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Austria24422 Posts
On August 11 2013 01:06 4ZakeN87 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2013 01:03 DarkLordOlli wrote:On August 11 2013 01:01 4ZakeN87 wrote:On August 11 2013 00:52 DarkLordOlli wrote:On August 11 2013 00:51 Gojira621 wrote:On August 11 2013 00:49 Noc- wrote:On August 11 2013 00:46 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Ouch.... that hurt..
I am not sure what is worst.. Naniwa out or the cheesing no name Korean keeps wining game after game.
Please tell me how finale aka duckdeok is a no name? That no name Korean was in Code S too. results speak for themselves http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Duckdeok/ResultsOne brief Code S appearance, and a top 16 at NASL season 4 He lost to HerO. In the winter. Give the guy a break. (HerO won NASL) When I see him play a game that passes over the 15 minute mark I might consider giving him a chance but that wont happen so. No this guy is just annoying in all way you can be. He cheese in every game, has the most retarded nick in e-sport history, is in general one out 100+ Korean SC2 players I can switch around in interviews cause they all talk/behave the same and with his 100% cheese style he managed to knock out every fan favorite player. Oh so you're a macro elitist and mad because your favorites got knocked out I agree with the ID though, MVPfinale was way cooler I think adäjäiojasdjk would be way cooler
Yeah, imagine having to cast someone with that ID
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Vortix under pressure to show too much of strategies vs Grubby only to face Duckdeok after.
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On August 11 2013 01:05 NightOfTheDead wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2013 01:01 Adreme wrote:On August 11 2013 01:00 NightOfTheDead wrote:On August 11 2013 00:57 BronzeKnee wrote:On August 11 2013 00:50 Nebuchad wrote:On August 11 2013 00:48 BronzeKnee wrote:
Now if only there was one more Korean so we could have an all Korean European WCS Final Four!
Such a good idea not to lock the regions, so we could just have Korean, Korean East and Korea West WCS. Koreans are imbalanced, let's remove them from the game. ... God Forbid I watch a tournament in Europe that will send European representatives to the WCS finals that actually has European players huh? Is it better them being crushed in WCS grand finals even more rather than Europe finals, and not give spot for a bit more capable players that defeated them already? Its fine watching them get stomped in finals as a reminder of who the best country at starcraft is. It is a little sad that they don't make it that far to get stomped though. Not sure about that. One sided stomp isn't that good for grand finals, rather than some more upset potential all these Koreans in EU and US can bring to the table.
Personally I wish it were a 32 player finals but that's a different story for somewhat related reasons. However, with these events as they are all they are going to create is a finals with no foreigners at all in it thus taking away the selling point that WCS EU and AM have going for them with the foreigner vs korea mindset. Quite frankly its better to have drama at grand finals and season finals then in regular season. You could use regular season to build them up and then use season and grand finals to see if they can hold out.
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On August 11 2013 01:07 lichter wrote:
Whoa Vortix is short
Or Grubby is just tall. My estimate is VortiX is about 5'7-5'8 while Grubby is about 6'1-6'2.
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On August 11 2013 01:07 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2013 01:06 4ZakeN87 wrote:On August 11 2013 01:03 DarkLordOlli wrote:On August 11 2013 01:01 4ZakeN87 wrote:On August 11 2013 00:52 DarkLordOlli wrote:On August 11 2013 00:51 Gojira621 wrote:On August 11 2013 00:49 Noc- wrote:On August 11 2013 00:46 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Ouch.... that hurt..
I am not sure what is worst.. Naniwa out or the cheesing no name Korean keeps wining game after game.
Please tell me how finale aka duckdeok is a no name? That no name Korean was in Code S too. results speak for themselves http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Duckdeok/ResultsOne brief Code S appearance, and a top 16 at NASL season 4 He lost to HerO. In the winter. Give the guy a break. (HerO won NASL) When I see him play a game that passes over the 15 minute mark I might consider giving him a chance but that wont happen so. No this guy is just annoying in all way you can be. He cheese in every game, has the most retarded nick in e-sport history, is in general one out 100+ Korean SC2 players I can switch around in interviews cause they all talk/behave the same and with his 100% cheese style he managed to knock out every fan favorite player. Oh so you're a macro elitist and mad because your favorites got knocked out I agree with the ID though, MVPfinale was way cooler I think adäjäiojasdjk would be way cooler Yeah, imagine having to cast someone with that ID
It's actually surprisingly articulate for a keyboard mash
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On August 11 2013 00:59 NovaMB wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2013 00:58 AgentW wrote:On August 11 2013 00:58 theBALLS wrote:
Out of curiosity-- Redeye is not a young fella. What was he doing in his younger years? He used to cast Counterstrike. He started of with Quake and UT I believe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Chaloner
I believe you are right 
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Canada16217 Posts
On August 11 2013 01:06 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2013 01:02 Gojira621 wrote:On August 11 2013 00:58 Zealously wrote:On August 11 2013 00:50 Cattlecruiser wrote:On August 11 2013 00:47 Zealously wrote:On August 11 2013 00:45 Cattlecruiser wrote:On August 11 2013 00:43 Zealously wrote:On August 11 2013 00:42 Cattlecruiser wrote:On August 11 2013 00:39 scypio wrote:On August 11 2013 00:37 Cattlecruiser wrote:
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Personality? Is it that important to you that the player does some stupid ceremony or BMs the opponent?
... Lets play Tim Tebow over Tom Brady because Tim is a "likeable" guy and a god fearing Christian...
