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Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
August 07 2013 17:35 GMT
#861
On August 08 2013 02:34 Yello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 02:34 AgentW wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:33 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Wish Acer still had those green collared shirts. Looked so cool

You're the only one who shared this sentiment, I think.


no, I agree. Those green shirts were awesome


I actually think so as well. But it is a dangerous opinion in here.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
August 07 2013 17:35 GMT
#862
On August 08 2013 02:34 BlackCompany wrote:
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On August 08 2013 02:33 Paljas wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:32 Fusilero wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:31 HolydaKing wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:30 Fusilero wrote:
I just arrived, not a fan of MMA's new hair.

Lol, neither am I. But I don't really care about it. :D

How are we supposed to pick up the sponsors if people's hair is not up to scratch. How are we supposed to get the marketability rolling.

not everyone can have the fashion sense of TLO


Hyun would like to have a word with you

Omg, truely. Hyun is bonjwa regarding fashion sense.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 17:36:12
August 07 2013 17:35 GMT
#863
wrong thread.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
TimENT
Profile Joined November 2012
United States1425 Posts
August 07 2013 17:35 GMT
#864
MMA with that GOAT micro
Barcelona / Arsenal Fan!
rearee
Profile Joined August 2013
15 Posts
August 07 2013 17:36 GMT
#865
On August 08 2013 02:31 Cyrak wrote:
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On August 08 2013 02:28 rearee wrote:
"We need a big korean superstar"
Do we? Why?


Validation of game quality. When its foreign vs. foreign no one takes it seriously.

Every time some foreigner does win against a korean though it's always 'oh, he was too tired to compete properly' or 'oh, he's not as good as he used to be'
It's just seen as validation for how washed up the korean player has become
gedatsu
Profile Joined December 2011
1286 Posts
August 07 2013 17:36 GMT
#866
On August 08 2013 02:34 Greendotz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 02:28 rearee wrote:
"We need a big korean superstar"
Do we? Why?


*Korean's go through*
"Damn, all these Korean's stealing our spots, it's suposed to be the EU league!"

*Korean's get knocked out early*
"Well that's me done, on one wants to see low level play"

Hey I have an idea. Maybe it's not the same people saying both those things.
Fuchsteufelswild
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2028 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 17:36:41
August 07 2013 17:36 GMT
#867
On August 08 2013 02:35 AgentW wrote:
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On August 08 2013 02:34 Yello wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:34 AgentW wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:33 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Wish Acer still had those green collared shirts. Looked so cool

You're the only one who shared this sentiment, I think.


no, I agree. Those green shirts were awesome

What? I thought everyone hated those shirts.

Maybe you don't know the opinion of every single person on the forums? It's just a THOUGHT...
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Thallis
Profile Joined September 2010
United States314 Posts
August 07 2013 17:36 GMT
#868
On August 08 2013 02:29 Big J wrote:
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On August 08 2013 02:20 Thallis wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:16 Big J wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:13 Thallis wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:10 Big J wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:06 Nebuchad wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:05 Big J wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:02 Zenbrez wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:59 Big J wrote:
On August 08 2013 01:56 DJHelium wrote:
The best thing about the void rays is that you don't have to target fire, they will kill the hydras first anyway. As soon as you see them targeting a roach, just activate them.

I don't think Tefel is reacting to this build in a good way, infestors would at least twice as good.


I think people overestimate infestors for that. Fungal has been nerfed by 10damage vs armored and infestors are really expensive in the midgame. He would get at most 10infestors instead of the 30hydras he was working with.

Imo, the way to go against this style is either blindcounter the third with an allin or sit on 4bases forever with hydra/viper/swarmhost/statics.

Edit: fungal is still good vs void rays, but it's not affordable to deal with them in the midgame.

You underestimate it. You don't need 10 infestors. You only use them for fungal, ITs are useless. Voidrays stack a loooot - sure he could split them, but lets be honest, nobody really does. Even having just 2 infestors, pinning them and dealing 50-60 dmg (since people generally overlap the fungals) to ALL of them is hugely significant. A pure hydra army won't do the job


I don't think you should base your strategy on your opponent playing shit. Naniwa scouted a lot. Had he seen infestors, he would have surely presplit his army.


That's a bit unrealistic. That's like saying, "don't ever go for templars in PvT, the terran is good, he will split his bio."


Just look at the numbers... Tefel had ~30hydralisks. Now if he goes infestors as well he immidiatly misses 5 of them (infestation pit + energy upgrade) for the tech and 3 for each infestor he builds due to the gas being the limiting factor. The remaining army will be mostly zerglings with 10 hydras and 5 infestors. That's simply not enough.

You don't have to be split perfectly, just having an arc in which not more than 5 voidrays get fungaled at once (there are only 5fungals) will be enough to hold.


Sure, but that assumes he stays on 3 bases and attacks with that army instead of having a good economy and attacking in open areas.


well, if he doesn't attack at that timing it will be a completely different thing. Then he has to consider how to beat Protoss in the lategame when Templars and Colossi are out. Which leads me back to what I was saying. He should go 4base swarmhost turtle, because that's the only style that works against a Protoss in full force in the lategame if he has voidrays or immortals to shut down ultras.


