• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:02
CEST 17:02
KST 00:02
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners6Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview5[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21
Community News
Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)8[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June4Weekly Cups (May 25-31): Clem doubles, 2v2 circuit heads toward finale0StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th156Weekly Cups (May 18-24): MaxPax wins doubles0
StarCraft 2
General
High level ptr replays? where can I find them? StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection
Tourneys
Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) GSL Code S Season 2 (2026)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed Mutation # 528 Infection Detected Welcome to the External Content forum
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ vespene.gg — BW replays in browser Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ? [BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals [BSL22] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CEST Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread ZeroSpace Megathread Summer Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread Cricket [SPORT] TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Does Workplace Frustration D…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7997 users

[WCS EU] RO16 Group D Premier Season 2 2013 - Page 30

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 28 29 30 31 32 46 Next All
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
August 08 2013 19:46 GMT
#581
On August 09 2013 04:44 Shellshock1122 wrote:
pretty slow thread today but it's not like there's significantly less viewers. Games just not as exciting today with the PvP/PvZs?


Cant balance whine in PvP
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 08 2013 19:47 GMT
#582
On August 09 2013 04:44 Shellshock1122 wrote:
pretty slow thread today but it's not like there's significantly less viewers. Games just not as exciting today with the PvP/PvZs?

They're ok. MC vs Titan is good stuff now though.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Rassy
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2308 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 19:48:49
August 08 2013 19:47 GMT
#583
Titan should only get more ahead as he has more probes mining all the time.
Oh nvm, its only 1-2 probes.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 08 2013 19:47 GMT
#584
Oh man... watch as MC goes fast 3rd.
kiss kiss fall in love
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 08 2013 19:48 GMT
#585
On August 09 2013 04:45 The_Templar wrote:
Final Match Game 2

(P)TitaN vs (P)MC
1-0
Map: Newkirk Precinct


Titan spawns in the bottom right
MC spawns in the bottom left

1:00
Both players opening gateway before two gas.

2:00
Nothing interesting happening.

3:00
Titan getting a faster second gateway after a cybernetics core.
MC getting a later mothership core and a sentry.

4:00
Both players going up to three gateways.

5:00
Titan proxying a pylon.
I enjoy a lovely slide show.

6:00 (P)TitaN 33 (P)MC 34
Titan poking but MC stops it and kills the mothership core and a stalker.
MC very nearly loses his mothership core.

7:00 (P)TitaN . (P)MC
MC traps a stalker and kills it.
Titan snipes a sentry and moves into the natural while finishing his expansion.
Titan retreats.

8:00 (P)TitaN 48 (P)MC 49
Titan getting a robotics facility and a forge.
MC building an immortal.
Titan's natural finishes faster than MC's.

9:00 (P)TitaN 63 (P)MC 61
Titan has more probes than MC.
Both players building immortals.

10:00 (P)TitaN 73 (P)MC 68
Titan getting +1 ground attack.
MC building a forge.
I'm still watching the slide show provided by my internet.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 08 2013 19:48 GMT
#586
And Titan's got another 3 gateways going up.
kiss kiss fall in love
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
August 08 2013 19:48 GMT
#587
Someone who is smarter than me, why is it that the meta has favoured Archon/Immortal based armies in PvP rather than going for the usual Colossus-based stuff?
MosART
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1899 Posts
August 08 2013 19:49 GMT
#588
Can't believe MC doesn't scout north of him for proxy pylons, after knowing that Titans stalkers came from there.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 19:51:17
August 08 2013 19:49 GMT
#589
On August 09 2013 04:48 Heartland wrote:
Someone who is smarter than me, why is it that the meta has favoured Archon/Immortal based armies in PvP rather than going for the usual Colossus-based stuff?

I might be wrong but I believe it's because many people get stargates in PvP now and colossi get shit on by tempests

+ stuff BigFan said too
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 08 2013 19:49 GMT
#590
On August 09 2013 04:48 Heartland wrote:
Someone who is smarter than me, why is it that the meta has favoured Archon/Immortal based armies in PvP rather than going for the usual Colossus-based stuff?

Archons can break ffs and Immortals eat stalkers and colossi. With zealots for shields, I think it's a strong combo. My take on it at least.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 08 2013 19:50 GMT
#591
On August 09 2013 04:48 Heartland wrote:
Someone who is smarter than me, why is it that the meta has favoured Archon/Immortal based armies in PvP rather than going for the usual Colossus-based stuff?

