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On August 18 2013 20:25 Swisslink wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2013 20:24 Aunvilgod wrote:On August 18 2013 20:22 lolfail9001 wrote:On August 18 2013 20:21 Aunvilgod wrote:On August 18 2013 20:17 Swisslink wrote:On August 18 2013 20:04 p14c wrote:On August 18 2013 19:55 Swisslink wrote:On August 18 2013 19:53 Thrillz wrote:On August 18 2013 19:50 DrPandaPhD wrote:On August 18 2013 19:47 NicksonReyes wrote:
Good players <<<<<<<<<<< Better players
Game is fucking broken. Terran has like 70% winrate in Korea ZvT atm. But I guess just the better players chose Terran. E.G Sjow beating Life because Sjow is better )))))) Life is probably better at LoL than SC2 atm T.T ... and he's probably still one of the top 3 Zerg in ZvT. He's not even close. He's so bad now that even foreigners beat him. Well, which Zerg would you consider stronger than Life? Soulkey, maybe Scarlett and Jaedong and afterwards... there are no Zerg which are even "decent" in the Matchup :-) HAHAHAHAHA get out Well, to be fair if we do not take players JD and Scarlett get to play against into consideration we could consider 'em doing better than most of Korean zergs. If do not take them into consideration, yes. But we do. Otherwise we could say DeMuslim is one of the best players in the world because he has an amazing winrate on NA... That's why I said "maybe", because it's hard to judge how they'd do agains the Korean Terrans (Season finals will show). But my point is just: There aren't too many Zerg who I'd consider to be stronger than Life (In this specific matchup!) and the results lately prove that quite well, IMO.
With the recent migration of lower level Koreans into WCS NA and EU it surely has become extremely hard to tell who is how good.
In that specific case I really doubt Either Scarlett or JD are better than Life.
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On August 18 2013 20:47 Aunvilgod wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2013 20:25 Swisslink wrote:On August 18 2013 20:24 Aunvilgod wrote:On August 18 2013 20:22 lolfail9001 wrote:On August 18 2013 20:21 Aunvilgod wrote:On August 18 2013 20:17 Swisslink wrote:On August 18 2013 20:04 p14c wrote:On August 18 2013 19:55 Swisslink wrote:On August 18 2013 19:53 Thrillz wrote:On August 18 2013 19:50 DrPandaPhD wrote:
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Terran has like 70% winrate in Korea ZvT atm. But I guess just the better players chose Terran. E.G Sjow beating Life because Sjow is better )))))) Life is probably better at LoL than SC2 atm T.T ... and he's probably still one of the top 3 Zerg in ZvT. He's not even close. He's so bad now that even foreigners beat him. Well, which Zerg would you consider stronger than Life? Soulkey, maybe Scarlett and Jaedong and afterwards... there are no Zerg which are even "decent" in the Matchup :-) HAHAHAHAHA get out Well, to be fair if we do not take players JD and Scarlett get to play against into consideration we could consider 'em doing better than most of Korean zergs. If do not take them into consideration, yes. But we do. Otherwise we could say DeMuslim is one of the best players in the world because he has an amazing winrate on NA... That's why I said "maybe", because it's hard to judge how they'd do agains the Korean Terrans (Season finals will show). But my point is just: There aren't too many Zerg who I'd consider to be stronger than Life (In this specific matchup!) and the results lately prove that quite well, IMO. With the recent migration of lower level Koreans into WCS NA and EU it surely has become extremely hard to tell who is how good. In that specific case I really doubt Either Scarlett or JD are better than Life.
Scarlett and JD vs jjakji match required!
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On August 18 2013 20:57 Inflicted_ wrote:2-0'd both  Rain and 2-0  INnoVation PartinG is the best player in the world... until he meets a zerg.
Yeah, funnily enough here is the trivia:
Soulkey 2 0 Parting
Parting 2 0 Innovation
Innovation 100500 0 Soulkey
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What bothers me as a spectator is that there is zero comeback chance for the zerg once the terran gets ahead while the terran seems to pull off "amazing" comebacks. And for those talking about brood lords in game2 plz take a look on that map and the bases and tell me how SK is going to defend them with BL against the mobile army of innovation.
