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Vertitto
Profile Joined January 2012
Poland750 Posts
August 07 2013 19:07 GMT
#1681
1200ms for sure
FISH MAKE BLUB BLUB
Fuchsteufelswild
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2028 Posts
August 07 2013 19:07 GMT
#1682
Happy having a nice time today, making jokes too.
ZerO - FantaSy - Calm - Nal_rA - Jaedong - NaDa - EffOrt - Bisu - by.hero - StarDust - Welmu - Nerchio - Supernova - Solar - Squirtle - LosirA - Grubby - IntoTheRainbow - Golden... ~~~ Incredible Miracle and Woongjin Stars 화이팅!
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 19:08:30
August 07 2013 19:07 GMT
#1683
On August 08 2013 04:04 Rhaegal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 04:02 mikumegurine wrote:
hmmm

7 koreans in WCS EU ro32

16 koreans in WCS NA ro32

since koreans "generally" are better than foreigners

does that means WCS NA is more competitive than WCS EU?





Of course... no one is going to argue WCS EU is higher level than WCS NA


so WCS NA premier league is harder than WCS EU premier league

but WCS NA grandmaster is easier than WCS EU grandmaster? (some EU players said WCS EU GM is harder than WCS NA)

The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 07 2013 19:07 GMT
#1684
On August 08 2013 04:06 Noonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 04:05 Scumi wrote:
PvP EU


you forgot to add the WoW server name


what?
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 19:09:06
August 07 2013 19:08 GMT
#1685
On August 08 2013 04:07 mikumegurine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 04:04 Rhaegal wrote:
On August 08 2013 04:02 mikumegurine wrote:
hmmm

7 koreans in WCS EU ro32

16 koreans in WCS NA ro32

since koreans "generally" are better than foreigners

does that means WCS NA is more competitive than WCS EU?





Of course... no one is going to argue WCS EU is higher level than WCS NA


so WCS NA is tougher than WCS EU

but WCS NA grandmaster is easier than WCS EU? (some EU players said WCS EU GM is harder than WCS NA)



Boss, confusion

wait that's a reference only austrians will understand. You guys don't even know how terrible your childhood was without Tom Turbo
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Scumi
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany108 Posts
August 07 2013 19:08 GMT
#1686
On August 08 2013 04:06 Noonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 04:05 Scumi wrote:
PvP EU


you forgot to add the WoW server name



Gorrgonny!
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
August 07 2013 19:08 GMT
#1687
On August 08 2013 04:07 mikumegurine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 04:04 Rhaegal wrote:
On August 08 2013 04:02 mikumegurine wrote:
hmmm

7 koreans in WCS EU ro32

16 koreans in WCS NA ro32

since koreans "generally" are better than foreigners

does that means WCS NA is more competitive than WCS EU?





Of course... no one is going to argue WCS EU is higher level than WCS NA


so WCS NA is tougher than WCS EU

but WCS NA grandmaster is easier than WCS EU? (some EU players said WCS EU GM is harder than WCS NA)



Just stop it, this thread has been derailed to much already.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 07 2013 19:08 GMT
#1688
On August 08 2013 04:07 mikumegurine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 04:04 Rhaegal wrote:
On August 08 2013 04:02 mikumegurine wrote:
hmmm

7 koreans in WCS EU ro32

16 koreans in WCS NA ro32

since koreans "generally" are better than foreigners

does that means WCS NA is more competitive than WCS EU?





Of course... no one is going to argue WCS EU is higher level than WCS NA


so WCS NA is tougher than WCS EU

but WCS NA grandmaster is easier than WCS EU? (some EU players said WCS EU GM is harder than WCS NA)


because none of the top players in WCS AM play on the american ladder
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
August 07 2013 19:08 GMT
#1689
On August 08 2013 04:05 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Maybe it is just me, but somehow I feel that zerg and terran players are the top whiners of SC2 x)

How many tournaments have protoss players won in the last 7-8 months? I recall Hero taking WCS America and then startale took dreamhack summer, and that is it I think. We have a good run for the first time in forever and yet the zergs and the terrans on forums are behaving like they are having their period.