Nani couldn't go Colo with that much of his supply tied up in void rays. He'd have to sacrifice units and have a few minutes committed to make the switch, more than enough for zerg to react. Swarm host turtle is good against just about everything, but that doesn't mean it's the only thing good against anything.


a) nani would not have gone colossus initially. He would have gone templar just as in game2 which rape hydras and infestors.
b) what should a zergs reaction to a templar/void ray army be from a hydra/infestor mix? Well, I can answer you. Swarm hosts and static defenses, because those things can keep the templar back. It is the only style against this kind of air play with splash support. Or do you think running roach/hydra/viper/infestor into storms will work out better?


My mistake, I thought you were suggesting that the only way to deal with it is to open swarm host turtle into 4 bases.
/)*(\
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 17:36:42
August 07 2013 17:36 GMT
#869
On August 08 2013 02:35 TimENT wrote:
MMA with that GOAT micro


MKP would like a word with you.
On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 07 2013 17:36 GMT
#870
On August 08 2013 02:36 renaissanceMAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 02:35 TimENT wrote:
MMA with that GOAT micro


MKP would like a word with you.

BoxeR plz.
kiss kiss fall in love
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 17:37:04
August 07 2013 17:36 GMT
#871
(T)MMA vs (T)Happy
1-0


Map: Bel'shir Vestige
MMA spawns in the bottom right
Happy spawns in the top left

1:00
MMA getting a gas before barracks.
Happy seems to be opening normally.

2:00
Both players are building barracks.

3:00
MMA getting a factory.
Happy starts a reaper.
Factory for Happy as the reaper finishes.

4:00
Happy about to attack with a reaper, marine, and SCV but it's easily fended off with no losses.
Starport for MMA.

5:00
Engineering bay for happy.
Hellions for happy.
MMA getting a banshee with cloak.
Happy getting a missile turret and a starport of his own.
MMA getting a tank.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 07 2013 17:37 GMT
#872
On August 08 2013 02:36 gedatsu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 02:34 Greendotz wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:28 rearee wrote:
"We need a big korean superstar"
Do we? Why?


*Korean's go through*
"Damn, all these Korean's stealing our spots, it's suposed to be the EU league!"

*Korean's get knocked out early*
"Well that's me done, on one wants to see low level play"

Hey I have an idea. Maybe it's not the same people saying both those things.

The internet is actually one grand schizophrenic who constantly contradicts himself.
Glorious SEA doto
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 17:38:39
August 07 2013 17:37 GMT
#873
On August 08 2013 02:35 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 02:34 Yello wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:34 AgentW wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:33 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Wish Acer still had those green collared shirts. Looked so cool

You're the only one who shared this sentiment, I think.


no, I agree. Those green shirts were awesome


I actually think so as well. But it is a dangerous opinion in here.


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Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 17:37:57
August 07 2013 17:37 GMT
#874
On August 08 2013 02:36 Fuchsteufelswild wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 02:35 AgentW wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:34 Yello wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:34 AgentW wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:33 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Wish Acer still had those green collared shirts. Looked so cool

You're the only one who shared this sentiment, I think.


no, I agree. Those green shirts were awesome

What? I thought everyone hated those shirts.

Maybe you don't know the opinion of every single person on the forums? It's just a THOUGHT...

Impossible. My little fishies never lead my awry.

On August 08 2013 02:37 Yello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 02:35 Xoronius wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:34 Yello wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:34 AgentW wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:33 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Wish Acer still had those green collared shirts. Looked so cool

You're the only one who shared this sentiment, I think.


no, I agree. Those green shirts were awesome


I actually think so as well. But it is a dangerous opinion in here.


+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.ogaming.tv/sites/ogaming.tv/files/news/large/acermma.jpg
http://www.esfiworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/K1P0516.jpg

Not fair, MMA looks good in everything.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
August 07 2013 17:37 GMT
#875
On August 08 2013 02:33 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Wish Acer still had those green collared shirts. Looked so cool


Your taste perception processor appears to be malfunctioning
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
August 07 2013 17:38 GMT
#876
On August 08 2013 02:36 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 02:36 renaissanceMAN wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:35 TimENT wrote:
MMA with that GOAT micro


MKP would like a word with you.

BoxeR plz.

Only MMA and MKP fly their banshees into marines.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 07 2013 17:38 GMT
#877
Happy doing a great job this game.
kiss kiss fall in love
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 07 2013 17:38 GMT
#878
On August 08 2013 02:38 DidYuhim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 02:36 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:36 renaissanceMAN wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:35 TimENT wrote:
MMA with that GOAT micro


MKP would like a word with you.

BoxeR plz.

Only MMA and MKP fly their banshees into marines.

Only those with thebest control can fly their banshees into marines.
Glorious SEA doto
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
August 07 2013 17:39 GMT
#879
We need to call Wolf on the hair issue
This is our town, scrub
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
August 07 2013 17:39 GMT
#880
On August 08 2013 02:36 gedatsu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 02:34 Greendotz wrote:
On August 08 2013 02:28 rearee wrote:
"We need a big korean superstar"
Do we? Why?


*Korean's go through*
"Damn, all these Korean's stealing our spots, it's suposed to be the EU league!"

*Korean's get knocked out early*
"Well that's me done, on one wants to see low level play"

Hey I have an idea. Maybe it's not the same people saying both those things.

Team Liquid is a hive mind forum
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