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On August 18 2013 21:19 Fjodorov wrote:
What bothers me as a spectator is that there is zero comeback chance for the zerg once the terran gets ahead while the terran seems to pull off "amazing" comebacks. And for those talking about brood lords in game2 plz take a look on that map and the bases and tell me how SK is going to defend them with BL against the mobile army of innovation.
What sounds "strange" to me aboutTvZ (Not whine since im protoss fan), is that terran is the race that "swarm" lower tier units on his opponent.
And people say to zerg:
"Go to higher techs".
Isnt it supposed to be the inverse?
Or am i wrong in my concepts?
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On August 18 2013 20:31 pylonsalad wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2013 20:14 myminerals wrote:On August 18 2013 20:06 pylonsalad wrote:
Late-game tvz is unbalanced because a 200 terran bio army will destroy a 200 zerg army every time. Widow mines ensure that the zerg cannot just engage with his entire army at once so he has to send it in small chunks. If he send too small a force, the mines won't be acivated because the bio will kill the force as it approaches so he has to measure out how big a chunk of his army to send to activate the mines before sending his main force. In the heat of the moment, as his expansions are under attack, that's really tough call to make. It's this crucial fight when both players are pretty much maxed but before zerg can afford hive units that the zerg always loses and it's because widow mines scale too good against large numbers of small units. In a standard BW game, zerg was able to successfully defend against terran attacks only when defilers were out and until that time not all zergs survived. It was one of the most entertaining parts of the game. Nobody cried aboout imbalance and "why can't I just a-move my 200 army and win?" It should be difficult, it should be extremely difficult otherwise nobody would watch it. That's not true. In BW, a large zerg army can fight the terran army with proper flanking. In SC2, the terran just needs to place 4-5 widow mines to the side and back of his army and flanks become useless.
yeah blizzard does not add lurkers coz of path but they added this fucking unit it is so fucking annoying
and now we have 8 out of 16 premier events won by terran
P.S. I am very sad that Sora has lost  I hope you can qualify for GSL!!!
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On August 18 2013 21:31 Taipoka wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2013 21:19 Fjodorov wrote:
What bothers me as a spectator is that there is zero comeback chance for the zerg once the terran gets ahead while the terran seems to pull off "amazing" comebacks. And for those talking about brood lords in game2 plz take a look on that map and the bases and tell me how SK is going to defend them with BL against the mobile army of innovation. What sounds "strange" to me aboutTvZ (Not whine since im protoss fan), is that terran is the race that "swarm" lower tier units on his opponent. And people say to zerg: "Go to higher techs". Isnt it supposed to be the inverse? Or am i wrong in my concepts?
I don't think anyone understands this either. Ask david kim or dustin browder for real answer i guess D:
Also, i hope nobody thinks that innovation pull off an comeback in his games against soulkey, as he was pretty much ahead all game long.
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On August 18 2013 21:31 Taipoka wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2013 21:19 Fjodorov wrote:
What bothers me as a spectator is that there is zero comeback chance for the zerg once the terran gets ahead while the terran seems to pull off "amazing" comebacks. And for those talking about brood lords in game2 plz take a look on that map and the bases and tell me how SK is going to defend them with BL against the mobile army of innovation. What sounds "strange" to me aboutTvZ (Not whine since im protoss fan), is that terran is the race that "swarm" lower tier units on his opponent. And people say to zerg: "Go to higher techs". Isnt it supposed to be the inverse? Or am i wrong in my concepts?
Medivacs are tier 2 (my bad). Widow mines are tier 2 if i'm not mistaken, same as mutalisks and banelings. Of course the terran tech tree is easier to access, but people tend to forget that without a lot of medivacs, marines are worth nothing.
