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[WCS EU] Finals Day 1 Premier Season 2 2013 - Page 82

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Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
August 10 2013 16:22 GMT
#1621
--- Nuked ---
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 10 2013 16:22 GMT
#1622
On August 11 2013 01:21 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 01:16 The_Templar wrote:
Quarterfinals
(Z)VortiX vs (P)Grubby

0-0

Map: Whirlwind

Grubby spawns in the top left
Vortix spawns in the top right

1:00
Grubby opening with gateway first without a wall.
Vortix going pool hatchery

2:00
Grubby getting a cybernetics core.
Grubby on one gas.

3:00
Grubby expanding.

4:00
Vortix scouting around with zerglings
Grubby has a mothership core and is scouting around.

5:00
Grubby getting 3 more gateways.
Vortix researching zergling speed already.
Vortix getting 10 more zerglings.

6:00 (Z)VortiX 45 vs (P)Grubby 41
Vortix moving out with zerglings.
Grubby warping in zealots and cancels the third base of vortix.

7:00 (Z)VortiX 59 vs (P)Grubby 57
Vortix holds it off and does more aggression.
Vortix getting a roach warren

8:00 (Z)VortiX vs (P)Grubby
Vortix retaking his third and still doing aggression with zerglings.
Grubby recalls his zealots.

9:00 (Z)VortiX 80 vs (P)Grubby 70
Grubby getting blink.
Vortix getting roach speed.
Grubby pauses because his screen froze.
Hydralisk den for Vortix.

10:00 (Z)VortiX 102 vs (P)Grubby 89
Grubby securing his third base.
Grubby getting a forge.
Vortix getting hydralisk speed.

11:00 (Z)VortiX 122 vs (P)Grubby 104
Grubby attacking Vortix but recalls.
Vortix moves in for an attack.

12:00 (Z)VortiX 129 vs (P)Grubby 102
Vortix attacks the third base but Grubby defends.
Vortix moves into the natural but Grubby forcefields.

13:00 (Z)VortiX 127 vs (P)Grubby 104
Vortix moves into the third and kills all of Grubby's units and the third base.
Vortix floods the natural.
Grubby GG's.
Vortix 1-0.
Moderatorshe/her
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4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 16:24:54
August 10 2013 16:23 GMT
#1623
On August 11 2013 01:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 01:11 4ZakeN87 wrote:
On August 11 2013 01:00 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:55 AgentW wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:54 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:53 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:51 Gojira621 wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:49 Noc- wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:46 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Ouch.... that hurt..

I am not sure what is worst.. Naniwa out or the cheesing no name Korean keeps wining game after game.



Please tell me how finale aka duckdeok is a no name? That no name Korean was in Code S too.


results speak for themselves

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Duckdeok/Results

One brief Code S appearance, and a top 16 at NASL season 4

He is not a no-name, people know who Finale is if they've watched GSTL and GSL.

If name is based off results like he said, wouldnt that make nearly every foreigner a no name?

I.... I guess so.

I think it exposes how ridiculous it is for people to say people are known by results alone. FFS, only one guy can win every tournament. It's not like there's one a week and it's common to be a champion.


Basically it's claiming that a "no-name" Korean = Hasn't won a GSL/ MLG/ DH, which is hilarious because those Koreans can still beat the best (let alone the average) foreigner.


Yeah that is probably the main reason for the decline of SC2 as e-sport.


I hear there's a tombstone already picked out for e-sports.


Well the other games seems to being doing okay. No of course SC2 is not going die completely but I honestly think that KESPAs movement into SC2 in a long term perspective will cause a dramatic reduction in the amount of people watching SC2.

Korea was already heavily dominating before, now they started to dominate twice as hard and that was the last thing SC2 needed. Not only do we have a situation where 95 out of the 100 best players are from one country which of course is terrible thing on it own. However to make things even worse have 90% of these players almost no means for connecting to an audience outside of Korea.

Not only do they have a introverted/none public personalities but are also close none exclusively monolingual, only communicating in a language that extremely few people outside of South Korea understand.