My guess tells me that Colossus-based stuff loses to Immortals since Archon can just crush the FFs and just march onto victory.
It looks like Archons can destroy positional advantage, allowing your Immortals and Zealots to just crush through.
kiss kiss fall in love
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 08 2013 19:51 GMT
#592
Well based on the production tab my stream's been frozen on forever, Titan seems ahead
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 08 2013 19:52 GMT
#593
On August 09 2013 04:48 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 04:45 The_Templar wrote:
Final Match Game 2

(P)TitaN vs (P)MC
1-0
Map: Newkirk Precinct


Titan spawns in the bottom right
MC spawns in the bottom left

1:00
Both players opening gateway before two gas.

2:00
Nothing interesting happening.

3:00
Titan getting a faster second gateway after a cybernetics core.
MC getting a later mothership core and a sentry.

4:00
Both players going up to three gateways.

5:00
Titan proxying a pylon.
I enjoy a lovely slide show.

6:00 (P)TitaN 33 (P)MC 34
Titan poking but MC stops it and kills the mothership core and a stalker.
MC very nearly loses his mothership core.

7:00 (P)TitaN . (P)MC
MC traps a stalker and kills it.
Titan snipes a sentry and moves into the natural while finishing his expansion.
Titan retreats.

8:00 (P)TitaN 48 (P)MC 49
Titan getting a robotics facility and a forge.
MC building an immortal.
Titan's natural finishes faster than MC's.

9:00 (P)TitaN 63 (P)MC 61
Titan has more probes than MC.
Both players building immortals.

10:00 (P)TitaN 73 (P)MC 68
Titan getting +1 ground attack.
MC building a forge.
I'm still watching the slide show provided by my internet.

11:00 (P)TitaN 85 (P)MC 80
Titan has a twilight council and is getting charge and +2.
Titan getting 3 more gateways.
MC is researching blink and getting a Templar archives.

12:00 (P)TitaN 92 (P)MC 94
MC building more gateways.
MC has more immortals in the same composition.

13:00 (P)TitaN 110 (P)MC 106
Both players morphing archons and moving out while taking his third base.

14:00 (P)TitaN 124 (P)MC 120
Titan retreats his forces while sending a warp prism
Both players warping units with warp prisms in the same place.

15:00 (P)TitaN 151 (P)MC 140
1v1 zealot fight where the more upgraded zealot wins
Titan moving towards the newly constructed third of MC.
Small engagement while zealots are harassing in the main base of MC.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
August 08 2013 19:53 GMT
#594
The suggestion that Archon/Immo wins over Colossus seems dubious, considering that it should have been the case in WoL too.

As for Stargate it seems like an idea, sure, but you'd be able to scout if people are going SG or not.

It just seems strange to me. Maybe there are some vulnerable timings you can exploit, and once you've gone down the path of Archon/Immo you kinda have to stay on it.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 08 2013 19:53 GMT
#595
Titan wants to favour Collossi... hm.
kiss kiss fall in love
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 08 2013 19:54 GMT
#596
Titan wins tempo. I think he can comfortably sail on the momentum too.
kiss kiss fall in love
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46060 Posts
August 08 2013 19:54 GMT
#597
MC overcommitted a bit there x.x
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 08 2013 19:55 GMT
#598
Any PvP expert out there:

Why isn't MC clearing out all these proxy pylons?
kiss kiss fall in love
DaftFunk
Profile Joined June 2013
194 Posts
August 08 2013 19:56 GMT
#599
On August 09 2013 04:55 IntoTheheart wrote:
Any PvP expert out there:

Why isn't MC clearing out all these proxy pylons?

i dont think u have to be an expert in pvp to know pros can get nervous/tired and forget things like this all the time
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 08 2013 19:56 GMT
#600
On August 09 2013 04:52 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 04:48 The_Templar wrote:
On August 09 2013 04:45 The_Templar wrote:
Final Match Game 2

(P)TitaN vs (P)MC
1-0
Map: Newkirk Precinct


Titan spawns in the bottom right
MC spawns in the bottom left

1:00
Both players opening gateway before two gas.

2:00
Nothing interesting happening.

3:00
Titan getting a faster second gateway after a cybernetics core.
MC getting a later mothership core and a sentry.

4:00
Both players going up to three gateways.

5:00
Titan proxying a pylon.
I enjoy a lovely slide show.

