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[WCS EU] Finals Day 1 Premier Season 2 2013 - Page 81

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ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
August 10 2013 16:19 GMT
#1601
typical grubby pause! -__-
Holdenintherye
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada1441 Posts
August 10 2013 16:19 GMT
#1602
Darn Naniwa
Cattlecruiser
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States340 Posts
August 10 2013 16:19 GMT
#1603
On August 11 2013 00:58 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 00:50 Cattlecruiser wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:47 Zealously wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:45 Cattlecruiser wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:43 Zealously wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:42 Cattlecruiser wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:39 scypio wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:37 Cattlecruiser wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:31 Zealously wrote:
On August 11 2013 00:30 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
[quote]
There should be a strict personality committee that checks each Korean for their personality before they join WCS EU. Board members on the committee would be WhiteRa, Fuzer and Bling.


Should also demand proper champagne-opening skills and alcohol tolerance to make sure there isn't a PERSONALITY OVERLOAD similar to a certain frenchman

Personality? Is it that important to you that the player does some stupid ceremony or BMs the opponent?

... Lets play Tim Tebow over Tom Brady because Tim is a "likeable" guy and a god fearing Christian...
Western culture would rather have a fun time getting negative results than getting positive results through hard work and dedication I guess.


SC2 is entertainment. In entertainment personality matters. Deal with it.

Is it entertainment? I thought it was a sport... lol


Sport is entertainment, which is what most sports survive on (on a professional level)

I guess that is why so many sports franchises base their personnel decision on personality, not talent and skill. LMFAO


I'm unsure if you're being intentionally thick or don't understand this, but: what happens if people stop being entertained by soccer? What happens to the sport as a whole? On a professional level, that is.


I'm thick? People are entertained by the level of skill and talent on the professional level in soccer or football, goofy things said or done on the field are just distractions from the main entertainment. (which is the match itself)


Okay, I'll spell it out for you. If people aren't entertained by -insert thing-, they stop watching. It so happens that skill and good play is a big part in soccer, just as it is in Starcraft, but soccer storylines and narratives established over an in comparison extremely large period of time. Starcraft does not yet have the readily available abundance of storylines, which is why many people obsess over "personality"; they want a way to connect to foreign players or players they don't know. If you think the viewer count would be the same if we didn't know who was playing, you're very mistaken. If you think "level of play" is the only thing that matters in sports as a whole, you're very mistaken.

Why do you think people cheer for their own countries and go out of their way to watch objectively inferior teams play when for example the World Cup is on? Why do people cheer for -insert small British team- instead of Manchester United? Because those are the teams they support, the teams they care about. Skill plays a role, but it's not the sole deciding factor in who watches what.

I think it's really sad when people complain about Koreans supposedly "lacking personality" because they all have (except a very select few such as Innovation) personality and interesting storylines, but they aren't as accessible. Why are more foreigners watching WCS EU than watched WCS KR earlier today? Slightly uncomfortable answers, I know, and it's kind of sad to think about, but that's the way it is.

I actually agree with many things you wrote, like Starcraft not being the same as soccer and Koreans having personalities that aren't as accessible for foreign audience to appreciate.

I don't know much about soccer, but as an example people don't watch minor league games while a major league game is on (baseball). D league in NBA is almost never watched, neither are many OHL teams that feed into the NHL. I don't think it is the ONLY factor in viewership, but personality isn't a larger role than skill/talent.

Maybe the focus on personality is positive for the short run, but it maybe the reason why so many from outside of the eSports community find it as a child's play rather than a real sport.
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
August 10 2013 16:19 GMT
#1604
On August 11 2013 01:15 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
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On August 11 2013 01:14 Fyzar wrote:
On August 11 2013 01:13 Dingodile wrote:
How much games after Grubby vs Vortix today?

0


4. WCS America Ro8.

You got me there ;p. Didn't know it started at 22:00 instead of midnight .
It appears I have been chosen.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
August 10 2013 16:19 GMT
#1605
On August 11 2013 01:18 Sated wrote:
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On August 11 2013 01:16 ReDeYe wrote:
On August 10 2013 23:46 scott31337 wrote:
Redeye, You need to speak with someone who is ESL differently. Lots of big words, or use a translator. MC speaks very good English for being ESL, Unsure why you ask him otherwise.

Anyway, GG MC GO BOSS TOSS

What the actual...

No one knows man, no one knows...

