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ImperialFist
Profile Joined April 2013
790 Posts
August 02 2013 18:49 GMT
#981
So how does Lucifron win that lol. Need massive static defense I guess.
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 02 2013 18:49 GMT
#982
On August 03 2013 03:49 Heinsenzerg wrote:
the real winner of the tourny is the grack

Is there a triple casting crown? One tournament on each continent.
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Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
August 02 2013 18:50 GMT
#983
On August 03 2013 03:49 ImperialFist wrote:
So how does Lucifron win that lol. Need massive static defense I guess.

By not challenging the king of baserace to a duel I assume.
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MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
August 02 2013 18:50 GMT
#984
I don't understand how Koreans who live in Europe can be so much better than Europeans. I imagine they all have the same training environment ?
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
August 02 2013 18:50 GMT
#985
On August 03 2013 03:46 InfCereal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 03:46 Penev wrote:
On August 03 2013 03:43 dani` wrote:
Khaldor should have totally referenced HuK's "you weren't loss" vs IdrA with hallucinated Voids when IdrA talked about hallucinations.

You mean MMA I think when he destroyed his own CC.


Nope, that was Huk's game vs idra.

Ah yeah, the broken English confused me.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 02 2013 18:51 GMT
#986
On August 03 2013 03:50 MrMotionPicture wrote:
I don't understand how Koreans who live in Europe can be so much better than Europeans. I imagine they all have the same training environment ?


stardust probably trains more and more efficiently, he was part of kespa in the past after all.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 02 2013 18:51 GMT
#987
On August 03 2013 03:50 MrMotionPicture wrote:
I don't understand how Koreans who live in Europe can be so much better than Europeans. I imagine they all have the same training environment ?

Is there confirmation that they live in the EU? I thought that they just played there.
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BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
August 02 2013 18:52 GMT
#988
On August 03 2013 03:50 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 03:49 ImperialFist wrote:
So how does Lucifron win that lol. Need massive static defense I guess.

By not challenging the king of baserace to a duel I assume.


Lucifron wins by having stronger multitask and map presence. If he took time to push all of stardusts units back and clear pylons before doing his main push it would of been very difficult for Stardust to slip in his counters. A few vikings for warp prism duty and some overall better multitask also helps. It's difficult though, because Lucifron was under constant pressure of attack despite being 30 supply up and Stardust is really good at scaring his opponents.
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Cattlecruiser
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States340 Posts
August 02 2013 18:52 GMT
#989
Only Pro7ect dropping out of the Koreans left.
Make this an all Korean semis!

-Watch it be Happy vs Lucifron so that foreigners can be proud of a "top 4" finish. LMFAO
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 02 2013 18:53 GMT
#990
On August 03 2013 03:52 iaguz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 03:50 Daralii wrote:
On August 03 2013 03:49 ImperialFist wrote:
So how does Lucifron win that lol. Need massive static defense I guess.

By not challenging the king of baserace to a duel I assume.


Lucifron wins by having stronger multitask and map presence. If he took time to push all of stardusts units back and clear pylons before doing his main push it would of been very difficult for Stardust to slip in his counters. A few vikings for warp prism duty and some overall better multitask also helps. It's difficult though, because Lucifron was under constant pressure of attack despite being 30 supply up and Stardust is really good at scaring his opponents.


Also I thought that Khaldor mentioned that Luci was an attacking player, and sometimes they don't show the same sort of game quality when they're put to defend.
kiss kiss fall in love
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
August 02 2013 18:53 GMT
#991
On August 03 2013 03:51 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 03:50 MrMotionPicture wrote:
I don't understand how Koreans who live in Europe can be so much better than Europeans. I imagine they all have the same training environment ?

Is there confirmation that they live in the EU? I thought that they just played there.

Yes Stardust lives in Europe. Korea -> Europe lag is too bad to play consistently.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
August 02 2013 18:53 GMT
#992
On August 03 2013 03:51 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 03:50 MrMotionPicture wrote:
I don't understand how Koreans who live in Europe can be so much better than Europeans. I imagine they all have the same training environment ?

Is there confirmation that they live in the EU? I thought that they just played there.

at least stardust is in eu
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
August 02 2013 18:53 GMT
#993
Its time to take my american flag and shout USA i think.
RIP MKP
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
August 02 2013 18:53 GMT
#994
On August 03 2013 03:51 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 03:50 MrMotionPicture wrote:
I don't understand how Koreans who live in Europe can be so much better than Europeans. I imagine they all have the same training environment ?

Is there confirmation that they live in the EU? I thought that they just played there.


Stardust has lived outside of korea for a long time. Until his DH win, most people didn't know he existed. He hasn't let up since his DH win which is impressive.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 02 2013 18:55 GMT
#995
I want a Polt and Stardust 2v2 against Choya and Hyvaa. Battle of the twins.
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Rhaegal
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States678 Posts
August 02 2013 18:55 GMT
#996
Terrible question lol.
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BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
August 02 2013 18:56 GMT
#997
On August 03 2013 03:53 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 03:52 iaguz wrote:
On August 03 2013 03:50 Daralii wrote:
On August 03 2013 03:49 ImperialFist wrote:
So how does Lucifron win that lol. Need massive static defense I guess.

By not challenging the king of baserace to a duel I assume.


Lucifron wins by having stronger multitask and map presence. If he took time to push all of stardusts units back and clear pylons before doing his main push it would of been very difficult for Stardust to slip in his counters. A few vikings for warp prism duty and some overall better multitask also helps. It's difficult though, because Lucifron was under constant pressure of attack despite being 30 supply up and Stardust is really good at scaring his opponents.


Also I thought that Khaldor mentioned that Luci was an attacking player, and sometimes they don't show the same sort of game quality when they're put to defend.


I should probably add that Stardust was doing some really weird shit and it's easy to forget yourself when faced by the weirdness,
ProgamerAustralian alcohol user follow @iaguzSC2
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
August 02 2013 18:56 GMT
#998
On August 03 2013 03:48 stuchiu wrote:
DRG and Stardust, the base trade brothers.

Does that mean that if they have to play each other, they start by sending drones at their opponent's base at the beginning of the game, NaNiwa like ?
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Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
August 02 2013 18:56 GMT
#999
On August 03 2013 03:51 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 03:50 MrMotionPicture wrote:
I don't understand how Koreans who live in Europe can be so much better than Europeans. I imagine they all have the same training environment ?


stardust probably trains more and more efficiently, he was part of kespa in the past after all.

Stardust also has 5 years of progaming in the best facilities in the world before he can to Europe. The practices he got there don't go away and his success isn't only about his dedication but also due to his experience.
Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-02 18:56:53
August 02 2013 18:56 GMT
#1000
Lucifron has already said in interview why he plays so bad live. Lucifron has an extremely hard time playing if he hear the audience - even if it is only vibrations - that is why he plays great at tournaments where it is completely silent in the booth, and I mean silent as in not even vibrations or anything.
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