So yeah, it is just bad all around for SC2 as a whole.
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
August 10 2013 16:23 GMT
#1624
Hm, another P biting the dust?
Get off my lawn, young punks
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10142 Posts
August 10 2013 16:23 GMT
#1625
So many people thinking that was a great hold lol.
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
August 10 2013 16:23 GMT
#1626
On August 11 2013 01:20 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Never saw that new units lost tab before which details exactly which units were killed. I was waiting for a feature like this, and I'm so glad WCS EU is taking the initiative with this.

they implented it in the last patch.
you might go nuts if you havent seen the zoomout yet.
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
August 10 2013 16:23 GMT
#1627
Why does he not take his third while making colossi? Is it weak to this style, or has it just fallen out of favor lately?
It appears I have been chosen.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
August 10 2013 16:23 GMT
#1628
Too many units by Vortix
Moderatorlickypiddy
below66
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1761 Posts
August 10 2013 16:23 GMT
#1629
holy crap I did not expect grubby to lose so quickly after that mistake vortix did, and grubby taking down that whole first army.
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
August 10 2013 16:23 GMT
#1630
Vortix channels the spirit of Stephano. What a monster
you no take candle
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
August 10 2013 16:23 GMT
#1631
Gah, Grubby, please identify this all-inish style and play safe and kill this kid or this would be the worst SC2 day in a long time.
hundred thousand krouner
Napoleon53
Profile Joined January 2010
Denmark167 Posts
August 10 2013 16:23 GMT
#1632
Such a pesky strat.. 3 base into hydra/roach/zergling no evolution chamber!
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10112 Posts
August 10 2013 16:23 GMT
#1633
@The_Templar have you become a bot? great work
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Shikada
Profile Joined May 2012
Serbia976 Posts
August 10 2013 16:23 GMT
#1634
Rooting for Grubby really hard here, but I dunno... this game, if could have been any PvZ from two years ago. SC2 getting really stale these days.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
August 10 2013 16:23 GMT
#1635
On August 11 2013 01:23 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 01:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On August 11 2013 01:11 4ZakeN87 wrote:
On August 11 2013 01:00 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:55 AgentW wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:54 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:53 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:51 Gojira621 wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:49 Noc- wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:46 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Ouch.... that hurt..

I am not sure what is worst.. Naniwa out or the cheesing no name Korean keeps wining game after game.



Please tell me how finale aka duckdeok is a no name? That no name Korean was in Code S too.


results speak for themselves

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Duckdeok/Results

One brief Code S appearance, and a top 16 at NASL season 4

He is not a no-name, people know who Finale is if they've watched GSTL and GSL.

If name is based off results like he said, wouldnt that make nearly every foreigner a no name?

I.... I guess so.

I think it exposes how ridiculous it is for people to say people are known by results alone. FFS, only one guy can win every tournament. It's not like there's one a week and it's common to be a champion.


Basically it's claiming that a "no-name" Korean = Hasn't won a GSL/ MLG/ DH, which is hilarious because those Koreans can still beat the best (let alone the average) foreigner.


Yeah that is probably the main reason for the decline of SC2 as e-sport.


I hear there's a tombstone already picked out for e-sports.


Well the other games seems to being doing okay. No of course SC2 is not going die completely but I honestly think that KESPAs movement into SC2 is in a long term perspective will cause a dramatic reduction in the amount of people watching SC2.

Korea was already heavily dominating before, now they started to dominate twice as hard and that was the last thing SC2 needed. Not only do we have a situation were 95 out of the 100 best players are from one country which of course is terrible thing on it own. However to make things even worse have 90% of these players almost no means for connecting to an audience outside of Korea.

Not only do they have a introverted/none public personalities but are also none exclusively monolingual, only communicating in a language that extremely few people outside of South Korea understand.

So yeah, it is just bad all around for SC2 as a whole.


You realize there's a whole lot of games other than SC2, DotA2 and LoL right?

"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
August 10 2013 16:23 GMT
#1636
VortiX's style contrasts with most other Zergs I've seen recently playing against an early Protoss third. While most play for the late-game with +1 Missile Attacks early and going for a fourth with Hive, VortiX prefers the aggression, which I like to see.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
August 10 2013 16:24 GMT
#1637
Hm, I don't like that expansion from Grubby. Very hard to defend in the early midgame against roach/ling/hydra, very hard to defend in the lategame against swarmhosts.
Thrax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1755 Posts
August 10 2013 16:24 GMT
#1638
Clearly WCS EU players are afraid SC2 is dying, so they are keeping the games short so they finish before TI3 begins.
Also, sorry WCS AM.

On topic - Vortix is too strong, I don't think Grubby can win the series with standard play.
Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
August 10 2013 16:24 GMT
#1639
Observing has been a little annoying.
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
Dwayn
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany949 Posts
August 10 2013 16:24 GMT
#1640
On August 11 2013 01:23 below66 wrote:
holy crap I did not expect grubby to lose so quickly after that mistake vortix did, and grubby taking down that whole first army.

I think vortix traded very cost efficent there...
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