On August 18 2013 20:47 Aunvilgod wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2013 20:25 Swisslink wrote:On August 18 2013 20:24 Aunvilgod wrote:On August 18 2013 20:22 lolfail9001 wrote:On August 18 2013 20:21 Aunvilgod wrote:On August 18 2013 20:17 Swisslink wrote:On August 18 2013 20:04 p14c wrote:On August 18 2013 19:55 Swisslink wrote:On August 18 2013 19:53 Thrillz wrote:On August 18 2013 19:50 DrPandaPhD wrote:
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Terran has like 70% winrate in Korea ZvT atm. But I guess just the better players chose Terran. E.G Sjow beating Life because Sjow is better )))))) Life is probably better at LoL than SC2 atm T.T ... and he's probably still one of the top 3 Zerg in ZvT. He's not even close. He's so bad now that even foreigners beat him. Well, which Zerg would you consider stronger than Life? Soulkey, maybe Scarlett and Jaedong and afterwards... there are no Zerg which are even "decent" in the Matchup :-) HAHAHAHAHA get out Well, to be fair if we do not take players JD and Scarlett get to play against into consideration we could consider 'em doing better than most of Korean zergs. If do not take them into consideration, yes. But we do. Otherwise we could say DeMuslim is one of the best players in the world because he has an amazing winrate on NA... That's why I said "maybe", because it's hard to judge how they'd do agains the Korean Terrans (Season finals will show). But my point is just: There aren't too many Zerg who I'd consider to be stronger than Life (In this specific matchup!) and the results lately prove that quite well, IMO. With the recent migration of lower level Koreans into WCS NA and EU it surely has become extremely hard to tell who is how good. In that specific case I really doubt Either Scarlett or JD are better than Life.
Hyun, Symbol, Soulkey, soo, Kangho, TRUE, even Songduri or DRG. All performing quite well at the moment.
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PartinG awesome ceremony as always. and Sickkk Inno too. gg's
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On August 18 2013 21:48 SsoL wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2013 21:31 Taipoka wrote:On August 18 2013 21:19 Fjodorov wrote:
What bothers me as a spectator is that there is zero comeback chance for the zerg once the terran gets ahead while the terran seems to pull off "amazing" comebacks. And for those talking about brood lords in game2 plz take a look on that map and the bases and tell me how SK is going to defend them with BL against the mobile army of innovation. What sounds "strange" to me aboutTvZ (Not whine since im protoss fan), is that terran is the race that "swarm" lower tier units on his opponent. And people say to zerg: "Go to higher techs". Isnt it supposed to be the inverse? Or am i wrong in my concepts? Medivacs are tier 3. Widow mines are tier 2 if i'm not mistaken, same as mutalisks and banelings. Of course the terran tech tree is easier to access, but people tend to forget that without a lot of medivacs, marines are worth nothing. Show nested quote +On August 18 2013 20:47 Aunvilgod wrote:On August 18 2013 20:25 Swisslink wrote:On August 18 2013 20:24 Aunvilgod wrote:On August 18 2013 20:22 lolfail9001 wrote:On August 18 2013 20:21 Aunvilgod wrote:On August 18 2013 20:17 Swisslink wrote:On August 18 2013 20:04 p14c wrote:On August 18 2013 19:55 Swisslink wrote:On August 18 2013 19:53 Thrillz wrote:
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Life is probably better at LoL than SC2 atm T.T ... and he's probably still one of the top 3 Zerg in ZvT. He's not even close. He's so bad now that even foreigners beat him. Well, which Zerg would you consider stronger than Life? Soulkey, maybe Scarlett and Jaedong and afterwards... there are no Zerg which are even "decent" in the Matchup :-) HAHAHAHAHA get out Well, to be fair if we do not take players JD and Scarlett get to play against into consideration we could consider 'em doing better than most of Korean zergs. If do not take them into consideration, yes. But we do. Otherwise we could say DeMuslim is one of the best players in the world because he has an amazing winrate on NA... That's why I said "maybe", because it's hard to judge how they'd do agains the Korean Terrans (Season finals will show). But my point is just: There aren't too many Zerg who I'd consider to be stronger than Life (In this specific matchup!) and the results lately prove that quite well, IMO. With the recent migration of lower level Koreans into WCS NA and EU it surely has become extremely hard to tell who is how good. In that specific case I really doubt Either Scarlett or JD are better than Life. Hyun, Symbol, Soulkey, soo, Kangho, TRUE, even Songduri or DRG. All performing quite well at the moment.
1st: Medivacs are not tier 3. They are tier 2. And no, starport is not tier 3. Starports with tech labs (aka banshees, ravens and BCs) are tier 3 though.
2nd: Getting into Code S is not performing well, especially considering that Soulkey for example did it on the back of his ZvZ only last season (and so did Symbol).
