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NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
August 08 2013 19:46 GMT
#581
On August 09 2013 04:44 Shellshock1122 wrote:
pretty slow thread today but it's not like there's significantly less viewers. Games just not as exciting today with the PvP/PvZs?


Cant balance whine in PvP
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 08 2013 19:47 GMT
#582
On August 09 2013 04:44 Shellshock1122 wrote:
pretty slow thread today but it's not like there's significantly less viewers. Games just not as exciting today with the PvP/PvZs?

They're ok. MC vs Titan is good stuff now though.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Rassy
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2308 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 19:48:49
August 08 2013 19:47 GMT
#583
Titan should only get more ahead as he has more probes mining all the time.
Oh nvm, its only 1-2 probes.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 08 2013 19:47 GMT
#584
Oh man... watch as MC goes fast 3rd.
kiss kiss fall in love
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 08 2013 19:48 GMT
#585
On August 09 2013 04:45 The_Templar wrote:
Final Match Game 2

(P)TitaN vs (P)MC
1-0
Map: Newkirk Precinct


Titan spawns in the bottom right
MC spawns in the bottom left

1:00
Both players opening gateway before two gas.

2:00
Nothing interesting happening.

3:00
Titan getting a faster second gateway after a cybernetics core.
MC getting a later mothership core and a sentry.

4:00
Both players going up to three gateways.

5:00
Titan proxying a pylon.
I enjoy a lovely slide show.

6:00 (P)TitaN 33 (P)MC 34
Titan poking but MC stops it and kills the mothership core and a stalker.
MC very nearly loses his mothership core.

7:00 (P)TitaN . (P)MC
MC traps a stalker and kills it.
Titan snipes a sentry and moves into the natural while finishing his expansion.
Titan retreats.

8:00 (P)TitaN 48 (P)MC 49
Titan getting a robotics facility and a forge.
MC building an immortal.
Titan's natural finishes faster than MC's.

9:00 (P)TitaN 63 (P)MC 61
Titan has more probes than MC.
Both players building immortals.

10:00 (P)TitaN 73 (P)MC 68
Titan getting +1 ground attack.
MC building a forge.
I'm still watching the slide show provided by my internet.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 08 2013 19:48 GMT
#586
And Titan's got another 3 gateways going up.
kiss kiss fall in love
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
August 08 2013 19:48 GMT
#587
Someone who is smarter than me, why is it that the meta has favoured Archon/Immortal based armies in PvP rather than going for the usual Colossus-based stuff?
MosART
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1899 Posts
August 08 2013 19:49 GMT
#588
Can't believe MC doesn't scout north of him for proxy pylons, after knowing that Titans stalkers came from there.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 19:51:17
August 08 2013 19:49 GMT
#589
On August 09 2013 04:48 Heartland wrote:
Someone who is smarter than me, why is it that the meta has favoured Archon/Immortal based armies in PvP rather than going for the usual Colossus-based stuff?

I might be wrong but I believe it's because many people get stargates in PvP now and colossi get shit on by tempests

+ stuff BigFan said too
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 08 2013 19:49 GMT
#590
On August 09 2013 04:48 Heartland wrote:
Someone who is smarter than me, why is it that the meta has favoured Archon/Immortal based armies in PvP rather than going for the usual Colossus-based stuff?

Archons can break ffs and Immortals eat stalkers and colossi. With zealots for shields, I think it's a strong combo. My take on it at least.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 08 2013 19:50 GMT
#591
On August 09 2013 04:48 Heartland wrote:
Someone who is smarter than me, why is it that the meta has favoured Archon/Immortal based armies in PvP rather than going for the usual Colossus-based stuff?

My guess tells me that Colossus-based stuff loses to Immortals since Archon can just crush the FFs and just march onto victory.
It looks like Archons can destroy positional advantage, allowing your Immortals and Zealots to just crush through.
kiss kiss fall in love
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 08 2013 19:51 GMT
#592
Well based on the production tab my stream's been frozen on forever, Titan seems ahead
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 08 2013 19:52 GMT
#593
On August 09 2013 04:48 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 04:45 The_Templar wrote:
Final Match Game 2

(P)TitaN vs (P)MC
1-0
Map: Newkirk Precinct


Titan spawns in the bottom right
MC spawns in the bottom left

1:00
Both players opening gateway before two gas.

2:00
Nothing interesting happening.

3:00
Titan getting a faster second gateway after a cybernetics core.
MC getting a later mothership core and a sentry.

4:00
Both players going up to three gateways.

5:00
Titan proxying a pylon.
I enjoy a lovely slide show.

6:00 (P)TitaN 33 (P)MC 34
Titan poking but MC stops it and kills the mothership core and a stalker.
MC very nearly loses his mothership core.

7:00 (P)TitaN . (P)MC
MC traps a stalker and kills it.
Titan snipes a sentry and moves into the natural while finishing his expansion.
Titan retreats.

8:00 (P)TitaN 48 (P)MC 49
Titan getting a robotics facility and a forge.
MC building an immortal.
Titan's natural finishes faster than MC's.

