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On August 09 2013 04:44 Shellshock1122 wrote: pretty slow thread today but it's not like there's significantly less viewers. Games just not as exciting today with the PvP/PvZs?
Cant balance whine in PvP
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TLADT24920 Posts
On August 09 2013 04:44 Shellshock1122 wrote: pretty slow thread today but it's not like there's significantly less viewers. Games just not as exciting today with the PvP/PvZs? They're ok. MC vs Titan is good stuff now though.
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Titan should only get more ahead as he has more probes mining all the time. Oh nvm, its only 1-2 probes.
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Oh man... watch as MC goes fast 3rd.
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your Country52797 Posts
On August 09 2013 04:45 The_Templar wrote:Final Match Game 2 TitaN vs MC1-0Map: Newkirk Precinct Titan spawns in the bottom right MC spawns in the bottom left 1:00 Both players opening gateway before two gas. 2:00 Nothing interesting happening. 3:00 Titan getting a faster second gateway after a cybernetics core. MC getting a later mothership core and a sentry. 4:00 Both players going up to three gateways. 5:00 Titan proxying a pylon. I enjoy a lovely slide show. 6:00 TitaN 33 MC 34 Titan poking but MC stops it and kills the mothership core and a stalker. MC very nearly loses his mothership core.
7:00 TitaN . MC MC traps a stalker and kills it. Titan snipes a sentry and moves into the natural while finishing his expansion. Titan retreats.
8:00 TitaN 48 MC 49 Titan getting a robotics facility and a forge. MC building an immortal. Titan's natural finishes faster than MC's.
9:00 TitaN 63 MC 61 Titan has more probes than MC. Both players building immortals.
10:00 TitaN 73 MC 68 Titan getting +1 ground attack. MC building a forge. I'm still watching the slide show provided by my internet.
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And Titan's got another 3 gateways going up.
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Someone who is smarter than me, why is it that the meta has favoured Archon/Immortal based armies in PvP rather than going for the usual Colossus-based stuff?
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Can't believe MC doesn't scout north of him for proxy pylons, after knowing that Titans stalkers came from there.
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United States97274 Posts
On August 09 2013 04:48 Heartland wrote: Someone who is smarter than me, why is it that the meta has favoured Archon/Immortal based armies in PvP rather than going for the usual Colossus-based stuff? I might be wrong but I believe it's because many people get stargates in PvP now and colossi get shit on by tempests
+ stuff BigFan said too
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TLADT24920 Posts
On August 09 2013 04:48 Heartland wrote: Someone who is smarter than me, why is it that the meta has favoured Archon/Immortal based armies in PvP rather than going for the usual Colossus-based stuff? Archons can break ffs and Immortals eat stalkers and colossi. With zealots for shields, I think it's a strong combo. My take on it at least.
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On August 09 2013 04:48 Heartland wrote: Someone who is smarter than me, why is it that the meta has favoured Archon/Immortal based armies in PvP rather than going for the usual Colossus-based stuff? My guess tells me that Colossus-based stuff loses to Immortals since Archon can just crush the FFs and just march onto victory. It looks like Archons can destroy positional advantage, allowing your Immortals and Zealots to just crush through.
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Austria24417 Posts
Well based on the production tab my stream's been frozen on forever, Titan seems ahead
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your Country52797 Posts
On August 09 2013 04:48 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 04:45 The_Templar wrote:Final Match Game 2 TitaN vs MC1-0Map: Newkirk Precinct Titan spawns in the bottom right MC spawns in the bottom left 1:00 Both players opening gateway before two gas. 2:00 Nothing interesting happening. 3:00 Titan getting a faster second gateway after a cybernetics core. MC getting a later mothership core and a sentry. 4:00 Both players going up to three gateways. 5:00 Titan proxying a pylon. I enjoy a lovely slide show. 6:00 TitaN 33 MC 34 Titan poking but MC stops it and kills the mothership core and a stalker. MC very nearly loses his mothership core. 7:00 TitaN . MCMC traps a stalker and kills it. Titan snipes a sentry and moves into the natural while finishing his expansion. Titan retreats. 8:00 TitaN 48 MC 49 Titan getting a robotics facility and a forge. MC building an immortal. Titan's natural finishes faster than MC's. 9:00 TitaN 63 MC 61 Titan has more probes than MC. Both players building immortals. 10:00 TitaN 73 MC 68 Titan getting +1 ground attack. MC building a forge. I'm still watching the slide show provided by my internet. 11:00 TitaN 85 MC 80 Titan has a twilight council and is getting charge and +2. Titan getting 3 more gateways. MC is researching blink and getting a Templar archives.