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On August 18 2013 21:31 Taipoka wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2013 21:19 Fjodorov wrote:
What bothers me as a spectator is that there is zero comeback chance for the zerg once the terran gets ahead while the terran seems to pull off "amazing" comebacks. And for those talking about brood lords in game2 plz take a look on that map and the bases and tell me how SK is going to defend them with BL against the mobile army of innovation. What sounds "strange" to me aboutTvZ (Not whine since im protoss fan), is that terran is the race that "swarm" lower tier units on his opponent. And people say to zerg: "Go to higher techs". Isnt it supposed to be the inverse? Or am i wrong in my concepts?
Imo in tech level, Medivac= muta ; mines= baneling ; Marines= Zerlings so they are pretty much at the same tier.
Game 1 was a swarmy play from SK with roachs lings blings runby play before muta switch which kill him. Adding few hydra or infestors could have been less risky.
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On August 18 2013 21:53 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2013 21:48 SsoL wrote:On August 18 2013 21:31 Taipoka wrote:On August 18 2013 21:19 Fjodorov wrote:
What bothers me as a spectator is that there is zero comeback chance for the zerg once the terran gets ahead while the terran seems to pull off "amazing" comebacks. And for those talking about brood lords in game2 plz take a look on that map and the bases and tell me how SK is going to defend them with BL against the mobile army of innovation. What sounds "strange" to me aboutTvZ (Not whine since im protoss fan), is that terran is the race that "swarm" lower tier units on his opponent. And people say to zerg: "Go to higher techs". Isnt it supposed to be the inverse? Or am i wrong in my concepts? Medivacs are tier 3. Widow mines are tier 2 if i'm not mistaken, same as mutalisks and banelings. Of course the terran tech tree is easier to access, but people tend to forget that without a lot of medivacs, marines are worth nothing. On August 18 2013 20:47 Aunvilgod wrote:On August 18 2013 20:25 Swisslink wrote:On August 18 2013 20:24 Aunvilgod wrote:On August 18 2013 20:22 lolfail9001 wrote:On August 18 2013 20:21 Aunvilgod wrote:On August 18 2013 20:17 Swisslink wrote:On August 18 2013 20:04 p14c wrote:On August 18 2013 19:55 Swisslink wrote:
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... and he's probably still one of the top 3 Zerg in ZvT. He's not even close. He's so bad now that even foreigners beat him. Well, which Zerg would you consider stronger than Life? Soulkey, maybe Scarlett and Jaedong and afterwards... there are no Zerg which are even "decent" in the Matchup :-) HAHAHAHAHA get out Well, to be fair if we do not take players JD and Scarlett get to play against into consideration we could consider 'em doing better than most of Korean zergs. If do not take them into consideration, yes. But we do. Otherwise we could say DeMuslim is one of the best players in the world because he has an amazing winrate on NA... That's why I said "maybe", because it's hard to judge how they'd do agains the Korean Terrans (Season finals will show). But my point is just: There aren't too many Zerg who I'd consider to be stronger than Life (In this specific matchup!) and the results lately prove that quite well, IMO. With the recent migration of lower level Koreans into WCS NA and EU it surely has become extremely hard to tell who is how good. In that specific case I really doubt Either Scarlett or JD are better than Life. Hyun, Symbol, Soulkey, soo, Kangho, TRUE, even Songduri or DRG. All performing quite well at the moment. 1st: Medivacs are not tier 3. They are tier 2. And no, starport is not tier 3. Starports with tech labs (aka banshees, ravens and BCs) are tier 3 though. 2nd: Getting into Code S is not performing well, especially considering that Soulkey for example did it on the back of his ZvZ only last season (and so did Symbol).
KangHo fits in this list with Symbol and Soulkey as well (He won against JangBi and Hurricane once each, everyone else was Zerg.). And SoO... I don't know, he held off a proxy 2-rax twice and got to Code S. No idea how strong he'd be in a normal game, tbh.