Western culture would rather have a fun time getting negative results than getting positive results through hard work and dedication I guess. SC2 is entertainment. In entertainment personality matters. Deal with it. Is it entertainment? I thought it was a sport... lol Sport is entertainment, which is what most sports survive on (on a professional level) I guess that is why so many sports franchises base their personnel decision on personality, not talent and skill. LMFAO I'm unsure if you're being intentionally thick or don't understand this, but: what happens if people stop being entertained by soccer? What happens to the sport as a whole? On a professional level, that is. I'm thick? People are entertained by the level of skill and talent on the professional level in soccer or football, goofy things said or done on the field are just distractions from the main entertainment. (which is the match itself) Okay, I'll spell it out for you. If people aren't entertained by -insert thing-, they stop watching. It so happens that skill and good play is a big part in soccer, just as it is in Starcraft, but soccer storylines and narratives established over an in comparison extremely large period of time. Starcraft does not yet have the readily available abundance of storylines, which is why many people obsess over "personality"; they want a way to connect to foreign players or players they don't know. If you think the viewer count would be the same if we didn't know who was playing, you're very mistaken. If you think "level of play" is the only thing that matters in sports as a whole, you're very mistaken. Why do you think people cheer for their own countries and go out of their way to watch objectively inferior teams play when for example the World Cup is on? Why do people cheer for -insert small British team- instead of Manchester United? Because those are the teams they support, the teams they care about. Skill plays a role, but it's not the sole deciding factor in who watches what. I think it's really sad when people complain about Koreans supposedly "lacking personality" because they all have (except a very select few such as Innovation) personality and interesting storylines, but they aren't as accessible. Why are more foreigners watching WCS EU than watched WCS KR earlier today? Slightly uncomfortable answers, I know, and it's kind of sad to think about, but that's the way it is. uhh I agreed with you up until the last point. One BIG reason that WCS EU has more viewers than WCS KR (is this actually fact?) is because WCS KR finals took place at like 5am US eastern and like 2am US west. WCS EU started in the morning in america so more people are going to wake up and watch. WCS EU has more viewers than WCS KR among foreigners. Korean TV numbers are inaccessible and the comparison would be unfair. Either way, WCS KR aired around noon in EU on a Saturday, so the time shouldn't have been that much of an issue.
well we have no idea about gomtv.net numbers either
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On August 11 2013 01:06 Fusilero wrote:On a quick and hilarious note seeing as I'm briefly on the subject of mid 2000 FPS games allow me to present the greatest thing ever, a Chinese quake player got more money than iloveoov, july, tod and naniwa. How? He beat fatality once on the great wall of China  http://www.esportsearnings.com/tournaments/2240/acom_fatal1ty_shootout
That sounds like something Fatality would have done lol. I'm also not surprised there was some random Chinese guy who came out of no where to beat him.
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I was going to be really pissed if Boxer wasn't first.
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I was eating something and now Nani is dead. He was cheesed?
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On August 11 2013 01:09 Tiaraju9 wrote:
I was eating something and now Nani is dead. He was cheesed?
He played too risky and it didn't pay off.
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fancy fan gives you moarrrr power! MOARRR!
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On August 11 2013 01:09 Weavel wrote:
That fan is so cute
Agreed. Is there a backstory to it?
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On August 11 2013 01:07 AgentW wrote:You didn't even get Shellshocked. You have much to learn, padawan. Please don't start the Grubby vs. Moon stuff. It's been rehashed so many times.
I didn't even want to answer but I saw the guy get no answer so I looked it up ;(.
And then I get ninjad G_G.
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United States97277 Posts
On August 11 2013 01:07 lichter wrote:
Whoa Vortix is short
Havent you seen the spanish national soccer team compared to the rest of europe? I just assume the average height in spain is a few inches shorter than everywhere else in the region
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On August 11 2013 01:08 AgentW wrote:That sounds like something Fatality would have done lol. I'm also not surprised there was some random Chinese guy who came out of no where to beat him.
Yeah Doom 3 wasn't exactly big in the West. Not sure what it was like in China though but yeah. xD
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On August 11 2013 01:01 Ammanas wrote:It's funny how WCS EU with the worst player pool, worst quality of actual games and the worst production (although that's because OGN and NASL are just so good, ESL is doing very good job) out of all the WCS is consistently getting the most viewers
WCS EU has the best production for me. NASL and GSL has somehow too much quality, it makes the atmosphere and "time elapsed" somehow worse.
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On August 11 2013 01:00 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2013 00:55 AgentW wrote:On August 11 2013 00:54 Shellshock1122 wrote:On August 11 2013 00:53 NovemberstOrm wrote:On August 11 2013 00:51 Gojira621 wrote:On August 11 2013 00:49 Noc- wrote:On August 11 2013 00:46 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Ouch.... that hurt..
I am not sure what is worst.. Naniwa out or the cheesing no name Korean keeps wining game after game.
Please tell me how finale aka duckdeok is a no name? That no name Korean was in Code S too. results speak for themselves http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Duckdeok/ResultsOne brief Code S appearance, and a top 16 at NASL season 4 He is not a no-name, people know who Finale is if they've watched GSTL and GSL. If name is based off results like he said, wouldnt that make nearly every foreigner a no name? I.... I guess so. I think it exposes how ridiculous it is for people to say people are known by results alone. FFS, only one guy can win every tournament. It's not like there's one a week and it's common to be a champion. Basically it's claiming that a "no-name" Korean = Hasn't won a GSL/ MLG/ DH, which is hilarious because those Koreans can still beat the best (let alone the average) foreigner.
Yeah that is probably the main reason for the decline of SC2 as e-sport.
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