12:00 TitaN 92 MC 94 MC building more gateways. MC has more immortals in the same composition.
13:00 TitaN 110 MC 106 Both players morphing archons and moving out while taking his third base.
14:00 TitaN 124 MC 120 Titan retreats his forces while sending a warp prism Both players warping units with warp prisms in the same place.
15:00 TitaN 151 MC 140 1v1 zealot fight where the more upgraded zealot wins Titan moving towards the newly constructed third of MC. Small engagement while zealots are harassing in the main base of MC.
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The suggestion that Archon/Immo wins over Colossus seems dubious, considering that it should have been the case in WoL too.
As for Stargate it seems like an idea, sure, but you'd be able to scout if people are going SG or not.
It just seems strange to me. Maybe there are some vulnerable timings you can exploit, and once you've gone down the path of Archon/Immo you kinda have to stay on it.
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Titan wants to favour Collossi... hm.
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Titan wins tempo. I think he can comfortably sail on the momentum too.
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MC overcommitted a bit there x.x
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Any PvP expert out there:
Why isn't MC clearing out all these proxy pylons?
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On August 09 2013 04:55 IntoTheheart wrote: Any PvP expert out there:
Why isn't MC clearing out all these proxy pylons? i dont think u have to be an expert in pvp to know pros can get nervous/tired and forget things like this all the time
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your Country52797 Posts
On August 09 2013 04:52 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 04:48 The_Templar wrote:On August 09 2013 04:45 The_Templar wrote:Final Match Game 2 TitaN vs MC1-0Map: Newkirk Precinct Titan spawns in the bottom right MC spawns in the bottom left 1:00 Both players opening gateway before two gas. 2:00 Nothing interesting happening. 3:00 Titan getting a faster second gateway after a cybernetics core. MC getting a later mothership core and a sentry. 4:00 Both players going up to three gateways. 5:00 Titan proxying a pylon. I enjoy a lovely slide show. 6:00 TitaN 33 MC 34 Titan poking but MC stops it and kills the mothership core and a stalker. MC very nearly loses his mothership core. 7:00 TitaN . MCMC traps a stalker and kills it. Titan snipes a sentry and moves into the natural while finishing his expansion. Titan retreats. 8:00 TitaN 48 MC 49 Titan getting a robotics facility and a forge. MC building an immortal. Titan's natural finishes faster than MC's. 9:00 TitaN 63 MC 61 Titan has more probes than MC. Both players building immortals. 10:00 TitaN 73 MC 68 Titan getting +1 ground attack. MC building a forge. I'm still watching the slide show provided by my internet. 11:00 TitaN 85 MC 80 Titan has a twilight council and is getting charge and +2. Titan getting 3 more gateways. MC is researching blink and getting a Templar archives. 12:00 TitaN 92 MC 94 MC building more gateways. MC has more immortals in the same composition. 13:00 TitaN 110 MC 106 Both players morphing archons and moving out while taking his third base. 14:00 TitaN 124 MC 120 Titan retreats his forces while sending a warp prism Both players warping units with warp prisms in the same place. 15:00 TitaN 151 MC 140 1v1 zealot fight where the more upgraded zealot wins Titan moving towards the newly constructed third of MC. Small engagement while zealots are harassing in the main base of MC. 16:00 TitaN 152 MC 167 Small engagements happen. MC getting a dark shrine.
17:00 TitaN 167 MC 171 Titan parodying a pylon while harassing at the third but MC is at both places. Titan engages MC in the center of the map.
18:00 TitaN 135 MC 117 The battle seems even but Titan has faster reinforcements. Both players back off. Titan is researching storm.
19:00 TitaN 139 MC 127 Double colossus production incoming for Titan. Titan also researching extended thermal lance. Titan sending a warp prism with HTs to the top of the map
20:00 TitaN 169 MC 154 My stream freezes completely. Titan sending the warp prism for a storm drop.
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