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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 16:15:11
August 10 2013 16:14 GMT
#1581
On August 11 2013 01:14 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 01:11 4ZakeN87 wrote:
On August 11 2013 01:00 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:55 AgentW wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:54 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:53 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:51 Gojira621 wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:49 Noc- wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:46 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Ouch.... that hurt..

I am not sure what is worst.. Naniwa out or the cheesing no name Korean keeps wining game after game.



Please tell me how finale aka duckdeok is a no name? That no name Korean was in Code S too.


results speak for themselves

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Duckdeok/Results

One brief Code S appearance, and a top 16 at NASL season 4

He is not a no-name, people know who Finale is if they've watched GSTL and GSL.

If name is based off results like he said, wouldnt that make nearly every foreigner a no name?

I.... I guess so.

I think it exposes how ridiculous it is for people to say people are known by results alone. FFS, only one guy can win every tournament. It's not like there's one a week and it's common to be a champion.


Basically it's claiming that a "no-name" Korean = Hasn't won a GSL/ MLG/ DH, which is hilarious because those Koreans can still beat the best (let alone the average) foreigner.


Yeah that is probably the main reason for the decline of SC2 as e-sport.


DAT decline. Only 50k viewers on twitch right now. Better get back to NASL times with 15k viewers, because you know. 15>50. A lot!

UNLESS WE HAVE TI3 AND LCS NUMBERS WE'RE DEAD END OF.
KAS BETTER HAVE STREAM VIEWERS EQUAL TO TSM OR WE'RE EVEN MORE DEAD.
Glorious SEA doto
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
August 10 2013 16:15 GMT
#1582
On August 11 2013 01:14 Fyzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 01:13 Dingodile wrote:
How much games after Grubby vs Vortix today?

0


4. WCS America Ro8.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
jonich0n
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1982 Posts
August 10 2013 16:15 GMT
#1583
hey you guys haven't you heard SC2 is dying
(>'.')>
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 16:16:11
August 10 2013 16:15 GMT
#1584
The Spanish Inquisition is investigating!

PMD ‏@mouzLucifroN 2m

Are Grubby and VortiX using diferent headsets?? #WCS


José Luis M.D. ‏@Ryo_JLMD 2m

No insonorization for Grubby? Why different headsets? #WCS @ESL_Shawn


The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 10 2013 16:16 GMT
#1585
Quarterfinals
(Z)VortiX vs (P)Grubby

0-0

Map: Whirlwind

Grubby spawns in the top left
Vortix spawns in the top right

1:00
Grubby opening with gateway first without a wall.
Vortix going pool hatchery

2:00
Grubby getting a cybernetics core.
Grubby on one gas.

3:00
Grubby expanding.

4:00
Vortix scouting around with zerglings
Grubby has a mothership core and is scouting around.

5:00
Grubby getting 3 more gateways.
Vortix researching zergling speed already.
Vortix getting 10 more zerglings.
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ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
August 10 2013 16:16 GMT
#1586
On August 11 2013 01:12 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 01:06 Ammanas wrote:
On August 11 2013 01:03 Lysanias wrote:
On August 11 2013 01:01 Ammanas wrote:
It's funny how WCS EU with the worst player pool, worst quality of actual games and the worst production (although that's because OGN and NASL are just so good, ESL is doing very good job) out of all the WCS is consistently getting the most viewers


No it's funny how silly your opinion is, now that's really poor quality trolling


Why would I be trolling lol? That is my actual opinion based on watching every single game of Ro16 onwards of all the WCS tournaments.


So the worst players and the worst quality of games and productions get's the most views ... How does that make sense to you ?

Production is arguable, but player quality is indisputable..
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
August 10 2013 16:16 GMT
#1587
On August 11 2013 01:12 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 01:06 Ammanas wrote:
On August 11 2013 01:03 Lysanias wrote:
On August 11 2013 01:01 Ammanas wrote:
It's funny how WCS EU with the worst player pool, worst quality of actual games and the worst production (although that's because OGN and NASL are just so good, ESL is doing very good job) out of all the WCS is consistently getting the most viewers


No it's funny how silly your opinion is, now that's really poor quality trolling


Why would I be trolling lol? That is my actual opinion based on watching every single game of Ro16 onwards of all the WCS tournaments.


So the worst players and the worst quality of games and productions get's the most views ... How does that make sense to you ?


Somebody explained it with timezones, which I tend to agree to.
Also, I think the 'WCS AM is bad' circlejerk has something to do with it.
And in the end, isn't it so? Player pool and quality of games themselves is, I think, unquestionable. The production is subjective I guess, but I just prefer the look of NASL to ESL right now (OGN and GOM are on completely another level).
The casters may be also a big reason, I agree WCS EU has probably upper hand with Apollo and Tod, although I personally prefer Rotti with Bitter.
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 16:18:18
August 10 2013 16:16 GMT
#1588
On August 11 2013 01:11 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 01:01 Ammanas wrote:
It's funny how WCS EU with the worst player pool, worst quality of actual games and the worst production (although that's because OGN and NASL are just so good, ESL is doing very good job) out of all the WCS is consistently getting the most viewers

WCS EU has the best production for me. NASL and GSL has somehow too much quality, it makes the atmosphere and "time elapsed" somehow worse.

i have to agree. they might not have the best production but how they handle it makes it best atmosphere/ viewing experience.
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
ReDeYe
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United Kingdom160 Posts
August 10 2013 16:16 GMT
#1589
On August 10 2013 23:46 scott31337 wrote:
Redeye, You need to speak with someone who is ESL differently. Lots of big words, or use a translator. MC speaks very good English for being ESL, Unsure why you ask him otherwise.