I think the guy was actually making a good point: don't use confusing language for someone who doesn't speak English as their first language without a translator. I have no idea if Redeye was using poor wording (I doubt it), but it's a decent thought.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
August 10 2013 16:20 GMT
#1606
Never saw that new units lost tab before which details exactly which units were killed. I was waiting for a feature like this, and I'm so glad WCS EU is taking the initiative with this.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
wozzot
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1227 Posts
August 10 2013 16:20 GMT
#1607
On August 11 2013 01:18 Musicus wrote:
Huh, just came home, not what I expected. Well at least Hasu and Nani took a map :D, gg wp Korea!

Don't forget to sing a dirge for e-sports because SC2 is dying
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Bahajinbo
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany488 Posts
August 10 2013 16:20 GMT
#1608
Damn, I have lags like crazy...
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 10 2013 16:20 GMT
#1609
On August 11 2013 01:11 Shellshock1122 wrote:
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On August 11 2013 01:07 lichter wrote:
Whoa Vortix is short

Havent you seen the spanish national soccer team compared to the rest of europe? I just assume the average height in spain is a few inches shorter than everywhere else in the region

Wikipedia says that thy're about 5'10" but everywhere else in that area is around 6'X".
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SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
August 10 2013 16:21 GMT
#1610
On August 11 2013 01:20 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Never saw that new units lost tab before which details exactly which units were killed. I was waiting for a feature like this, and I'm so glad WCS EU is taking the initiative with this.


new feature from last patch as far as i know
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
August 10 2013 16:21 GMT
#1611
--- Nuked ---
below66
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1761 Posts
August 10 2013 16:21 GMT
#1612
what a win for grubby
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 10 2013 16:21 GMT
#1613
On August 11 2013 01:16 The_Templar wrote:
Quarterfinals
(Z)VortiX vs (P)Grubby

0-0

Map: Whirlwind

Grubby spawns in the top left
Vortix spawns in the top right

1:00
Grubby opening with gateway first without a wall.
Vortix going pool hatchery

2:00
Grubby getting a cybernetics core.
Grubby on one gas.

3:00
Grubby expanding.

4:00
Vortix scouting around with zerglings
Grubby has a mothership core and is scouting around.

5:00
Grubby getting 3 more gateways.
Vortix researching zergling speed already.
Vortix getting 10 more zerglings.

6:00 (Z)VortiX 45 vs (P)Grubby 41
Vortix moving out with zerglings.
Grubby warping in zealots and cancels the third base of vortix.

7:00 (Z)VortiX 59 vs (P)Grubby 57
Vortix holds it off and does more aggression.
Vortix getting a roach warren

8:00 (Z)VortiX vs (P)Grubby
Vortix retaking his third and still doing aggression with zerglings.
Grubby recalls his zealots.

9:00 (Z)VortiX 80 vs (P)Grubby 70
Grubby getting blink.
Vortix getting roach speed.
Grubby pauses because his screen froze.
Hydralisk den for Vortix.

10:00 (Z)VortiX 102 vs (P)Grubby 89
Grubby securing his third base.
Grubby getting a forge.
Vortix getting hydralisk speed.

11:00 (Z)VortiX 122 vs (P)Grubby 104
Grubby attacking Vortix but recalls.
Vortix moves in for an attack.
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
August 10 2013 16:21 GMT
#1614
that was amazing for Grubby
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jonich0n
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1982 Posts
August 10 2013 16:21 GMT
#1615
crazy push and hold

that is one aggressive zerg
(>'.')>
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
August 10 2013 16:21 GMT
#1616
Grubby held magnificently, but VortiX engaged badly there despite having a better army really. Could have targeted down the Nexus at least.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
jonich0n
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1982 Posts
August 10 2013 16:22 GMT
#1617
dat swarm.
(>'.')>
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46481 Posts
August 10 2013 16:22 GMT
#1618
Yeah Vortix! That's one!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Denar
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1633 Posts
August 10 2013 16:22 GMT
#1619
Poll: Recommend VortiX vs Grubby game 1 ?

No (6)
 
43%

Yes (5)
 
36%

If you have time (3)
 
21%

14 total votes

Your vote: Recommend VortiX vs Grubby game 1 ?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

KaneZ
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany202 Posts
August 10 2013 16:22 GMT
#1620
VORTIX!!!!!!!! <3

For the swarm!!!!!
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