6:00 (P)TitaN 33 (P)MC 34
Titan poking but MC stops it and kills the mothership core and a stalker.
MC very nearly loses his mothership core.

7:00 (P)TitaN . (P)MC
MC traps a stalker and kills it.
Titan snipes a sentry and moves into the natural while finishing his expansion.
Titan retreats.

8:00 (P)TitaN 48 (P)MC 49
Titan getting a robotics facility and a forge.
MC building an immortal.
Titan's natural finishes faster than MC's.

9:00 (P)TitaN 63 (P)MC 61
Titan has more probes than MC.
Both players building immortals.

10:00 (P)TitaN 73 (P)MC 68
Titan getting +1 ground attack.
MC building a forge.
I'm still watching the slide show provided by my internet.

11:00 (P)TitaN 85 (P)MC 80
Titan has a twilight council and is getting charge and +2.
Titan getting 3 more gateways.
MC is researching blink and getting a Templar archives.

12:00 (P)TitaN 92 (P)MC 94
MC building more gateways.
MC has more immortals in the same composition.

13:00 (P)TitaN 110 (P)MC 106
Both players morphing archons and moving out while taking his third base.

14:00 (P)TitaN 124 (P)MC 120
Titan retreats his forces while sending a warp prism
Both players warping units with warp prisms in the same place.

15:00 (P)TitaN 151 (P)MC 140
1v1 zealot fight where the more upgraded zealot wins
Titan moving towards the newly constructed third of MC.
Small engagement while zealots are harassing in the main base of MC.

16:00 (P)TitaN 152 (P)MC 167
Small engagements happen.
MC getting a dark shrine.

17:00 (P)TitaN 167 (P)MC 171
Titan parodying a pylon while harassing at the third but MC is at both places.
Titan engages MC in the center of the map.

18:00 (P)TitaN 135 (P)MC 117
The battle seems even but Titan has faster reinforcements.
Both players back off.
Titan is researching storm.

19:00 (P)TitaN 139 (P)MC 127
Double colossus production incoming for Titan.
Titan also researching extended thermal lance.
Titan sending a warp prism with HTs to the top of the map

20:00 (P)TitaN 169 (P)MC 154
My stream freezes completely.
Titan sending the warp prism for a storm drop.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
Prev 1 28 29 30 31 32 46 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
15:00
Season Finals: Group Stage 2
RotterdaM45
SteadfastSC15
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Serral 2532
uThermal 282
SHIN 120
LamboSC2 59
RotterdaM 45
Vindicta 39
mouzHeroMarine 26
SteadfastSC 15
BRAT_OK 1
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 53301
Calm 4549
firebathero 2967
Sea 1807
EffOrt 973
Mini 429
ggaemo 309
actioN 191
Nal_rA 173
hero 125
[ Show more ]
Pusan 83
Hyun 74
JYJ 55
Sharp 54
910 51
Last 40
ToSsGirL 32
Shine 24
Killer 22
zelot 19
sorry 18
Sacsri 17
Rock 17
GoRush 15
Movie 14
IntoTheRainbow 12
Noble 7
Dota 2
qojqva3383
Counter-Strike
fl0m8997
kRYSTAL_38
zeus10
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King135
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor344
MindelVK6
Other Games
gofns32083
tarik_tv8436
singsing3169
B2W.Neo647
crisheroes376
olofmeister211
DeMusliM178
KnowMe95
ArmadaUGS73
QueenE37
Organizations
Other Games
EGCTV976
BasetradeTV137
StarCraft 2
TaKeTV 111
angryscii 29
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH256
• Adnapsc2 4
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota248
League of Legends
• Nemesis5052
Upcoming Events
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
3h 58m
Jaystar vs Dewalt
eOnzErG vs TerrOr
XuanXuan vs Bonyth
Mihu vs Dewalt
Messiah vs Jaystar
eOnzErG vs Bonyth
TerrOr vs Dewalt
Wardi Open
19h 58m
OSC
1d 8h
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
OSC
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
6 days
XuanXuan vs Jaystar
Mihu vs Messiah
eOnzErG vs Dewalt
Bonyth vs Jaystar
TerrOr vs Messiah
XuanXuan vs Mihu
eOnzErG vs Jaystar
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - GSB
2026 GSL S2
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
SCTL 2026 Spring
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Murky Cup 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1

Upcoming

CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
Heroes Pulsing #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.