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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
August 07 2013 18:08 GMT
#1081
On August 08 2013 03:07 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 03:05 GumBa wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:01 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:01 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Guys, MMA's weakest matchup was always vs protoss. That's not good for him.

Slayers' weakest matchup was always against protoss. They even took Coca down from 100%

What was always strange considering Puzzle and Alicia are/were quite decent :/

Yeah if anything Alicia was one of the strongest PvT players in 2011 where the slayers terrans really struggled in the matchup. They started getting better towards the end. I just remember MMA getting sent to Code B by ZenexPuzzle in Puzzle's debut and everyone was like who the fuck is that!? and then he did his 400 apm blink stalkers or whatever vs sheth on crevasse

That code A run from puzzle was insane
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 07 2013 18:08 GMT
#1082
On August 08 2013 03:07 DavoS wrote:
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On August 08 2013 02:55 BlackCompany wrote:
Good guy MMA, doesnt say eurpean T's are pretty bad compared to koreans

They aren't really. Obviously players like Innovation and Flash are an exception, but guys like Taeja and Mvp have shown that they aren't leagues better than Europeans.

Brackets playing out perfectly so far for me, I'd like for MMA and Nani to advance but I think Happy will beat Nani after this

I dunno about that. I feel that Nani will take out Happy.
kiss kiss fall in love
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 18:08:59
August 07 2013 18:08 GMT
#1083
On August 08 2013 03:07 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 03:05 GumBa wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:01 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:01 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Guys, MMA's weakest matchup was always vs protoss. That's not good for him.

Slayers' weakest matchup was always against protoss. They even took Coca down from 100%

What was always strange considering Puzzle and Alicia are/were quite decent :/

Yeah if anything Alicia was one of the strongest PvT players in 2011 where the slayers terrans really struggled in the matchup. They started getting better towards the end. I just remember MMA getting sent to Code B by ZenexPuzzle in Puzzle's debut and everyone was like who the fuck is that!? and then he did his 400 apm blink stalkers or whatever vs sheth on crevasse


Ah, I miss Puzzle. He was the one I was hoping to win things before HerO emerged. See far too little of him on KT
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
August 07 2013 18:08 GMT
#1084
On August 08 2013 03:07 DavoS wrote:
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On August 08 2013 02:55 BlackCompany wrote:
Good guy MMA, doesnt say eurpean T's are pretty bad compared to koreans

They aren't really. Obviously players like Innovation and Flash are an exception, but guys like Taeja and Mvp have shown that they aren't leagues better than Europeans.

Brackets playing out perfectly so far for me, I'd like for MMA and Nani to advance but I think Happy will beat Nani after this


When in form, Mvp and Taeja are definitely better than any euro terran.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
August 07 2013 18:08 GMT
#1085
semen, really apollo?
On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
August 07 2013 18:09 GMT
#1086
On August 08 2013 03:08 renaissanceMAN wrote:
semen, really apollo?


Simon
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 18:09:49
August 07 2013 18:09 GMT
#1087
On August 08 2013 03:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 03:07 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:05 GumBa wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:01 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:01 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Guys, MMA's weakest matchup was always vs protoss. That's not good for him.

Slayers' weakest matchup was always against protoss. They even took Coca down from 100%

What was always strange considering Puzzle and Alicia are/were quite decent :/

Yeah if anything Alicia was one of the strongest PvT players in 2011 where the slayers terrans really struggled in the matchup. They started getting better towards the end. I just remember MMA getting sent to Code B by ZenexPuzzle in Puzzle's debut and everyone was like who the fuck is that!? and then he did his 400 apm blink stalkers or whatever vs sheth on crevasse


Ah, I miss Puzzle. He was the one I was hoping to win things before HerO emerged. See far too little of him on KT

He's currently on KT Rolster ... as we speak!
edit: saw your edit
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
ArchangelJada
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada910 Posts
August 07 2013 18:09 GMT
#1088
i think he trying to say Simon with a german tone not semen
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 07 2013 18:09 GMT
#1089
On August 08 2013 03:08 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 03:07 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:05 GumBa wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:01 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:01 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Guys, MMA's weakest matchup was always vs protoss. That's not good for him.

Slayers' weakest matchup was always against protoss. They even took Coca down from 100%

What was always strange considering Puzzle and Alicia are/were quite decent :/

Yeah if anything Alicia was one of the strongest PvT players in 2011 where the slayers terrans really struggled in the matchup. They started getting better towards the end. I just remember MMA getting sent to Code B by ZenexPuzzle in Puzzle's debut and everyone was like who the fuck is that!? and then he did his 400 apm blink stalkers or whatever vs sheth on crevasse

That code A run from puzzle was insane

I still remember that code A for being the day tassadar made the finals of a major tournament.
Glorious SEA doto
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
August 07 2013 18:09 GMT
#1090
On August 08 2013 03:09 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 03:08 renaissanceMAN wrote:
semen, really apollo?


Simon

I heard semen. >_>
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
August 07 2013 18:09 GMT
#1091
On August 08 2013 03:08 renaissanceMAN wrote:
semen, really apollo?


Simon, you silly you
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10142 Posts
August 07 2013 18:09 GMT
#1092
Hoping for a Tefel vs Naniwa rematch.
Azza
Profile Joined June 2010
China650 Posts
August 07 2013 18:09 GMT
#1093
Kaelris looks too much like a mini Jamie Lannister. it's annoying.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 07 2013 18:09 GMT
#1094
On August 08 2013 03:07 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 03:06 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:05 AgentW wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:05 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:03 sc2holar wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:02 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:01 sc2holar wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:57 Bowzar wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:56 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:55 BlackCompany wrote:
Good guy MMA, doesnt say eurpean T's are pretty bad compared to koreans

haha

MMA: the skill gap is not that big

TaeJa: foreigners are bad enough that you can go mech in TvP

Taeja said that? Thats fucking hilarious.