Protoss won Dreamhack, won WCS America, WCS Global Finals 2012, Asian Finals 2012, Korean Finals 2012, OSL. I don't think that's too bad.

It'd be just ridiculous to see the Season 2 finals without a single Zerg participating - and right now I feel like this is really happening :-/
I really don't care who wins, but an even distribution HAS to be given, otherwise the tournament gets REALLY boring and bad.
4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
August 07 2013 19:08 GMT
#1690
On August 08 2013 04:07 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 04:05 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Maybe it is just me, but somehow I feel that zerg and terran players are the top whiners of SC2 x)

How many tournaments have protoss players won in the last 7-8 months? I recall Hero taking WCS America and then startale took dreamhack summer, and that is it I think. We have a good run for the first time in forever and yet the zergs and the terrans on forums are behaving like they are having their period.


neither of these races had a sad zealot thread.


Might relate to that they took all the other tournament, and has statistically been a lot more successful through the entirety of SC2.
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
Fuchsteufelswild
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2028 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 19:10:01
August 07 2013 19:09 GMT
#1691
Elfi uses/used the keyboard I am still using - Microsoft Multimedia Keyboard 1.0A.
Nice palcement of extra keys, nice smooth layout, nice little calculator key near numpad keys, nice large backspace and spacebar with smaller enter (not the large return type), nice large \ | key.

Happy's looks similar, but newer and has more sloped bits.
ZerO - FantaSy - Calm - Nal_rA - Jaedong - NaDa - EffOrt - Bisu - by.hero - StarDust - Welmu - Nerchio - Supernova - Solar - Squirtle - LosirA - Grubby - IntoTheRainbow - Golden... ~~~ Incredible Miracle and Woongjin Stars 화이팅!
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
August 07 2013 19:09 GMT
#1692
On August 08 2013 04:07 mikumegurine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 04:04 Rhaegal wrote:
On August 08 2013 04:02 mikumegurine wrote:
hmmm

7 koreans in WCS EU ro32

16 koreans in WCS NA ro32

since koreans "generally" are better than foreigners

does that means WCS NA is more competitive than WCS EU?





Of course... no one is going to argue WCS EU is higher level than WCS NA


so WCS NA premier league is harder than WCS EU premier league

but WCS NA grandmaster is easier than WCS EU grandmaster? (some EU players said WCS EU GM is harder than WCS NA)


American ladder weaker ladder, but no self respecting Korean would play on there unless they had to. You don't need to be ranked Master/GM on the NA ladder to compete in the NA region.
Because Blizzard
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
August 07 2013 19:10 GMT
#1693
Honestly though, it's still just 1 season of mass Protoss.

GomTvT went on for a while and the Z domination towards the end of WOL felt like an eternity. I think if anything, the map pool needs to be updated as Protoss have gotten insanely good of mapping their simcity to these same 3-4 maps. If the trend continues then sure look into race balance, but I'd hate to see the race get knee-jerked considering this is the first sign of "life" in a very long time.
SkyTheUnknown
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Germany2065 Posts
August 07 2013 19:10 GMT
#1694
Is Happy even looking at his monitor? Or is he staring at his fingernails?
The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear, and the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown - H.P. Lovecraft
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 07 2013 19:10 GMT
#1695
On August 08 2013 04:09 DavoS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 04:07 mikumegurine wrote:
On August 08 2013 04:04 Rhaegal wrote:
On August 08 2013 04:02 mikumegurine wrote:
hmmm

7 koreans in WCS EU ro32

16 koreans in WCS NA ro32

since koreans "generally" are better than foreigners

does that means WCS NA is more competitive than WCS EU?