9:00 (P)TitaN 63 (P)MC 61
Titan has more probes than MC.
Both players building immortals.

10:00 (P)TitaN 73 (P)MC 68
Titan getting +1 ground attack.
MC building a forge.
I'm still watching the slide show provided by my internet.

11:00 (P)TitaN 85 (P)MC 80
Titan has a twilight council and is getting charge and +2.
Titan getting 3 more gateways.
MC is researching blink and getting a Templar archives.

12:00 (P)TitaN 92 (P)MC 94
MC building more gateways.
MC has more immortals in the same composition.

13:00 (P)TitaN 110 (P)MC 106
Both players morphing archons and moving out while taking his third base.

14:00 (P)TitaN 124 (P)MC 120
Titan retreats his forces while sending a warp prism
Both players warping units with warp prisms in the same place.

15:00 (P)TitaN 151 (P)MC 140
1v1 zealot fight where the more upgraded zealot wins
Titan moving towards the newly constructed third of MC.
Small engagement while zealots are harassing in the main base of MC.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
August 08 2013 19:53 GMT
#594
The suggestion that Archon/Immo wins over Colossus seems dubious, considering that it should have been the case in WoL too.

As for Stargate it seems like an idea, sure, but you'd be able to scout if people are going SG or not.

It just seems strange to me. Maybe there are some vulnerable timings you can exploit, and once you've gone down the path of Archon/Immo you kinda have to stay on it.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 08 2013 19:53 GMT
#595
Titan wants to favour Collossi... hm.
kiss kiss fall in love
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 08 2013 19:54 GMT
#596
Titan wins tempo. I think he can comfortably sail on the momentum too.
kiss kiss fall in love
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46655 Posts
August 08 2013 19:54 GMT
#597
MC overcommitted a bit there x.x
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 08 2013 19:55 GMT
#598
Any PvP expert out there:

Why isn't MC clearing out all these proxy pylons?
kiss kiss fall in love
DaftFunk
Profile Joined June 2013
194 Posts
August 08 2013 19:56 GMT
#599
On August 09 2013 04:55 IntoTheheart wrote:
Any PvP expert out there:

Why isn't MC clearing out all these proxy pylons?

i dont think u have to be an expert in pvp to know pros can get nervous/tired and forget things like this all the time
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 08 2013 19:56 GMT
#600
On August 09 2013 04:52 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 04:48 The_Templar wrote:
On August 09 2013 04:45 The_Templar wrote:
Final Match Game 2

(P)TitaN vs (P)MC
1-0
Map: Newkirk Precinct


Titan spawns in the bottom right
MC spawns in the bottom left

1:00
Both players opening gateway before two gas.

2:00
Nothing interesting happening.

3:00
Titan getting a faster second gateway after a cybernetics core.
MC getting a later mothership core and a sentry.

4:00
Both players going up to three gateways.

5:00
Titan proxying a pylon.
I enjoy a lovely slide show.

6:00 (P)TitaN 33 (P)MC 34
Titan poking but MC stops it and kills the mothership core and a stalker.
MC very nearly loses his mothership core.

7:00 (P)TitaN . (P)MC
MC traps a stalker and kills it.
Titan snipes a sentry and moves into the natural while finishing his expansion.
Titan retreats.

8:00 (P)TitaN 48 (P)MC 49
Titan getting a robotics facility and a forge.
MC building an immortal.
Titan's natural finishes faster than MC's.

9:00 (P)TitaN 63 (P)MC 61
Titan has more probes than MC.
Both players building immortals.

10:00 (P)TitaN 73 (P)MC 68
Titan getting +1 ground attack.
MC building a forge.
I'm still watching the slide show provided by my internet.

11:00 (P)TitaN 85 (P)MC 80
Titan has a twilight council and is getting charge and +2.
Titan getting 3 more gateways.
MC is researching blink and getting a Templar archives.

12:00 (P)TitaN 92 (P)MC 94
MC building more gateways.
MC has more immortals in the same composition.

13:00 (P)TitaN 110 (P)MC 106
Both players morphing archons and moving out while taking his third base.

14:00 (P)TitaN 124 (P)MC 120
Titan retreats his forces while sending a warp prism
Both players warping units with warp prisms in the same place.

15:00 (P)TitaN 151 (P)MC 140
1v1 zealot fight where the more upgraded zealot wins
Titan moving towards the newly constructed third of MC.
Small engagement while zealots are harassing in the main base of MC.

16:00 (P)TitaN 152 (P)MC 167
Small engagements happen.
MC getting a dark shrine.

17:00 (P)TitaN 167 (P)MC 171
Titan parodying a pylon while harassing at the third but MC is at both places.
Titan engages MC in the center of the map.

18:00 (P)TitaN 135 (P)MC 117
The battle seems even but Titan has faster reinforcements.
Both players back off.
Titan is researching storm.

19:00 (P)TitaN 139 (P)MC 127
Double colossus production incoming for Titan.
Titan also researching extended thermal lance.
Titan sending a warp prism with HTs to the top of the map

20:00 (P)TitaN 169 (P)MC 154
My stream freezes completely.
Titan sending the warp prism for a storm drop.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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