Anyway, GG MC GO BOSS TOSS

What the actual...
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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
August 10 2013 16:16 GMT
#1590
On August 11 2013 01:15 StarVe wrote:
The Spanish Inquisition is investigating!

Show nested quote +
PMD ‏@mouzLucifroN 2m

Are Grubby and VortiX using diferent headsets?? #WCS


Show nested quote +
José Luis M.D. ‏@Ryo_JLMD 2m

No insonorization for Grubby? Why different headsets? #WCS @ESL_Shawn



+ Show Spoiler +
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
August 10 2013 16:17 GMT
#1591
On August 11 2013 01:14 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 01:13 Destructicon wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:50 The_Templar wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:49 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:48 lolfail9001 wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:
List of heads taken by finale: Dimaga, Stephano, Lucifron, Naniwa

So finale killed all the fan favorites? Welp, i feel bad for Grubby now.


eeexcellent :D

yeah we really need a (Z)Sniper for each race.
terran sniper should be alive unless we can come up with a better one


Terran sniper was Heart from coL and now on Axiom, he was really hated for being Puma 2.0 relying on super cheesy strats and he also knocked out HuK out of several MLG arenas and I think he also killed some fan favorites in the GSL.


I thought Terran Sniper was actually PuMa himself during the 1/1/1 days. XD


Oh right, I forgot how hated PuMa was back in the day.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
August 10 2013 16:17 GMT
#1592
On August 11 2013 01:13 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 01:11 Sissors wrote:
On August 11 2013 01:08 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On August 11 2013 01:07 lichter wrote:
Whoa Vortix is short

Or Grubby is just tall. My estimate is VortiX is about 5'7-5'8 while Grubby is about 6'1-6'2.

SI units man, SI units.


What, you don't measure stuff with your feet?



Auber.. obershe.. oiebershi... fuck it we'll call it an eggplant
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
August 10 2013 16:17 GMT
#1593
On August 11 2013 01:16 ReDeYe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 23:46 scott31337 wrote:
Redeye, You need to speak with someone who is ESL differently. Lots of big words, or use a translator. MC speaks very good English for being ESL, Unsure why you ask him otherwise.

Anyway, GG MC GO BOSS TOSS

What the actual...


ReDeYe <3 <3 <3
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 16:20:08
August 10 2013 16:17 GMT
#1594
On August 11 2013 01:11 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 01:00 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:55 AgentW wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:54 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:53 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:51 Gojira621 wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:49 Noc- wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:46 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Ouch.... that hurt..

I am not sure what is worst.. Naniwa out or the cheesing no name Korean keeps wining game after game.



Please tell me how finale aka duckdeok is a no name? That no name Korean was in Code S too.


results speak for themselves

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Duckdeok/Results

One brief Code S appearance, and a top 16 at NASL season 4

He is not a no-name, people know who Finale is if they've watched GSTL and GSL.

If name is based off results like he said, wouldnt that make nearly every foreigner a no name?

I.... I guess so.

I think it exposes how ridiculous it is for people to say people are known by results alone. FFS, only one guy can win every tournament. It's not like there's one a week and it's common to be a champion.


Basically it's claiming that a "no-name" Korean = Hasn't won a GSL/ MLG/ DH, which is hilarious because those Koreans can still beat the best (let alone the average) foreigner.


Yeah that is probably the main reason for the decline of SC2 as e-sport.


Actually it's a sign of the growth of SC2. If you watch sports like badminton or pingpong or archery, the large majority doesn't care that *asians* are *unbeatable* in it, because they just want to see the best possible games. You need to have a large enough community for such concerns to pop.

(well tbh I know it for badminton and I'm just assuming it's the same for pingpong and archery)
No will to live, no wish to die
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
August 10 2013 16:17 GMT
#1595
--- Nuked ---
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
August 10 2013 16:17 GMT
#1596
On August 11 2013 01:16 ReDeYe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 23:46 scott31337 wrote:
Redeye, You need to speak with someone who is ESL differently. Lots of big words, or use a translator. MC speaks very good English for being ESL, Unsure why you ask him otherwise.

Anyway, GG MC GO BOSS TOSS

What the actual...

I think some of the problem is that ESL is both the company and English Second Language. Took me a couple of reads to get it.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
August 10 2013 16:18 GMT
#1597
He delayed the third for so long, I'd say that's worth the three chrono's ;p.
It appears I have been chosen.
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 16:19:41
August 10 2013 16:18 GMT
#1598
--- Nuked ---
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 10 2013 16:18 GMT
#1599
Huh, just came home, not what I expected. Well at least Hasu and Nani took a map :D, gg wp Korea!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Thrax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1755 Posts
August 10 2013 16:19 GMT
#1600
On August 11 2013 01:16 ReDeYe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 23:46 scott31337 wrote:
Redeye, You need to speak with someone who is ESL differently. Lots of big words, or use a translator. MC speaks very good English for being ESL, Unsure why you ask him otherwise.

Anyway, GG MC GO BOSS TOSS

What the actual...

ESL as in "English as a Second Language" I think it was fine.
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