Of course... no one is going to argue WCS EU is higher level than WCS NA


so WCS NA premier league is harder than WCS EU premier league

but WCS NA grandmaster is easier than WCS EU grandmaster? (some EU players said WCS EU GM is harder than WCS NA)


American ladder weaker ladder, but no self respecting Korean would play on there unless they had to. You don't need to be ranked Master/GM on the NA ladder to compete in the NA region.
Because Blizzard

You have to be masters in the region now to play in the qualifiers, but that takes what? 10 games?
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Strela
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands1896 Posts
August 07 2013 19:10 GMT
#1696
On August 08 2013 04:08 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 04:05 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Maybe it is just me, but somehow I feel that zerg and terran players are the top whiners of SC2 x)

How many tournaments have protoss players won in the last 7-8 months? I recall Hero taking WCS America and then startale took dreamhack summer, and that is it I think. We have a good run for the first time in forever and yet the zergs and the terrans on forums are behaving like they are having their period.


Protoss won Dreamhack, won WCS America, WCS Global Finals 2012, Asian Finals 2012, Korean Finals 2012, OSL. I don't think that's too bad.

It'd be just ridiculous to see the Season 2 finals without a single Zerg participating - and right now I feel like this is really happening :-/
I really don't care who wins, but an even distribution HAS to be given, otherwise the tournament gets REALLY boring and bad.

This. I want to see more than mirror matches, if it's mainly PvP I woulnd't watch alot of starcraft games.
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
August 07 2013 19:10 GMT
#1697
The best thing about this is that the protoss getting through are all the ones who are renowned for good PvP. We're just missing elfi. Naniwa, Hasuobs, Welmu, MC and Duckdeok all have great PvP in hots and all have very different styles. They should give us a really good redefining of the matchup.
LRSL 2014 Finalist! PartinG | Mvp | Bomber | Creator | NaNiwa | herO
Rassy
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2308 Posts
August 07 2013 19:11 GMT
#1698
How come happy always looks at his keyboard and like never at the screen, i noticed this a few days ago also.
Its not the camera angle is it?
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 07 2013 19:11 GMT
#1699
On August 08 2013 04:09 DavoS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 04:07 mikumegurine wrote:
On August 08 2013 04:04 Rhaegal wrote:
On August 08 2013 04:02 mikumegurine wrote:
hmmm

7 koreans in WCS EU ro32

16 koreans in WCS NA ro32

since koreans "generally" are better than foreigners

does that means WCS NA is more competitive than WCS EU?





Of course... no one is going to argue WCS EU is higher level than WCS NA


so WCS NA premier league is harder than WCS EU premier league

but WCS NA grandmaster is easier than WCS EU grandmaster? (some EU players said WCS EU GM is harder than WCS NA)


American ladder weaker ladder, but no self respecting Korean would play on there unless they had to. You don't need to be ranked Master/GM on the NA ladder to compete in the NA region.
Because Blizzard


being in GM is a joke for most koreans pro on NA/Eu, enforcing it would do nothing. Let's not talk about master.
Zest fanboy.
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
August 07 2013 19:11 GMT
#1700
On August 08 2013 04:10 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 04:09 DavoS wrote:
On August 08 2013 04:07 mikumegurine wrote:
On August 08 2013 04:04 Rhaegal wrote:
On August 08 2013 04:02 mikumegurine wrote:
hmmm

7 koreans in WCS EU ro32

16 koreans in WCS NA ro32

since koreans "generally" are better than foreigners

does that means WCS NA is more competitive than WCS EU?





Of course... no one is going to argue WCS EU is higher level than WCS NA


so WCS NA premier league is harder than WCS EU premier league

but WCS NA grandmaster is easier than WCS EU grandmaster? (some EU players said WCS EU GM is harder than WCS NA)


American ladder weaker ladder, but no self respecting Korean would play on there unless they had to. You don't need to be ranked Master/GM on the NA ladder to compete in the NA region.
Because Blizzard

You have to be masters in the region now to play in the qualifiers, but that takes what? 10 games?

Ohh, didn't know that.
But yeah it wouldn't take more than half a practice day to get into Masters on NA if you were from Korea
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
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