To be brutally honest, I don't see anyone beside Hyun/Soulkey in this list who I expect to reach the Season 3 finals. And Hyun has to get to premier first xD
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On August 18 2013 22:08 Swisslink wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2013 21:53 lolfail9001 wrote:On August 18 2013 21:48 SsoL wrote:On August 18 2013 21:31 Taipoka wrote:On August 18 2013 21:19 Fjodorov wrote:
What bothers me as a spectator is that there is zero comeback chance for the zerg once the terran gets ahead while the terran seems to pull off "amazing" comebacks. And for those talking about brood lords in game2 plz take a look on that map and the bases and tell me how SK is going to defend them with BL against the mobile army of innovation. What sounds "strange" to me aboutTvZ (Not whine since im protoss fan), is that terran is the race that "swarm" lower tier units on his opponent. And people say to zerg: "Go to higher techs". Isnt it supposed to be the inverse? Or am i wrong in my concepts? Medivacs are tier 3. Widow mines are tier 2 if i'm not mistaken, same as mutalisks and banelings. Of course the terran tech tree is easier to access, but people tend to forget that without a lot of medivacs, marines are worth nothing. On August 18 2013 20:47 Aunvilgod wrote:On August 18 2013 20:25 Swisslink wrote:On August 18 2013 20:24 Aunvilgod wrote:On August 18 2013 20:22 lolfail9001 wrote:On August 18 2013 20:21 Aunvilgod wrote:On August 18 2013 20:17 Swisslink wrote:On August 18 2013 20:04 p14c wrote:
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He's not even close. He's so bad now that even foreigners beat him. Well, which Zerg would you consider stronger than Life? Soulkey, maybe Scarlett and Jaedong and afterwards... there are no Zerg which are even "decent" in the Matchup :-) HAHAHAHAHA get out Well, to be fair if we do not take players JD and Scarlett get to play against into consideration we could consider 'em doing better than most of Korean zergs. If do not take them into consideration, yes. But we do. Otherwise we could say DeMuslim is one of the best players in the world because he has an amazing winrate on NA... That's why I said "maybe", because it's hard to judge how they'd do agains the Korean Terrans (Season finals will show). But my point is just: There aren't too many Zerg who I'd consider to be stronger than Life (In this specific matchup!) and the results lately prove that quite well, IMO. With the recent migration of lower level Koreans into WCS NA and EU it surely has become extremely hard to tell who is how good. In that specific case I really doubt Either Scarlett or JD are better than Life. Hyun, Symbol, Soulkey, soo, Kangho, TRUE, even Songduri or DRG. All performing quite well at the moment. 1st: Medivacs are not tier 3. They are tier 2. And no, starport is not tier 3. Starports with tech labs (aka banshees, ravens and BCs) are tier 3 though. 2nd: Getting into Code S is not performing well, especially considering that Soulkey for example did it on the back of his ZvZ only last season (and so did Symbol). KangHo fits in this list with Symbol and Soulkey as well (He won against JangBi and Hurricane once each, everyone else was Zerg.). And SoO... I don't know, he held off a proxy 2-rax twice and got to Code S. No idea how strong he'd be in a normal game, tbh.
I heard he also did worst bane bust ever (when scvs were repairing supply depots before banes were breaking 'em :D)
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On August 18 2013 22:08 Swisslink wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2013 21:53 lolfail9001 wrote:On August 18 2013 21:48 SsoL wrote:On August 18 2013 21:31 Taipoka wrote:On August 18 2013 21:19 Fjodorov wrote:
What bothers me as a spectator is that there is zero comeback chance for the zerg once the terran gets ahead while the terran seems to pull off "amazing" comebacks. And for those talking about brood lords in game2 plz take a look on that map and the bases and tell me how SK is going to defend them with BL against the mobile army of innovation. What sounds "strange" to me aboutTvZ (Not whine since im protoss fan), is that terran is the race that "swarm" lower tier units on his opponent. And people say to zerg: "Go to higher techs". Isnt it supposed to be the inverse? Or am i wrong in my concepts? Medivacs are tier 3. Widow mines are tier 2 if i'm not mistaken, same as mutalisks and banelings. Of course the terran tech tree is easier to access, but people tend to forget that without a lot of medivacs, marines are worth nothing. On August 18 2013 20:47 Aunvilgod wrote:On August 18 2013 20:25 Swisslink wrote:On August 18 2013 20:24 Aunvilgod wrote:On August 18 2013 20:22 lolfail9001 wrote:On August 18 2013 20:21 Aunvilgod wrote:On August 18 2013 20:17 Swisslink wrote:On August 18 2013 20:04 p14c wrote:
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He's not even close. He's so bad now that even foreigners beat him. Well, which Zerg would you consider stronger than Life? Soulkey, maybe Scarlett and Jaedong and afterwards... there are no Zerg which are even "decent" in the Matchup :-) HAHAHAHAHA get out Well, to be fair if we do not take players JD and Scarlett get to play against into consideration we could consider 'em doing better than most of Korean zergs. If do not take them into consideration, yes. But we do. Otherwise we could say DeMuslim is one of the best players in the world because he has an amazing winrate on NA... That's why I said "maybe", because it's hard to judge how they'd do agains the Korean Terrans (Season finals will show). But my point is just: There aren't too many Zerg who I'd consider to be stronger than Life (In this specific matchup!) and the results lately prove that quite well, IMO. With the recent migration of lower level Koreans into WCS NA and EU it surely has become extremely hard to tell who is how good. In that specific case I really doubt Either Scarlett or JD are better than Life. Hyun, Symbol, Soulkey, soo, Kangho, TRUE, even Songduri or DRG. All performing quite well at the moment. 1st: Medivacs are not tier 3. They are tier 2. And no, starport is not tier 3. Starports with tech labs (aka banshees, ravens and BCs) are tier 3 though. 2nd: Getting into Code S is not performing well, especially considering that Soulkey for example did it on the back of his ZvZ only last season (and so did Symbol). KangHo fits in this list with Symbol and Soulkey as well (He won against JangBi and Hurricane once each, everyone else was Zerg.). And SoO... I don't know, he held off a proxy 2-rax twice and got to Code S. No idea how strong he'd be in a normal game, tbh. To be brutally honest, I don't see anyone beside Hyun/Soulkey in this list who I expect to reach the Season 3 finals. And Hyun has to get to premier first xD
I will laugh so hard if we actually end up with no zergs at Blizzcon. That would be glorious imo.
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On August 18 2013 22:14 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2013 22:08 Swisslink wrote:On August 18 2013 21:53 lolfail9001 wrote:On August 18 2013 21:48 SsoL wrote:On August 18 2013 21:31 Taipoka wrote:On August 18 2013 21:19 Fjodorov wrote:
What bothers me as a spectator is that there is zero comeback chance for the zerg once the terran gets ahead while the terran seems to pull off "amazing" comebacks. And for those talking about brood lords in game2 plz take a look on that map and the bases and tell me how SK is going to defend them with BL against the mobile army of innovation. What sounds "strange" to me aboutTvZ (Not whine since im protoss fan), is that terran is the race that "swarm" lower tier units on his opponent. And people say to zerg: "Go to higher techs". Isnt it supposed to be the inverse? Or am i wrong in my concepts? Medivacs are tier 3. Widow mines are tier 2 if i'm not mistaken, same as mutalisks and banelings. Of course the terran tech tree is easier to access, but people tend to forget that without a lot of medivacs, marines are worth nothing. On August 18 2013 20:47 Aunvilgod wrote:On August 18 2013 20:25 Swisslink wrote:On August 18 2013 20:24 Aunvilgod wrote:On August 18 2013 20:22 lolfail9001 wrote:On August 18 2013 20:21 Aunvilgod wrote:On August 18 2013 20:17 Swisslink wrote:
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Well, which Zerg would you consider stronger than Life?