I think its quite disrespectful considering he is signed to a foreign team and lives and practices in the EGTL house.


Not sure what that has to do with foreigners supposedly being bad

He is basicly insulting his team and his teammates?


How many foreign terrans do you count on TL?

Better yet, foreign Protoss?


Yeh, that was what I actually wanted to say.

On August 08 2013 03:06 sc2holar wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:05 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:03 sc2holar wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:02 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:01 sc2holar wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:57 Bowzar wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:56 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:55 BlackCompany wrote:
Good guy MMA, doesnt say eurpean T's are pretty bad compared to koreans

haha

MMA: the skill gap is not that big

TaeJa: foreigners are bad enough that you can go mech in TvP

Taeja said that? Thats fucking hilarious.

I think its quite disrespectful considering he is signed to a foreign team and lives and practices in the EGTL house.


Not sure what that has to do with foreigners supposedly being bad

He is basicly insulting his team and his teammates?


How many foreign terrans do you count on TL?

Terrans? he was talking about mech in TvP against foreigners wasnt he?


Was trying to type protoss but misclicked 7 times


Name one top foreign protoss that has been defeated by a terran from TL who went mech.

I double dare you!

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Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
August 07 2013 18:09 GMT
#1095
On August 08 2013 03:07 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 03:06 Mozdk wrote:
Was I being naive when I thought Happy was a favorite vs MMA?

It's his weakest matchup statistically.

But I mean, he's got around 70% winrate in it. Maybe you were, but apparently MMA had a bit of a slump closer to the end of WoL.

oh why are the canadians always soooo polite?
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 07 2013 18:10 GMT
#1096
On August 08 2013 03:09 Hryul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 03:07 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:06 Mozdk wrote:
Was I being naive when I thought Happy was a favorite vs MMA?

It's his weakest matchup statistically.

But I mean, he's got around 70% winrate in it. Maybe you were, but apparently MMA had a bit of a slump closer to the end of WoL.

oh why are the canadians always soooo polite?

Sorry, I can't tell if you're sarcastic.
kiss kiss fall in love
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
August 07 2013 18:10 GMT
#1097
On August 08 2013 03:07 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 03:04 Canucklehead wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:02 Deckard_Cain wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:00 DJHelium wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:00 Deckard_Cain wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:58 LiamBrady wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:53 Deckard_Cain wrote:
I really think players who cannot speak english shouldn't play in WCS Europe.

I agree. I think the Starcraft scene really needs a few more useless and xenophobic rules instituted if it wants to grow to new levels of popularity.

How is it xenophobic to encourage the players to actually learn the language that is spoken by most in the region, they are playing in??


So for the global finals, one would have to speak mandarin to compete?

GOGO JIM!

If you would qualify for a another job, you would need to, wouldn't you?


Nope. Tastosis have been in kr forever and both don't speak korean.


They do speak Korean, just not good enough to speak it on TV.


Not really. That's why they always needed john the translator or someone else talking in their ear to do translations. They may know phrases, etc and can get by but most likely not adequate enough to hold conversations.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
August 07 2013 18:10 GMT
#1098
On August 08 2013 03:08 renaissanceMAN wrote:
semen, really apollo?

i guess he meant simon
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hopefully this wasnt a joke and everyone can say germans dont have humor
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
August 07 2013 18:10 GMT
#1099
On August 08 2013 03:02 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 03:01 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:00 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Nearly 40k viewers! Pretty good for a Ro16 day.


We have peaked at 49k so far today (combined)

The NaNiwa bump. Very, very good group as well sure helps. Good to see solid numbers for WCS's these past few days (about 30k last night for WCS AM is also encouraging).


Yesterday we had 55k viewers
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
August 07 2013 18:10 GMT
#1100
On August 08 2013 03:07 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 03:06 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:05 AgentW wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:05 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:03 sc2holar wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:02 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:01 sc2holar wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:57 Bowzar wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:56 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:55 BlackCompany wrote:
Good guy MMA, doesnt say eurpean T's are pretty bad compared to koreans

haha

MMA: the skill gap is not that big

TaeJa: foreigners are bad enough that you can go mech in TvP

Taeja said that? Thats fucking hilarious.

I think its quite disrespectful considering he is signed to a foreign team and lives and practices in the EGTL house.


Not sure what that has to do with foreigners supposedly being bad

He is basicly insulting his team and his teammates?


How many foreign terrans do you count on TL?

Better yet, foreign Protoss?


Yeh, that was what I actually wanted to say.

On August 08 2013 03:06 sc2holar wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:05 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:03 sc2holar wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:02 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 08 2013 03:01 sc2holar wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:57 Bowzar wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:56 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:55 BlackCompany wrote:
Good guy MMA, doesnt say eurpean T's are pretty bad compared to koreans

haha

MMA: the skill gap is not that big

TaeJa: foreigners are bad enough that you can go mech in TvP

Taeja said that? Thats fucking hilarious.

I think its quite disrespectful considering he is signed to a foreign team and lives and practices in the EGTL house.


Not sure what that has to do with foreigners supposedly being bad

He is basicly insulting his team and his teammates?


How many foreign terrans do you count on TL?

Terrans? he was talking about mech in TvP against foreigners wasnt he?


Was trying to type protoss but misclicked 7 times


Name one top foreign protoss that has been defeated by a terran from TL who went mech.

I double dare you!

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