty well recognized that PvT favours Protoss?


PvT favors the better player I think =P

After watching Rain vs TaeJa yesterday i do not think so. Killed dozens of observers and high templars. Still on brink of losing battle and losing game in 5 seconds.

Are you seriously complaining Protoss is op based off a 3-0 win for Terran? ^^

I just find it frustrating for terran. And i play zerg :D
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44282 Posts
August 25 2013 12:07 GMT
#2026
On August 25 2013 21:06 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 21:06 Dodgin wrote:
It's pretty much impossible for any of the players over 3500 points with next season left to play to not make blizzcon, so we can assume innovation soulkey JD polt alive Mvp and hero are locks.


That's already the best lineup ever.

wow that is scary
this is a quote
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16848 Posts
August 25 2013 12:07 GMT
#2027
On August 25 2013 21:06 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 21:06 Wintex wrote:
On August 25 2013 21:05 bo1b wrote:
On August 25 2013 21:04 Wintex wrote:
On August 25 2013 21:02 NarutO wrote:
In TvT - there is no Bomber's law

In Tv* you mean.

Except when playing versus Prime Terran players. He knows how to be overconfident versus those.

Bomber fans.

I like to think I'm on a level of fanboyishness that's sickening. I don't think many are like me, thankfully.


I like to think that I get pretty obnoxious when it comes to Life and (partly) Naniwa as well

I do get the one about Life tho.
The Naniwa one is more because you're swedish.
The Bomber boy
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 25 2013 12:08 GMT
#2028
On August 25 2013 21:07 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 21:06 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 25 2013 21:06 Dodgin wrote:
It's pretty much impossible for any of the players over 3500 points with next season left to play to not make blizzcon, so we can assume innovation soulkey JD polt alive Mvp and hero are locks.


That's already the best lineup ever.

It has hero on it, it could be better :D


Yeah, he should be rank 1
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
i_bE_free
Profile Joined June 2013
United States73 Posts
August 25 2013 12:08 GMT
#2029
comon taeja
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
August 25 2013 12:08 GMT
#2030
Fun fact - Bomber's 11% loss rate in TvT is to Ryung. (1 game in GSTL)
ShroudeD
Profile Joined August 2012
Greece1333 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 12:09:01
August 25 2013 12:08 GMT
#2031
bomber probably mech
nvm
Mvp,Fantasy 4ever
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
August 25 2013 12:08 GMT
#2032
On August 25 2013 21:07 Wintex wrote:
It's not a disappointment if he loses when our community is voting for TaeJa (going by the majority is how this is decided).


already losing faith huh?
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 25 2013 12:08 GMT
#2033
On August 25 2013 21:08 Elite_ wrote:
Fun fact - Bomber's 11% loss rate in TvT is to Ryung. (1 game in GSTL)

You forgot Bbyong.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
August 25 2013 12:08 GMT
#2034
On August 25 2013 21:07 Badfatpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 21:05 Lorning wrote:
On August 25 2013 21:04 Wintex wrote:
On August 25 2013 21:02 NarutO wrote:
In TvT - there is no Bomber's law

In Tv* you mean.

Except when playing versus Prime Terran players. He knows how to be overconfident versus those.

Prime terrans are just better TvT'ers. see Maru vs Innovation


? Prime terrans have almost always been weakest in TvT, Maru vs bogus was just preparation. You don't watch 1 series and make a statement as general as that lol.

we're bm'ing StarTale fanboys, Primebro. Please stand by me
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 25 2013 12:08 GMT
#2035
On August 25 2013 21:07 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 21:05 raga4ka wrote:
On August 25 2013 21:00 Dodgin wrote:
I get really tired of the " lol koreans who play in wcs am/eu ran away from GSL because they couldn't handle the competition " people on this site so when AM crushes KR like this it makes me happy

the most elitist of all elitists


Doesn't change anything . WCS Korea is still worlds apart the other WCS qualifiers in terms of difficulty . Doesn't matter if Korea region representatives played badly .


It's not worlds apart, especially in the later stages of the tournament. top 4 of WCS AM is nearly just as good(as shown by this tournament) as maru/inno/bomber/rain

I think this tournament has shown that it's better lol
BackSideAttack
Profile Joined December 2010
1103 Posts
August 25 2013 12:08 GMT
#2036
On August 25 2013 21:07 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 21:05 raga4ka wrote:
On August 25 2013 21:00 Dodgin wrote:
I get really tired of the " lol koreans who play in wcs am/eu ran away from GSL because they couldn't handle the competition " people on this site so when AM crushes KR like this it makes me happy

the most elitist of all elitists


Doesn't change anything . WCS Korea is still worlds apart the other WCS qualifiers in terms of difficulty . Doesn't matter if Korea region representatives played badly .


It's not worlds apart, especially in the later stages of the tournament. top 4 of WCS AM is nearly just as good(as shown by this tournament) as maru/inno/bomber/rain


I'm pretty sure if this event took place in Korea, WCS Korea reps would do a lot better considering that they aren't used to traveling.
Derity
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2952 Posts
August 25 2013 12:08 GMT
#2037
    (1856) Bomber  0-0  TaeJa (1865)     
-----------------------------------------
12.22% 3-0 0-3 12.78%
18.47% 3-1 1-3 19.03%
18.61% 3-2 2-3 18.89%
-----------------------------------------
49.29% 50.71%

Median outcome: Bomber 2-3 TaeJa

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16848 Posts
August 25 2013 12:09 GMT
#2038
On August 25 2013 21:08 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 21:07 Wintex wrote:
It's not a disappointment if he loses when our community is voting for TaeJa (going by the majority is how this is decided).


already losing faith huh?

No, but people will shout untrue shit, and I hate lies and not following rules, EVEN if they don't favor me.
The Bomber boy
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9223 Posts
August 25 2013 12:09 GMT
#2039
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 25 2013 21:08 Derity wrote:
    (1856) Bomber  0-0  TaeJa (1865)     
-----------------------------------------
12.22% 3-0 0-3 12.78%
18.47% 3-1 1-3 19.03%
18.61% 3-2 2-3 18.89%
-----------------------------------------
49.29% 50.71%

Median outcome: Bomber 2-3 TaeJa

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
How is this possible? I'm confused.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Daogin
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada2308 Posts
August 25 2013 12:09 GMT
#2040
On August 25 2013 21:08 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 21:07 Wintex wrote:
It's not a disappointment if he loses when our community is voting for TaeJa (going by the majority is how this is decided).


already losing faith huh?

It's not a disappointment in general, it's not like he is expected to win every damn tournament he enters, this silly "law" crap is bonkers.
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