Soulkey, maybe Scarlett and Jaedong and afterwards... there are no Zerg which are even "decent" in the Matchup :-) HAHAHAHAHA get out Well, to be fair if we do not take players JD and Scarlett get to play against into consideration we could consider 'em doing better than most of Korean zergs. If do not take them into consideration, yes. But we do. Otherwise we could say DeMuslim is one of the best players in the world because he has an amazing winrate on NA... That's why I said "maybe", because it's hard to judge how they'd do agains the Korean Terrans (Season finals will show). But my point is just: There aren't too many Zerg who I'd consider to be stronger than Life (In this specific matchup!) and the results lately prove that quite well, IMO. With the recent migration of lower level Koreans into WCS NA and EU it surely has become extremely hard to tell who is how good. In that specific case I really doubt Either Scarlett or JD are better than Life. Hyun, Symbol, Soulkey, soo, Kangho, TRUE, even Songduri or DRG. All performing quite well at the moment. 1st: Medivacs are not tier 3. They are tier 2. And no, starport is not tier 3. Starports with tech labs (aka banshees, ravens and BCs) are tier 3 though. 2nd: Getting into Code S is not performing well, especially considering that Soulkey for example did it on the back of his ZvZ only last season (and so did Symbol). KangHo fits in this list with Symbol and Soulkey as well (He won against JangBi and Hurricane once each, everyone else was Zerg.). And SoO... I don't know, he held off a proxy 2-rax twice and got to Code S. No idea how strong he'd be in a normal game, tbh. To be brutally honest, I don't see anyone beside Hyun/Soulkey in this list who I expect to reach the Season 3 finals. And Hyun has to get to premier first xD I will laugh so hard if we actually end up with no zergs at Blizzcon. That would be glorious imo.
I think Soulkey is a lock 
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On August 19 2013 00:24 liberate71 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2013 22:14 lolfail9001 wrote:On August 18 2013 22:08 Swisslink wrote:On August 18 2013 21:53 lolfail9001 wrote:On August 18 2013 21:48 SsoL wrote:On August 18 2013 21:31 Taipoka wrote:On August 18 2013 21:19 Fjodorov wrote:
What bothers me as a spectator is that there is zero comeback chance for the zerg once the terran gets ahead while the terran seems to pull off "amazing" comebacks. And for those talking about brood lords in game2 plz take a look on that map and the bases and tell me how SK is going to defend them with BL against the mobile army of innovation. What sounds "strange" to me aboutTvZ (Not whine since im protoss fan), is that terran is the race that "swarm" lower tier units on his opponent. And people say to zerg: "Go to higher techs". Isnt it supposed to be the inverse? Or am i wrong in my concepts? Medivacs are tier 3. Widow mines are tier 2 if i'm not mistaken, same as mutalisks and banelings. Of course the terran tech tree is easier to access, but people tend to forget that without a lot of medivacs, marines are worth nothing. On August 18 2013 20:47 Aunvilgod wrote:On August 18 2013 20:25 Swisslink wrote:On August 18 2013 20:24 Aunvilgod wrote:On August 18 2013 20:22 lolfail9001 wrote:On August 18 2013 20:21 Aunvilgod wrote:
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get out Well, to be fair if we do not take players JD and Scarlett get to play against into consideration we could consider 'em doing better than most of Korean zergs. If do not take them into consideration, yes. But we do. Otherwise we could say DeMuslim is one of the best players in the world because he has an amazing winrate on NA... That's why I said "maybe", because it's hard to judge how they'd do agains the Korean Terrans (Season finals will show). But my point is just: There aren't too many Zerg who I'd consider to be stronger than Life (In this specific matchup!) and the results lately prove that quite well, IMO. With the recent migration of lower level Koreans into WCS NA and EU it surely has become extremely hard to tell who is how good. In that specific case I really doubt Either Scarlett or JD are better than Life. Hyun, Symbol, Soulkey, soo, Kangho, TRUE, even Songduri or DRG. All performing quite well at the moment. 1st: Medivacs are not tier 3. They are tier 2. And no, starport is not tier 3. Starports with tech labs (aka banshees, ravens and BCs) are tier 3 though. 2nd: Getting into Code S is not performing well, especially considering that Soulkey for example did it on the back of his ZvZ only last season (and so did Symbol). KangHo fits in this list with Symbol and Soulkey as well (He won against JangBi and Hurricane once each, everyone else was Zerg.). And SoO... I don't know, he held off a proxy 2-rax twice and got to Code S. No idea how strong he'd be in a normal game, tbh. To be brutally honest, I don't see anyone beside Hyun/Soulkey in this list who I expect to reach the Season 3 finals. And Hyun has to get to premier first xD I will laugh so hard if we actually end up with no zergs at Blizzcon. That would be glorious imo. I think Soulkey is a lock
Jaedong will probably also be a lock if EG keeps on sending him to every single tournament with WCS points.
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Canada16217 Posts
Nice to see a ceremony from PartinG :D
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